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Serenasailor
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 07:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think to many black men hate themselves. I see it all the time(I live in L.A). Too many black men have the stupid white is right attitude that is why they praise and worship women of other races. My own brother hates black women that is why he married a Latina. He stated to me that he wanted his children to have light-skin and long hair. What do you think?
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 08:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's not just happening with men. My own sister is dating a white guy, and is telling people she's bi-racial because his family won't accept her if she's full black. It's disgusting. She knows not to have me with her when she visits them, because I'll go there rocking some afro puffs.
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serenasailor --

The world is changing, so get used to it. Black folks owe no allegiance to their own kind or to anyone else.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 12:42 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black folks owe no allegiance to their own kind or to anyone else.





What kind of people produces a man who would say such a thing?

This is not human.

Nor truly possible.

What a selfish, despicable weak link, a "nigger", who has adapted the white people's poison---an ideal that not even they live by.

Any people whose SONS believe such a thing...will surely perish.







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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 12:46 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Black folks owe no allegiance to their own kind or to anyone else.


This is kind of thinking...is exactly why 70% of Black Children have no father in the home.

The highest in world history.

I've seen many black men who actually live by this moral.




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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 01:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola --

You're absolutely pathetic. Get over the funk of your downtrodden blackness and drink a glass of (white) milk. It's good for the bones, or so they say. For the mind, the jury's still out.

I've got two tickets for you to Sudan, earned by frequent "sailor" miles. Either return to your roots or embrace your destiny.

Welcome to Niggerdom. Lunch is on us.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 03:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm pathetic?

You're the one who said:




Black folks owe no allegiance to their own kind or to anyone else.









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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 07:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No wonder I left Niggastan and moved to Africa. I could not stand this shit anymore.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think to many black men hate themselves. I see it all the time(I live in L.A). Too many black men have the stupid white is right attitude that is why they praise and worship women of other races. My own brother hates black women that is why he married a Latina. He stated to me that he wanted his children to have light-skin and long hair. What do you think?


Every man has different taste,and every man has right to choose who he is attracted to. I'm personally attracted to woman from my nationality and woman that resemble them. i don't find white woman attractive, I don't find pitch black dark tall Sudanese woman attractive and I don't find short masculine central African woman attractive and I also don't find oriental woman attractive with maybe the exception of Philipinose, Malays and Indonesians.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm with you Kola...all of these children born to men who feel they don't owe them anything is quite pathetic.

Anunaki, I don't blame you one bit. If my husband said he was moving to Africa, I would move in a heartbeat.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Samater, I know you don't mean any harm. Before, I thought you were a methhead but I see now that you probably haven't realized that calling black/African women "masculine" is a racial stereotype. Black female slaves were described "manlike" by white slave masters as part of their dehumanization of African slaves. I don't mind you finding these women unattractive, but when you use a term like "masculine," it's a throwback to a time where a lot of us AAs find it painful to go -- in other words, it's racially insensitive and it's a way of promoting a stereotype that's been besetting black/African women for 400 years.

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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 12:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BTW, what is your nationality?
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Samater, I know you don't mean any harm. Before, I thought you were a methhead but I see now that you probably haven't realized that calling black/African women "masculine" is a racial stereotype. Black female slaves were described "manlike" by white slave masters as part of their dehumanization of African slaves. I don't mind you finding these women unattractive, but when you use a term like "masculine," it's a throwback to a time where a lot of us AAs find it painful to go -- in other words, it's racially insensitive and it's a way of promoting a stereotype that's been besetting black/African women for 400 years. "


Tony I didn't call all black African woman masculine, but if you feel this way than I apologize. I hope you do the same thing and apologize to Africans who don't fit your and kola boofa stereotypical African.


My nationality is Somali
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 03:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He stated to me that he wanted his children to have light-skin and long hair. What do you think?

Thing is, it's not only your brother who considers light skinned, long-haired children to be more attractive than darker, more African featured children, but so do many, if not most, blacks (in the US), as well as the overwhelming majority of non-blacks. By mating with a (presumbably non negroid) Latina, you brother is ensuring that his children will be more accepted by the non-black majority, as well as considered more attractive by blacks and non-blacks alike.

What do YOU think about THAT?
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 04:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well Barbersurgeon I think that it is sad. That is what I think. Why should AA care how other races see us. My brother you have a slave mentality. You and my brother go around trying to lighten their skin, de-nap their hair, and get surgery to thin their noses. The problem is that we as AA don't consider ourselves beautiful so how on earth are other ppl going to consider us beautiful?

Sameter, that is really sad that a black man like you would consider his own African queens as ugly,inferior, and masculine. I guess your mother must look like Ving Rhames. And your Grandmother like Samuel Jackson. I think you need to stop dehuminizing black ppl in your own mind.

And Nels Shame on You!!!!!! That is the reason why so many black women are struggling to raise their sons on their own. Because of black men like you. You see no allegience to your race, so that can only mean one thing. That you see no allegience to your family. Let me guess you have a white wife(and when I say white I also mean non-black). Brothers like you look in the mirror and dispise what they look like so do you Sameter,and Barbersurgeon. That is why you don't want to reproduce your own images. I'm sorry but when I have a daughter I want her to look like me, not a watered down version.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 04:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let me add one more thing. I am starting to see what Kola Boof is talking about.You black men are so FUCKING WEAK!!! You guys let the white man tell you what is beautiful and human and what isn't. I have an idea. Stop looking at Jessica Simpson, and Britney Spears and look at Sanaa Lathan, Gabrielle Union, and Nia Long then you will see what real women look like. Not these anorexic, bleach blonde, bimbos that white society tries to shove down out throat. BITHCHES!!
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Well Barbersurgeon I think that it is sad.


Indeed.

Why should AA care how other races see us.

I'm not saying that we should, I'm saying that many blacks DO basically because...non-blacks run the world, especially the US.

My brother you have a slave mentality. You and my brother go around trying to lighten their skin, de-nap their hair, and get surgery to thin their noses. The problem is that we as AA don't consider ourselves beautiful so how on earth are other ppl going to consider us beautiful?

LOL, I don't want to have lighter children, I want to marry and have kids with a woman who shares my basic phenotype: same skin tone, hair texture, similar height (at least 5'10" or so, as I'm 6'3"). I want to "give birth to my image," as Kola says.

What I was trying to point out in my last post (and maybe I didnt do a good job of this) is that it's not just "self-hatred" motivating blacks men and women to have lighter children: blacks who have lighter children are, in a sense, REWARDED, through their children, by BLACKS and non-blacks for doing so.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 05:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting, I see your point. Thanks for clarifying that.
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"Sameter, that is really sad that a black man like you would consider his own African queens as ugly,inferior, and masculine. I guess your mother must look like Ving Rhames. And your Grandmother like Samuel Jackson. I think you need to stop dehuminizing black ppl in your own mind."

"I'm personally attracted to woman from my nationality and woman that resemble them."


As you can see from this quote I never considered my African queens to ugly or inferior, matter fact I considered them to be most beautiful and attractive woman I have ever met. Know I apologized for calling Central African woman masculine. I should have realized that not everyman has the same taste, that what seem unattractive to me might seem attractive to someone else.

Most woman are I'm attracted to have some kinds of resemblance to my mom...

"I think you need to stop dehuminizing black ppl in your own mind."

How do I dehumanize black people?

By not finding central African woman, Southern Sudanese woman attractive...If this is the case than I think you should speak to Central African man and Southern Sudanese man who marry or seek white woman when they come to Europe and North America. If they can't find their woman attractive than how could you expect me to find their woman attractive. I remember when I told a friend of mine from Sudan that I grow up in Sweden and the first thing the brother asked me was how where the white girls and when I told him that I wasn't attracted to the white girls the brother was shocked.

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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 05:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That is because he was suffering from the same issues of self-hatred that so many AA have. He was probably "mentally enslaved" to the same western ideas of beauty that you and I were subject too. It is not that he considers is own women unattractive. It is that he has developed the white man's standard of beauty. And he like so many other black men were not strong enough to come up with there own standards of beauty.
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 05:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the white men are getting pretty sick of black men dating and marrying white women... they are planning to do something about it so black man watch your back... that white man that is smiling in your face is plotting ways to get rid of your ass... times arent changing that much... white men dont want no half breeds in their family... they want their blood pure and you are a fool to think they are cool with it...
this one white guy was talking about how an interracial couple moved next door to him and he was asking other radicals how he could get them out of his neighborhood... you should have seen the things they were plotting... but if white ass means that much to blakc men let them go on...
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 06:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello, Diamondeyz!! Preach on sista.
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its sad @ serena... of all the white supremecists websites ive visited this is all they talk about... they plot ways to get rid of black men because they are afraid that their numbers are dwindling... they are real serious about their white skin and they dont want their kids tainted with black blood... white women are doing it out of rebellion because their men are not paying attention to them... trust me if it all comes down to it white women prefer their own men... and pretty soon black men are gonna see that... im hearing white men talk about how they wont allow their daughters to bring their own grandkids around because they are half black... they dont feel comfortable in their own communitites when their daughter has a black boyfriend... I mean they are purchasing guns "just in case"...
white men will not touch a white women who has been with a black man... to them they are tainted traitors... and if a white woman has a child with a black man she might as well just consider herself black because there is no white man on earth besides brad pitt that will take on a white woman who has a black kid... they are too worried about what their other white counterparts will think...
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I agree with you Diamondeyz. Do you visit Stormfront.org? That is a pretty interesting website. It is the largest Neo-nazi website on the internet. Interestly enough though I saw one of there blogs and they were talking about what non-white female celebrities they would like "to bang" and you should have heard how many black female actresses names came up.

These ppl are really creepy. But they represent Amerikkka's feelings about black ppl.Also Fuck Brad Pitt and all of those psuedo-liberal,white douchbags. Yeah I really believe that Brad Pitt loves black ppl. Rolleyes He is just doing this shit for publicity. Listen Honey I live here in L.A(15 minutes away from Hollywood) and I see this phony shit all of the time. It's nothing new.

These little non-white children are just pets for Bradagelina to parade around in front of the nedia.
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Regardless of color, MOST men who are absentee fathers are so because SOME women do not set high, relational standards and settle for playing house--giving away ALL their goods for nothing....cooking, cleaning, having sex, giving affection, and sharing money! Bullshyt on that! If women are to "create a new son" (as Kola always states), they must first create a new daughter. Women will never beat men at their own game. Never!
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Men are the life-breath of a culture. It is not in a woman nature to take the lead. We are the men. God created us first. We should be the ones protecting our communities not Black Women! It is not your responsibility. Black men can only raise strong black men.
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hey... im in L.A. too...
and yep I visit storm front everyday... I cannot stand the way they talk about my people... I havent seen the post about the female celebrities yet but I know one things for sure, they do not like black women and they do not want black men dating their women... but whatever, black men are going to do it anyway...
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white men will not touch a white women who has been with a black man... to them they are tainted traitors... and if a white woman has a child with a black man she might as well just consider herself black because there is no white man on earth besides brad pitt that will take on a white woman who has a black kid...

That is so true, Diamondeyz, and to go even further, white men will even turn on BLACK women who've been with black men. When I was coming up I was cool with a lot of the white guys in my neighborhood. At first I didn't see them as racist.. not the ones I was cool with (except one guy who was clearly a skinhead, but I wrote him off as a radical and was actually still cool with him). Anyway, once I started seeing black men and they found out about it, their attitudes changed completely. Not all of them, but most. They'd never say anything racist or was direct about it, but they'd bring it up all the time and treat me like *I* was a traitor. A lot of the ones who were interested in me before, were no longer interested.. like I was tainted (which didn't bother me because I saw it as being racist). Ironically, though, the skinhead was one of the few who was still interested.. go figure.

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Serenasailor:
Men are the breath-life of a culture.


MOONSIGNS:
Yes, and women are the carriers of that "life"--one cannot survive without the other.


Serenasailor:
It is not in a woman nature to take the lead.


MOONSIGNS:
In what respect--spiritually, physically, intellecutally? Elaborate, please.


Serenasailor:
We are the men. God created us first.


MOONSIGNS:
Yes, and with that comes the tremendous repsonsiblity to practice self-control, self-discipline and self-sacrafice.


Serenasailor:
We should be the ones protecting our communities not Black women.


MOONSIGNS:
Bravo!


Serenasailor:
Black men can only raise strong Black men.


MOONSIGNS:
Not true. A male and female have different qualities and energies that a child benefits from. The healthy friendship and love affair between TWO parents in a COMMITTED relationship is what creates a strong offspring, regardless of gender. Again, one cannot survive without the other.




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It actually quite funny Diamoneyez. The white supremacist movement is not about keeping white ppl pure. It is about maintaining white domination over the other races. Black men with white women angers white ppl(white men in particular)because it underminds white male supremacy. They don't really see black women as a threat. Only black men!! They don't like black women because black women produce black men. I read them talk about black ppl all of the time.

White ppl are fearful of black ppl. Because they know that physically & mentally we are superior to them. So they have spent the last 400 years telling us that we were inferior. Its like the bully who beats up on all the smart kids in the playground. Many of those white ppl are actually in awe of black ppl. They wonder how after all of these years with slavery, segregation,genocide, A.I.D.S/H.I.V, etc, we as black ppl are still thriving(as far as population is concerned).

White ppl hate us because they fear us. They fear that if they breed with us that will be the end of their race. We as black ppl don't really have to be concerned with that because if you mix black with any other race the offspring will always come out with noticible African features.

I read this one article by the Klan and they were talking about killing off all of the black men and breeding with black women say they could produce "white looking" offspring. Thats really creepy! But then again that is just another day and the life of the Black man in Amerikkka.
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Serenasailor --

"It's actually quite funny Diamoneyez. The white supremacist movement is not about keeping white ppl pure. It is about maintaining white domination over the other races."

Good assessment. It's not often that people see through the "white supremacist" issue.
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Duh!! the only way to maintain white domination is by keeping white ppl white/"pure".... It's done by highlighting a system of hierarchies then reinforcing and propagating it through the media. Ironically, we (AAs) are the biggest contributors to keeping white people white/pure; because we watch the most tv (brainwashed) and promote most of their whiteness.
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...And we're now getting people from the mixed/buffer races - Nels! - who are trying to get us to buy further into the propaganda. But don't let 'em fool you -- "the white man" has brainwashed you enough....
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 02:33 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ironically, we (AAs) are the biggest contributors to keeping white people white/pure

Whites wanting to keep themselves pure is not a bad thing, is it? After all, isnt that what we want for ourselves? I personally dont feel its any of my business who they choose to breed with.
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 07:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

("Whites wanting to keep themselves pure is not a bad thing, is it?")

No it's not; in fact, I agree with them completely.. but when pure/white equals supremacy - as in white supremacy - one wonders, why are WE (black people) helping THEM promote whiteness...? Why are we one of the primary contributors to them staying pure/white/supreme...?

("...isnt that what we want for ourselves?")

IT SOULD BE. But if it was, we'd be promoting blackness instead of whiteness and getting blacker/purer by the day, now wouldn't we?

The black man claims he wants salvation, cries salvation, dreams salvation. But he can't seem to stop falling for the oldest NO-BRAINER in the book -- he CHOOSES constantly to think with the wrong head....

The black man wants to be a nigger -- it's a turn on for his weak, cheap, high-on-the-hog imagination....

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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 08:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

("I personally dont feel its any of my business who they choose to breed with.")

Neither do I. If anything, I give them much credit for promoting whiteness. But when black men CHOOSE to breed white, thus promoting whiteness ie "good hair," light skin.. again, why...?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 06:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now, Tonya you make better points than I do!
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:42 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya --

"...And we're now getting people from the mixed/buffer races - Nels! - who are trying to get us to buy further into the propaganda. But don't let 'em fool you -- "the white man" has brainwashed you enough...."

Assimilation or Ignorance. Take your pick.

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