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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lord I cant belive I'm starting a thread all by myself. LOL. I am now loving Jennifer Hudson in this very entertaining movie. Thoughts?
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 04:48 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beyonce's acting has improved slightly from her previous work. Although, her portrayal of Deena was rather easy, because she is just like the character: boring, harmless and one dimensional. The directors/producers did an excellent job casting her in this role.
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It was somewhat ruined by Beyonce. Apart from that it was surprisingly good. Beyonce's one of those stars whose presence can make you automatically assume that a movie will be, at best, cheesy and trashy.
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I thought Beyonce was excellent in the movie. There wasnt a lot for her to do because the story is really all about Effie and Curtis. I felt chills when Eddie Murphy was on screen especially how he ended because it was so eerie with James Brown just now dying and Eddie was basically playing James Brown and Marvin Gaye. It was so GOOD! Anika Noni Rose was cute and funny but she looks like a little mouse she had a good part. Jennifer Hudson blew me away with her song.

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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 07:45 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I took my wife and kids to see Dreamgirls yesterday. We enjoyed it. However, I and my wife enjoyed Eddie Murphy's and Jamie Fox's characters most. Part of it was do to acting and part of it was they, more than perhaps anyone else in the film, portrayed how the music biz REALLY works. When Murphy and Fox weren't in a particular scene, I started to get kinda bored.

Hudson was good. But I wasn't a blown away by her performance as others appear to be. She kinda came off as the stereotypical bossy, bigboned Black woman to me. I think she greatly benefited from the listlessness of Beyonce.

And from the middle towards the end of the film, I thought the movie was a spoof or lampoon of Beyonce and I'm SHOCKED Poppa Knowles and the rest of her handlers allowed her to do the movie.

Honestly, my wife and I kinda felt sorry for Beyonce.
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That movie was great. That was the first time in my life I ever went to see a movie twice, and paid both times. I'm even thinking about seeing it again. Beyonce did a great job. I think without her, the group performances would have been a little blah. She had that whole Diana "I love you" thing going on. Her part was smaller than I thought though. It seemed like she had the least lines out of everyone, but still it was a golden globe performance. An Oscar I'm not sure about... Now, Jennifer Hudson did blow me away... It could've been because I was high when I saw it... Lol.... but in her first scene, she makes her presence known, and I believed her.... When she sang that song, it brought down the roof. Everyone was clapping, I even got a lil teary eyed... It couldve been the weed though... Lol... The whole cast was great.... direction was beautiful, it was almost like being on broadway. Most of the scenes happen on a stage, but you won't even realize it until the movie is over. All I can say is BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!!

I heard that Beyonce had some of Jennifer Hudson's scenes cut, so she could come off as the star of the movie. Who really knows.... I do know that Jamie and Jennifer filmed a love scene, but I didn't see it in the movie.... O well.... The movie is still great....
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Edenson, no you didn't say Bey's performance was golden globe worthy. She played herself for one and it's the same role she's ever played (a girlfriend, entertainer, singer, girlfriend, entertainer, singer...) - not a real stretch at all. Funny how she says she was born to play that role. I saw it after I was told it wasn't all about Beyonce. Her performance was nonexistent. She was more of a stage prop. That was a fill in the blank role, anyone could have played Deena. Wasn't it funny though when Jamie told Deena that her voice has no personality? If that don't describe Beyonce

How can he mama get mad that Jhud stole the show? Do Beyonce even read or comprehend?? I mean, if she could at least put 2 and 2 together, she would have known that her part wasn't the star role in the movie. She probably thought she'd steal the show cause she was playing the Diva. In Vanity Fair they said she HAD to have her own hair, wardrobe and makeup people. Ya'll know how long it take a movie to rap. All that damn money she spent to be a very pretty stage prop. Aha -ha-ha!!!!

It's mighty funny how art immitates life. Has anyone noticed how they are NOT playing Jhud's song AIATY but they're spinning the hell out of Beyonce's??? That's damn near the same thing that happened in the movie. I remember hearing Holliday's song on the radio when I was growing up so it seems kind of suspect that they aren't playing the main song from that movie.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 01:13 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm youre kidding! Beyonce was supposed to be Diana Ross and the script made Diana look like a sweet little naive person who saved the day at the end of the movie and Curtis was the bastardy villain. I dont see how anybody could feel sorry for Beyonce. They changed the damn play around so that she could come to Effie's rescue at the end. HA! In real life Effie died on welfare and Diana Ross became the biggest black star of her time and according to Gladys Knight and Patti LaBelle a seriously TREACHEROUS beyotch. Beyonce got off as a hero!

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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You know Enchanted, I was thinking the same thing. Diana is the most self centered of all the Diva's. An evil bitch really. And Beyonce said she met her in an interview and she was "sooooo nice". I'm like, what a damn dummy. Diana Ross is not known to be a nice person. And if Beyonce didn't have a name, Diana Ross wouldnt look twice at her ass. She's cut throat and don't care about stepping on nobody.

Truth be told, she probably feels that her old ass shoulda played Deena in the movie.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I liked the movie too. B did fine as did the rest of the cast. I would love for Danny Glover to get some props, too. The Knowles must be thrilled that Beyonce got a GG nomination. Maybe DREAMGIRLS will be best picture, too. I wonder if Patti and Gladys are jealous because Diana Ross was always more popular than they?

Jennifer Hudson was not the sterotypical full figured diva. She was multi-dimensional-not a joke or victim as big women are are portrayed in the movies.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 03:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wonder if Patti and Gladys are jealous because Diana Ross was always more popular than they?

MAD is probably more like it, since Dianna Ross isn't fit to shine either one of these ladies shoes.

How would you feel if you were the best worker on your JOB but you never got the credit because of some bullshit like this? And instead of sympathizing with you... everybody was going around saying you're fucking "jealous"??

Most of us would wanna KILL a nigga if that kept happening to us at our JOB...

...don't front.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 03:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dianna was no slouch Tonya she had far better material than they did and she was glamorous and more interesting than Patty and Gladys. I dont recall anyone being able to sound like Ross either except Michael Jackson so she had a sound that set her apart. I never disliked Dianna singing or the fact that she had star quality but I didnt like that she was so conniving then again she made it clear from day one she would do anything to make it to the top. I guess a male quality.


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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 03:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

MIDNIGHT TRAIN TO GEORGIA

...nuff said
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh please. Patti's great and Gladys is alright, but neither one of these ladies has anything on Miss Diana Ross.

Mahogany. Lady Sings the Blues. Plus she has a much greater body of musical work than either Patti or Gladys.

They've all had their share of problems, but while Gladys is trying to overcome her gambling addiction and Patti's pimping clothes at QVC - Miss Diana is lounging around eating bonbons.

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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"They've all had their share of problems, but while Gladys is trying to overcome her gambling addiction and Patti's pimping clothes at QVC - Miss Diana is lounging around eating bonbons."

Seriously. Have you seen a picture of Miss Dianna lately??


I'm not trying to be funny at all, okay, but I'd rather be addicted to battery acid and pimping heron for a living cuz not even battery acid and heron could have me end up looking like THAT.


PATTI looks DAMN GOOD for her age.

Dianna looks like The Tales from The crypt keeper, seriously: SHE LOOKS JUST LIKE THE CRYPT KEEPER......Skeleton and all, no lie......I mean all joking aside.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...and staying drunk and belligerent. You forgot about that, Mzuri. I know Paul Mooney sho the hell didn't, lol! Nothing against Ms. Ross but um...her vocal range is nothing compared to Patti (even though her voice irritates the hell out of me) but her music is/was better.
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...we pronounce "heroin" "heron" where I'm from, my bad.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Crypt Keeper?!

LOLOL! Patti looks good because of all the work her ugly azz has got done.

Her nose was spread across her face like a damn blanket but she got that fixed. SHe wears so much base on her face that I am sure she's spackling that shit on with a putty knife. She basically looks like an average black woman that always rocks gaudy attire and too much makeup.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well Kola Boof looks like Tales from the Crypt Keeper too and shes not even old. Who cares what Dianna Ross look like she was one of the best in the biz and people need to give her her props. Others had bigger voices but Dianna had star quality more than any of them did. Her competiton wasn't Gladys and Patti it was Dionne Warwick and Barbra Streisand. Dianna was bigger with whites than blacks.





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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 05:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is a recent pic of Miss Diana. The woman is in her sixties and she still looks good. She's not even wearing any makeup here, and she may or may not have had plastic surgery. I don't know. But she's got it going on!




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Anytime a woman is smart, successful, attractive and ambitious and if she doesn't say "please" and "thank you" and act humble she is called a bitch. When men display those same qualities, they are called, "real go-getters" "leaders" and "admirable". What successful person hasn't stepped on a few toes to get to the top?

Ms. Ross looks wonderful. She's a legend. And let's not forget early in her career she was quite a civil rights activist.
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 06:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Patty looks good...so does that macaroni and cheese. LOL.

BTW, Patty has diabetes.
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Yeah, she does look good. How old is Patti? In her sixties too right?

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Patty's birthday, May 24, 1944 which makes her 62.
A few years ago there was a rumor she was messing with Keith Sweat.
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Diana has that Beer Fat Face thing going on..
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LOL. Do you have any pix of Patti sans makeup???
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LOL. Do you have any pix of Patti sans makeup???


Don't be crazy. Such pics would be way way too scary to look at.
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"Do you have any pix of Patti sans makeup???"

Does make-up lift sagging skin??

I know it doesn't do anything
for rotten wooden teeth and
carrying yourself like a drunk
and a bag-lady.... Those are
SOME of Ross' problems.
Make-up wouldn't help!
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Btw, you gotta pix of
Ross with her mouth open?

LOL

Don't post it! I'm
just asyin, take a
look at it. That's
what makes her look
like The Crypt Keeper!
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ewww. Are Miss Ross's teeth rotting? Gotta pic?
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all i know is that when abc did a show about diana ross on 20/20 or some other night time show.

her children sang a song for her, and they all (her children and her) were in tears.

this was VERY touching.

i was moved.
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So she has bad teeth, not everyone's perfect. At least she hasn't had a ton of face lifts and nose jobs and who knows what else. For Miss Ross to be seen walking down the street without makeup speaks VOLUMES!!! And it's something that neither Patti nor Gladys could ever do. Ross isn't the phoney diva some people are making her out to be.
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Just because you DO walk
around without make-up
does not mean you CAN.
Ross looks ATROCIOUS
without make-up. And
she does not look that
much better WITH IT:

ROSS
PATTI

GLADYS



ALL WITH MAKE-UP
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Diana Ross has a new CD out called "I Love You". Here is the video and she looks incredibly fantastic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxg_ykyB3e0


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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 01:57 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Diana Ross with no makeup reminds me of that ugly ass Kola Boof. Talk about hiddeous women withotu makeup. I remember Tonya telling Kola that she looks fine and dont need plastic surgery but that broad looks like Kryptkeeper's mama so obviously the child's vision is SKEWED. New video by Diana Ross: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxg_ykyB3e0

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Tonya
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 02:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You're right. we can go on and on

about whose make-up artist is better.

But TALENT?? You sure you want to go

there?? You mean you really wanna

bring up TALENT?? (LMAO!)

You done started some shit now, lol.



Patti's tribute to Destiny's

Child. Sistagurl looks and SOUND

good...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hgPZUmYebYE

Patti Gladys and others...Oprah's Celebration

Weekend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLlFsj8sso

A little sumpt'n sumpt'n for us old-heads

taking us back...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6HyuqSiGo

Nahhh. you didn't wanna go there with the TALENT.
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 03:24 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PATTI LABELLE: "SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW" 1996

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQFo2Gn8wnE
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 03:51 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Get a grip Tonya. Nobody said that Patti isn't talented. She just does NOT have anything on Miss Diana. You are attempting to compare apples to oranges.

Miss Diana =

CLASS!!!
STYLE!!!
A SUPERSTAR FROM WAAAAY BACK!!!
GREATER BODY OF WORKS!!!
MORE NUMBER ONE HITS!!!
MORE AWARDS!!!
MORE FAN CLUBS!!!






Patti Labelle =

NO CLASS!!!
TACKY!!!





NARCISSISTIC NARCISSIST!!!





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Why can't we embrace these Way-makers, these Queens for who they are individually?

Do you know the type of shit they had to put up with, each and every one of them?... over the years...and they're still here! It's a testament to our STRENGTH as BLACK women... It is not easy being a female, black, deemed ugly...then to be magnified 100 times over by celebrity... Can you even imagine what that must be like? Those forces are unrelentingly RUTHLESS! The sagging skin you see, the wrinkles, etc... these are battle wounds...

Mzerk, I hate conceited bitches, lawd knows I do, but how long did it take for Patti to finally come to terms with who she is? to be able to embrace her own image? She constantly talks about how she battled (still battling) self-hatred issues...
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 05:12 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know, Mzuri, we ARE tripping.

Toubobie's right; these sisters

don't deserve that.

Listen...

I'll give you CLASS if you give

me TALENT... K?

Good!

Now I can take my ass to bed.

I got so much shit to do before

tonight.

Happy New Years if I don't

speak with you before then. :-)
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay Tonya . . . but how are you gonna start some shit by posting a comment such as this:


MAD is probably more like it, since Dianna Ross isn't fit to shine either one of these ladies shoes.


And then turn around and tell me I'm tripping when I challenge that.

Listen, all of them are wonderful artists and women. They are each talented and they have all lead interesting lives.

And BTW they were all born in 1944.

But out of the three of them - DIANA ROSS is the SUPERSTAR.

When Patti or Gladys do a concert, they will draw a crowd. No doubt about that.

When Diana Ross does a concert in Tokyo, London, Johannesburg, New York City and any place in between - IT IS A MONUMENTAL EVENT THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY WITH THE NECESSARY RESOURCES WILL BE CLAMORING TO ATTEND. IT WILL BE OVERCROWDED WITH PEOPLE IN CHAOTIC MOB SCENES!!!

And I don't have anything against the other two, I'm just telling it the way it is. Keeping it real!



So no, I can't give you anything. Miss Diana is a QUEEN. An EMPRESS



Nice try though. Happy New Years to you as well. I wish you all the best!

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