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Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2514
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 07:19 am: | 
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Some people just don't understand that pillowtalk is private!
Cyberspace Sex Scandal Heads to Trial
By MATT APUZZO
Dec 27, 3:58 AM EST
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- When Robert Steinbuch discovered his girlfriend had discussed intimate details about their sex life in her online diary, the Capitol Hill staffer didn't just get mad. He got a lawyer.
Soon, though, the racy tidbits about the sex lives of the two Senate aides faded from the front pages and the gossip pages. Steinbuch accepted a teaching job in Arkansas, leaving Washington and Jessica Cutler's "Washingtonienne" Web log behind.
While sex scandals turn over quickly in this city, lawsuits do not. Steinbuch's case over the embarrassing, sexually charged blog appears headed for an embarrassing, sexually charged trial.
Lurid testimony about spanking, handcuffs and prostitution aside, the Washingtonienne case could help establish whether people who keep online diaries are obligated to protect the privacy of the people they interact with offline.
Cutler, a former aide to Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, says she created the blog in 2004 to keep a few friends up to date on her social life. Like a digital version of the sex-themed banter from a "Sex and the City" episode, Cutler described the thrill and tribulations of juggling sexual relationships with six men.
One of those men was Steinbuch, a counsel to DeWine on the Judiciary Committee. Cutler called him the "current favorite" and said he resembled George Clooney, liked spanking and disliked condoms.
"He's very upfront about sex," she wrote. "He likes talking dirty and stuff, and he told me that he likes submissive women."
When Ana Marie Cox, then the editor of the popular gossip Web site Wonkette.com, discovered and linked to Cutler's blog, the story spun out of control. Cutler was fired and Steinbuch says he was publicly humiliated. He went to court seeking more than $20 million in damages.
The case is embroiled in thorny pretrial issues, with each side demanding personal information from the other. Steinbuch wants to know how much money Cutler received from the man she called her "sugar daddy." Cutler demanded Steinbuch's student evaluations from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock Law School, where he teaches.
Steinbuch also recently added Cox as a defendant in the case, though he has not served her with court papers. A trial date has not been set, but Matthew Billips, Cutler's attorney, said there are no settlement talks that might head off a trial.
"I have no idea what he wants," Billips said. "He's never said, 'This is what I think should be done.'"
Neither Steinbuch nor his attorney returned phone calls seeking comment. In court, attorney Jonathan Rosen said Steinbuch wants to restore his good name. Students in his legal ethics class all search the Internet and learn about the blog, Rosen said.
"It's not funny and it's damaging," Rosen told a judge. "It's horrible, absolutely horrible."
To win, Steinbuch will have to prove that the details of their sexual relationship were private and publishing them was highly offensive. Billips argues that Cutler never intended to make the blog public but, in the information age, data is easily copied and distributed beyond its intended audience.
If the case goes to trial, its outcome will be important both to bloggers and to people who chronicle their lives on social-networking sites such as MySpace and Facebook. Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said he may teach the Washingtonienne case this spring during his class at Georgetown Law School.
"Anybody who wants to reveal their own private life has a right to do that. It's a different question when you reveal someone else's private life," he said, adding that simply calling something a diary doesn't make it one. "It's not sitting in a nice, leather-bound book under a pillow. It's online where a million people can find it."
Rotenberg asked, what if Cutler had secretly videotaped the encounters and sold the videos without Steinbuch's consent? There has to be a line somewhere, he said.
Since being fired, Cutler moved back to New York, wrote a novel based on the scandal, posed nude for Playboy and started a new Web site, where she solicits donations "for slutty clothes and drugs."
She wouldn't discuss the case but said she's amazed by what has happened.
"The fact that anyone was interested in the first place was a surprise," she said. "The fact that there was a lawsuit in the first place was a surprise. That it's still going on is a surprise."
U.S. District Judge Paul Friedman was surprised, too.
"I don't know why we're here in federal court to begin with," Friedman told attorneys for both sides in April. "I don't know why this guy thought it was smart to file a lawsuit and lay out all of his private, intimate details."
In that sense, the Washingtonienne lawsuit has become a study into when to make a federal case out of something and when to just let it go away. It's a question lawyers wrestle with all the time.
Lanny Davis, the former special counsel to President Clinton who now advises companies during times of crisis, tells clients to decide whether they want justice or simply to set the record straight and get a message across.
"If you're looking for justice, the court system is the only thing you have," Davis said. "If you're looking to get the full story, good and bad, into one coherent narrative, the court system is perhaps the worst possible forum."
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SEX_BLOG_LAWSUIT?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 1361
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:32 am: |
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Interesting story. The woman was obviously an exhibitionist who was driven by the need to make the intimate and personal details of her sex life public. The guy had no idea his sexual tryst with her was being made into a public billboard. She obviously was having fun and fulfilling a need by creating an ongoing diary/blog of her sexual clients and partners. But I have no idea what the guy is thinking. Like the judge said, "I don't know why this guy thought it was smart to file a lawsuit and lay out all of his private, intimate details." Because if he has issues about the confidentiality of his sex life being made public, well, by going to court, he has just jettisoned that concern and any hopes of anything private. It seems like a thorny issue but I can see where making the details of ones sexual behavior public, "without consent", could have possible legal ramifications. This should be a good case.
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Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 305
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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Yikes ! I have a friend who posts entries about her sex life with her baby's daddy ! Not as many details...but it's getting there. I'm going to send her this article ! LOL ! |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2519
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:51 am: |
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This is a bad case of locker room talk being broadcast over the internet. No one has the right to reveal what you (by naming names) did to them sexually without your consent. I'm not talking about sexual criminality, just regular sexual relations. Who wants to find out that somebody went and told everyone in the neighborhood what you did with them in your bedroom last night? Or revealing your shortcomings? It's embarrassing and it can be damaging.
It's possible that the judge doesn't "get" the case since judges don't necessarily know or comprehend everything that's presented to them. The man's identity has already been made public and perhaps he's not interested in protecting his own identity anymore. People file lawsuits for various reasons and it may be his intention to set a precedent. Or it may have been his intent to convey to this particular woman that she should have kept her "mouth" shut.
That's what I think about it 
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Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3179
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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What do it say in the Bible all you 'sposed to be Christians? The things ye shall do in the darkness shall soon come to light?
Steinbuch is a sissy and a punk. You shouldn't do nothing with a woman you wouldn't be shamed of having out in the open anyway--
Screw this messing up his cushy job as a Congressional aide. He probably knew this gal was wild and liked it. If he wanted to be a Congressional Aide he should have stuck to the Missionary Position or got him a subscription to JUGGS magazine and stayed home nights.
Really. Now he has really made a fool of himself, filing suit.
He's going to have to go up in court and admit he did all that kinky shit. He should have just denied it and moved on--or admitted it, got into therapy and got saved like everybody else.
I can hardly wait until Mzuri's old lovers start posting her dirt on the net-- |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 306
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |
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Mzuri:"This is a bad case of locker room talk being broadcast over the internet. No one has the right to reveal what you (by naming names) did to them sexually without your consent. I'm not talking about sexual criminality, just regular sexual relations. Who wants to find out that somebody went and told everyone in the neighborhood what you did with them in your bedroom last night? Or revealing your shortcomings? It's embarrassing and it can be damaging."
So true. Although my friend only uses the first initial of her baby's daddy's name...I sure in the hell know who she's referring to ! LOL ! She just revealed to him that she's pregnant again and wrote the scenario on how she told him after they had sex in the shower! When I do see the two in person, I can't help but think about that shower scene and her Columbian lover !!! And I seriously doubt if he knows about her posts.
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Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2522
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:10 pm: |
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Is that what you do, CH? Have sex in the missionary position and fantasize about having a real sex life by looking at chicks in JUGGS magazine. You're such a loser, living your life as if anyone even gives a shit.
You prolly lost your dick amidst all your whale blubber years ago and can't find it anyway. And if you do know where it is, you can't even touch it because you've always got your hands wrapped around a baconcheeseburger. LOL!!!
And BTW - I have no old lover's, CH. I simply add them to my collection and use them at my leisure.
Cause I got it goin' on like that  |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2523
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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Jackie - Does she use her own identity on her weblog? I don't have a problem with discussing your sex life online if everyone remains anonymous - but when you start talking about what happened in the little pink house at the end of the block at 1313 Mockingbird Lane in Mayberry, then you have crossed the friggen line. LOL!
And I'm gonna post my reindeer gif until the 12th day of Christmas or when someone tells me he's the cutist thing they ever saw.
Whichever comes first  |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 6252
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:33 pm: |
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This sorta kinda illustrates the seductiveness of the cyber world. People put their fingers on a keyboard, stare at a blank screen and suddenly lose their inhibitions, wrecklessly throwing caution to the wind. The anonymity and intimacy of the internet have become an enablers for fantasies and lies and revealed secrets. This woman sounds like she ventured into the virutal reality world of exhibtionism. Poor guy. He wouldn't be the first to like kinky sex. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 6258
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 01:14 pm: |
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Obviously the computer has corrupted my old eyes. I think I'm developing dislexia. So overlook my misspellings and typos and displaced words. LOL. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2526
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 01:29 pm: |
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You are forgiven Ms. Cynique. Your typos do not diminish your infinite wisdom.  |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 10-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 01:31 pm: |
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Fran's a friend of mine. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3183
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 01:40 pm: |
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Mzuri:
To quote the Godfather--
Don't worry 'bout the peelin' fallin' from the cielin'
Just as long as you there when I get the feelin'
UNGH!
You can't get enough
of my funkystuff |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2530
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 01:44 pm: |
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Yucky. Stop grossin me out  |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 308
Registered: 04-2005
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Mzuri: "Jackie - Does she use her own identity on her weblog? I don't have a problem with discussing your sex life online if everyone remains anonymous - but when you start talking about what happened in the little pink house at the end of the block at 1313 Mockingbird Lane in Mayberry, then you have crossed the friggen line. LOL!"
Well she's a popular digital artist/aspiring film maker in the Los Angeles area. Many people know her.
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Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2531
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 01:48 pm: |
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Is she using her real name? Or an alias.  |
Jackie
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Post Number: 309
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An alias but the website in full of pics of her, her baby's daddy, and their son. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2533
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 02:01 pm: |
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Anyone who posts pix of themselves in a blog that's discussing their private sex life is just asking for trouble. And why publicize pix of children - that is not appropriate at all. Does she know that there are crazy lunatic stalkers out here that will hunt your ass down and rape you? And your children too? Doesn't she watch the news? Doesn't she care about her babydaddy? She must not be too bright - you must get a better friend  |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 3192
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 03:45 pm: |
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(As the band keeps up the groove from "This is a Man's Man's Man's Man's Man's Man's Mans World")
UNGH!
Do you know what I'm talkin' about say
UNGH!
One more time just say
UNGH!
Don't say uhh say
UNGH!
(Seque into "Lost Someone"
"I'll love you tomorrow
Like I love you today
I'm so weak
Don't take my heart away
Come on
Come ooonnnnnnnnn OW!
Come o-on
Come onnnnnnnnnn OW!
Band Seques into "Please Please Please"--you know the rest |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Username: Lola_ogunnaike
Post Number: 52
Registered: 10-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 04:19 pm: |
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Personally I believe in being open and graphic about one's sexuality and sexual habits. |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Username: Lola_ogunnaike
Post Number: 53
Registered: 10-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 04:20 pm: |
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A man on the subway told me he'd like to "creampie" me. He said it with a leer. What does this mean? He said he would enjoy the contrast against my dark skin. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7170
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 04:36 pm: |
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Lola,
Maybe you have EXPERIENCED a "creampie" but the guy(s) just didn't tell you the name of what he(they) was(were) doing. |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Username: Lola_ogunnaike
Post Number: 56
Registered: 10-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 04:46 pm: |
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Nice
Creampie, or internal cum shot, is a colloquial term in pornography to describe when a man ejaculates inside his partner's vagina. While in most sexual situations, this is the default way of ending vaginal sex, in pornography vaginal sex is generally followed by a facial or other visible ejaculation. Thus, ejaculating in the vagina is a novel situation which can be advertised to attract viewers.
An anal creampie (other terms: chocolate creampie, mudpie) is a variation where a man ejaculates in his partner's anus. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 2550
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 04:50 pm: |
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But twenty minutes ago you didn't know what a creampie was, and so you had to ask about it and post that vulgar definition here.
Would you please get the fuck lost  |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Username: Lola_ogunnaike
Post Number: 60
Registered: 10-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 04:54 pm: |
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I took that definition from Wikipedia, which is largely run by White People. How can anything written by White People be vulgar or in any way inaccurate? |
Abm
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Post Number: 7173
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 05:02 pm: |
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Lola,
I don't think ANYONE who's followed your presense here figured you to not know what a "creampie" is.
*drip* *drip* |
Lola_ogunnaike
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Username: Lola_ogunnaike
Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 05:33 pm: |
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HO HO HO
I had a creampie for breakfast this morning.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 7175
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 05:36 pm: |
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I hope it had plenty of coconut filling in it. |
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