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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 41
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 10:58 am: | 
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Yeah, I knew that headline would get your attention. We all chuckled when Michael Moore wrote his book titled, "Stupid White Men." It was cute, made some people think, and he made a ton of money from it. I wonder how many of those stupid white men have changed anything in their lives when it comes to politics, education, injustice, or their economic status. Was Moore really serious about them being stupid, or was it all said tongue-incheek? I don't know what his motivation was, whether it was sincere or whimsical; what I do know is that he made money and he received tremendous publicity for his rant.
Now, let's talk about stupid black men and the rising number of stupid black women, too, and see if we can generate some money from a change in our actions. The stupid ones I am talking about are those brothers and sisters who expose themselves to the criminal "injustice" system, the ones who are out there committing crimes only to end up at the "mercy" of a system that hates them; those who think they are slick and will never get caught; and those who literally have no understanding of this prison industrial complex and the economic role they play as prisoners or even as accused.
There is one word that I think describes a black person who knowingly puts himself in criminal jeopardy. There is one word for a black person who complains about how he or she is treated by "the man" and then commits acts that will ultimately subject him or her to the prejudices of "the man." There is one word that aptly describes the black person who would volunteer to be a slave in jail, creating wealth for a slave master, while sentencing himself to a life of poverty. There is one word for the black person who associates with folks who are doing things that could lead to contact with police officers, many of who are just itching to do bodily harm to a black person. One word: Stupid.
I understand that every black man or woman in jail should not be there. Some of them did nothing to deserve being incarcerated and should be set free. I still lament William Mayo's situation, as he literally rots away in a Georgia prison for a crime he did not commit. I went to one of his hearings down in Georgia and watched that white racist judge dismiss the whole situation like it was an annoyance rather than a criminal justice proceeding. I understand, as I watch brothers like Michael Austin in Baltimore, Md., walk out of prison after serving decades for crimes they did not commit.
I definitely understand, and I am not talking about those who get profiled and wrongly accused simply because they are black. Stupid are the ones who actually commit the crimes, thus, volunteering to be fodder for a corrupt, greedy, and hateful system that has profit as its only motive. Why would anyone volunteer for that? Are material items that important to risk our lives for them? The answer is an obvious and resounding "yes."
If you know the history of this country, you probably know why we commit some of the crimes we see so often-even the murder of our own brothers and sisters. If you know history, you know, as Amos Wilson says, that much of the violence we see today is "The psychodynamics of black self-annihilation in service of white domination." But, many of our young people don't know history; they don't know who they are; they don't know about the legality of slavery in the prison system; and they don't know about the economic role they play in that system. I still say it's stupid to voluntarily do anything that you know will result in being locked down for years under a hateful slave master.
It's time we stop citing the numbers of black men and women in jail. It's time we start educating ourselves about this latest way to eliminate black people, or at least to use us economically. It's time we start to change our thinking and really get serious about the problem we face- not just the symptoms. It's time we stop being stuck on stupid. Why rail against the issue if you are unwilling to address it with action?
So here's the deal: Let's stop being stupid. No, I don't want to hear the excuses on why you "have to do whatever it takes" to get yours. No more excuses about being poor and deprived. No more excuses about "the man" not giving you a break (What kind of a break do you think you are going to get when you get out jail?) No more selfhating, self-deprecating responses to your unfortunate situation in life. This stupidity of filling up the jails and maintaining an economic windfall for white folks is, as Mike Tyson would say, ludicrous. Yeah, Mike was stupid, too.
Aren't you sick and tired of knowing that, in addition to black folks being the number one consumers of goods made by everyone else in this world, we are also volunteering in many cases to do even more to enrich other folks? I implore you, don't be stupid. Stay out of the line of fire; stay out of harm's way. It's easy enough to get picked up for not having committed a crime. Why volunteer for it? The only thing black folks have coming from this criminal injustice system is time. Don't do anything that will cause you to be imprisoned. Get involved in the Boycott Prisons and Jails Campaign. Contact me, and I'll tell you how to do it.
---By James Clingman
James E. Clingman, an adjunct professor at the University of Cincinnati's African American Studies department, is former editor of the Cincinnati Herald newspaper and founder of the Greater Cincinnati African American Chamber of Commerce. He hosts the radio program, "Blackonomics," and has written several books, including "Black-o-Knowledge- Stuff." For more information, go to his website, www.blackonomics. com or call him at (513) 489- 4132.
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 669
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 11:29 am: |
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Nice post. I agree. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 5148
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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Much to the chagrin of many, a few of us have never underestimated the expediency of young people following a few simple rules to give themselves a better chance in life; things like staying in school, avoiding pregnancy and - not committing crimes. Those who ridicule this advice, prefer rationales that don't involve personal responsibility. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 673
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:35 pm: |
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".....young people following a few simple rules to give themselves a better chance in life; things like staying in school, avoiding pregnancy and - not committing crimes."
You would think they would heed those words, but for many, it is easier to willingly act out a thug life and blame the system for their demise when they are incarcerated for manslaughter, car jackings, physical assaults, selling drugs, armed robbery, etc, or having 4 to 5 children out of wedlock with 3 to 4 different men. Avoiding personal responsibility and sensible decision making is something they believe they should be exempt from. Victimization and entitlement is their pass for non-accountability. Ooops! I better stop now…I’m sounding like Bill Cosby or John McWhorter. Don’t wanna do that……
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2746
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 03:44 pm: |
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Okay:
While we're at it, why don't we stop going to the poorhouse trying to be white? Why don't we quit spending money on European cruises and going to pricey resorts--we know those people don't want us there.
Why don't we stop making idiots of ourselves trying to join country clubs? And for that matter why don't we stop moving into all white neighborhoods and start crying when the whites kids won't play with ours or when they start painting KKK all over our garages?
You see, the upper class negro is as big an idiot as his lower class brother. His bling bling is just the rolex and the mercedes benz, in the end he winds up in the poorhouse just like that idiot with the gold chains and the cadillac.
And why don't we quit falling for stock swindles and get rich schemes like AMWAY? Why don't we quit piling into megachurches and giving these people our money trying to buy our way into heaven?
Why don't we quit licking up under Bill Clinton like dogs whenever he deigns to come to one of our meetings? Why don't we stop having these dinners, dressing up and going to fine hotels when we know we can't afford it?
Why don't we quit ruining our health and our marriages and families working two and three jobs? When will we find out money isn't everything?
When will married black men stop ruining their situations having girlfriends on the side? Why don't Negroes stop marrying for love?
Why don't Negroes stop being human? Sure white people are cannibals and mass murderers--that don't give us a license to wear our pants hanging down--screwing up is for human beings and we are nothing but apes, just like they say
Why are we even alive? Why don't we do the world a big favor and shoot ourselves?
I guess we were overdue for some self loathing on here, it had gone on too long.
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Abm
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Post Number: 6496
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 04:24 pm: |
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The big difference between foks who do prison time (aka Black men) and everybody else is other foks (aka White men, White women, Asians...and even Black women) is other foks either are NOT actively pursued for the shyt they do (aka non-Black men) or rather than do the shyt themselves they willfully benefit from the criminal shyt others do (aka White, Black, Hispanic, Asian...women). |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 3299
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 05:14 pm: |
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ABM...you are SO painfully right.
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Cynique
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Post Number: 5153
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 05:36 pm: |
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chrishayden's litany is reeeally inspiring. But he didn't go far enough. Why don't slave descendants all just return to the jungles of Nigeria? Enough of this white western civilization! |
Cynique
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Post Number: 5155
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 05:53 pm: |
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And, actually, chrishayden could benefit for a little "self-loathing" himself. He is much too in love with the idea that nobody but him should be allowed to speak out about black woes. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 1303
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 09:32 am: |
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But, many of our young people don't know history; they don't know who they are; they don't know about the legality of slavery in the prison system; and they don't know about the economic role they play in that system.
And if this is the case, whose fault is that? People are not born knowing. If they are not taught, it is not likely they will learn. And if they can't/won't come to us to learn (e.g., in these marvelous schools young folks are just supposed to "stay in" to make all their problems go away) then we need to go to them. |
Abm
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Post Number: 6514
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 11:09 am: |
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I am as much an advocate of "integrity" as the next guy. But truth is, many people - your spouse, parent, kids, extended family, friends, even YOURSELF - likely will or already have done SOMETHING that would/could deemed a crime and are NEVER made to account for their offenses. So whenever I see foks spout off the hard-liner "personal responsibility" mantra in responses to critiques of the criminal justice system, the hypocrisy make me want to hurl.
Everyday millions of (mostly White) so-called responsible, upstanding people engage in myriad criminal acts:
@ Cheat on their taxes. (Federal/State crime)
@ Pilfer supplies/equipment from their employer and they 'pad' their expense reports (Petty/Grand theft)
@ Receive payment/gifts for steering contracts to selected vendor/suppliers (Kickbacks/extortion)
@ Buy, distribute and consume illegal narcotics (Criminal offenses)
@ Dump pesticides, chemicals, poisons in/near water and other protected ecosystems (Environmental crimes)
@ Drink then drive (Criminal/Vehicular offense)
@ Engage in underage drinking (Criminal offense)
@ They jaywalk/liter (Misdemeanor in most major metropolitan areas)
@ They exchange oral/anal sex acts (Texas/Alabama State crime)
In fact, if the criminal justice system was even remotely fair, any Friday night about 20 million suburban White kids would be incarcerated for underage drinking, drinking/driving, drug use, vandalism, date rape, trespassing, assault/battery, assorted traffic violations and other infractions.
And yet they are almost NEVER made to pay penance for these 'crimes'. In fact, these 'crimes' are so commonplace, most of them hardly think they are breaking the law; much less concern themselves with getting nabbed.
Not all laws are fair, just or evenly applied. So until these laws are impartially written, executed and litigated, I will remain a staunch critic of what Prof. Clingman appear to assert. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 5160
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 11:31 am: |
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Yes, Yvette, "we" do need to go to them. And when "we" go to them what's wrong with making constructive criticism?? The alternative to not staying in school, to avoiding pregnancy and not committing a crime is to become high school drop-out, have 3 or 4 fatherless kids, get a gun and holdup a 711 store and end up in prison. Why is it so offensive to so many others when people suggest doing certain things that may help avoid the pitfalls of the "ghetto"?. Nobody is saying that these admonitions are the be-all end-all for alleviating the handicap of blackness. They are just 3 spokes in a wheel that when other ones are put in place will help things to move forward. Itemizing what white people get away just stunts black incentive. Why focus on something that you can't do anything about - except emulate. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 02:48 pm: |
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People who suffer from self-hate DO NOT give constructive criticism. They take advantage of the situation by using it to do what they've been waiting for: a chance to spit on the people they hate without paying the penalty. Which is a shame because muddying the water just makes it harder for genuine folks with real constructive criticism to offer. I think this professor is one such person.
..This is the part I liked most:
It's time we start to change our thinking and really get serious about the problem we face- not just the symptoms. It's time we stop being stuck on stupid. Why rail against the issue if you are unwilling to address it with action? |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 686
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 03:12 pm: |
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”The alternative to not staying in school, to avoiding pregnancy and not committing a crime is to become high school drop-out, have 3 or 4 fatherless kids, get a gun and holdup a 711 store and end up in prison. Why is it so offensive to so many others when people suggest doing certain things…………. Itemizing what white people get away just stunts black incentive. Why focus on something that you can't do anything about - except emulate.”
Groan…there you go again Cynique. Making sense! Dang it! I have no idea why you think these people are going to stop pointing fingers at bad behavior to justify and rationalize more bad behavior. It’s easier, less challenging and less stressful to point the finger at the “system” or "the man” and blame them for ones lack of morals, common sense and personal accountability. If you take away their race card and ability to point to the horrible wrong doings of whites and a history of discrimination, they would be left with no argument –no defense for poor and indefensible bad behavior. Comon’, that’s not fair –is it?
They wouldn’t be able to use slavery (the biggest crutch and con), corporate greed and corruption to justify black men impregnating 2, 3, 4…..16 (yes -16! I have the article of a young black man who at the age of 22 had 16 children by 9 different women!) women and walking away, shooting other black men to death for accidentally bumping into them in a club or for wearing the wrong colors, milling around and drinking 40 ounces on the corner 24/7 and urinating in public (seen it countless times) or blasting their music in their home dwellings or cars with culturally enriching music that glorifies repeatedly calling black women bitches and ho’s and other black people niggaz’s, nigga’s, nikkas, etc, etc…
This behavior should not be criticized nor condemned because of Bush’s nefarious administration, the fleecing of tax payers by the military industry complex, illegal activities of lobbyists in Washington and corporate special interest, lies and extortion by the pharmaceutical companies and white people who get slaps on the risk for drug violations that would land a black or Latino in jail. The aforementioned behavior by whites is the direct cause for an unfortunate large number of brothers not taking responsibility for their children and black on black violence! How else can you explain it? Just ask Michael Eric Dyson.
Bottom line is this –we must not question nor criticize inexcusable anti-social behavior by blacks because by doing so, you will reveal self hatred, being a stooge and proxy for white racists, hating black women, hating yo’ ma ma and most of all -not wanting to be black. Get it? That being said, yes it is offensive and intolerable to suggest that a number of black people are somehow responsible for the quagmire of pathology and problems in their lives. Let’s just focus on the evils of the white man and reparations and not expect black people to take any responsibility for their lives. STOP MAKING SENSE! It ain’t right! Ok…???
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Tonya
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Notice that this professor has the proper background WITH an appreciation for “The psychodynamics of black self-annihilation.” Unlike self-haters waiting their whole lives to spew venom, he knows what he's talking about. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 04:49 pm: |
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YOU accusing somebody of spewing venom, Tonya, is like the pot calling the kettle black! And what would you do if you didn't have the old "self-hate" comeback to relieve you of the responsibility to provide a viable rebuttal to the idea that the black dilemma can benefit from more than one approach. You are in such a rut. |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 05:45 pm: |
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Actually, it wasn't a rebuttal--(certainly not to Ntfs post, same ol' shit, don't read 'em anymore)--it was consistent with the approach the author took.
I advised you once; I'll say it again: buy a clue! |
Cynique
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No, it wasn't a rebuttal, Tonya. It was you parroting the view that you have repeatedly espoused. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 69
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"No, it wasn't a rebuttal.."
Good, so you can catch on.
"It was you parroting the view that you have repeatedly espoused."
At least the context varies! Jeez. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 06:06 pm: |
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Yes, Tonya. You're like George Bush. People like you 2 don't bother with rebuttals. That's the point. You have a ready-made label for everybody who doesn't adhere to your way of thinking. With Bush the label is "unpatriotic." With you, it's "self-hate." |
Tonya
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((("With Bush the label is 'unpatriotic'.")))
Exactly, Cyn, Cyn. Whitey stays WHITE by remaining patriotic to the cause.
You on a roll today, sweet thang! |
Tonya
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By the way, what a clever way to BITE my line. |
Tonya
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Posted by..
TONYA on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 02:01 pm: "Jesse Jackson" thread.
Nfts: "...when was the last time you heard the term "white leaders"? You won't because there are none! White people are free to agree or disagree within a wide range of subjects and issues without being called "Uncle Jebs" and race traitors (except by the most extreme and dangerous groups -e.g. Aryan Nation, Skin Heads, Nazi's, et al)."
Tonya: By America being a nation with ideals firmly entrenched in white supremacy, and where many perceive the terms “America,” “American” and “white” synonymously, some would argue that our president is infact a “white leader.” And though I haven't witnessed the term “Uncle Jebs” being used, I have heard the terms “un-American” and “unpatriotic” tossed around liberally.
(Not that everything white is right like your statement implied.) |
Ntfs_encryption
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”Notice that this professor has the proper background WITH an appreciation for “The psychodynamics of black self-annihilation.” Unlike self-haters waiting their whole lives to spew venom, he knows what he's talking about.”
Oh wow! That was brilliant! Thank you. I do know what I’m talking about. That’s the difference between you and I. But I’m glad you realize the futility and counterproductive results of denial and excuse making.
”Yes, Tonya. You're like George Bush. People like you 2 don't bother with rebuttals. That's the point. You have a ready-made label for everybody who doesn't adhere to your way of thinking. With Bush the label is "unpatriotic." With you, it's "self-hate."”
Thank you Cynique. I see you have noticed this also. She has no rebuttal other than shifting the focus from the issue to a personal attack by accusing someone she does not agree with of self-hatred. Amazing how Negroes who lack an intelligent and compelling counter argument will desperately seek to discredit another black person via the self-hate accusation. She has no way of knowing something like that other than freely hurling such a stupid characterization at someone she does not agree with. When her sensitivities and cage is rattled, she frantically screams self-hate because she has no other creditable recourse. It’s easy, cheap, requires no proof and lacks substance. Predictable cop-out for someone who lacks the skills to provide a meaningful counter argument. It’s like someone who throws a rock through the window of neighbor they don’t like at night and then running away.
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Tonya
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...zzzzzzoooommm!! Right over your head, like the flyover country you are!
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Ntfs_encryption
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"...zzzzzzoooommm!! Right over your head, like the flyover country you are!
Uh huh....yeah...right......
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Schakspir
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This is Tonya's time to blow her horns since Kola is ducking out for God knows what reason. |
Tonya
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Btw, Cynnique, I think we ought to give Karl Rove the credit for thaaaat BRILLIANT move: Notify the troops via the use of ONE word (oblivious to most DELUSIONAL black, yellow and brown Americans)???? Fucking genius!
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Cynique
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What???? |
Tonya
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Like I said: fucking genius! |
Yvettep
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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And when "we" go to them what's wrong with making constructive criticism??
Nothing wrong with this at all, Cynique. However, there's the rub, in that single word "constructive." Constructive criticism builds, brings about betterment, engineers change, produces and (re)constructs. I am as tired of the destructive, unhelpful criticism as I am of folks "blaming Whitey." Both hurling (often, obvious) destructive criticism and pointing the finger away from oneself are easy ways to avoid doing anything.
At least for this writer in the opening post, it sounds as if he is about both criticizing and getting to work to do something. If so, I am all for that and more power to him. |
Cynique
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I am for anything that works also. And maybe deconstructing and rebuilding might work. That's how they make good Marines, you know. I advocate drastic measures and tough love because nothing else has produced wide spread improvements. There are really no new ideas out there that aren't being explored, including grassroot political movements and economic development projects and studies designed to facilitate change. Yet these well-meaning endeavors invariably end up bogged down with internal strife and power struggles and financial corruption. The debate as to how to uplift the black race has been going on for over 50 years and here we remain, stifled by dissent. So, I still say, that each family has to become its own movment, its own project, and cultivate its own leaders because it all begins with stabilizing the family unit, and that's why I bitch so much about irresponsible breeding. |
Cynique
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You been hittin the sauce again, Tonya? Put your ramblings into context. |
Tonya
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Excellent post Yvette!
Just thinking out loud, Cynnique, Sorry. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 11:36 pm: |
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"The debate as to how to uplift the black race has been going on for over 50 years and here we remain, stifled by dissent. So, I still say, that each family has to become its own movment, its own project, and cultivate its own leaders because it all begins with stabilizing the family unit, and that's why I bitch so much about irresponsible breeding."
Well, that sounds about right to me. I agree. |
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