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Mrs_hart
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 07:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

University Compares Expelling Gay Student To Stamping Out Smoking

Siloam Springs, Arkansas) A small Christian liberal arts university that expelled a gay student for failing to adhere to "lifestyle" rules set down by the school is now comparing his dismissal to a hospital asking someone to leave because they are smoking.

Michael Guinn said John Brown University expelled him Jan. 13 for violating " campus lifestyle guidelines".
Guinn said he was required to adhere to behavior codes not required of other students. He said the university learned last summer that he was gay after someone e-mailed the administration a link to Guinn's online journal.

According to Guinn, he was required to sign a pledge that he would not dress in women's clothing, not slap others on the buttocks if he was a member of a sports team, not hug or shake hands with other men for too long, not "broadcast his lifestyle", and not tell other students he was gay until he knew them well.

Guinn said it was difficult to make friends under the restrictions.

On the weekend the university released a statement to correct what it called "misconceptions" in Guinn's account. The statement however did not address the specifics of Guinn's allegations, except to say that it did not have separate "lifestyle" contracts for difference students.

"We can say in general, however, that Guinn’s repeated and knowing violation of the standards laid out in the community covenant that he signed warranted our disciplinary decision, which is consistent with other cases of student discipline in the past," the statement said.

It went on to say that hospitals ask anyone smoking to leave and notes that airports remove anyone making threats, so too, the statement said, the university has the obligation to expel anyone violating its rules of conduct.

"As a Christian university we believe that scripture sets our standards for the ways in which we should live our lives. We articulate those standards for our undergraduates in our community covenant. We do not have separate covenants for different undergraduates on campus, and we discipline on the basis of behavior, not on the basis of identity," the statement said.

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Abm
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:23 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Siloam Springs, Arkansas) A small Christian liberal arts university that expelled a gay student for failing to adhere to "lifestyle" rules set down by the school"
A small CHRISTIAN school be allowed to establish and enforce its own codes of ethics and morality.

"not slap others on the buttocks if he was a member of a sports team"
How would we react to a male slapping a female students a$$?
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Chrishayden
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 02:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That student was a fool. Why is he trying to go somewhere he isn't wanted?

It is akin to me joining the klan by mail and getting put out when they find out I am black.

Duhhh!
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Serenasailor
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ChrisHayden You wouldn't happen to be a SNOWQUEEN would you?
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Kola_boof
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 05:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, he's not. I can vouch for Chris.

That's my fishing buddy.

Only instead of cans of beer, we take thermos's of chilled blood with us. (wink)









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Serenasailor
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 06:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, he's not. I can vouch for Chris.

That's my fishing buddy.

Only instead of cans of beer, we take thermos's of chilled blood with us. (wink)

Kola you know what a snowqueen is? LOL
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Abm
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Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

I think this Serenasailor character is trying to imply that you serve up a$$ and BJ's exclusively to White guys.
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Serenasailor
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Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think this Serenasailor character is trying to imply that you serve up a$$ and BJ's exclusively to White guys.

No Abm I was not implying anything. I was just simply asking a question. And you know what a snowqueen is? LOL
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Shemika
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think the boy is an arrogant idiot. If it is a religious school that adheres to the Christian belief in refraining from sex then of course homosexuality is inappropriate as well - and he is just being disrespectful. He knows he is not committed to their religious belief system. Obviously he is more committed engaging in homosexuality which doesn't give him the right to disrespect other’s belief not to do so.
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Shemika
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And BTW, I think smoking is comparable to other habits such as various sexual addictions that people pick up.

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