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Kola_boof
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GHANA urges slave descendents to come home
Africa News
Ghana urges slave descendants to come home
Dec 27, 2005, 23:02 GMT
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CAPE COAST, Ghana (UPI) -- The sub-Saharan African nation of Ghana, from where millions left forever in slavery, is urging descendants to return.
For centuries, Africans walked through the infamous 'door of no return' at Cape Coast castle directly into slave ships bound for the United States, Latin America and the Caribbean, never to return.
Ghana has a new sign on that massive fort: 'the door of return.' Taking Israel as its model, Ghana hopes to persuade the descendants of enslaved Africans to think of Africa as their homeland, a place to return to.
'We want Africans everywhere, no matter where they live or how they got there, to see Ghana as their gateway home,' J. Otanka Obetsebi-Lamptey, the tourism minister, told The New York Times.
Though still a very poor, struggling country, Ghana is doing well by West African standards. It has steady economic growth, a stable, democratic government and broad support from the West.
Copyright 2005 by United Press International
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 1033
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 04:30 pm: |
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Tomorrow in the KOOL ROOM, I'm going to have a report about TODAY'S BLACK EGYPTIANS where I will post a few "permission" photos of my own relatives in Upper Egypt (South Egypt is called "Upper Egypt").
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Renata
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Post Number: 341
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A friend of mine lived in Ghana for over a year, and ended up marrying a guy there. She LOVED it. She and her husband moved back here only because her mother begged her to. She was only 23 at the time, so she listened to her mother. She and her husband can't wait to move back. She lived in a small village when she was there.
I want so badly to go there myself. But my husband doesn't want to move anywhere right now, not even out of STATE. |
Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 05:08 pm: |
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Maya Angelou went for a two week vacation in GHANA
--she stayed 8 years. Taught at the UNIVERSITY OF ACCRA.
She writes so beautifully about it.
"MOST" of Africa is a wonderful place. But the media has a vested interest in keeping Africans and Black Americans from coming together as what they are----family.
That's why I tell AAs. Don't get too mixed.
Stay black (or in close proximity, meaning yellow with nappy hair).
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 1036
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Maya Angelou lived in EGYPT for 4 years. Her husband was a South African at the time and moved her there.
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Serenasailor
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I think we as black people need to move away from the hub of poverty and racism which is called America. Democray is a sham! I think we as American blacks should go back to our homeland. |
Renata
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Post Number: 343
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I meant to say this earlier, Serenasailor, but I like you. You're very blunt, and not at all diplomatic. That's a good thing sometimes. |
Zuriburi
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Wow! That post gave me a warm feeling inside.
I have never seen a request from any African nation calling for African decendents of slaves to 'come home'.
It makes me feel wanted. I'm gonna cry.
Thanks for this post Kola. |
Kola_boof
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KENYA, although it's East Africa, did the same thing about 20 years ago.
There is a colony of about 5,000 Black Americans who live in KENYA and were given FREE HOMES, a stipend of $15,000 in cash (which is like a million in Kenya), cars......just for coming to KENYA and helping to "educate and train" the people.
These Black Americans are teachers, doctors, etc.
I still say that Black Americans are MOST LOVED in Senegal. You should go there, before Ghana IMO.
Senegal is the BOMB!!!
The only thing is that the Ghanians speak English.
The Senegalese speak French. But language doesn't matter. The Senegalese LOOOOVE Black Americans.
Nigerians LOOOOOVE Jamaicans.
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Cynique
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I'm so sorry that all you people who want to relocate in Africa can't do it, especially that "what-black-folks-need-to-do" expert(?) serensailor. If I had the money to charter a boat, I'd load all of you on it and tell the captain "full speed ahead!" And I would keep the boat docked in the port where I would have you all dumped off, cuz once you got there you'd all find some silly little lame excuses to come back here. Maya didn't stay there. And Kola doesn't want to go back. Puleeze. |
Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 07:25 pm: |
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If I had the money to charter a boat, I'd load all of you on it and tell the captain "full speed ahead!"
Laughing my fucking ass offff!!!!
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OK, calm down. Stop laughing.
Kola to Cynique: Kin I ride back 'choo?
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Renata
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Post Number: 350
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Maya didn't stay there, but I still respect her for going. She stayed there for as long as she did, versus other blacks who are trying harder to move to white neighborhoods.
So on the one hand, you have a woman married to an Africa, willing to live in Africa...versus...those who don't even want "African" in their description of themselves.
Furthermore, Maya was born and raised in the US, it only makes sense that she may be more comfortable here.
But, FUNNY THING, people (including BLACK people) go to Asia and Europe all the time AND COME BACK, but that doesn't mean something's wrong with Asia and Europe.
But if someone comes from Africa, after EIGHT years, something's wrong with Africa.
It couldn't have been too bad if she stayed there for eight years. I've stayed at places in the US for DAYS, and couldn't wait to get the hell out of there. |
Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 07:31 pm: |
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No Renata,
Maya LOVED it and still loves it. She's written many books about it.
She came home to America, because...this is her home.
I am only suggesting people VISIT there--not try to live there.
It's best to visit, form ties, and come back home.
Then make it a tradition to visit.
But I do admit that if I wasn't so hated in the Muslim world, I would go back to Africa.
Problem is, it would be SOOOO easy to kill me if I returned there for very long. That's why I won't go.
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Babygirl
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Post Number: 166
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:24 am: |
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Serenasailor: I think we as American blacks should go back to our homeland.
Babygirl: Uh duh, we as AMERICAN blacks ARE home. Born and raised, and a few generations of us at that. |
Anunaki3600
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I lived in the U.S. for most of my life. I moved to Lost Angels (L.A) as a teenager and am back in Africa and am glad that I made this move back. It was hard at first but am lovin' it now. I just did not want to be a Nigger in Amerikkka any more. Even though I am highly skilled and was paid well, I was just a Ni**er in the US. Africa is wonderfull once you get used to it. Once you taste Black (Africa) YOU will never go back. Hee hee hee. |
Roxie
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Wow! 'scuse me while I pack my bags! |
Blkamericanking
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I could be wrong, but it seems that African governments only want educated blacks to come home and if that's the case I don't think it's fair. There are hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of blacks who would love to go back to Africa, whether they be educated or not. Africans must understand that there are blacks in the diaspora who simply want to move back to Africa and live in peace under a decent African government.
I feel that somewhere in West Africa, blacks from the diaspora who seriously want to go back to Africa, should be given a large piece of land, something about the size of Liberia which I don't think is much to ask for, considering Africa is the world's 2nd largest continent.
Cynique,
Pack your bags, I'm taking you to Africa with me. LMAO |
Chrishayden
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You know, all my life I have heard about how primitive Africa is. How we should be grateful to whitefolks for snatching us from the jungle and teaching us Shakespeare.
Yesterday I heard a radio report on Nigeria. Seems that they are thinking of granting amnesty to certain portions of their prison population.
They stated they have 40,000 people in prison. This is out of a population of 90 million.
Over here we are maybe 30 million. And have a million blacks in the prison system alone.
Somebody has been lying to me. |
Renata
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Well, Blkamericanking, Africa is a large continent, but it would be difficult to get any one particular country's government to give that much land. Nigeria would say Ghana should give us the land, Ghana will say no and say maybe Cameroon should give it to us, Cameroon will think we're trying to take over, and make all of us move to Nairobi, etc., etc. Perhaps it would be best to instead find which country better suits you and move to that particular one. |
Serenasailor
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Thank you Renata for your complement. Anuki3600 you are so right. There are some blacks who like living her in Amerikkka. Apparently they like being enslaved, lynched, tortured, and murdered. They believe what the white man tells them that if they work hard enough they can attain the Amerikkkan dream."Rolleyes". These are the blacks like Bill Cosby who publicly denounce lower-class blacks for making them look bad in front of their white masters. These are the black people who work their fingers to the bone just so they can move into white neighborhoods. But they fail to realize what Denzel Washington said in Glory." No matter how hard you work, you can march, dance, and learn all of the white man's songs you will not be anything to the white man but an ugly ass chimp!! I tell all of you black people if our Motherland is offering you an invitation back Puleeze go back. Flee from Racism, Poverty, and Ethnic Hate. |
Nels
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Pathetic. |
Kola_boof
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You sholl in the fuck is.
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Yukio
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hmmm...I will go to Africa, as Kola says...to visit, to establish ties. I love black people...African American, African, West Indians, South American, etc... With that said, I am an African American with such sensibilities. I say this to make the point that there are legitimate cultural differences, which need to be ironed out, understood, and learned amongst all of us black people...this engagement with Africans then, will be a process, so I think people here, on this thread that is, are a bit too romantic, a bit too naive, a bit too...ill informed. Everyone will not be welcomed with open arms...many of us have our own prejudices that show our USness as well as our self-centeredness and a provincialism more so than our Africanness. In addition, there will be people there to exploit some of us because of our romanticism, ignorance, and guilibility...this too must be understood! In this case, we need to see ourselves as people first...
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Tonya
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When you're a nigger all your life, you get used to it. Some Black Americans feel they're living the life after marchin', dancin', and learning all of the white man's songs; shit, they gotta house, car, live in a nice neighborhood; they livin' large.. livin' the life! So what, they gotta give up they self respect; they niggaz -- they don't need no self respect noway.
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Kola_boof
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Yukio is 100% right and said exactly what was on my mind.
You won't have the comforts in Africa that you have in America. You won't see your favorite t.v. shows (bring DVD) or read your favorite magazines and newspapers anymore.
Some large cities don't even have sewage systems. You have to get used to the smell.
To the "American eye"--there is INTENSE POVERTY all around and many don't like walking through and being exposed to it.
Almost NONE of your food is there.
For instance...you have to pay someone 3 cents to pluck your chicken.
Milk often comes fresh from the Cow or the GOAT.
Some Africans sell a delicious bar-b-q Monkey on the street, some sell dog and lizard---so you would have to be careful.
The first 6 months would be riddled with the problem of adjusting and understanding each other culturally. West Africans, however, are VERY USED to "American culture" by now and are very understanding.
For black men, there are very very few light skinned women to date. And there are almost NO non-black women whatsoever--except scientists and scavengers.
There are whole beaches in West Africa where European and Arab men come for the sole purpose of pursuing and fucking African women.
The government of Senegal, for instance, provides a resort beach where only WHITE MEN are allowed to party...as the government provides STATE PROSTITUTES along that strip.
The Up Side:
Just like Maya Angelou went for a 2 week vacation and didn't return until 8 years later....this happens with many Black American visitors.
The cost of living is extremely LOW. On just $2,000 a year...you can live like a TYCOON in Africa.
A big fat lobster costs about 50 cents.
The Seafood is OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!...so cheap and delicious.
African children and teens need 25 cents a week to attend elementary, middle school or high school.....and so the cost of "good help" (say 2 house boys and 2 maids) is about $1 a week.
Maya employed a sweet little boy of about 8 to be her "personal assistant".....after she hired him, his entire family marched many miles from the boy's village to Maya's house and bought a month's supply of food and gifts as a thank you for giving their child a chance to be educated.
You can get your hair braided by African women with magical fingers for only $1.
Or get a full hair weave for $3.
Also...Black American women LOVE Africa, because they are PRIZED in that society---for being American and for being "lighter". So many of them go there to be emersed in men who want them.
Black American men (because they have money) suddenly find themselves in a setting where they can have as many beautiful exotic black women as they want...and many African girls of 16, 17 and 18 compete for the "house space" in a man with money home. Thing is...with just $50....you can afford to take care 4 or 5 women easily; and because they are African....they are very submissive and don't complain about sharing.
The best part....is that there's NOTHING....absolutely nothing like living in an ALL black nation in West Africa.
The Judge is black, the police, the doctors and Nurses...the President...the Congress...the airline pilots
...you are now the DOMINANT CULTURE
You suddenly are FREE of tension and life is much, much less stressful and you find yourself unusually relaxed.
There are 3 places to live:
The big cities
The rural outback
The jungle
Or, with a good houseboy guide, you can live all three places whenever you want.
I personally prefer Rural and River Africans...to City Dwellers. The Rural people are your TRUE ancestors in their original state----and you can't help falling in love with them. They're SO FUN.
But you have to get used to them being naked and all kinds of wild stuff. But they're FUN.
The land is unbelievably beautiful and it can be very spiritual.
As I said...only because I have burned so many political bridges with my art (and because of the horrendous SEXISM in Africa) do I remain in the United States.
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Nels
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Serenasailor --
"I think we as black people need to move away from the hub of poverty and racism which is called America."
Don't forget to leave the keys with the gardener when you leave. |
Rustang
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Ok then.This little conversation encapsules one of our biggest problems as a people.Tonya, you don't get to cry about racism and poverty while, at the same time, you hold employment, property ownership and education in low esteem.Belly-aching about 'can't get a job'would sound a lot better if you weren't ridiculing the people that have one.It is not at all difficult to earn a decent living and retain your self respect.
Renata says"Serenasailor, I like you.You're very blunt and not at all diplomatic"You forgot to add 'Retarded'to that list of qualities.I would be far more willing to listen to him say that we should all move to Africa if he actually believed that himself.He says that he does.I say no, he doesn't.If he did he would be sitting in front of a keyboard somewhere in Africa, not Compton.He seems to be overlooking the fact that, even if we all do go to Africa, eventually we are still going to have to figure out a way to deal with white folks.We can't just run and hide.They came and brought us over here once, why would they not do it again? Given their propensity towards conquest and occupation in order to control an area's resources, how long would it be before we were right back in the same boat, figuratively and literally.We have to work something out from here, not there. |
Tonya
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Rustang:
It is not at all difficult to earn a decent living and retain your self respect.
Tonya:
Exactly. And you can be highly educated and retain your self respect, too, no doubt. No arguments here.
Rustang:
...you hold employment, property ownership and education in low esteem.
Tonya:
Reread my post, Rustang. I hold tap-dancin' niggaz at low esteem. There's a big difference, Rustang -- a big difference! -- I don't mean to hurt nobody's feelings, but there is.
Tonya
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Serenasailor
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First, off Rustang I agree with you 110%. Except for the insults. However, you must remember the White Man does not want us here anymore. In fact, I am sure he is praying for all of us to go back to Africa. I also believe that if we were in our homeland we would have a sense of culture, something that Black Americans do not have. If we have a sense of culture we can fight against anything white and non-white. |
Kola_boof
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My BAD:
A West African friend alerted me that there are now supermarket chains in Ghana and Senegal...Nigeria always had them. So I was wrong up above where I said you can't get your American food and have to pay to get chickens plucked and gutted.
You CAN buy most of your regular groceries in West Africa now.
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Nels
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 11:51 pm: |
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Rust --
"They came and brought us over here once"
The "us" doesn't fly here, or does it?. Ask ten randomly selected "black" Americans (regardless of their phenotype and background) how significant that statement is in today's blended (but bent) cultural society, and you'll probably hear something you won't really like from virtually all of them. Until someone really figures out what "us" means, there will be no peace within the Black American (not African-American) constituency. |
Rustang
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To Nels:What I mean by 'us' is simply black americans in the most general sense possible.There was a time, as everyone here knows, when blacks were being hauled over here to be sold as slaves.White people haven't forgotten how to do that.If all people of african descent packed up and went back to africa tommorrow,I don't think that the white folks would just let us occupy the most heavily resource laden continent on the planet without a hell of a fight.Over half of the gold mined in the history of the world came out of South Africa.Diamonds, titanium, oil? Africa is loaded to the gills with all of that.That, in conjuction with the need for free labor from the prisons and nearly free menial labor would negate any possibility of them allowing a back to Africa movement from happening.So, by 'us' I mean any possible candidate for 'Back to Africa'.I agree with what you say about my opinion of what these ten people would say about the significance of 'us' in a multi-cultural, fragmented and distinctly antagonistic society such as this one.I wouldn't and don't like it, but I have come to accept it as the world that is, not the one I dream of.
To Tonya: I apologise for mis-interpreting your post.
To Serenasailor:You are mistaken.The whites do want us here and would fight tooth and claw to keep us here.We have to win the fight here, not pass the fight on to our great grandchildren.My views on black unity are no secret here.I feel that it is of paramount importance that we organize, unify and start taking the reins of our own destiny.Our position is stronger now than it has ever been in modern times.You strike me as a younger fellow that has confused rage and hostility with passion and conviction.That will not serve you well.The 'retarded' thing was a little over the top and for that I do apologize.The statements you have made do not appear to have been very carefully thought out or you would not be advocating running away like frightened children when it is quite obvious that the fight would follow us all the way around the world.We cannot run fast enough or far enough to avoid the fight and live in peace on our own land, we must first win here then we can go where you choose.They would prefer a fight of main force determined by strength of arms because we can't possibly win that sort of conflict.We must force it into the realm of intellect and reason because there we have a shot.Don't allow your anger to cause you to fight in their chosen arena.Mental discipline, intellect and the knowledge that right is on our side as long as we don't become a reflection of our enemy are what we must utilize, not as weapons, but as tools. |
Nels
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Post Number: 208
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 01:34 am: |
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Serenasailor --
Hypocrites are usually two-faced abandonment-driven neophytes. You can't bail without a sail, and you can't sail without the winds of wisdom at your back. It's highly unlikely that the continentals will ever let you get past the International Date Line. Yes, Marcus Garvey thought he had a good idea too, but termites drunk on Caribbean Rum riddled his vessels with stupidity instead of common sense. |
Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 01:49 am: |
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Don't you put down Marcus Garvey!
Don't you dare!
You're not even fit to be a foam bubble in that man's piss.
It doesn't matter what happened, that man gave his life trying to help his people!
Don't you dare badmouth him!
That was a MAN.
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