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Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 08:35 pm: | 
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This is a very sad case. According to the stats in these articles most prostitutes in europe are african women. maybe this is part of the reason africa has so many aids cases. How come i don't hear this mentioned on the news or on channel 8 like i do about asian and european girls being forced to prostitute themselves in other countries? I was watching channel 8 and they were doing a special on women and young girls who are trafficed into other countries for prostitution. The only groupos they focused on were european and asian women. it was disturbing to see that they never mention anything about the millions of young african girls ages 12 and up who are either kidnapped or tricked into europe with the promise of a good education or a good job only to end up prostituing themselves to married men. Although african girls are more likely to be placed in this position, none of them were mentioned on the subject. Just goes to show how little black life is valued. We are suppsoe to show sympathy for young asian and white girls who are tricked into being sex slaves but when it comes to african women people are like so what. Not only that but america would lvoe to spread the idea that no one finds black women attractive enough to even use them as prostitutes (which is as i understand the lowest thing a woman can be). Not to say in any way that prostitution is something to be proud of because it's really sadening. However, i'm jsut commenting on how racist our culture is.
anyway, i was reading aobut the issue on another site and here are some articles i saw on it
""Exotic" Looks Encourage Continued Trafficking of
Illegal Immigrants
In Italy, these women's accents and uncommon
complexions become desired commodities and they
quickly develop reputations for sexual appetite and
ardor."
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/790
"African women and girls today, are said to constitute
the bulk of women and girls presently in Europe.
Conservative estimates put the number of African women
in the trade to well over 500,000.
Nigeria women alone were said to constitute over 57
per cent of this figure. In fact, an estimated 10,000
Nigerian prostitutes were said to be in over 300 or
so, brothels in Germany, Spain, and other parts of
Europe and South America."
http://www.protectionproject.org/vt/2002/ne123.htm
"According to a recent ILO report, an estimated 60
percent of prostitutes in Italy are from Nigeria."
http://www.currentconcerns.ch/config_03/print.php?source=../archive/2004/04/sour ce/20040414.html&issue=No+4,+2004&on=Article+published+on+26-07-2004
"More than two-thirds of the 20,000 prostitutes roaming
the streets of French cities are from Africa,police in
France reported on Friday in statistics done by the
Central Board for the Suppression of Human Trade
The data revealed that African prostitutes mainly come
from Benin, Cameroon, Ghana, Nigeria and Sierra Leone."
http://www.ghana.co.uk/news/content.asp?articleID=449
"Trafficking from Nigeria is especially well organized, and centers around a female figure called "Mama" who plays a key role in persuading young women to leave their homes for Italy. "
http://www.american.edu/TED/italian-trafficking.htm
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Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 702
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:02 pm: |
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That doesn't just happen in Europe. I've been told by people who've lived in NY that it happens there also, and also a lot of them are tricked here to become servants. |
Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 703
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:03 pm: |
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Not servants, slaves.
Servants get paid. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 47
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 12:09 am: |
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Misty - Do you believe that all those females were "tricked" because I don't. It's possible that some of them were, or sold into prostitution by their families, but this has been going on for quite sometime and there's no way that all these people left their homes, traveled to a foreign country and are now working as prostitutes because they were deceived. If some stranger came along and made you a job offer in a foreign land, would you just get up and go?
And do you really believe that being a prostitute is the lowest form of life. Because I have personally known some ladies of the evening who enjoy their work, the money that they make and their lifestyle. I know it's illegal in most places but I personally don't see anything wrong with getting paid for having sex.
Do you personally know any prostitutes, exotic dancers, phone sex operators, porn film actresses, dominatrices, etc? Because these are all thriving industries and these people live amongst all of us. Do you feel that all these people are low-lifes? Just wondering what your thoughts are.
My solution to the problem that you have presented is that governments must legalize prostitution, put systems into place to regulate it, collect taxes on incomes, and ensure that these ladies have access to health care, birth control and education opportunities in case they desire to make a career change. Because prostitution is the world's oldest profession and it's never going to end. |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 147
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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mzuri
even though i have never hired or partaken of the services of a "lady of the night" it seems to be working fine for canada. i have also never smoked weed either but that seems to be the smartest law that the canadians passed to ... it saves the money, time, and jail space for more serious offenses. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 48
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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Hi Dobey - Prostitution is legal in Canada? And reefer too. That's news to me. Thanks for sharing. |
Shemika
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Username: Shemika
Post Number: 8
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 01:18 pm: |
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I don't beleive prostitution should be legalized just because it's been going on a long time any more than slavery or murder should be legalized. All sorts of people are being exploited sexually, including young children 12 and below of both genders rarely spoken of. These unfortunate young people grow up knowing nothing else. Any society that does not protect children is uncivilized. The promise of 'oppurtunities'is often done to open a doorway to legalized exploitation of humans. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 51
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 02:33 pm: |
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Hi Shemika - What would be your solution to the worldwide problem presented by the OP?
BTW, when I stated my opinion that prostitution should be legalized, I wasn't referring to the pandering of children. I am a reasonable person. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 302
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 04:21 pm: |
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THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
U.N. 'peacekeepers' rape women, children
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Posted: December 24, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
With the United Nations already under fire for the Oil-for-Food mega-scandal and other corruption, sensational allegations of rampant sexual exploitation and rape of young girls and women by the U.N.'s so-called "peacekeepers" and civilian staffers in the Congo is dragging the global body's reputation to an all-time low.
In a new report referring to the widespread sex scandal as "the U.N.'s Abu Ghraib," the London Times provides some specific examples, including:
A French U.N. logistics expert in the Congo shot pornographic videos in his home, in which he had converted his bedroom into a photo studio for videotaping his sexual abuse of young girls. When police raided his home, the man was allegedly about to rape a 12-year-old girl sent to him in a law enforcement sting operation. As the Times reported, a senior Congolese police officer confirmed the bed was surrounded by large mirrors on three sides, with a remote control camera on the fourth side.
U.N. officials are worried that the scandal, which already has netted 150 allegations of sex crimes by U.N. staffers, will explode if the pornographic videos and photos, now on sale in Congo, becoming public
"It would be a pretty big problem for the U.N. if these pictures come out," one senior official told the Times.
Two Russian pilots paid young girls with jars of mayonnaise and jam to have sex with them, the report adds.
U.N. "peacekeepers" from Morocco based in Kisangani – a secluded town on the Congo River – are notorious for impregnating local women and girls. In March, an international group probing the scandal found 82 women and girls had been made pregnant by Moroccan U.N. staffers and 59 others by Uruguayan staffers. One U.N. soldier accused of rape was apparently hidden in the barracks for a year.
Congo's Minister of Defense Maj.-Gen. Jean Pierre Ondekane told a top U.N. official that all U.N. "peacekeepers" in Kisangani would be remember for would be "for running after little girls," the Times reported.
And at least two U.N. officials – a Ukrainian and a Canadian – have been forced to leave the African nation after getting local women pregnant.
Most of the sexual abuse and exploitation, says the report, involves trading sex for money, food or jobs. However, some victims say they were raped, but later given food or money to make the incident appear to have been consensual – "rape disguised as prostitution."
U.N. Under-Secretary-General for Peacekeeping Jean-Marie Guehenno told the London paper: "The fact that these things happened is a blot on us. It's awful. What is important is to get to the bottom of it and fight it and make sure that people who do that pay for what they have done."
Despite the fact that the U.N.'s sexual code of conduct is prominently displayed on U.N. facilities Congo – forbidding sex with prostitutes or women under 18 – the U.N. continues to hand out free condoms to "peacekeepers" to protect them from AIDS.
The U.N. has promised to investigate and prosecute the widespread allegations. But, as WND reported last month, the global organization is not known for its forthrightness and candor in such internal investigations. The agency has been criticized for ignoring evidence or wrongdoing in the past – including accusations of rape and murder by "peacekeepers."
In fact, previous revelations of peacekeeping abuses have only been revealed by news organizations. Such was the case in Cambodia in the early 1990s and later in Somalia, Bosnia and Ethiopia.
"I am afraid there is clear evidence that acts of gross misconduct have taken place," Secretary-General Kofi Annan admitted. "This is a shameful thing for the United Nations to have to say, and I am absolutely outraged by it."
Annan said the allegations concerned a small number of U.N. personnel and promised to hold those involved accountable.
"I have long made it clear that my attitude to sexual exploitation and abuse is one of zero tolerance, without exception, and I am determined to implement this policy in the most transparent manner," Annan said.
But Jordan’s Prince Zeid Raad Al Hussein, a special adviser to Annan and who led one investigative team, said in a confidential report obtained by The Times: "The situation appears to be one of 'zero-compliance with zero-tolerance' throughout the mission."
The new charges of rape and pedophilia by U.N. troops and workers in Congo are not the first scandal involving U.N. workers and troops in Africa.
Former United Nations Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali's tenure was marked by scandalous charges that he played a leading role in supplying weapons to the Hutu regime that carried out a campaign of genocide against the Tutsi tribe in 1994.
As minister of foreign affairs in Egypt, Boutros-Ghali facilitated an arms deal in 1990, which was to result in $26 million of mortar bombs, rocket launchers, grenades and ammunition being flown from Cairo to Rwanda. The arms were used by Hutus in attacks which led to up to a million deaths. The role of Boutros-Ghali, who was in charge at the U.N. when it turned its back on the killings in 1994, was revealed in a book by Linda Melvern. In "A People Betrayed: The Role of the West in Rwanda's Genocide," Boutros-Ghali admits his role in approving an initial $5.8 million arms deal in 1990, which led to Egypt supplying arms to Rwanda until 1992. He says he approved it because it was his job as foreign minister to sell weapons for Egypt.
Back in 1997, there were reports Belgian U.N. troops roasted a Somali boy. A military court reportedly sentenced two paratroopers to a month in jail and a fine of 200 pounds for the offense.
Another Belgian soldier reportedly forced a young Somali to eat pork, drink salt water and then eat his own vomit. Another sergeant was accused of murdering a Somali whom he was photographed urinating upon. Another child, accused of stealing food from the paratroopers' base, died after being locked in a storage container for 48 hours. Fifteen other members of the same regiment were investigated in 1995 for "acts of sadism and torture" against Somali civilians.
The pattern of abuse was not confined to Belgian troops. Belgium was actually the third country in the peacekeeping group to charge troops with serious crimes against Somali citizens -- including rape, torture and murder. In 1995, a group of Canadian paratroopers were investigated for torturing a Somali to death and killing three others.
Gruesome photos were published in a Milan magazine of Italian soldiers torturing a Somali youth and abusing and raping a Somali girl. Paratroopers claim they were specifically trained in methods of torture to aid interrogation. According to one witness, Italian soldiers tied a young Somali girl to the front of an armored personnel carrier and raped her while officers looked on.
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This is what the U.N was doing. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 55
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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Prostitutes are everywhere!!! Even in Texas!!!
http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3666449.html |
Stephgirl
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Username: Stephgirl
Post Number: 30
Registered: 09-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 06:09 pm: |
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Hey Serena,
Thanks for bringing the article regarding the rapes of African girls by UN peacekeepers to the fore. I read those reports on the internet a year ago. I haven't heard a peep from CNN, Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC regarding this unless they reported it on the sly, maybe around 4 o'clock in the morning when most people are asleep. See how the media, corporations, and the government cover up things so as not to inform the public about the rapes of African women.
Stephanie |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 150
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
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mzuri
yeah they just passed the bill to legalize marijuana about 2 or 3 years ago in canada. escorts and escort services have been legal in canada for longer than i can remember. it takes less than 20 minutes to get into windsor from detroit, (depends if you can take a bridge or the tunnel)during the super bowl... it's safe to say that those chicks made alot of money.
and at fort hood texas, those hookers would always linger around the base to get some ca$hola from the soldiers. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 87
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:56 am: |
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Thank you Dobey! There's always going to be prostitution around the Army bases, that's just life. But my link was to a story about a politician running for a seat on the TX house of representatives admitting the he had been a prosititute. Too bad he's not in my district because I'd go vote for him just for having the balls to admit to it. And he's gay too. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 303
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 04:17 pm: |
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Thanks for bringing the article regarding the rapes of African girls by UN peacekeepers to the fore. I read those reports on the internet a year ago. I haven't heard a peep from CNN, Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC regarding this unless they reported it on the sly, maybe around 4 o'clock in the morning when most people are asleep. See how the media, corporations, and the government cover up things so as not to inform the public about the rapes of African women.
Stephanie
I have not heard it either on any of those stations. I heard about it from BBC America. I guess now one cares unless they are blonde hair and blue eyes. |
Shemika
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Username: Shemika
Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 07:50 pm: |
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Hi Muzi, sorry I haven’t responded sooner, I haven’t been to this tread in a while.
I’m not sure what OP means, but if you are referring to prostitution that’s a tough question. I believe people can be socialized to validate or invalidate anything. Anything appealing to human sensuality or pride is rooted in self gratification and can easily be exploited and emphasized for profit. It takes a selfless people to use their voice and influence to help socialize against such a negative practice but I believe it can be done.
It’s not a good thing; some women in their youth may be rewarded for show to lend it credibility. But I’ve seen women in a country where prostitution is legal, even young ones selling themselves to men for two dollars or just to be able to come in out of the rain. And such clientele always want to do something more daring which only leads to an underground of the officially forbidden.
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