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Serenasailor
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 07:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have you noticed that all of the female host of B.E.T are light-skinned females? Take 106 & Park they have that Puerto Rican chick Julissa as the host. Also, B.E.T style they have light-skinned Melissa Ford as a host. The only host with a dark-skinned female is ComicView with Sherryl Underwood. And that is nothing but a minstrel show. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 08:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serena,

Yes, Yes, and Yes!!! Not only the WHITE OWNED BET features mulattas and Latinas as hosts, just about all the videos made by rappers have wall to wall biracial, white, Latina, and Asian women dancing to the beat of their songs.

Anyway, BET sucks!!!
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 09:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, I've noticed and I'm tired of it! Whatever happened to "Black is Beautiful?"
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I guess being black has been reduced to an entertaining fashion fad that any non black can participate in and throw off when it’s convenient for them. So that’s what BET is portraying. Especially where we black women are concerned, we are just out of the loop on BET as well as for your typical white struck black men.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 12:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Black is Beautiful?"

Who let the dogs out! BET, Soul Train and just about every other show and/or network of like genre and following have been playing the high-yellow card for a very long time. Just who do you think BET's (pre-Viacom) black executives were married to and banging on the sly in the first place? It certainly wasn't Whoopi Goldberg.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ya'll are trippin'! all of those women are gorgeous, especially meilissa ford. they are just as black as any of you, just like i'm just as black as that dude aj. i wonder how many of you had to grow up in a predominatly white environment, if you had then i doubt that you'd even cry about something so trivial.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 12:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On another thread, Doberman, you said that the White Cuban had gotten more than the Black Cuban because of color.

Now you want to pretend that only lightskinned women are "gorgeous" as you put it and that there's nothing wrong with calling yourself a Black man but excluding beautiful black women from being represented on a network that is called "Black" entertainment television.

There is a "racist color line" on BET and Soul Train and everywhere that black men produce media images. Black women with dark skin and African features are not allowed no matter how beautiful they are.

You are not a real black man. You're an asshole.

Your posts constantly prove it. At some point a "real" black man would ask himself, where are the black women? You hate black women so you don't care.

I'm lightskinned myself and I can't stand you, because you're stupid and you're insensitive.


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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:00 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anybody's who is watching BET primarily for positive and inspirational portrayals of Blacks foks really REALLY outtah have his or her head examined.


And Melissa Ford looks MUCH better in still photos than she does in live action. She is one of a MYRIAD examples of just how amazing magazine photographers and editors really are.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you can throw insults my way all you want pbg, every woman that was mentioned on this particular thread is a black woman, just because there light does not exclude them from being black/ african american. i will defend beyonce, alicia keys, vanessa williams, or that girl from ice cubes strip club movie and all the rest of them when they are brought into this sort of issue in such a manner, if you have to complain about the complextion of darker skinned sisters not getting there fair share that's one thing, but don't diss the other ones because they are able to succeed. i personally think regina king can out act halle berry any given day, but i was still very happy that halle won the oscar, damn at least one of us is gettin' it.

i hate black women? i won't even bother to go off on you for that, you make your points like a teenager, you can't debate your points so u just curse & throw insults ... grow up.. I’m also not insensitive, we all express our views how we see things… when you see anything I post, from here on don’t look at them, because you can’t gauge my tone … and your waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too sensitive.

( your not a “Real” black man… did you pull that out of the same drawer as the “you can’t handle a real black woman” drawer?) both are stupid comments.

i understand that there is a bias in media, but i also understand that as black people we are divided enough as is, and putting down other black people to try and bring others one up does not help.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

abm, the girl looks good no matter how you slice it. and your right once again... (Anybody's who is watching BET primarily for positive and inspirational portrayals of Blacks foks really REALLY outtah have his or her head examined.) b.e.t showed a "beef" marathon... that justifies your point to the fullest.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dobes,

I'll let you have the BET Melissa Ford. I'll just wait for the next times she's featured in King or Black Men Magazine.

I know I shouldn't ask: But what the hell is a "beef marathon"?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I didn't say those women weren't black.

I said that BET discriminates against beautiful black women who are dark and that you're an asshole for defending it and supporting it.

How can we have black people without black women who are dark?

How come there's no marathons with beautiful dark black women in them?

You're colorstruck insensitive and you hate black women which is why you prefer them as "less black" as possible. Which is why you don't see anything wrong with BET.

The older I get the more I see black men for what they really are. That's all I have to say. You're not cool.




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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG says: "The older I get the more I see black men for what they really are."


And what would that be? Your father and your son?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What I see is that black men are against us, Abm. They hate us. Their mother and their daughter to get snippy right backatcha.

Was it Kola who said that she's experienced more prejudice from black men than white?

That's my point.

Why are we hung up on the white man when it's the black man who hates us and doesn't want any black children being born? He's the one wiping us out.

That's what I meant.

SUCKA!





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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your buddy Doberman came to this board trying to get us to hook up his black nerd buddy with a white girl, remember?

He's been putting down black women ever since he got here. Not that you deterred him.

If he posts about beauties in Brazil, then he has to tack on that you'll be disappointed once you come back and live with African American women.

He can't just say they've got pretty women in Brazil. He tries to insult us on purpose 24/7 and you don't see that?

He hates black women.




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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG,

Honestly. I have been sort of ignoring a lot of bvllshyt that's posted here. The only crappy stuff I might respond to is that which I can enjoy poking fun at (Serenasailor is a frequent purveyor of such).
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG,

But my opinion about Dobes Brazilian adventures is if he's doing a lot of what he's alluded to, something will get a hold of him soon enuff.

And it'll likely be the kind of shyt he won't be able to easily get clear of.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yer,yer, yer.

I liked you better when Kola was here and it was like Moonlighting.

You're different by yourself.


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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG,

And I like you better when...well...Btw: Who the hell ARE you?
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You don't remember me when I was Doniecia? and there was only Thumper's board? :-)

I write for the Washington Post.

Kola's fan at Howard University.



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your misqouting me, go back and show me exactly where i said anything about black women. you wont be able to, you read what i write and come up with your things in your brainless head.

disappointed once you come back and live with African American women. ...pbg you are add libbing and you know it, cut and paste that and i gurantee it'll show that your adding or reinterating things in your own way.

I said that BET discriminates against beautiful black women who are dark and that you're an asshole for defending it and supporting it. ...pbg you are wrong once again, i defend black women on the whole ...all the comments are to suggest that because one is lighter that they are less of an african american, there all here read them.

did i give my boy that number, i sure did, does he have to act on it? nope, i just gave him an option since he's not doing so well through his way. i gave him someone's email address from off of here too, so what he does is on him.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

abm
the beef marathon .... they showed documentaries of rappers who had beefs with one another for 4 hours straight maybe even longer than that. to each his own, but to me, that was a perfect example of brothers keeping others brown down and not to mention showing how stupid some of us can be.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh. HI!!!

Sorry. I didn't didn't "Doniecia" and "Prettybabygirl" were synonyms. I'll note that for future reference.

I hope you are doing well in both your professional and your personal lives (even if you detest the vile despicable Black man that I am).


Btw: I SELDOM do shoutouts. They often seem so trite. So consider yourself special.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dobes,

I think (and hope) a lot of the "beef" stuff is mostly for show. But the problem is young mofo's make more of it than need be. Next thing you know, nikka's shooting each other outside of radio stations and shyt.

Meanwhile, the White man's cash register is EXPLODING from all the dough!

*smgdh*
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOOOOL!!!!!!!

Now that's the Abm I knew!! :-)

You are not despicable.

You're the charming, handsome Rhett Butler of the board and the only dude who could Lasso Kola Boof and keep her on lockdown.

Now you KNOW you was a bad mf!!!!!!

I used to laugh so hard reading you and Kola going at it, I almost peed on myself at the library one time!

I love when she tried to sneak back as "Snakewoman" and you wrestled ass right up!! LOL

I used to love you! You're as clever as Kola any day of the week. You both reminded me of that show Moonlighting. Those first two years were priceless. I thought you were actually Thomas for a long time.




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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

abm
But my opinion about Dobes Brazilian adventures is if he's doing a lot of what he's alluded to, something will get a hold of him soon enuff.

And it'll likely be the kind of shyt he won't be able to easily get clear of.

lol... i only alluded to enjoying myself, besides i can't go back there unless i want to be single again... and i'm not giving up my girl (unless it was for melissa ford).
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Doberman23,
"i wonder how many of you had to grow up in a predominatly white environment, if you had then i doubt that you'd even cry about something so trivial."

I have and I don't get your point (???).
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ohhhh god, hi tonya.
my point is this, i had 3 other black kids that where in my classes all the way into we got into high school, we didn't notice any dumb shit about anybody being light or dark, all we knew is that we stood the hell out and that if some shit hit the fan, we all had each others back. we had to kiss hella ass to put up our black history month posters and when it came to music at the dances and get togethers, we we're all we had. wether i missed the bus or any of the other black kids missed the bus, you best believe in some areas they made damn sure you knew you where black... so to me that is how i've always looked at it. even in military life no matter where a brutha is from he will always take his ass to the same tables as the other bruthas, and you weren't thinking about if somebody was dark or light you just naturally would end up there.

that's my point tonya.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG,

Yeah. Those were good times.

That is, until some of that that stuff almost ended up in the file of a divorce attorney my wife had put on retainer.

Then ol' Rhett had to leave Scarlet be and stroll off into a (technicolor) sunset.
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WHuuutttt?

Sorry Abm.

So that's what happened.

But you are so damned funny. Not making light of your wife, but even that last post made me have to re-do my bottom liner.

LOL!!!!!

Like my grandmother says---"YOU IS A FOOL!"



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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 03:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG says: "But you are so damned funny. Not making light of your wife, but even that last post made me have to re-do my bottom liner."


Good LAWD!

You chicks and all your misfiring bodily functions!
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Remember that time Kola was "scurred" (LMAO!!!!) because Moonsigns, a white lady came and was going to take you away?

First they were friends until you and Moon kept flirting.

Kola was about to cut both of yall! LMAO!!!!!!! I had to print that shit out!

My whole dorm was laugh'n at the speeches Kola was typing. She was so jealous for real!! She was seeing blood.

You remember Laamb? He was killing me trying to egg Kola in a fight.

She tore Moonsigns the "f*#$" up!!! though. Whew. I felt so sorry for Moon. I really did. Kola didn't want nobody talking to Abm but her and she was real with it. LMAO!!!!! :-)

You was her ----"Daddy."

LMBAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

She used to kill me.









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"eyeliner" silly.

You made me laugh to tears and my makeup start running.

LOL


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Are you saying that you don't know what it's like to be a part of a diversre culture such as that of the AA community; therefore, you are uninformed/badly informed about many of the issues raised by most of the posters who frequent these boards? ...and as a consequence... at times you're a bit insensitive?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 03:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My bad. That post was for Doberman23.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG,

Yeah. Kola's very possessive. That's largely what got me into to trouble with the Missus. She just figured with all THAT drama Kola and I just HAD to be boning.

(Which, of course, made a nikka like me think: "Shyt. If I'm going to catch all the blame for this, I probably shouldah at least laid wood to Kola.")

Funny. I guess I, like a LOT of Black men, don't always understand and feel that seething anger that many sistahs have for the Moonsigns of the world.

I mean. I know White chicks can often be as annoying as tigerclaws scratching against a chalk board. But I think us guys just sort accept that as their way.

*shrugs*

Honestly. A lot of time, what goes down between women is just crazy chickshyt. And after it cranks up to a certain volume and decibel level, any/all actual merit is drowned out by the shrill howling of b*tchy self-righteousness and indignation.

But then, I ain't a chick. So, really, what the hell do I know?

And brotha's, if they're lucky, often get caught in a competitive cQQchie crossfire. So things ain't all bad.


PS: I miss Lambd. And, no. Not in a Broke(adyckoffinhim) Mountain kinda way. He's a funny guy. He's sorta like the little brother I'm glad my mother never had.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PBG,

Oh. Eyeliner.

My bad.

Heck. I thought you were referring to something made by Stayfree that has wings or something.
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Prettybabygirl:
"I write for the Washington Post."


Moonsigns:
Do you write for the Style section?
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Hi Moonsigns.

Ain't tell'n :-)

LOL


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no tonya, i am saying whether your light or dark it doesn't matter to me your still black. i look at things just like our people in the 50's & 60's did, when harry belafonte and lena horne where on tv, black people where just as glad for them as they where when sidney portier and nat king cole where on tv. as i said before all the post on here where talking about taking jobs from black women and to me it made it seems as though because they where lighter that they should be looked upon as not being black . i think it's unfair and therefore i voiced my opinion.
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lol... you love my posts tonya. you and pbg, ya'll prolly eagle eye past everybody elses stuff just to see what i'm gonna say.

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Prettybabygirl:
"Ain't tell'n."


Moonsigns:
You don't have to. After reading back a few posts, I know that you aren't who I thought you were.

:-)

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Doberman23:

lol... you love my posts tonya. you and pbg, ya'll prolly eagle eye past everybody elses stuff just to see what i'm gonna say.

Tonya:

You're cunning and provocative and not to mention.. vainglorious(!!!)....

What's not to love!?!

LOL

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Doberman23 --

"no tonya, i am saying whether your light or dark it doesn't matter to me your still black."

Good luck on that one.
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I understand where everyone is coming from with the whole "Beef" marathon or whatever you wanna call it, but if you all actually sat down and watched the whole thing, you all would have noticed how all the shows ended... They ended with those same rappers squashing their beefs. They showed how both sides had a lot of growing up to do, and they showed how the two partie made up...

As far as BET in general goes, it's Black Entertainment Television... Keyword Black, Keyword Entertainment... It's not Dark skin Television... And it's about time they got a hispanic host... Shoot, they out number blacks in the U.S. anyway... Why do ya'll always wanna exclude people. And why does everyone want to jump on the I hate BET bus... BET ain't for old folks... Ya'll want an old folks black channel that shows reruns of old black comedies, and National Black Forum, then watch TV ONE... Embrace black... When yall takbad about lightskinned women, it just make ya'll look jealous...
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I haven't read this whole thread so sorry if I am repeating, but I had this observation:

Isn't is odd how in 2006 Prince (Prince?!) has one of the more darker skinned dancers in one of his videos?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHaAdamXQX0
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Well since Prince has become a Jehovah's Witness, maybe he has seen the light - or should I say the "dark".
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Edenson wrote:

Keyword Entertainment... It's not Dark skin Television... And it's about time they got a hispanic host

Why do ya'll always wanna exclude people.

Kola:

Dark skinned Black women have ALWAYS been excluded from BET--since it started, which is when I arrived in this country.

Obviously, that's alright with you---that the mother of our race can't be represented, because she's too black.

Which is what it is--chicken shit colorstruck nigger trash.

You sorry Black American fuckers and your EVIL HATE for black people...disgusts me.

Edenson:

When yall takbad about lightskinned women, it just make ya'll look jealous...

KOLA:

Yeah...sort of like when Dr. King and Malcolm X talked about White Skinned MEN and the injustice and prejudice that black men endured so that White Skinned MEN could live off the fat of the land.

How can it be mere jealousy when the mother of our race is so completely invisible?

Fuck you.

I'm raising my sons to slit your goddamned cracker brown throat!

It's you that's a nigger--not me.

White lov'n cracker brown bastard!!












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"NO NAME IN THE STREET”
by Kola Boof


They killed their own mother/
And the White People watched.

They killed their own mother
because they wanted to be
FREE/
(of the pain in her body)
Out of lies...they conjured up Hands.
Fists that PIMPED the Soul Machete.
They killed their own mother
because--she was black.
As Ghana
as dancing/as smiling
as chocolate cake batter on children's faces
as dusk
as cranberries
as yams/as honey
as Red and Gold leaves come autumn
as charcoal...they killed their own mother.
And the White People watched.

You see them with their lies
African nigger-stock
Proud and free as Piss
HIP hopp-ING
and carrying on
about their ancestors
--as Blind and ignorant as
new puppies underneath
a House Porch.
This is what Blind love reaps.
This is what Blind love reaps.
Disappointment that has no name in the street.

These killers
with no name in the street
who dare Call/ the White Man...Satan.

These HIP...HIP killers.


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Wonder how many dark skinned Hispanics/Latin(o/a)s/Blacks are on Telemondo....
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Well, Edenson so much for Kola's attempt to appear like a more responsible public figure befitting her status as the author of a "best-selling" book. She tries but, she just can't stop being a loose cannon. LMAO. If you value your "cracker-brown throat", steer clear of the sons she is raising to be throat-slitters.
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Kola:

Fuck you.

I'm raising my sons to slit your goddamned cracker brown throat!

It's you that's a nigger--not me.

White lov'n cracker brown bastard!!

Tonya:

You are all too powerful, girl!

And I second that.

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2 of a kind. Both demented. Pitiful.
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what is lmao?
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lmao means Laughin My Ass Off. Guess that's why Tonya got a flat butt cuz as Kola's stoodge, she has to keep laughing. heh-heh
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oh. thanks, i thought everyone just used lol :-)

tonya's always got nothing to say. i think edenson was right too, that does make them sound like str8-up haters.

White lov'n cracker brown bastard = tiger woods or clarence thomas, not anyone who be on this site.
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yvettep

Wonder how many dark skinned Hispanics/Latin(o/a)s/Blacks are on Telemondo....

not many, but on that cuban tv shows there where a bunch of them... but unfortunatly i don't recall any of them being female, most of them where white or carmel looking. in brasil i didn't watch tv, and in panama they had mostly carmel coated treats on tv. that reminds me, i wonder if this number for marisol is any good still. hmmm.
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Well, Dobes..


"i think edenson was right too, that does make them sound like str8-up haters"

answer Kola's question:

"Yeah...sort of like when Dr. King and Malcolm X talked about White Skinned MEN and the injustice and prejudice that black men endured so that White Skinned MEN could live off the fat of the land."

Was Dr. King and Malcolm X str8-up haters.. were they just jealous?
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lol your not even in the same ball park with that question. here let me phrase it so that it makes your argument right tonya...

"Yeah...sort of like when Dr. King and Malcolm X talked about Light Skinned WOMEN and the injustice and prejudice that dark skinned black women endured so that Light Skinned WOMEN could live off the fat of the land."

there you go tonya, now you and kola are right.
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That wasn't the question, Dobes.

I'll post it again:

Was Dr. King and Malcolm X str8-up haters.. were they just jealous?

Sorry if I confused you. LOL
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they'd be hating on your crazy ass tonya. u and kola need to have a coke and a smile. both of ya'll are nuts. you damn haters! lol.
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Actually, Malcolm X DID put it just like this---

"Yeah...sort of like when Dr. King and Malcolm X talked about Light Skinned WOMEN and the injustice and prejudice that dark skinned black women endured so that Light Skinned WOMEN could live off the fat of the land."



And he was right.

Light skinned women DO live off the fat of the land, and benefit from "color prejudice" more than any other group of people in the black community.

Their circumstance in comparison to that of dark skinned full black women with African hair is considerably REMOVED as Alice Walker observed in her book "In Search of Our Mother's Gardens".

These assholes Edenson and Doberman are merely proving the validity of what Malcolm X said decades ago.

Notice how they they DEFEND the exclusion of dark skinned black women---and no one---but a couple of Dark skinned black women are even remotely good enough to point their colorist attitudes out.








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No, Doberman, it's YOU who's the hater.

You could give a damn about BLACK WOMEN unless their color shows taces of whiteness.

You're just a typical selfish dog-hearted yellow piece of shit who tries to pass himself as a black man.

But you're not a black man. You're a fucking nigger.

Hot Piss left standing in a commode.

A hunk of SNOT dried up on a hallway bannister.



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My People!! My People!!

Where is duh nub?

Where is duh NUB?
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We aint the same people anymore.

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laughingmyfuhkinga$$off@ Kola's "But you're not a black man. You're a fucking nigger. Hot Piss left standing in a commode. A hunk of SNOT dried up on a hallway bannister."


Girl. You just ain't right for saying shyt like that.

But at least the snot is dry. Touch that shyt right after somebody's hocked it up and you about want to eat a hollowpoint bullet.
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His kind....I DO hate.

Has HE ever been a dark skinned black woman?

Has Edenson?

And how in the fuck can they call themselves "black men" and then turn around and say they don't care about my feelings or what happens to women like me?

I could cut their fucking balls off and stir 'em up in my scrambled eggs!!!!


And take note-----

If women like me don't fight for ourselves....who else will????

All kinds of men ROUTINELY come on these boards to defend high yellow negresses possessing the WHITE GENE.

But not a one stood up for me and Tonya.

So what else can we be but rough bitches??

Who else will fight for us?

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Kola,

You ever thought about taking up boxing? I think that might really help you to burn off a few hundred years frustration of bearing the myriad disappointments and failings of Black men.

Plus it'll really help tone you up.
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I guess you don't care either, ABM.



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It's so obvious.

Don't even respond.



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Millions of black children....day in and day out

are RAISED on the White Supremacist Images and Values of B.E.T.

And yet nobody gives a shit---because we're mostly Niggerstock over here anyway.

That's really what it is.

And after 150 years "FREE"....we're more pathetic than when we weren't.



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Are you the model for that carbon image?

It's BEEEUWTEEFUL!!!

Is that a real tear?
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Yes that's me.

No....they doctored the image.

Stan Olmer did me for NEWSWEEK, although I can guarantee you that my 1 paragraph story won't make it in.

I love it! :-)





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Stan trimmed down my features---which is kinda SUBLIMAL MESSAGEY.

I try not to be hurt.

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Thank you for saying something nice to me, ABM.


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You're welcome.

And, you know, it is a GOOD thing to be alive.
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The hatred that's coming from some of the men on these boards is incredibly eye opening for me. I come from an old-fashioned family and all of the men (except one colorstruck brother and two colorstruck cousins) love black women dearly. As far as I know they've always been faithful to their wives and there's only been two divorces in my entire family. These are men who have always put their family first, mothers, sisters, grand/daughters, ect.; and they love their wives deeply. Even the ones who are around my age are responsible men who love their family and wives/girlfriends completely. And almost all of them, regardless of age, are with brown to dark women. My grandfather married my granmother who was brown. My stepfather married my mother who is very dark. My oldest brother is married to a chcolate brown woman. My other brother, although he ended up marrying a women his complexion, was in love with a blue-black woman for most of his adult life. (They couldn't make it work. But there is no doubt that he still loves this woman). My uncles are all married to brown and dark women, as for most of my cousins. And ALLL of the dark women in my family are married to good men who adore them. So it's strange to witness the type of behavior that is coming from some of the colorstruck men on these boards. Yeah, I've met PLENTY of colorstruck men before (I even dated a few), but to actually read their thoughts and to obtain such an intimate understanding of how they view black women is simply amazing. I'm not complaining though; because like I said, it's an eye opener.
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hmmmm that's amazing, so since majority of black women that i have dated have been on the darker side ... similar to jordan's complextion i'd say, then i suppose it's fair to assume that makes them colorsrtuck for going out with me. i never really looked at it that way, how insightful. kola you can call me what you want, even late for dinner. i' don't care what your crazy ass says ... u make me laugh, i imagine you damn near bruising your fingers typing all hard on your keyboard like a little brat.

i will stand by my statement ... beyonce is just as much a black woman as regina king. just like malcolm was just as much of a black man as marcus garvey. only idiots and enemies try to seperate black people. by the way, it seems like you have alot of energy kola, if you don't like what you see on tv or magazines start your own entertainment network.
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my best buddy in the whole wide world tonya.
so what your saying is, if any of your relatives decided to go with any woman who didn't meat your shade approval/critera that automatically makes them colorstruck? last time i checked we all come in different shades of brown, let's see my mother has 12 brothers and sisters combined and believe it or not, there not all the same shade of brown. some are carmel, some choclate, and some dark chocalte. but according to your way of viewing life i'm supposed to treat my light skinned aunts like shit and treat all the rest of my aunts like queens. i'm supposed to be happy for my aunts who are sucessful in life and love if there of a darker hue, and say to my lighter aunts i hope you die poor broke and lonely. seriously that is the way that you guys are coming off, if thats the way you mean to come off, i'm proud to be everything you called me, because i will treat all my aunts, cousins, friends, and anyone else i care for the same way, and that's with the respect i feel is due to them. now...go get that coke and a :-)
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First off Kola... When I said, "when ya'll talk bad about light skinned women it makes ya'll look jealous," it had nothing to do with dark skinned women wantin to get their shine too... That is understandable, but when you try to discredit other black women because they are light skinned, or say they aren't black enough to represent "US" that is not fair. You can raise your sons however you choose, but unlike yourself my mother was smart enough to arm me with a rifle... So your sons would be dead before they would even have the opportunity to call me nigger... You have some nerve talkin the shit you talk, knowin damn well you were probably one gene away from bein light skinned your damn self. I'm runnin the same race, and jumpin the same hurttles that you are, so why are you tryin to trip me! Your sons are under the sheild of the government... Protected by the same white people that are supposedly your enemies... You are always contradicting yourself... You are all about the betterment of women, but if they are light skinned then they aren't worthy of being called black according to you. You love AA's, but every chance you get, you try to put them down, and make them feel inferior to Africans. If it weren't for BET, where would we be. What are you asking of BET?.. To put more dark skin people on? It's only one network!.. They just had a contest not too long ago for new hosts on BET... They had a beautiful black woman on there from Europe. She had an afro and all, but she couldn't host, so her ass was out. Should they have given her the part because she was dark skinned? Ya'll think the women in these rap videos are trashy, yet everyone wants more dark skinned girls in them. That's like me working for a drug prevention program, but on the hand I'm giving my brother drugs to go and sell for me... It makes no sense right? Kola get a clue.... Black is Black... it's not the color of your skin... It just is!
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Notice how they they DEFEND the exclusion of dark skinned black women---and no one---but a couple of Dark skinned black women are even remotely good enough to point their colorist attitudes out.

neither Edenson nor i defended ANY exclusion of any blk woman dark or light, we defended against you pissing on other black women for your benefit. so since you and tonya think that one shade of brown is superior to the other, then it is you two who are the colorist.
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The inconsistency of these female colorists is also what taints their legitimacy. They talk out of both sides of their mouths. They want the love and respect of the very men they disrespect. And although they hate mixed and light folks, they would consider marrying outside of their race.
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Just like you two HIGH YELLOW MEN have every right to defend your HIGH YELLOW women..

BLACK WOMEN have every right to defend BLACK WOMEN.

Continue to say/think what you like..

Black women will continue to do the same.

Kola you're so right. Not one socalled BLACK MAN came to defend BLACK WOMEN from these YELLOW MEN, not one.
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Cynique: "They want the love and respect of the very men they disrespect.


That is as profound a statement that's been made on this subject. It is the very Achilles of this entire Dark Black Women of the World Unite enterprise.
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And, by the way, Dobes, I made no mention of you in my February 09, 2006 - 07:23 post because I don't consider you a black man.

But, Kola's right about something else: black men have hated and disrespected black women to the point where any other man (yellow/nonblack) think they can do the same; and the sad part is that these men are right for thinking that.. they've figured that NO black man is gonna stop them from attacking black women, which is true.
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Abm geettt outta here!

Who in the heck is more disrespected on this earth than "dark black women" enterprise and chiefly by Black men.

I am just so sorry you guys. But Kola is far and away the most righteously RIGHT person on this issue that I have ever heard from.

I am light/yellow whatever and I agree 100% that when we demean and ignore the "dark black woman", we are in effect in killing off the black race and erasing the black man.


Would you agree with that Abm?

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I couldn't agree with Cynnique and Abm more.
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Hell, Cynique. I find my redbone self being treated like a "dark" skinned woman now that the black men's color bar has been raised to set white and latin women above us.

Kola is dead right. Our men have a problem and it's eventually going to kill off our culture just like slavery amputated us from Africa. Brothas was behind that too! LOL :-)

I don't see how anybody can deny the validity in what Kola says and especially that she loves her people enough to be hated by them for telling the truth.

Somebody's gotta risk their life for the people.

Hint to Abm:

what Kola says and especially that she loves her people enough to be hated by them for telling the truth.










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Tonya:
How can you defend black women when you exclude and segregate light from dark. You even put yellow and non black together. Authentic black isn't just dark skinned. My blackness isn't determined by my skin color, but by my heritage and my history. Why does my skin color limit me to the history that OUR ancestors gave birth to. Sade is just as black as Grace Jones... We come from the same place and we're trying to get to the same destination. That is going to be impossible when you continue to seperate our race into shades. Black is beautiful because of how diverse we are.

Kola:
It makes me wonder if you were light skinned would you still be trying to seperate the light from the dark.....
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You have to be careful about agreeing with me, ABM because that immediately brings out the "kola" in prettybabygirl who never seems to have anything to do at her desk at the Washington Post. Snort.
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Sade is just as black as Grace Jones... We come from the same place and we're trying to get to the same destination.


Yup. Both these women married/dated WHITE MEN only.

Just like Kola said--"erasing" the black man and black people.

Same destination alright.

I don't see how you can be so dense Edenson. We only put light/brite/white girls in videos for just this purpose. To become less black.

There are plenty of drop dead beautiful dark black women who could be featured as well.

Women whose genes would keep us black.

Right, Edenson?








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I don't have a desk at the Washington Post Cynique.

And I am not Kola, no matter how you try to make everyone who disagrees with you into Kola.

I trust that Abm knows your true feelings about black people, he aint stupid.

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It's not that black men have raised the bar on anything. If anything, a lot of black women have sunk below the bar that was set before them. Why are ya'll trying to compete in a race that ya'll have already won. The problem is that black women act like men. I don't want to be with another man. Act like a lady, and you'll be treated like one. I won't have to to go out to eat if my woman is serving me dinner at home. Hint Hint.... You just don't up and leave a good thing. Maybe there isn't a problem with the black man, but more of a problem with the black woman.........
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If they are so beautiful then why make them degrade they're selves on the very channel that all of you seem to despise...
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Why can't Sade and Grace Jones marry outside of their race.... Hell, Kola's parents did it... And her mother is Authentic Black according to her.
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BET teaches black youth to erase the black woman, which in turn--will eventually erase all black people.

It's that elementary Edenson.

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I don't give a DAMN how mad I've been at a black man/black men.. I HAVE NEVER let a nonblack chick or some far removed high yellow princess degrade black men infront of my face.. NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL.

That's the difference between black men and black women:

As much as black women defended black men in this country..

as many decades as we supported them..

EVEN WHEN THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS WERE DEAD WRONG....

Black women have never, no matter how much they were disrespected by black men.. no matter how ANGRY thay were with black men, they have NEVER sat back and let ANYBODY.. white woman, white man, nonblack foreigner, high yellow snob, ANYBODY.. disrespect black men infront of their faces.. NEVER!
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Ya'll just don't get it. Black is Black... what's with that high yellow shit. Is it really that difficult to understand Black is Black. Damn, even if you look back in African American history, a lot of our BLACK leaders were light skinned. And black men can't defend black women because ya'll are so damn manly that ya'll end up shoving us to the back while ya'll try to defend ya'll selves. Until you realize that black men are the back bone of our heritage, you're always going to be the under dog. How can we be your foundation if you're trying to build a house before the concrete has even dried.
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Edenson
dude trying to reason with them is like trying to reason with helmeted retards. who cares at this point, let them bust their craniums open, it's not like a brains gonna get damaged if it's not one there. may their insecurities eat them alive.
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Doberman, you're such a stupid guy.

It's like your dick is your brain.



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Hi all,

I couldn't help but to notice this very interesting topic, that has seemed to be quickly deteriorating.

I thought I would inject a little excerpt from a song by the late great Curtis Mayfield:

"WE PEOPLE WHO ARE DARKER THAN BLUE
THIS AIN'T NO TIME FOR SEGREGATING
I'M TALKING `BOUT BROWN AND YELLOW TOO
HIGH YELLOW GAL CAN'T YOU TELL
YOU'RE JUST THE SURFACE OF OUR DARK DEEP WELL
IF YOUR MIND COULD REALLY SEE
YOU'D KNOW YOUR COLOR SAME AS ME[.]"

Curtis Mayfield "We People Who are Darker than blue".

Peace.

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How do you win a war by destroying yourself?
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Tonya says:
"I don't give a DAMN how mad I've been at a black man/black men.. I HAVE NEVER let a nonblack chick or some far removed high yellow princess degrade black men infront of my face.. NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL. "
Cynique responds:But you sure let Kola/prettybabygirl rake black men over the coals on this public board, and you usually get a few jabs in, yourself.
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Doberman, you're such a stupid guy.

It's like your dick is your brain.

pbg your the one who's stupid, if you claim to be light skinned and your agreeing with 2 people who are saying your not even black because of your complextion. they are also saying that your dumb ass shouldn't be able to get jobs or have a love life, unless everyone darker than you is satisfied first. i don't think you should get anything in life because your a dumb ass, that's not being colorstruck either i think your the most ignorant person on here ... you should have been aborted or better yet whiped off of your stanky ass mama's vag with your daddies gym sock. you definitly weren't planned, the way you think i can tell no one took time to teach u anything. i was trying to be nice, but this is what happens when bad meets evil i guess. i told your stankin ass, i don't even bother with people like u before but this is gonna be fun. so type away you tired skank. :-)
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This is so funny y'all....

A couple of weeks ago, Babygirl and Reneta were having a debate about Renata's very heated assertion that some black folks refuse to stand up for black women when black women are being attacked yet when an outsider is under the same type of assault (in this case white folks, thus the topic of the thread, "white people are the dirtiest") those same black folks who refuse to defend black women will form lines to the hill to defend that outsider.

Well, this was my interjection to Reneta during that same debate:

Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:52 pm:


Reneta you have a point. An extremely interesting one at that. I started posting on these boards ONLY because Kola was out, and NOBODY - I mean NOBODY - was defending against the vicious attacks that were being hurled at black (particularly dark-skinned) women at the time. (Oops! Except Moonsigns and some biracial chick and that dude from Africa, the guy with the numbers behind his name.) So you definitely have a point.

And something else I've noticed....

When people feel that Lightskinned women are being attacked, EVERYBODY and their DADDIES and their GRANDMOMMAS come out of the woodwork. Now compare that to when darkskinned women are attacked... Pay attention the next time. I SWEAR TO GOD. Pay attention.

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Funny isn't it?
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tonya please show me a post where someone say's something about dark skinned black women ... i mean not where they say something about black women as a whole, but particualrly where they put emphasis on dark skinned black women. show me where someone has said, yeah tonya i loves me some high yella sistahs, latina mamis, and some fine ass white girls ... but you better not send no dark ass black women my way, because they (add negatives here). find me that posts, if u see one i am more than sure each and every one of the black men (cept the one who said it) would be on that person. so please show me that tonya.
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Of course you distorted the whole situation, Tonya. Nobody was defending white folks on this issue. They were protesting the level which Serensailor sunk to because since it is so easy to rail against white people in an intelligent way, why stoop to the grossness associated with white skinheads. And I pay a lot of attention when kola boof, that champion of authenticity attacks "low-brown" women, chastising them for trying to please their men by worrying about their weight and color. It just shows how full of bull she is and how short-sighted you and Renata are.
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Dobes,


show me a post where Kola or I said..

yeah Kola i loves me some deep chocolate sistahs, Jamaican mamis, and some fine ass African girls ...

but you better not send no high yellow women my way....



Show me ONE!
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My point is, Dobes..

what Kola And I say about lightskinned women is strictly POLITICAL....

All of this (verbal) harassment towards lightskinned women that you guys are charging us with is totally unfounded.

And if you disagree...again...show me one.
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How about your callin high yellow women a bunch of ho's and bitches and short-breeds, Tonya. Political? Get real. Your dislike of light-skinned females is palpable. Sorry, Doberman. I know this is your fight and I will now bow out.
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No I was calling YOU and YOUR high yellow shortbreeds ho's and bitches.

And yes. Using terms like "high yellow" and "shortbreeds" is very political, considering the CONTEXT I use them in.... I didn't say you have to like my politics. Quite frankly, I don't give a fuck if you don't.

And I know you're not going to tell that BOLD-FACED LIE that that wasn't Renata's assertion and that wasn't what the debate between RENETA and BABYGIRL was about! Not that it had anything to do with my point but still...
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I didn't say that wasn't Renta's assertion. That's what the argument was about, fool. That she was wrong in what she was accusing people of. Do you ever get anything straight?? And just who beside me are the high-yellow short breeds that you are calling hos and bitches. And I sure don't give as damn about you opinion of me, just quit trying to portray your stance as a political one when you ain't nothing but a pissed-off low-brown bitch.
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Tonya said:

A couple of weeks ago, Babygirl and Reneta were having a debate about Renata's very heated assertion that some black folks refuse to stand up for black women when black women are being attacked yet when an outsider is under the same type of assault (in this case white folks, thus the topic of the thread, "white people are the dirtiest") those same black folks who refuse to defend black women will form lines to the hill to defend that outsider.


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Of course you distorted the whole situation, Tonya....

Distort: 1)vt give an inaccurate report of something: to describe or report something in a way that is inaccurate or misleading----Encarta ® World English Dictionary.

Distort: 2)vti alter shape: to bend, twist, stretch, or change from a normal or natural shape, or make something do this---Encarta ® World English Dictionary .

Tonya:

I know you're not going to tell that BOLD-FACED LIE that that wasn't Renata's assertion and that wasn't what the debate between RENETA and BABYGIRL was about! Not that it had anything to do with my point but still...

Cynnique:

I didn't say that wasn't Renta's assertion. That's what the argument was about, fool. That she was wrong in what she was accusing people of. Do you ever get anything straight??
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tonya, i'd have to look, but i'm quite sure i can find something like that one of ya'll have said, especially if i include pbg's stankin' ass as part of your crew.

what the hell is a shortbreed? is it anything like short bread? because i like those especially with almonds.
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By the way Cynnique..

what came first, the assertion or the debate/"argument?"
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Lucky for you, Dobes, I don't have to look that far to back up my claim.

The topic of this thread was.....

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Have you noticed that all of the female host of B.E.T are light-skinned females? Take 106 & Park they have that Puerto Rican chick Julissa as the host. Also, B.E.T style they have light-skinned Melissa Ford as a host. The only host with a dark-skinned female is ComicView with Sherryl Underwood. And that is nothing but a minstrel show. Has anyone else noticed this?----Serenasailor

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.....why is it that more darkskinned girls aren't featured on B.E.T

But not long after it was launched, you and your homeboy rolled up on the thread defending the plight of lightskinned women.

What? ...Y'all didn't think the exclusion of darkskinned women- from a black entertainment television station, which includes lightskinned blacks, Latino and other ethnic groups, and all shades of black men- worthy of discussion? What?Y'all felt that the plight of lightskinned women was worthier of discussion?

And you don't think that that is enough to offend darkskinned women?


But here's my point..

notice how many people rushed in to challenge yall's apparent position.
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Edenson --

"Black is Black"

Black is an arbitrary designation codified by the (pure - if you want to call it that) white anglo establishment. In reality, if it weren't for that designation, people of African descent would be widely dispersed into other racial, ethnic and cultural groups based solely on their phenotype(s).
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In answer to you question, Tonya, Renata injected her assertion into the discussion about Serenasailor's comment and a "debate" between her and Babygirl followed. Did I say this didn't happen? You always make these convoluted statements that only you understand and then you get mad if people don't get what you want them to get from what you say. And you get even madder when they don't give the answer you were expecting because this doesn't allow you to score the ambiguous point you are trying to make.
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Nels, that was the best explanation I have ever heard for the word "black" as it pertains to its usage as a racial term in America!
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Truthquest: your contribution to this thread got lost in the shuffle, but it was very timely and significant considering who Curtis Mayfield was and how he looked.
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Go fuck yourself you human flaw. You're a stain smack-dab in the middle of humanity. You're a waste life..useless energy. Somebody need to cut you up and give your lungs to a smoker on death row.
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Are you talkin to me? (said in my best Robert DeNiro impersonation) LMAO. Wassa Matta, Tonya? That's the best retort you can come up with? Your frustration is showing. And I have never figured out how someone fucks themself but I'm sure you do this on a regular basis because certainly no man would wanna screw a whining, nagging, ball-bustin, sorry-assed loser like you. Maybe you ought to become a lesbo. I can think of a couple of posters around here who would make good partners for you. EU.
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BTW, Ton-Ton, you aren't by any chance collaborating with a-woman in your failed attempts at trying to pierce my armour, are you? ROTFLOL Hint: insults should always be grounded in reality, and what you came up with was meaningless babble that could not possibly describe someone who tells your ass off on a regular basis. snicker-snicker. Gotta go.
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Actually..

I wrote that with absolutely no emotion.. sorta like wiping your feet on a mat before entering a house, nothing to it. It's kinda cold now that I think about it.
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Now that you mention it, your "rant" was rather lackluster, ton-ton. And too bad you stumbled while trying to wipe those big feet on your mat. But, that's what happens when you're a lame-ass dufus. zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Quit playa hatin' Sis!
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If ya don't wanna get hated on, babe, den - don't hate. LOL
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I know I should stay outtah this.

But Tonya's The fact that Kola and I hate dem lightskindeded b*tches is really only "POLITICAL". disposition cracks me the fuhk up.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Why do I think you have just shot to the top of Kola's "shyt" list, ABM. heh-heh.
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tonya, tonya, tonya
i went back and looked at alot of the posts that you have made, oh my gawd! you should never represent any black woman dark or light, the stuff you wrote for sanaa lathan/hallee berry was just ridiculous. i had a feeling that you where just a little bitter chicken head always looking to start an unwarranted fight ... man i had never been so right in my life! you need help! :-)
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Cut and paste nigga and let's debate that shit.

Like I give a fuck what your feelings are.

We all feel a certain way.

I feel you're an overweight high yellow Big Pun look alike who can't put down the super-sized long enough to to come up with a thought independent of your circumstances.. a man who hates black women simply because, as desperate as some are, none are desperate enough to fuck your fat, colorless, out of control, disease infested, irresponsible, broke ass.

All of that may or may not be true, but if you've been following me long enough, you understand that I could care less either way. Pull a thread and stick to debating the issue. Don't worry about me, nigga....Truuust, me...I am not worried about you.

Abm,

What's so funny?
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LOL tonya your a little comedian!!!! i'm fat? LOL!!!! tonya i am as fat as i am poor... so if your ever in the midwest look me up, and i'll show the slums of canton, michigan, then you can feel free to make posts about how ragedy my condo is, how disgustingly overweight i am, how unattractive my girlfriend is, and let's not forget how busted my vehicles are too... LOL!

seriously, tonya your the greatest! and seriously hit me up and i'll show you how poor my life is :-)
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There are only so many hosts on BET. Two on 106th and Park, One on The Center, One on Ra City, and two on some other corny show, and one on comic view. As of right now, there are only three main woman hosts on BET. One Puerto Rican, One light skinned, and one dark skinned... Seems fair to me.
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Tonya,

Never mind.
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I feel like I need to jump in here because there's a lot of bullshit flying around this board. Doberman, Cynique and others have set up a bunch of strawmen to totally disrupt the significance of the main post: the paucity of darker-skinned women on BET, whether as show hosts or video actresses. This is a serious issue with serious ramifications. The crux of the matter is, BET (and the hip-hop/R&B industry, for that matter) is sending its viewers the message that black women are only acceptable insofar as they more resemble the dominant culture than the African culture. That's a problem and it has negative effects on all African Americans, as it is teaching us that there is something wrong with being black, period.

It's incredible to me that any African American of sound mind and self-respect would defend this.
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Black Wisdom - I agree with you 100%
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It's defended because, unfortunately, the White Supremacy machine works.
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Zuriburi said:
It's defended because, unfortunately, the White Supremacy machine works.

My reply:
And that's the crux of the issue right there. This is about the ravages of White Supremacy and Black Inferiority on our community. The only way to defeat it is to acknowledge it, how it affects our thinking and beauty aethetic, and take conscious steps to do better. It's not okay to say things like, "well, I just have a preference for lighter-skinned/more white people." If we are to survive, we have to challenge the horrible notion that "black aint beautiful" every day, in our minds. Pretending that it isn't real is incredibly destructive to all African Americans, of any color.
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I stop watching B.E.T years ago when they first started excluding darkskinned women. It's actually been a long time since they've been doing this. I can remember when it started. At the time, nobody else seemed to notice, mainly because medium brown and lighskinned women were still being highlighted. As soon as latina and Asian women started taking over, however, people began to talk; and it was only then that folks started feeling distraught about the exclusion of darkskinned women. Of course I could see the cruelty in that, not to mention the downright hypocrisy. But at the same time, I was happy that people were at least starting to talk about it. Well. Some people :-)
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Well, Black wisdom(?)you are naive when you sit around doing all of this bitching and preaching. Surely you don't think that will change the system. We're not playing patti-cake here. There are winners and losers; that's the name of the game. Show business is made up of exploiters and those who are exploited and this transcends race. People do what's expedient. Deal with reality.
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Cynique, I don't really know what to say to you. Each movement which has forced this society to take steps to acknowledge the human-ness of black people was begun under inauspicious and difficult circumstances. It makes me very sad that you are not even willing to try, instead embracing an ideology which denies the personhood of all African Americans. I'm sorry that as I and others like me continue to push forward, that I have to carry your dead, ignorant weight because of your refusal to stand up for yourself. You should actually be quite ashamed.
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She won't find a problem with it....until a hispanic or Asian woman takes HER place.
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Yeah, yeah, Black Wisdom(?) I just like to unsettle people who take themselves so seriously and think that their tired old arguments are new and revolutionary. But rest asssured that you have come to the right place to air these grievances. So join the chorus of voices and hope you can be heard above the drone of others saying the same thing.
And I see you're back adding your whimper to the wailing wall, Renata. So have you lost any weight yet, Tubby? LOL I'm outta here. Buh Bye
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I didn't eat for 2 days and GAINED 4 pounds. I don't know what's up with that. Fuck diets.
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I was wrong about my weight anyways. I don't own a scale because I don't want to be reminded of my weight constantly. My weight when I arrived in MS was 158. I don't really eat much in MS...too greasy, too fattening, too salty, too sweet, and too much pork. Two days before I left, I weighed 162.

The last time I was weighed was when I was pregnant. I was 202 pounds a week before my son was born.
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I found out that I can see an herbalist (who I trust more than western doctors anyways) for only 125.00, plus the cost of herbs. I'll probably be seeing one in a few weeks and see if I can get something for low blood sugar.
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Black_Wisdom,

The truth is that the black people in this country have never been FREE or been anything other than.....the sum of their niggerdom.

It's all they know. So there's a comfort in it, a "familiarity", no matter how degrading and self-destructive.

And this is why I feel that the people in Africa, supposedly doing all the suffering----are better off than the Black Americans.

Materialism keeps the Black American from seeing this. They think having a "fab weave" and a lifestyle similar to those on T.V. are the epitome of success and well being.

I have lived on both continents and I am put together by both sets of relatives, African and Black American (and Arab).

So I KNOW that most of the people living in the 50 nations in Africa are better off.

It's the Black Americans...who desperately need to be rescued/saved/re-programmed.

Which is why I can't leave.

I am one of the few African women who has been put in a position to realize that....I am their real mother. And I have to take whatever abuse and rejection in order to begin planting a new seed in them.

God has shown me...the more you know; the more you owe.

I am stronger than they are and they cannot love themselves until I annoint them.

They are like a nest of hatched chicks with beautiful fur and shiny eyes, but starving and irritable.

So I agree 100% with everything you've said, because I detest BET.

I think BET is the single worst "dispencer" of self-hate and self-destruction that there is in the AA community.

Millions are glued to it daily...receiving the LIE.

And it only takes one lie....to unravel the whole world.













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Cynique said:
Yeah, yeah, Black Wisdom(?) I just like to unsettle people who take themselves so seriously and think that their tired old arguments are new and revolutionary. But rest asssured that you have come to the right place to air these grievances. So join the chorus of voices and hope you can be heard above the drone of others saying the same thing.

Wisdom says:
Please don't imagine that your attitude is witty, new, clever, or provocative. Apologists are, and always have been, much more "tired," "old," and destructive than black progressives.

Kola_boof said:
I am one of the few African women who has been put in a position to realize that....I am their real mother. And I have to take whatever abuse and rejection in order to begin planting a new seed in them.

God has shown me...the more you know; the more you owe.

I am stronger than they are and they cannot love themselves until I annoint them.

Wisdom says:
I agree with most of your comment but take issue with a few portions, including the one quoted above. Yes, African Americans still languish under constant, continuous attacks against the idea of our personhood in this society. Some of us have always lacked the wherewithall to challenge that. However, African Americans are also responsible for fighting for, and attaining, a standard of living and a set of rights that are arguably unmatched throughout the black diaspora. There were African Americans so strong, so invested, that they were willing to die to make this so. We still have far to go, but have accomplished much. I don't think your comment shows a real grasp of this truism.
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Black wisdom, you really get bugged with people who are not in awe of you, don't you? You apparently function best in a forum where everybody else is your audience. I am a mischief maker. You are a tight-ass. And so it goes.
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Black wisdom, you really get bugged with people who are not in awe of you, don't you? You apparently function best in a forum where everybody else is your audience. I am a mischief maker. You are a tight-ass. And so it goes.

Why would anyone be in awe of anyone else on a message board? You make no sense. It seems as if what has you angered is that I am one of those uppity niggers who sees no reason to hold my tongue. Who do I think I am, right? I just think I'm so intelligent, right? Well, you'll show me my place, won't you? You'll pull me back in the barrel with the rest of the crabs...

Check yourself.
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I don't have to check myself, black widsom; I make no excuses for the impressions I get from people. And "uppity nigger who sees no reason to hold my tongue" was not what came to mind when I read your posts. It was more like, - how can I say -"tight ass" And, believe me, there are plenty of folks on this board who are in awe of Kola Boof. And I ought to know because her admirers give me hell all the time. All kinds of people participate in this forum and many of them are quite intelligent. So you are not unique in that respect.
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I don't have to check myself, black widsom; I make no excuses for the impressions I get from people. And "uppity nigger who sees no reason to hold my tongue" was not what came to mind when I read your posts. It was more like, - how can I say -"tight ass" And, believe me, there are plenty of folks on this board who are in awe of Kola Boof. And I ought to know because her admirers give me hell all the time. All kinds of people participate in this forum and many of them are quite intelligent. So you are not unique in that respect.

Who/what am I in awe of? Pixels on a fucking screen? I don't personally know anyone here and I'm quite sure no one knows me. I came to this message board and stuck around after lurking because the comments seem to represent my favorite type of people: smart, positive, honest black people. I enjoy reading the boards here, yet feel no compulsion to befriend, much less stand in awe of, anyone.

Your comments most certainly have a tinge of "I'm going to take that mothersucker down a notch." What has made you upset is the tinge of self-satisfaction that is present throughout my few posts. That pisses you off. As a black person, it is insulting to you that I should be so self-satisfied. It angers you. You need to examine that. Check yourself.
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Black_Wisdom said:

However, African Americans are also responsible for fighting for, and attaining, a standard of living and a set of rights that are arguably unmatched throughout the black diaspora.

KOLA:

This is not true.

It's just that YOUR STORY is the only one you know about.

It's like being impressed by the supposed "militancy" of the films of Spike Lee....and then watching the films of Senegal's Ousmane Sembene.

Africans have quite a different battle than Black Americans and our gains and victories in Africa have been just as great, MORE varied and just as profound.

What you see on t.v....is what White people allow you to see.








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And Black_Wisdom, THIS COMMENT:

Kola_boof said:
I am one of the few African women who has been put in a position to realize that....I am their real mother. And I have to take whatever abuse and rejection in order to begin planting a new seed in them.

God has shown me...the more you know; the more you owe.

I am stronger than they are and they cannot love themselves until I annoint them



....was with regard to Self-Hatred based on LOOKS, the "inate" Blackness of Black People....referring to the topic...B.E.T. and Black American's desire to be White and to be distanced from anything African.

Nowhere has this TOPIC or my comments been representative of "achievements in the Diaspora"---otherwise, I wouldn't have made it.



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Well Kola, I'm not denigrating the (successful) struggles of numerous African nations against colonialism. I am merely asking that you acknowledge and respect the struggles that African Americans have engaged here. We have created a nearly unmatched standard of living and set of rights. We did die to make that possible. We also launched numerous campaigns, most famously the anti-Apartheid campaign, to show solidarity and force reform in continental Africa. Obviously, we still have far to go and I admire any black person who is willing to fight with us. I just ask that you respect what we have done here, despite the obvious need that we put the coons on notice, and strive for greater black achievement.
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....was with regard to Self-Hatred based on LOOKS, the "inate" Blackness of Black People....referring to the topic...B.E.T. and Black American's desire to be White and to be distanced from anything African.

Nowhere has this TOPIC or my comments been representative of "achievements in the Diaspora"---otherwise, I wouldn't have made it.


Fair enough.
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Black_Wisdom,

I have always acknowledged the gains made here by Black Americans.

The many books I write testify to that in my constant homage to my idols Malcolm X, Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, Sojourner, Harriet...

The list is endless, and of course, I was raised by Black Americans--they saved my life.

And don't forget.....Africa is crawling with COONS and Niggerstock.

North Sudan and South Africa are whole nigger nations.

I'm with you 100%

But many bigoted Africans need to acknowledge that THEY are the parents of the Black Americans....and therefore responsible.

There is an attitude among Africans that the Black Americans are not really black anymore, and that it would be better if they become mulattos and disappear into the American landscape.

I'm against that.

Black Americans are OUR children. Forever.





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^^^^^^

I can get with that. Thanks for your replies.
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You are making assumptions, Black Wisdom. Many posters on this board have criticized me of being a high-yella bitch who is comfortable in her skin, so I don't have a problem with anyone else who is self-satisfied and well-adjusted. Bottom line, I find you guilty of nothing more than having an elevated male ego.
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You are making assumptions, Black Wisdom.

None more than you.

Many posters on this board have criticized me of being a high-yella bitch who is comfortable in her skin

They were mistaken. You are far from "comfortable in [your own] skin. Run that hustle, elsewhere. But perhaps the "bitch" part...

so I don't have a problem with anyone else who is self-satisfied and well-adjusted. Bottom line, I find you guilty of nothing more than having an elevated male ego.

You're funny. Your comments to me speak volumes, and I'm not afraid to read between the lines. There are certain types of black people who really hate seeing other confident, perhaps self-absorbed, but undoubtedly self-assured black people. Pisses them off. Your comments put you in this category. Be on notice, though: I have zero tolerance for coons; I will seek to strike you down whenever to respond to me. I want to see your type alienated from the black community/family. Battle on, "bitch."
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Boy, are you on the defensive. Why would you go ballistic because I said you were self-confident with an ego? Is that an insult? And believe me babe you need to check yourself. I've been in my skin a loong time and I wouldn't have it any other way. I don't have any axes to grind except with people who try to read me out of the race. So get your pants out of your ass crack.You are actually beginning to sound insecure.
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Wow! I'm still amazed at the way black wisdom overracted. He calls himself reading between the lines. Wonder if he's cross-eyed? Ya think?
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Boy, are you on the defensive. Why would you go ballistic because I said you were self-confident with an ego? Is that an insult? And believe me babe you need to check yourself. I've been in my skin a loong time and I wouldn't have it any other way. I don't have any axes to grind except with people who try to read me out of the race. So get your pants out of your ass crack.You are actually beginning to sound insecure.

Oooh, ooga booga, Cynique tries her/his hand at reverse psychology. My mind is melting at the profundity of Cynique's rejoinders!

You wanna tussle with me? Let's go, lady.

Cynique: you have been put on notice. You are finally receiving the type of response you have been aiming for with your numerous insinuations and attacks on my comments. I have declared open season on coons: those blacks who seek to denigrate other blacks at every turn for having "tired" progressive ideas. I want this type banished out of the family; you are a hindrance to our progress. Begone. Or, alternatively, we can make peace, learn to respect each other's viewpoints and dedication to the family, and end this spat now. Your choice.
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You say you read between the lines, black wisdom, but you don't. You misinterpret, and see things that are not there. So allow me to make myself clear so you won't have to read between the lines. You are a loose cannon who is a tad paranoid. Now, you can bust your ass, keying out insults for my benefit but I am not going spend my Friday night sitting in front of a computer arguing with a hyper-active hot shot. Save your ultimatum for somebody who will be intimidated by it. Maybe I'll get back to you later.
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Cynique TRULY hates black people and has admitted that she wants to see the Black Americans "breed" themselves into a state of "mulatto mixed raceness".

She feels that this is the natural order of things.

And reading her posts, you can see why the Black Americans were enslaved for 400 years.

Imagine the many slave mothers like her---guarding their Mulatto blood----and looking down their ski slope noses at the black masses; instructing their progeny how to EMULATE and respect the White Master.

How to accept his boot straps instead of fashioning their own.

She is the quintessential high yellow house negress.

I love her, because she is my child, too--and is an Elder in her 70's (which must be respected), but I don't even bother with her anymore.

She is a nigger.

A relic of our dehumanization.







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You say you read between the lines, black wisdom, but you don't. You misinterpret, and see things that are not there.

Hmmm, a commenter who prides him/herself of going out of his/her way to stir up shit is now accusing others of baseless assumptions and shit-stirring...interesting...


So allow me to make myself clear so you won't have to read between the lines.

Yes, come with it...

You are a loose cannon

There may be some truth to that...

who is a tad paranoid.

Not paranoid, just not stupid, don't play games with me, Cynique, you wanna start it? Then bring it...

Now, you can bust your ass, keying out insults for my benefit but I am not going spend my Friday night sitting in front of a computer arguing with a hyper-active hot shot.

Where's my Ritalin? Shit, all that money for health care coverage, and I only needed to post to a message board to be diagnosed with a disease. Are you a doctor now, Cynique? Damn, a woman/man of many talents. Are you a jack(ass) of all trades, Cynique?

Save your ultimatum for somebody who will be intimidated by it.

You're intimidated, alright. Or else you wouldn't have come after me to try to show your chops.

Maybe I'll get back to you later.

I could only be so lucky to hear yet another pearl of wisdom drop from the keyboard of Cynique.

Begone from the family, Cynique, begone.
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LMAO. 2 deluded fools; a whore and an asshole who think their words carry weight in the REAL world. What? Me Worry? Nope. Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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LMAO. 2 deluded fools; a whore and an asshole who think their words carry weight in the REAL world. What? Me Worry? Nope. Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

To paraphrase Cynique's last message: "I have no real retort because even someone as intellectually dishonest as I am knows when I am outmatched."

Cynique, have a nice weekend and perhaps think about some of the wisdom I tried to impart to you. Age aint nothin but a number. Some of the sorriest members of my family are over 50. Still hustlin, still disconnected from God. God bless.
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This is so hilarious. I'll bet you've been sitting in front of your computer, all evening,black wisdom, eyes transfixed, anxiously waiting for me to come back on line. And once again you expected a reply when you had said nothing. BTW, A bit of advice; take everything the fork-tongued Kola says with a grain of salt. She's coo-coo. Nighty-Night.
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Black_Wisdom_ --

"It's incredible to me that any African American of sound mind and self-respect would defend this."

I suggest you get a life, because the other shoe is about to drop. The fun is just beginning.
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Looks like you ruffled some feathers Black Wisdom

Here come the rest of the coons.

What puzzles me is a belief, that I think undelies the perspective of those who whould defend a BET or a Soul Train perhaps.

They really beleive that through the gradual erasure of Blackness and dark skin they will eventually be accepted by this White culture.

This will never happen. The root of White Supremacy is not entirely based on the preservation of whiteness (if at all),

but the garantee of some level of power based on that whiteness.

So, although someday, hypothetically speakind and God forbid, we may all reach the peceived and false perfect asthetic of whitness, there will still be marginalisation of "unpure" groups.

Except by then there will probably be a 5 minute test that can instantly tell just how much non-white blood you have.

You will STILL be marginalized. And they will STILL hold the power.

Wake Up!
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This is so hilarious. I'll bet you've been sitting in front of your computer, all evening,black wisdom, eyes transfixed, anxiously waiting for me to come back on line.

So what if I was?

And once again you expected a reply when you had said nothing.

You had plenty of replies to several of my equally meaningless ad hominem attacks when you still thought you had a chance in hell of matching wits with me. What's up with the dishonesty which has laced several of your replies to me?

BTW, A bit of advice; take everything the fork-tongued Kola says with a grain of salt. She's coo-coo. Nighty-Night.

I take everything on a message board with a grain of salt.

And now my turn to give you a little piece of advice:
One thing that was clear from our little interactions on this and the OJ Simpson threads is that serious, clever black people ("tight asses") piss you off. You have admitted that when you detect this characteristic, you seek to belittle and deflate. That's a coon mentality right there. Taking other black people down and causing chaos in the family is the coon's modus operandi. Some introspection on your part is in order.
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I suggest you get a life, because the other shoe is about to drop. The fun is just beginning.

Sorry, I don't speak coon. Nels, would you translate your comment for me?
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They really beleive that through the gradual erasure of Blackness and dark skin they will eventually be accepted by this White culture.

**********

So, although someday, hypothetically speakind and God forbid, we may all reach the peceived and false perfect asthetic of whitness, there will still be marginalisation of "unpure" groups.


Agreed.

And furthermore, every African American of any color loses out in a paradigm which posits that blacks can only be acceptable insofar as they are deemed acceptably white enough to be granted semi-personhood. Any black person who would defend, even embrace, such a paradigm is as much a threat to the family as their ideological ancestors who anxiously ran to massa and ratted out slave revolts. That's how serious this is.
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Yes. It is that serious

And although not entirely due to our own undoings it seems that we have agreed to a voluntary genocide.

Some deny it, some can't see it, some are CURRENTLY benefiting from it and thus support it, some are so dysfuntional and full of self hate that they comply, but it is happening.

Right before our eyes.
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Blah, blah, blah, black wisdom. Didn't I tell you straight out that I was a mischief maker? You're flattering yourself into thinking that I am guilty of all the diabolical things you attribute to me. Most of the time, I just say things off the top of my head. If you weren't so obsessed with thinking that I was trying to wound your pride, then you could let this go. Your bravado does not disguise your thin skin. You need to learn how to chill out. I don't have that much to say on the subject of BET and its images. It caters to its demographic and earns decent ratings. This is a bidness, baby. Black folk have been expressing their righteous indignation about how they are portrayed in the public eye since minstrel days over a hundred years ago. BET is no gauge of how things have progressed; it is bubble gum entertainment. In a broader sense, things have improved. One solution is for blacks to focus on giving their kids a better set of values and to demand that schools provide better educations so that the future generation can have the credentials and wherewithal to pool their resources and buy their own TV stations and movie studios and distribution companies.
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Zuriburi: This is America. What you describe will not go away until embracing the mainstream loses its appeal. Ain't gonna happen. America is not the turf of black folks. Africa is.
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Didn't I tell you straight out that I was a mischief maker? You're flattering yourself into thinking that I am guilty of all the diabolical things you attribute to me.

And so you are not admittedly someone who likes to take down "tight asses"? Who seeks to ridicule and deflate other blacks for nothing more than their propensity to take themselves and their intelligence seriously? And that's not coonish?

Most of the time, I just say things off the top of my head. If you weren't so obsessed with thinking that I was trying to wound your pride, then you could let this go.

Um, this is not even consistent with the remainder of your comment.

Your bravado does not disguise your thin skin. You need to learn how to chill out.

More weaseling out of your part in the conflict by placing the responsibility on another to somehow keep track of your inconsistent and mercurial tendencies.

I don't have that much to say on the subject of BET and its images.

Then sheeet up.

It caters to its demographic and earns decent ratings. This is a bidness, baby.

So was slavery, genius.

Black folk have been expressing their righteous indignation about how they are portrayed in the public eye since minstrel days over a hundred years ago.

And so because the battle is long, we should stop fighting it? Makes zero sense.

BET is no gauge of how things have progressed; it is bubble gum entertainment.

This is a ridiculous argument. Media images of African Americans have a tremendous impact on how we see ourselves. BET is the largest entertainment network for black people. The colorism that they tacitly endorse most certainly has real-world implications on how (particularly young) people evaluate the acceptability of blackness.

In a broader sense, things have improved.

There is some truth to that.

One solution is for blacks to focus on giving their kids a better set of values and to demand that schools provide better educations so that the future generation can have the credentials and wherewithal to pool their resources and buy their own TV stations and movie studios and distribution companies.

This is not an either/or scenario. Of course, we need to pursue long-term goals. Yet we must also demand that our existing entertainment venues reflect a set of values which embrace the acceptability and personhood of blacks. There is no excuse for defending BET's colorism, none.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 02:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And is Zuriburi Kola Boof in a different guise? I don't like internet sock puppets...
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I am not Kola Boof. Although I am a fan of her

work
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 03:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's funny, BlackWisdom, because I was sure that you were Kola Boof.

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We are all internet sock puppets! LOL!!!
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 03:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Put me down too folks. :-)

I am not Kola Boof, but any and everyone who has a similar view to hers or appreciates her books is immediately accused of being Kola on this board.

I think that's why Abm wouldn't answer my posts. He thought I was Kola playing around.

Heck, Schakspir even accused Cynique of being Kola! LOL




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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 03:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am not Kola Boof. Although I am a fan of her

work, and most of what she says, because its the

truth.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I stand corrected Zuriburi. Thanks for replying, and please accept my apology.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 03:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW, I asked not because or your views, which are obviously correct to the chagrin of some of the regressives who have posted on this thread, but because of what I thought was a similarity in style. My humble apologies, again.
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Apology accepted.

I would not put myself in Kola's category as far as writting ability goes. She and many of the posters are professional writers with an eloquence and creative ability that I don't possess.

But I do double space my sentences like Kola. I just prefer the appearance.
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Black Wisdom, I don't have to justify myself to you any further. If you don't like what I say, that's too bad. And I'm sure that you don't care that what you say has little impact on me. You're tiresome. It should also be obvious to you that this BET topic is an ongoing subject that I am weary of discussing day in and day out. You have all of the answers to this black dilemma. So yap on. Talk is cheap.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, I have figured out why I have come to dislike you. It's your prettybabygirl persona. But, this is cyberspace, so anything goes.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 05:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW, Zuriburi, with you being a Kola Boof disciple, I am surprised you did not have a response to the post I directed to you.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black Wisdom, I don't have to justify myself to you any further. If you don't like what I say, that's too bad. And I'm sure that you don't care that what you say has little impact on me. You're tiresome. It should also be obvious to you that this BET topic is an ongoing subject that I am weary of discussing day in and day out. You have all of the answers to this black dilemma. So yap on. Talk is cheap.

Whatever. I'm also quite sick of arguing with you, as you change your story with each response. It's squashed. Can we move on, or will you continue to try to belittle and ridicule my posts?
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 06:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You and I are definitely not on the same wave length, black wisdom. I would deny that my last post changed my position in any way, just like I'm sure you don't see yourself as being myopic and hypersensitive. So, yes, let's move on.
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 06:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique said "This is America. What you describe will not go away until embracing the mainstream loses its appeal. Ain't gonna happen. America is not the turf of black folks. Africa is."

I usually won't engage in tit for tat. I'll never be convinced of your perspective or you mine. So I think it's a futile waste of time.
Although it is entertaining to read.

Just because it may not go away (and I am not optimistic that it will) it does not mean that I will participate in it. I could not fathom, knowing what I know is the true root of this rush to become similar to the mainstream, not resisting. I have too much intergity. Obviously this is not true for you.

Furthermore, Cynique this 'voluntary genocide' was also planted (via colonialisation)and is now spreading in Africa and the rest of the globe for that matter.

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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 07:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Zuri, you have so much class, common sense and "mother wit".

It just oozes through this board like pure free soul.

I for one appreciate your integrity so much.





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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 07:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WOW!

Thanks Kola
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 07:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh shut up Kolaburi. I won't even dignify your remarks with a reply. Go get a dildo, kola so you can screw yourself by having an orgy with all of your concocted personalitites. You are a total psychopathic fraud. I'm outta here!
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Cynique---honestly. I can't take a dildo.

I'm not able to make myself take dick.

A MAN has to get on top of me and make me take dick.

It hurts at first, but once he's in and moving at a pace--the pain becomes a kind of delirium fever pulse and my nipples get huge and hot and I have convulsive responsive Erotic tension spasms.

I come very easily, because of the infibulation, so I get incredibly wet and slippery, which slightly eases the pain from the tightness that infibulation brings.

With my hand, I can't take dildo.

I need dick.



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Black_Wisdom_

"Sorry, I don't speak coon. Nels, would you translate your comment for me?"

Coon? I didn't "go there"... Translate? The retorts to your dialogue have spoken for themselves.
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Kola:
I come very easily, because of the infibulation, so I get incredibly wet and slippery, which slightly eases the pain from the tightness that infibulation brings.


uh Kola...that's cum...not come.
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ick!


I hate that stuff.

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LOL!

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