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Troy
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Post Number: 408
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 11:39 am: | 
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Most of the regulars here know I live in Harlem and I love Black people.
Last weekend I pulled, my folding chair out of the basement, a couple of brews out of the fridge and headed off to the Harlem Day Parade down the street. This was the first Harlem Day parade I attended in maybe 3 decades. Every year I miss it for one reason of another but, this year I was excited to go. I love to see a good marching band. I heard there were folks were coming from all over the country to perform – so I was hyped. No one else in my family was similairy excited, so I went by myself, though my youngest joined me later…
Now to the point of this story: I was astonished by how many of our young people were grossly over weight – the young women in particular. I would estimate that at least a third were obese (some morbidly so). Sure I’ve heard and read reports about this situation, but the condition was never made so stark to me – nothing like parading a couple hundred obese young ladies, in mass, to make a point…
To make matters worse, several of the fat young ladies were shaking their behinds, chests and gyrating in ways that would make a seasoned stripper cringe. I mean it was like watching big, fat pornographic majorettes from some alternate universe.
I’m accustomed to seeing adults gaining weight as they hit middle age (including myself), but these young folks are getting big before they hit puberty.
I know some would say Troy you are overreacting, and by today’s standards perhaps I am. In reality that is the problem (today’s standards or a lack of them).
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Urban_scribe
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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TJ - welcome to the "$1 menu generation".
I feel you and I see what you see. I see it at my teenagers' high schools. Teen boys don't seem to be as obese as teen girls. I guess because boys still play b-ball, football, skateboarding and such. While with teen girls their activities include going to the mall, talking on the phone and/or getting their hair and nails done.
I work not too far from a public HS. My lunch break is usually between 2pm - 3:30pm. At that time, the HS students are done for the day and, let me tell you, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get into the nearby McDonald's, Wendy's, KFC, Burger King or Taco Bell. These fast food joints with their 99 cent and dollar menus are a haven for teens. With $5, they can live LARGE. And with all that processed food, high in calories, saturated fat and cholesterol, they are getting LARGER and LARGER and LARGER.
Now throw in a bag of chips and a couple of 25 cent Little Debbies - everyday - and there you have the typical American teenager's diet.
If it were up to me, I'd make fruit, veggies, poultry, fish, lean meats, nuts, milk, eggs and whole grains cheap, cheap, cheap.
I'd charge about $10 for soda, $15 for ice cream and about $20 for a doughnut.
That would force kids to eat right, cuz it's cheap, and enjoy sweets and junk food in moderation as an ocassional treat rather than the staple of their diets.
But if you notice, it's the opposite. The foods that are good for us are expensive and the unhealthy foods are cheap. I've also noticed a higher concentration of cheap, low quality junk foods and fast food restaurants in inner city neighborhoods than in middle class and wealthier areas. I don't believe that's a coincidence. |
Tonya
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Troy - I'm sure Mzuri would agree with you.  |
Renata
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OH, GOD, yes...the price discrepancies. White bread (which I don't like at all) is about 2 for a dollar. Whole grain/multigrain bread is about 3.00 for one.
100% Real Fruit Juice.....$3.00 (sometimes more) for a 46 ounce bottle. Fruit flavored sugar water? $1.00 a gallon.
Dairy Milk, 2.30 a gallon. Soy milk, 3.00 a HALF GALLON.
It makes absolutely no sense. |
Igbogirl
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 01:17 pm: |
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Also, its not only the black kids who are grossly overweight. America is getting fatter and fatter across the board. There are some big sprawling mampy sagging flabtastic white folks all over the place. |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 1543
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 01:36 pm: |
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Tonya - Why don't you STOP trying to bait me. You are so pathetically childish. I'm sorry that your girl had a mental breakdown or whatever her problem was. Okay. Really. I will miss her. I have one less person to cuss out now. In the meanwhile, try to do something about your hard-on for me. You're starting to give me the creeps. LOL!!!
Anyway, as the original topic - I heard that 2/3 of the population is overweight. And it's my understanding that all of this weight gain can lead to major health problems like diabetes, heart failure, etc. So I think that we are witness to a new generation of fat people who will turn into a drain on our medical resources. And our funeral parlors.
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Tonya
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Troy - I'm sure Mzuri would agree with you. |
Tonya
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Troy - I am sure Mzuri would agree with you. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 01:38 pm: |
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Poor Tonya. You seem so starved for attention. It's sad, really. Have you tried MySpace. I heard that's an excellent way to get a booty call. LOL!!! |
Ntfs_encryption
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Nope! You are not over reacting Troy. It is a medically documented fact that obesity and being excessively over weight is on the upswing in the US, particularly among the young. And as a group, unfortunately, black women are affected the most. I’m not exactly sure what the cause is, but black women (as a group) suffer the most from this growing problem. When film clips of the victims of Katrina were being shown, I noticed the size of many of the black women. But I just noted it and said nothing. When I read two articles and listened to a comment from my best friend (who is a medical doctor), about the size of these black women, I knew it wasn’t just me who noticed it. And to add fuel to the fire (because I know there is going to be some back lash by a few enraged members of this board), when I came back from Japan in 1998 for two weeks, a friend of mine took me to an all black club. I guess maybe I had grown accustomed to the phenotype of Asian women (I’m not even sure) but I do remember very vividly, I was sitting at a table, paralyzed with disbelief at the size of the women! Wow! I just couldn’t believe how anyone could wear the clothes they were wearing. Why would anyone wear clothes that unflatteringly accents their stomachs and makes their ass appear to be 45% of their total body weight! The clothes were so tight, they looked like sausage casings and the skirts were at the same level where a t-shirt would fall. And I seriously doubt if there was one woman who weighed under 200 lbs regardless of her height. I know this report seems harsh and judgmental (and I’m sure I’ve offended a few readers by saying it), but like John Hurt said in the movie 1984, “How can I deny what is in front of my eyes?”There is no reason for me to lie.
Anyway, what you saw (being obese and greatly over weight) is epidemic and widespread across the US. I now live in the most body and looks crazed area in America (So Cal) where there is a gym, spa or fitness center on every corner. But it seems to have bypassed black women. I see white, Latina and Asian women every single day (no exceptions), doing one or the other, either jogging, cycling or working out in the gym. But rarely do I see black women (as a group) doing the same. There are a few, but no where near the percentage that it should be.
One morning I was going to my car and a young black woman came jogging by with her iPod and she may have had a small dog running with her (can’t recall exactly). I couldn’t believe it! I don’t recall many if any black women doing any road work. But I was happy to see a sister taking a proactive role with her physical fitness.
And for the record, I’m not suggesting there are no black women who jog or work out at a gym, but it is more the exception than the rule when addressing the group. Also, I don’t go to one gym. I have access to many, many gyms, both military and civilian. So I’m not referencing just one or two gyms when making this observation. This subject came up before in another post and someone attempted to dismiss what I said by claiming she works out a gym and there are many black women working out at that particular gym. I believe her. But what she countered with is not the standard for the group (working out in gyms, jogging, cycling, etc). That’s the problem. Black women do not see issues of weight the same as white or Asian women do. This may or may not be a good thing, depending on how your interpret it.
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Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 02:00 pm: |
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NTFS - I'm guilty of not exercising much other than dancing around the house to the stereo. But I've never had a weight problem. I'm 5'4" and weigh about 130 lbs. And since I'm in my forties now I think that I'm past the point of getting fat. All the women in my family are fit and slim.
I never can figure out how our society gained so much weight. I mean we were all born around the same size - 6-10 lbs. How is it that some people get so friggen gargantuan. And why is it that people wait until they've gained 50-100 lbs before they go on a diet. Anytime my zipper gets tight, I know it's time for me to cut back or get busy or something. That hasn't happened very often, I'm just saying that to make a point. |
Renata
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Some of it is what people prefer to eat. I remember seeing a white woman in the grocery store once, and I SWEAR, other than her carton of cigarettes, EVERYTHING ELSE was a carbohydrate. EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THE CIGARETTES. |
Mzuri
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Oh yes, I'm a meat and potatoes person. I eat potatoes in some shape or form at least once a day, sometimes twice. Actually, I could eat potatoes three times a day I'd never get tired of them. And I eat quite a bit of salads. And I drink lots of juice and water. |
Fortified
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It's all about the proteins with me. I hear that if you have meat and veggies or carbs and veggies, you're all right. Just don't combine carbs & meat. This obesity shit is out of control. I hate to obese kids, too. That's child abuse, nothing less. |
Igbogirl
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One morning I was going to my car and a young black woman came jogging by with her iPod and she may have had a small dog running with her (can’t recall exactly). I couldn’t believe it! I don’t recall many if any black women doing any road work. But I was happy to see a sister taking a proactive role with her physical fitness
Do you live in New York?? If so, that might have been me you saw! I go jogging outside in the mornings with my small dog and I always have my iPod on!
I have to say though, that I am always seeing black women working out. My black female friends are gym rats. In my neighborhood, even the high-end $150 a month gyms have a high number of black chicks working out in them. My spinning class has black women in it, even the instructor is black. The woman who runs the karate dojo I go to is superfit - and black. There are black women in my pilates class.
Maybe so many of them don't run outside because they are sick of guys ogling their tits and ass. However, there are plenty of us working out indoors. |
Mzuri
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It's plain dangerous to go jogging anymore. |
Igbogirl
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Mzuri, 130 lbs seems a LOT for only 5'4 presuming you are female. Do you have a large frame? I'm 5'9 and weigh between 130 and 138, it varies. |
Brownbeauty123
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"Maybe so many of them don't run outside because they are sick of guys ogling their tits and ass. However, there are plenty of us working out indoors."
I started a thread about that. Many women go to the gym (Black women included).
Ntfs, I'm surprised that you are acting as if seeing a Black woman working out is so bizarre. I'm offended. At my college, I see tons of black girls on treadmills, lifting weights, and yes SWIMMING. Even when I had a membership at the gym, which was located in a Black neighborhood--Black folks (men & women) were crawling through the cracks to work-out early in the morning.
If anything, Americans as a whole are fat and/or out of shape. I see tons of White women who are thin but flabby. |
Mzuri
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I'm solid. I have a medium size ass, big thighs and double d's. But I'm not fat at all. I promise. My weight is between 125 and 130. I'm not one of those people who gets on the scale everyday. Last time I weighed myself that's where it was, and since I'm wearing my same clothes I would think that my weight hasn't changed. |
Igbogirl
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Not suggesting for a minute that you are fat. Sounds like you have a great shape! A couple years ago I went through a pizza and TV stage with no exercise for a year and my weight went up to about 150 and I actually looked better. |
Brownbeauty123
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Igobgirl, from reading your stats you sound skinny ass hell. I'm a inch shorter than you and if I weighed 138 I'd look like a skeleton.
I'm 5'8 and weigh 160-165 lbs. Once I had gotten down to around 148lbs and wore a size 5! |
Mzuri
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I didn't even gain much weight when I was pregnant. After I bore my offspring, I bounced back to my original shape within a couple of weeks.
I feel that we should do what works for us, and I definitely don't think that we should all look like toothpicks. But being fat, overweight, obese and all of that is just wrong. The Black community needs to get it together better than this. |
Igbogirl
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Igobgirl, from reading your stats you sound skinny ass hell. I'm a inch shorter than you and if I weighed 138 I'd look like a skeleton.
I'm 5'8 and weigh 160-165 lbs. Once I had gotten down to around 148lbs and wore a size 5!
Not really terribly skinny. I wear a size 4 to 6. I have tiny wrists, tiny ankles, very thin hands and feet etc: so I guess my frame is not all that big. |
Igbogirl
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Oh and after I was pregnant I actually LOST mad weight for a year or two. My weight plummetted to about 119 lbs and I was crazy skinny at that point. Well, no thinner than the average fashion model actually, LOL. Two years after giving birth, I went back to normal. |
Brownbeauty123
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A size 4 to a 6 is very small. But then again, I come from a family of thick women with big booties & large frames. |
Renata
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yeah, NTFS, I don't get that stereotype that black women don't exercise. They sure as hell INSTRUCT enough aerobics, dance, cycling, etc., classes.
Igbogirl, that happened to me, too. I lost maybe 40 pounds when I was pregnant. It scared the crap out of me! I was sure I was going to have an underweight baby, but he showed up at 7 pounds, 13 ounces anyways......fighting and clawing so bad that he was ENTANGLED in the cord!
I haven't swam in about 4 or 5 years or so...but I live in a neighborhood that has kids in the pool everyday. I can't swim with kids in the pool. In my old neighborhood, I think there was only one child there and she was under two. So, basically, I (a stay at home wife at the time) had the entire pool to myself everyday. |
Cynique
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Anorexia is the bane of white women who seek perfection. On the other hand, fat black women are confident and comfortable with their extra pounds, and think they look just fine, down at the club with their hair and nails "did", dancing away in a new too-tight outfit they just got out of lawaway or at church on Sunday morning in their Lane Bryant suits and wide-brimmed hats. My peoples, my peoples. Uh-Uh-Uh. |
Cynique
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I used to be a size 6, but I outlived my slimness. Now as a lady of leisure I have doubled my size to a 12. tsk-tsk. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 11:57 pm: |
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"Maybe so many of them don't run outside because they are sick of guys ogling their tits and ass.”
Well, that certainly isn’t an excuse for white women. I see them running everyday and I’ve yet to see anyone harass them. Not saying that it does not happen, but because it is so common, no one really pays any attention to it.
”However, there are plenty of us working out indoors."
I’m sure of that. Ha! Ha! Ha!
”I started a thread about that. Many women go to the gym (Black women included).”
Yes many women do, including black women as you have stated. But when you look at group gym activity, black women do not work out with the regularity and consistency as white women. Its very evident they don’t.
”Ntfs, I'm surprised that you are acting as if seeing a Black woman working out is so bizarre. I'm offended.”
Well, I’m sorry to offend you my dear but I have no reason to lie or make this up. I would love to see more black women involved in cardio and consistent gym activity. This is somewhat related to the conversation, but I was very happy to see more black women involved in professional body building. The first major black female pro body builder (and first black Ms. Olympia) was Carla Dunlap. I remember when competitive female body first took center stage, FOR YEARS THERE WERE NO BLACK WOMEN TO BE FOUND EXCEPT FOR ONE –CARLA DUNLAP. Although I never cared for her physique (her calves were weak and I always thought her overhaul symmetry and balance was blocky and sub par -especially when compared to other competitors) But I thought she was the most articulate, intelligent and insightful body building commentator. She was born for the job. She was excellent! She covered major amateur and professional shows and she was so professional and knowledgeable. Very impressive.
There have been two more black female Ms. Olympia’s since her win back in 1983. And for a number of years, there were number of black women dominating the top 10 places in the Ms. Olympia (top professional body building contest in the world). I was a very happy man! I like seeing sisters strutting the rewards and results of their gym work off. It’s a big turn on!!!!!!!!!!
So no, I don’t think it’s bizarre PBG, it’s just not a common activity for the group. But to be fair, I live in San Diego and there is not a large population of blacks here. Blacks are about 8% of the total population. I have taken that into account –trust me! But even so, the numbers are still very weak. When I go back to Ohio, to my home city (where there is no shortage of black folks!), when I used to go to the gym, to be honest, I DON’T RECALL EVER SEEING A BLACK WOMAN WORK OUT. Not saying there were none, I just never seen any. Again, sorry if this offends you.
”At my college, I see tons of black girls on treadmills, lifting weights, and yes SWIMMING. Even when I had a membership at the gym, which was located in a Black neighborhood--Black folks (men & women) were crawling through the cracks to work-out early in the morning.”
Great! I’m very happy to hear this. But as you noted, you were in a predominately black area. That should be no surprise. But if you look at black women across the board (the entire US), irrespective of where they live, the numbers are not there.
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The FBI (Fat, Black & Ignorant) rises again. |
Igbogirl
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Totally disagree Ntfs. There are a LOT of black women working out regularly at the $130-a-month Equinox gym in the Wall Street area in New York which is NOT even a "black" neighborhood. Any gym or class I've ever been to, well apart from in places like Milan etc, there have been plenty of black women working out there.
I'm wondering if you have some kind of issues with black women. You seem to frequently post negative things about them.
Here's what I saw last time I was in my gym:
receptionist at gym: black, female
membership officer: black and female
2 of the personal trainers working: black, female
Spinning class instructor: black, female
People exercising: maybe 15 black females out of a total of 45 or 50 people working out on the machines at that time. |
Ntfs_encryption
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”Totally disagree Ntfs. There are a LOT of black women working out regularly at the $130-a-month Equinox gym in the Wall Street area in New York which is NOT even a "black" neighborhood. Any gym or class I've ever been to, well apart from in places like Milan etc, there have been plenty of black women working out there.”
Doesn’t matter. It still does not reflect the inactivity of the entire group. But I believe you about your gym. Are you suggesting that as a group, black women are equally as physically active and concerned about their physical health and overhaul appearance as white women? Not that I’m pitting one group against another, but I’m just using it as an example.
”I'm wondering if you have some kind of issues with black women. You seem to frequently post negative things about them.”
I don’t think so. Please reference any post where I denigrated or attacked black women. Just because you object to my comments, that in itself does not prove that I have issues with black women. That’s a cheap shot that has no merit nor can it be substantiated. I’m very fair in my assessments. Perhaps you should read my post a little more carefully instead of selectively picking out assertions and suggesting that I do not like black women.
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Fortified
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More black women need to work out and stop using their fucking hair as an excuse, then eating buckets of fried chicken. I find that the middle to upper class black women tend to exercise moreso than their working class counterparts. It doesn't cost anything to take a brisk walk around the neighborhood |
Brownbeauty123
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Ntfs_encryption, your opinion and observations of what Black women do matter the most AND have more credibility than anyone else on this forum (and the world.) You win. |
Igbogirl
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Fortified stated that more middle class and upper class black women do tend to workout and care about their physical appearance. I agree with this and since that is my background, the black women in my life tend to be from quite similar backgrounds. We all take our health seriously and work out, eat healthily etc. I also know quite a lot of the "boho" type black women, who also take their health very seriously.
A lot of black women in the projects and on low incomes admittedly do not workout much. But when you are poor, possibly have several fatherless kids to raise and a very low salary (if you even have a job) - probably going to the gym or taking a brisk walk is not going to be the most pressing thing on your mind!
Case in point: I was raised upper-middle class with private schools, exposure to the theatre blah blah blah. I have an older half-sister who was raised differently. She married a dude who was involved in drug dealing, had three kids, he left her, she lives in low-income housing. She has sooo much on plate that exercise and eating healthily is the last thing on her mind. Whereas I, with a totally different lifestyle, have time and money to go to a fancy gym, eat organic food, read up on health and fitness etc etc. Because I am not having to focus all of my energy on just trying to survive and get by: I can devote time to working out and doing pilates, going running etc. But I fully sympathize with my sister - who IS overweight. If I was her and I worked a minimum wage job like she does and then came home to three unruly kids at the end of a loooong day, probably I wouldn't be doing all this jogging, buying all this organic food etc etc.
Also, white women from more disadvantaged backgrounds (think trailer parks) are unlikely to workout and stay healthy.
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Urban_scribe
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Igbogirl, you've made a poignant point. Obesity is associated with poverty these days.
There was a time in history when being overweight or obese was associated with wealth and privilege. Think of all the Rubinesque paintings and other works of art from that era. Also, look at portraits of European royalty and American aristocracy. You'll note that virtually everyone could stand to shed quite a few pounds.
If you read Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, there's a passage where JC remarks about Cassius, I believe that's the correct character, that he (JC) feels skeptical of Cassius' loyalty because he is thin and, therefore, spends his time plotting.
So thinness was associated with poverty and the poor, as they are today, were looked upon with disdain and disgust.
As medical science began discovering that even being as little as 10% above our ideal body weight can put us at greater risk for diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and certain cancers, attitudes changed. Thinness now became desirable and looked upon as healthy. Add the supermodels and hollywood leading ladies to the equation and hearing and/or reading countless stories of these starlets' luxurious lifestyles - thinness is now craved en mass.
As for your sister, I know it's none of my business but, has she ever thought about loading up some water bottles in a backpack and taking her children outdoors with her and running around with them in a playgroud or field? Pack a few frisbees, or jump ropes, a basketball or football. Hell, when I was a kid, we couldn't afford to waste money on a jump rope from the five and dime. We used to play double dutch with old extension cords and clotheslines. Anyway, you might want to suggest this to her and maybe even join in. It's a great way to further bond with her kids and the whole family can get in some fun activity. Best of all, it doesn't cost a thing.
I love to eat and have a hearty appetite and a sweet tooth. So, I rely on a lot of different activities to keep me at a healthy weight. I recently discovered belly dancing. I feel silly doing it so I only do it at home along with a dvd. But it's a lot of fun and burns a lot of calories. If your sister has a dvd player, she can purchase a belly dancing dvd (about $15) - anybody can do belly dancing - and she could tie a few colorful inexpensive scarves around her and the kids's heads and hips, shake a tamborine, and the whole family can be silly together.
I don't think there's any excuse, no matter how hard we work, or how shitty our jobs are, how many kids we have (I have 4), or how financially tight things may be, we can always, always find 10, 15 minutes a day to exercise. We owe that to ourselves. |
Igbogirl
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Scribe, I just think with my sister it has as much to do with her state of mind as her financial situation. She feels beat-down, tired, pretty annoyed with the world - in that frame of mind its unlikely she will contribute energy to doing nice things like running outside with the kids and throwing a frisbee. I agree with you that she COULD do these things but I can't see it happening.
Also, it has to be said that my sister's big body attracts a lot of men. She always has men chasing after her. When I meet her boyfriends they ask me why I am so "scrawny" and they clearly prefer a fat woman like my sister. |
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Mzuri:
"I never can figure out how our society gained so much weight."
Moonsigns:
It's so understandable, though. Americans drive cars, ride on buses, and take the train more than they walk or ride bikes (to work). They sit at computers or in front of a television more than they engage in physical activity. Our food source is laced with unnatural horomones, chemicals, poisons, fake sugars and additives --which the human body was not created to metabolize. On top of that, "junk" food is marketed at a lower retail than "health" food (which is criminal!). Our "health care" system is one that focuses on managing the symptoms of disease rather than healing the root cause (which is usually nutritional/lifestyle) -- and they will prescribe patients drugs that (usually) only make them more ill. Lastly, Americans are either too lazy or don't have the resources, to demand change.
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Ntfs_encryption
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"Ntfs_encryption, your opinion and observations of what Black women do matter the most AND have more credibility than anyone else on this forum (and the world.) You win."
Ha! Ha! Ha! Nice dig but I don't think so. There is nothing to win my dear. I was just expressing what I know and observe. It is very obvious by looking at the group, black women do not take care of themselves as well as they should. This is not just my opinion as offensive as it sounds to you. As a group, black American women have the highest rates of being overweight or obese. Being overweight or obese increases your risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, stroke, breathing problems, arthritis, gallbladder disease, sleep apnea osteoarthritis and some cancers. All of the aforementioned is related to being excessively overweight. Which brings us back to not working out and for black women to seriously make their overhaul physical fitness and health a priority. This applies to the group –not the individual.
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Igbogirl
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As a group Ntfs, let us not forget that black men are in piss-poor physical shape. |
Ntfs_encryption
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"As a group Ntfs, let us not forget that black men are in piss-poor physical shape."
Yep! That's why they are the hottest, most sought after and have the best natural physiques. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! |
Mzuri
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Quit bragging!!! |
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Ntfs, see that's my problem with you. You denigrate black women, calling them as a group fat and unkempt. then you delude yourself by thinking black men are better. The AVERAGE black man eats junk food daily, is ashy, hasn't hit the gym in years and has a life expectancy similar to that of somebody in a Third World country.
Did you know that the average life expectancy for men in the US is only 68.7 years compared with 75.4 years for a white man (black women's average life expectancy is 76.1 years.)
And as for black men being the most sought after in the world, keep on dreamin' There are some women who like the idea of "a bit of black" and using black men for sexual experimentation but.... |
Mzuri
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IgDoo - NTFS did not denigrate Black women. Do you even know what the word means? Because one definition of denigrate is to make black; blacken. There's your vocabulary word for the day.
I didn't take offense to his post because he was NOT referring to me. He stated facts or opinions and what he believes to be true. Not all Black women are into keeping themselves together in the looks, health and weight department.
But . . . . what? Don't tell me you're another one of those oreo hoes that thinks whites, mexicans and asians are better than the Black man. If you really believe that other men are SUPERIOR to BLACK men, you are one frooty ass bitch and you have much to learn.
As with the Black women, some Black men aren't taking care of business. And if all your Black men are ashey and fat, then you need to establish a better circle of associates. |
Igbogirl
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Good Afternoon Shitty-Pant. How's your day going so far? Any skidmarks in your knickers yet today? Or have you finally learnt how to use toilet tissue? Good luck. |
Mzuri
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IgDoo - God you're an imbicile. If you're going to cast insults/retorts, why not make them original. Skid marks, toilet paper? That's the same bullshit you used yesterday. What are you - a fucking kindergartner? If you're trying to hurt my feelings then your little shitty diaper routine isn't happening. You really should work on your repertoire so that you can conversate with grown folks, stop being such a waste of a jizz dickdrip cumstain spooge for brains, and try to contribute something to the discussion. |
Igbogirl
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Shitty-Pant, its interesting to me that a woman of your advanced years would answer my admittedly ridiculous recent posts and - worse still - get all angry and bent out of shape over such total and utter NONSENSE. I was merely bored and in a silly mood for a minute. Its surprising and sad that you took it seriously enough to reply. I have not called anyone Shitty-Pant since I was about six years old ) |
Mzuri
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When was that, two years ago? Look - nobody's bent out of shape ass clown, I was demonstrating how to be insulting. LOL!!!
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”Ntfs, see that's my problem with you. You denigrate black women, calling them as a group fat and unkempt. then you delude yourself by thinking black men are better.”
First of all, I did not nor do I denigrate black women. We have covered this before. Not going there again. I was just stating the facts my dear. The body fat statistics and empirical epidemiological information I posted are based on medical and health facts, NOT MY OPINION. You need to understand this. Just because you find these facts unflattering and offensive, that does not make them not true.
”The AVERAGE black man eats junk food daily, is ashy, hasn't hit the gym in years and has a life expectancy similar to that of somebody in a Third World country.”
Hmmmmmm…..really? Well, explain to me why black men, as a group, have the best physiques and lower body fat percentages. Have you ever checked out the physiques of male body builders? Because black men, as a group, have a smaller hip-waist and shoulder differential, they tend to have the best symmetry –as a group! Think not? Pick up a copy of Flex magazine and take a look at the top male body builders both professional and amateur. When it comes to symmetry and lines, they dominate! Don’t take my word for it, JUST DO IT!
When I go to the gym at NAVSTA San Diego, there is an indoor basketball court. It amazes me how many of those young brothers (who are your age) are cut and ripped. They are not really into lifting weights, but their natural pectoral, abdominal, intercostals and arm development is quite impressive. Not everyone of them is like that -but it is very common. I have no reason to lie about this. NO OTHER ETHNIC GROUP OR RACE HAS THE MUSCLE DEFINITION AND LEANNESS THESE YOUNG BLACK MEN HAVE. Sorry if this offends you, but it is true. In fact, EVERY SINGLE WHITE, FILIPINA AND HISPANIC WOMAN I KNOW THAT DATES BLACK MEN –RATE THE BROTHERS AS HAVING THE BEST BODIES –BAR NONE! Who is paying them to say that?
"Did you know that the average life expectancy for men in the US is only 68.7 years compared with 75.4 years for a white man (black women's average life expectancy is 76.1 years.)"
Unfortunately, this is very true. I have no problems conceding this. But there are a lot of mitigating factors that drag down the overhaul life expectancy average. I hope you aware of this.
"And as for black men being the most sought after in the world, keep on dreamin' There are some women who like the idea of "a bit of black" and using black men for sexual experimentation but...."
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ya think? Like Paul Mooney said, the black man is the most imitated figure in the world. Brothers have natural game and sensuality that others rival and envy. They have the best bodies, best game, talk the talk and walk the walk, most confident and lay down the best pipe! And for some reason that you cannot explain, they are perceived as insatiable sex machines. Why not Asian men? Not trying to be racist but it’s true.
Why is that the pornography industry is growing by leaps and bounds because of the interracial sex craze? It wasn’t like this 10 or 15 years ago in the industry. Why is it like that now? BECAUSE OF THE BLACK MAN –NOT MEXICAN, ASIAN, INDIAN OR WHITE MEN! Again, why? BECAUSE THE BLACK MAN IS THE NUMBER ONE SEX SYMBOL! I’m not suggesting that is necessarily a good thing, but it is true.
Bottom line is this my dear, I know you are angry and offended by my posting medical facts about black women, but your misguided counter attacks against black men are hollow and no more than bitter counter vitriol. I have noticed that your posting since you have joined this board, have really ramped up. You post a lot of very interesting opinions and information. I like that. But you are very young (it’s very evident in your writing) and your youth blinds you to many realities that one day you will realize. And one day you will be at the other end of those insults you so gleefully and cavalierly hurl at senior members of this board when you mock their age. TRUST ME!
So, if I post something that you deem to be negative, do not take it personally. I’m only posting facts not contrived vindictive misinformation.
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Igbogirl
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Ntfs, according to an article in Time, black men were dying alarmingly younger than other men, even when you factored in the problems of driveby shootings and so on. When black men and white men earning the same salary and living in the same part of the country still, the black men still died much much younger than the white men. |
Igbogirl
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Oh and Ntfs - actually black PEOPLE have the lowest body fat, not just black MEN, you ass. I have this on authority. Even those big heavy black women you so gleefully denigrate here, have lower body fat than white women their exact same size. Black people naturally have more lean muscle mass and subsequently lower body fat.
I wrote an article a couple of years ago about body fat % testing. I had my body fat percentage tested by one of the leading experts in the field and the test involved me being dunked underwater. My body fat % came out at 16% and I wasn't even really working out at the time. The average, healthy body fat % for an adult woman is 20-25%. Olympic athletes (female) have body fat in the 15% range. When I asked the man who tested me if it was not a bit weird for my body fat % to be so low considering I am not a serious athlete - he explained that actually, the average body fat percentages for black women are lower. Instead of the 20-25% healthy white women have on average, for black women the range is more like 16% - 22%
There are plenty of men out there (of all races), PLENTY who think that black women have the best physiques of all. |
Ntfs_encryption
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"Ntfs, according to an article in Time, black men were dying alarmingly younger than other men, even when you factored part of the country still, the black men still d.........ied much much younger than the white men."
I see. So why do you think it is like that? |
Mzuri
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That's because them fine ass Black men get all the pussy and their hearts give out earlier than the other groups!!! |
Igbogirl
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Nt
I understand how upsetting it must be to be a black man. The only positive thing about being a black male that you could come up with is that you allegedly have "the best" physiques. That probably does little to ease the pain that one third of you wind up in jail, you get stopped by cops all the time and sometimes beaten up, you can't get cabs half the time, you earn less than white men, you go to college less than white men and you go to college less than black women, you get promoted less, you die younger and you're more likely to get shot and/or get AIDS. Its pretty sad. Hopefully flexing one's muscles in front of the mirror at the gym will ease the pain. |
Igbogirl
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Also, maybe N dose not see black women at his gym. But unless you also go to pilates classes, yoga classes, OTHER gyms, jogging trails, the YMCA, martial arts classes and local swimming pools - (and also peer in black women's windows to see whether they are working out at home using DVDs) - you don't have any idea of how many black women are exercising or not.
I, myself, am a member of a gym. But you don't see me in there more than once a week (for my spinning class). The rest of the time I am at the yoga studio, jogging outside with my dog, at a martial arts class or using the treadmill I have at home. If it wasn't for the fact that I am in shape, you would likely be accusing me of not working out since I am not seen that often inside the gym. Think about it. |
Mzuri
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Isn't the topic of this discussion obesity, physical fitness and health? That's why NTFS focused his comments to Black men's muscles and pecs. Damn. And who the heck is trying to catch a cab anyway? |
Igbogirl
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Shitty-Pant!!! Always great to converse with you!!
Am I the only black woman here who has seen her share of brothers with grrrreat bodies and an equal share of brothers who are skinny and/or ashy or fat and outta shape?
Where are these black Adonis super-muscled men who ALL have perfect physiques? I haven't seen them in New York. But....hang on.... actually I have seen them! In Africa!! But in America I've seen some fine black men and some out of shape blah black men. Don't make out every black man is an Adonis - that's just a joke and its as stupid as saying all black men are kings just to try to reverse the psychological damage in black men's heads. |
Mzuri
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They are right here where I'm at. I reside near an Army base and all of the brothers got it going on. Even the old retirees seem to be in better shape than Black men in other localities. Because they tend to want to stay physically fit. Look for men in uniform - that's the ticket. |
Igbogirl
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Ooh, thanks for the advice. Now fit black men in uniform, that's a nice visual. |
Ntfs_encryption
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”Oh and Ntfs - actually black PEOPLE have the lowest body fat, not just black MEN, you ass. I have this on authority. Even those big heavy black women you so gleefully denigrate here, have lower body fat than white women their exact same size. “
Once again, your gender paranoia and hypersensitive is misguiding you. I have never denigrated black women anywhere on this board. And I have yet to see you provide any posts where I have. So I don't think I'll be holding my breath since none will be forthcoming.
”I wrote an article a couple of years ago about body fat % testing. I had my body fat percentage tested by one of the leading experts in the field and the test involved me being………………. Instead of the 20-25% healthy white women have on average, for black women the range is more like 16% - 22%.”
You wrote an article? Uh huh...that's interesting. I see. Well, your assertions conflict with the American Obesity Association who stated among U.S. adults, black women have the highest prevalence of overweight (78 percent) and obesity (50.8 percent). Let’s not stop there. I have more references and information that further contradicts the so-called article –that you wrote. According to the US Department of Health and Human Services (go to womenshealth.gov), the latest National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey found that obesity and overweight were highest among black women. And according to Blackwomenshealth.com, black women have a serious problem with weight and obesity. They stated between 50 and 66% of black women can be classified as being "overweight". They also maintained that black women suffer from obesity at an alarmingly disproportionate rate when compared to women of other races.
The Journal of Women's Health & Gender-Based Medicine and the American Heart Association stated that obesity and being overweight is highest in black women than any other group. The North American Association for the Study of Obesity (NAASO) and The American Physiological Society also reported that black women have the highest rates for obesity and excessive weight. But they’re all lying right? And your alleged paper is medically accurate and can be empirically substantiated? Yeah –right! The others are racist and unfairly denigrating black women like I do, correct? Listen to this: I believe them –not you! And for the record, I didn’t need to read their reports to know any of this. I can see it with my own eyes!
”I understand how upsetting it must be to be a black man.”
Upset for being a black man? I have no idea what drugs you are taking or what world you are living in my dear but I have never been upset for being a black man. Perhaps the circle of people you associate with (or probably you) have issues with being black but I don’t. Never have.
”The only positive thing about being a black male that you could come up with is that you allegedly have "the best" physiques. That probably does little to ease…………you die younger and you're more likely to get shot and/or get AIDS. Its pretty sad. Hopefully flexing one's muscles in front of the mirror at the gym will ease the pain.
Ya know, I will be honest and concede that there are a number of things black men do that I do not agree with and personally loath. But the aforementioned is nothing more than knee-jerk teen-age reactionary carping. Your petty and cheap attempts to run down black men because your pre-puberty hyper sensitive feelings were hurt because of a medical fact about black women, is pathetic. Don’t hate on the brothers because you want some kind of twisted revenge about something that is universally known and medically documented. And one more thing –don’t forget the nut sack you came from belonged to a black man! Ya got that!!!
”Isn't the topic of this discussion obesity, physical fitness and health? That's why NTFS focused his comments to Black men's muscles and pecs.”
Yes, it started out like that. I was stating medical facts. But Boo Boo became enraged because her feelings were hurt. So she made a feeble attempt to retaliate by hurling caustic and cynical rhetoric at black men. All of which was so transparent and embarrassingly juvenile and silly. There was no need to do so. If she wants to attack black men to purge herself of her seething animosity and anger, fine. Start a thread called Black Men Ain’t Shit Part II for her cathartic therapy. But the original post was about health and fitness.
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Mzuri
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NTFS - You're giving Boo Boo much too much of your precious time and attention.
IgDoo - Have a NICE day!!!       |
Igbogirl
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Ntfs, like it or not, the statistics speak for themselves, black men are so triflin that they wind up in jail at a disproportionate percentage (and no, they are not all innocent of the crime, LOL), they graduate from college less than ANY other ethnic group including black women and Hispanic men, the earn less, they are less healthy, they are more likely to commit a crime, get AIDS, they wind up in mental institutions at a disproportionate rate. You guys are hardly a prize.
On the flipside, black women are doing the damn thing in the work place, more of them are graduating college than ever before, they live longer than your sorry asses, one-third of them DON'T wind up in jail and they are more accepted in the workplace than black men. Also they have no problems hailing cabs. So, maybe a disproportionate number of them are overweight. Sure beats being beating a black man, IMO. There are, thankfully, some exceptions among black men, some brothers who are not uneducated, self-hating, black-woman-hating, blame-everything-on-The-Man monkeys. In the public eye, you have men like Denzel Washington, Spike Lee, Samuel L Jackson and so on. Men who are MEN, who love black women, who don't have problems with self-hate, who are successful and able to forge successful lives for themselves without blaming everything on the white man and acting like spineless little pussies. But the average black man is a JOKE. The only reason women of other races are interested in black is because they've heard that black men have bigger cocks (which isn't even true!). There is also a myth that black men are more manly - there is SOME truth in that in that black men will act more neanderthal as a rule, because they don't have the benefits of a first-class education and don't have that polish. It amazes me that black women even give the average black man the time of day anymore. |
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My comments above do not apply to African men or Caribbean men. Those men tend to have their heads screwed on right and are usually real men and I am proud of them. |
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”NTFS - You're giving Boo Boo much too much of your precious time and attention”.
Mzuri, thank you. You are absolutely correct and I’m going to put an end to right now. If you have noticed, her vicious attacks on black men are confusing and contradictory since this is the same black woman who accused me of self hatred(?). Yet in another post she called me a black money and continues her unabated vitriolic diatribes against black men. Mind you, this is a woman who is the product of a “black man”. Strangely, she cannot control her racist name calling and ferocious attacks against black males. And remember, this is the same sad, bitter and confused individual who has stridently accused me of denigrating black women. The murky waters are now crystal clear when revealing who is the real victim of racial self hatred.
I have never under any conditions used the language and racist stereotyping against black women as she obsessively does against black men. BUT YET SHE ACCUSES ME OF DEGRADING BLACK WOMEN AND OF SELF HATRED! Duhhhhhhhh…???? What’s wrong with this picture? I think we are witnessing a very bitter and juvenile vindictive young black woman who is seeking revenge against medical facts she cannot refute by launching an avalanche of derogatory racist accusations in retaliation.
I think you and I are both in agreement about the inexcusable and poor behavior of a number of black men. Yet we do not indulge in tactless sweeping racist generalizations like this angry hypocritical misguided simpleton. This is the same individual who floods this board with fallacious pro-black threads yet she gleefully enjoys barking like a rabid junk yard dog about the pathology and failures of black men. So you’re right. I’m giving this sub consciously self loathing hypocrite too much credit and time. That’s why I’m not going to respond directly to her ongoing frothing at the mouth childish rants.
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