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Ntfs_encryption
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Movie Clip Stirs Debate over Black Relationships
by Allison Keyes
A clip from the upcoming film Diary of a Tired Black Man is generating a great deal of buzz in the African-American community. The scene features a man arriving at the house of his former spouse with a new partner: a white woman.
The clip has been e-mailed around the country and featured on blogs and on nationally syndicated, black-oriented radio shows. It has sparked a heated debate over the many issues it raises, from interracial dating to whether many black women are simply "too angry" to be datable.
The clip is just three-and-a-half minutes long. But it's still enough to leave many viewers waving their hands in the air -- either in agreement or frustration.
Provoking Viewers
The clip begins with an attractive black woman sitting with three friends, watching her ex-husband pull into her driveway with a white woman at his side. The women castigate the ex-husband, James, as a "weak punk" who has chosen to date outside the race rather than handle what they call a strong black woman. James blames the women for their inability to find, much less keep, a decent black man at their side -- because of their penchant for drama.
First-time filmmaker Tim Alexander, who enjoys being provocative, says there's a disease out there that he calls the "angry black woman syndrome." He says it must be identified, diagnosed and treated.
Alexander believes African-American women who grew up in fatherless homes, hearing their aunts and grandmothers saying black men are no good -- and hearing that opinion reinforced in the media -- are now angry adult women.
"They grow up, deal with the wrong men, finally meet the right guy and don't know how to turn it off," Alexander says. "They are so used to fighting; it's the only way they know to have a relationship. So when a man is a good man, they think he's a punk."
Rekindling an Old Debate
Alexander's movie scene revives a sometimes rancorous debate that has been going on in the African-American community for decades: Why can't black men and women deal with each other in a positive way? And what does that mean for the future of the black family?
It is a burning question for many, including the callers that flooded the phone lines during Alexander's recent appearances on nationally syndicated black radio shows. When Alexander appeared on Rev. Al Sharpton's show, Keeping It Real, one female caller argued that black women's anger "generally starts from the man." A male caller countered: "When we come home, we don't need that loud-mouthed, self-sufficient, independent macho woman disagreeing with everything we say. We need kind women."
Bleak Messages About Black Relationships
African-Americans have been bombarded in recent months with negative messages about the outlook for black couples. The Washington Post fronted a weekend "Outlook" section with the headline "Marriage Is for White People," and there are many books with titles such as Black and Single. The Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies in Washington says the percentage of black women who've never married has more than doubled between 1950 and 2004.
"If you internalize that, you will enter a relationship where you are doing everything or putting up with anything just to have someone," says LaDawn Black, a Baltimore-based author and radio host. Her show deals with relationships between black men and women. She says things aren't as bad out there as one might think.
"Don't believe it," Black says, "because if you look around, you have friends having successful relationships."
UCLA professor and sex therapist Gail Wyatt agrees. She says African-American men and women have to stop allowing outdated concepts -– and media-driven angst -– to divide them.
"Our strength is in our ability to stand together," Wyatt says. "I don't care if a black man marries a black woman or not. I care if we support each other and don't buy into myths that make us look like and live like stereotypes."
There's no quick fix for the issues between African-American men and women, Wyatt says, but she believes they can be solved. Filmmaker Tim Alexander says he hopes his movie sparks a discussion that can bring some change and healing to the black community.
Go to: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5474218
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Schakspir
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Black relationships have always been bleak, ever since we came to this country. It's just now more out in the open. |
Sohra
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Black relationships .. what relationship????.. al you afro americans cheat like hell.. my god.. you NEVER see a somali guy cheating on ey somali girl.. for on UGLY DISGUStING white girll... but you do..so so so sad..just keap on going.. you are ey shame for the BLACK Race... |
Misty
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Post Number: 360
Registered: 02-2006
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"clip from the upcoming film Diary of a Tired Black Man is generating a great deal of buzz in the African-American community. The scene features a man arriving at the house of his former spouse with a new partner: a white woman.
The clip has been e-mailed around the country and featured on blogs and on nationally syndicated, black-oriented radio shows. It has sparked a heated debate over the many issues it raises, from interracial dating to whether many black women are simply "too angry" to be datable."
I just had to stop and say something about this part before i read anything else.
have you noticed that white men's bitterness towards white women and preference for asian females hasn't gotten this much publicity? and yes there are plenty of white women who have problems with white men chosing asian women over them and those who dont view them as honorary white women. But this stuff is simply not publicized. There are actually more white males with asian women than black men wiht white women, yet the black men get far more press when they badmouth black women and choose white women over them.
the same can be said of white women and their growing bitterness towards white men....there have always been a good number of white women to "badmouth" white men and choose to date black men over them, but it still doesnt recieve this much press.
The media is sick and they LOVE seeing black people express bitterness towards one another...the whole world looks on and laughs "see i told you black men didn't want them ugly ass man-acting black women." It simply proves their stereotypes to be true. They also take pleasure and pride in seeing black women act "jealous" (or what they percieve as jeaouls) towards white women.
I also don't understand why they keep rehashing this same old trite shit over and over (well maybe i do)....this stuff has gotten old and is nothing new...it's nothing that the media hasn't shown before....it's been publicized so much that it gets boring to read and hear about after a while and you soon lose interest in this issue. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:08 am: |
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I don't whether I find what the tape presents to be authentic and representative of what's going down between Black men and women. But I find it interesting that the male in the tape appears more African than African American.
I wonder is that coincidental. Or is that intended to symbolize anything? |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sohra. Are you sure you aren't Kola's Boof's evil twin?? (Or maybe she's your evil twin.)
To me, the contentious relationship that exists between black men and black women is an example of a well-kept little secret which is: some problems don't have a solution.
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Sohra
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free speech that's all i have to say.. don't you dare to compare me with That ****.. |
Misty
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:28 am: |
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"To me, the contentious relationship that exists between black men and black women is an example of a well-kept little secret which is"
LoL, secret? this same stuff has been rehashed and re-aired over and over on radio stations, on the tv, on messageboards, in black homes....it's far from a secret and it seems the powers that be like it that way. what's being kept secret is a good number of white mens hostility towards white women (especially american white women as many of them say).
but cynique, i agree with you i really dont think alot of these problems ahve a solution. |
Abm
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Post Number: 6380
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:35 am: |
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Misty,
Life is a Journey. Not a Destination. |
Cynique
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The "secret" I had in mind was not the ongoing public debate, Misty. The secret is that people are conditioned to believe that human dilemmas are like mathematical formulas which can be always be solved. That's not necessarily the case. |
Cynique
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And another secret is that I meant to say that people are conditioned to believe that human dilemmas are like mathematical posers which can by solved by applying formulas. Obviously my coffee has not kicked in yet. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
Ngo
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 05-2006
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"al you afro americans cheat like hell.. my god"
LOL!! |
Cynique
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That's cuz they don't practice polygamy like Africans do. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 3210
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My first reaction is:
FUCK ANGRY BLACK WOMEN.....what about "Black Children"?
And this is where this man's comments fall completely apart for me.
(A) How does a "MAN" refuse to give birth to his own image--refuse to have Black sons----because all he gravitates to are "angry" black women????
Therein...is a LIE he's telling.
A REAL MAN who is heterosexual---a natural human being--would have to see his image brought back into the world.
(B) Since we just realized that this has nothing to do with "Black women"----we now realize that this man is running from HIMSELF. And in order to do so and not be seen for the "weak punk" he fears being called-----he scapegoats and demonizes those women who reflect his own image.
He COPIES his Slave-master to a "T". Using the "skin coloring", "hair texture", etc. of these women-----because they have to be "BLACK", remember???----in order to have this special problem that doesn't afflict his slave master's White Mother.
Do any of the sisters here see this "aesthetically" and break down what is actually being said???
(C) He's saying: "I don't want MYSELF"....anymore.
But of course, there's enormous shame and cowardice attached to that truth.
(D) By failing to re-produce his own image or fellowship with his own power base, and by rejecting himself and the black women----but affirming and accepting the White woman, not for LOVE, but for his "running" and his self-loathing-----he NEUTERS himself. He CASTRATES himself.
He marries the Lynch rope, and thus finds a new way to hang from it---because he misses being subordinate and being erased.
(E) And thus...his PRIMARY RAGE at "the black woman"...is because SHE more than anyone can see that he is not a man---but a "nigger".
He is not man enough to give birth to himself in the presence of OTHER MEN---and thus, he is INFERIOR and DEFEATED.
And he HATES the black woman---because she has no way now...to "respect" him.
Black women---when you are faced with this type of rebuke from Black men and find yourself in an argument.
START FIRST
with "black children". That is the first matter of business in this argument-----and make it clear that you KNOW what's up.
Outnumbered by Black women 8 to 1---there is always a GOOD black woman----it's just that "HE" doesn't want a Black woman.
Because she's BLACK.
Even if he got with a "black" woman--she'd have to be Yellow or Mixed looking (MAKE THAT POINT--so that you plant the TRUTH in his mind).
That he isn't man enough to acknowledge, nurture (raise) and perpetuate his own image...and MAKE IT CLEAR....that though you sympathize with him and will always love him on GP......you don't "respect" him, because of it.
And then let him go.
I guarantee you--your words will knot in his knees like arthritis. And by TIME, he will bend to your words.
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Kola_boof
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CYNIQUE SAID:
That's cuz they don't practice polygamy like Africans do.
Cynique is totally right.
Africans (the men at least) cheat just as much, if not more than Americans do.
That's just a fact.
At least in America---I, as a female, can get me some too if I wish---without being stoned, burned or beaten.
African men are the biggest whores in creation, and the Black American/Jamaican/Carib Male is just as misguided in their belief that unless you've got "ten bitches"---you're not a man.
Their "DICK"---as the White Man assigned---is their identity (because that's easier than being a man).
Of course---we're generalizing. I know MANY Black men in my personal life/world who are TRULY fully men and are not like this. But...we're generalizing.
One thing I will give the African male---is that he will insist on raising and providing for his children regardless of the mother. His culture counts his manhood by (a) his producing his own image----and (B) his providing, reering that image in HIS WAY.
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Misty
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Post Number: 373
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"Misty,
Life is a Journey. Not a Destination."
right, im not saying things cant get better but i just doubt the entire problem will be swept away one day (at least not form the way things look right now)...unless God destroys the earth and recreates everything.
the only thing we can do is attempt to recreate and reshape things according to our ideal...so no we shouldnt give up on our problems i jsut doubt all of them will ever completely go away. |
Sohra
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Africans (the men at least) cheat just as much, if not more than Americans do.
liar liar liar.. afro americans cheat al fucking day long.. because.. that's the PIMP style.. ok.. I stay in the usa to I have eyes.. africans hou are cheating are the africans that ''act'' getto.. |
Abm
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Misty,
Where has ANYONE argued or inferred that these problems can and will be wholly remedied?
There is NO perfection, at least on THIS plane of existence.
All we have are what we think DOES exists, what we think SHOULD exist and very LITTLE time to make sense of and hay about EITHER of those. |
Tonya
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Kola,
I thought about all of that, too, from A to E but this was my first reaction:
we need more dark-skinned and African writers, filmmakers, critics, leaders, bankers, scientists, FATHERS, think tankers, doctors, PSYCHOLOGISTS, sociologists, activists, actors, actresses, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. |
Kola_boof
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Tonya,
As a writer fitting your description----I TOTALLY AGREE---and I'm very sad that there are so few of us.
Expect big shit from me, though---in the coming year.
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Kola_boof
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BTW---Hi TONYAAA!!!! 
It always lights up my day when I see you here posting, sis. I love you and appreciate you so much.
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Tonya
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SAME HERE. |
Mzuri
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Cynique
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Cut it out, mzuri! ROTFLOL |
Tonya
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Awww. Don't be jealous--join the love you snail skinned hatchbacks!
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Cynique
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Yep, I have to admit that I'm jealous of 2 creatures who are better examples of snail-skinned hatchbacks than I am. sigh. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 660
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"we need more dark-skinned and African writers, filmmakers, critics, leaders, bankers, scientists, FATHERS, think tankers, doctors, PSYCHOLOGISTS, sociologists, activists, actors, actresses, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera."
Oh God...here we go again. Will someone please help this woman find her chlorpromazine and see to it that she takes her medication with some type of regularity. If not, we will continue to read such schizophrenic reality detached noodlings. Having dark skin ensures nothing when evaluating the quality of ones work or profession. WE NEED MORE BLACK PEOPLE IN THESE PROFESSIONS PERIOD -REGARDLESS OF THEIR SKIN COLOR. I have no idea what you expecting from a black person who is dark complexioned vice someone who may not necessarily have the same hue of skin color. This silly and pathetic reasoning is the same mindset that white racists have used since the beginning of this country to subjugate and discriminate against black people and anyone else who does not mimic their Aryan model of superiority. Given the opportunity, the color of the individuals skin is meaningless if they possess the skills and talent to do job. Only in the eyes of racist does it matter.
Not to sound harsh, but you would realize this if you took your medications my dear. Reality would be a lot less painful for you. Trust me.
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Ntfs_encryption
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have you noticed that white men's bitterness towards white women and preference for asian females hasn't gotten this much publicity? and yes there are plenty of white women who have problems with white ����There are actually more white males with asian women than black men wiht white women, yet the black men get far more press when they badmouth black women and choose white women over them.
This is very true. But it's not as exciting as watching the pyrotechnics and drama that unfolds when the white hot subject of black male-white female relationships is rolled out. Asians have the highest rate of interracial marriage and relationships than any other group. But they are not as threatening as black men. When discussing white men with Asians, Latinos with whites or Jews with Indians, people generally tend to look the other way or shrug their shoulders with indifference or nod their heads disapprovingly. But when the subject of black men and white women (and God -don't let her be blond and blue eyed!) comes up, you have just turned the ship flank speed into Sea State Five weather conditions -the ultimate Typhoon! Expect some nasty and very heavy rolls!!!!
I also don't understand why they keep rehashing this same old trite shit over and over (well maybe i do)....this stuff has gotten old and is nothing new...it's nothing that the media hasn't shown before....it's been publicized so much that it gets boring to read and hear about after a while and you soon lose interest in this issue.
This is also true. I agree 100%. But nevertheless, it never fails to emulate lighting a match in a closed room that has a natural gas leak. Standby....
To me, the contentious relationship that exists between black men and black women is an example of a well-kept little secret which is: some problems don't have a solution.
Exactly! There is no solution to this situation. Why? Because there is nothing you can do about nor are there any conditions that can be implemented to stop it. If you enjoy dating people of another race -do what you do. If it bothers you, well...that's too bad since there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Be with whom you feel comfortable with and enjoy. Why agonize and labor over something you have no effective influence or control over?
"al you afro americans cheat like hell.. my god"
Ya know something, we welcome all opinions and thoughts at this board, no matter how outrageous they are. But when you post inflammatory ignorant generalizations, you should expect to be called out for doing do. That's the way it goes. First of all, I live in a city that has a large populations of Africans (Somalians, Ethiopians, Eriterians, Nigerians, Sudanese, et al) and I know for a fact that your African brethren are not practicing sterling monogamy! Secondly, you need to remember where you are (America) and why you are here. Do not think for one second that black Americans are going to allow a board rookie like you to step in here and make these vicious accusations without getting flame sprayed. So I suggest you tone down the racist accusations against black Americans.
African men are the biggest whores in creation, and the Black American/Jamaican/Carib Male is just as misguided in their belief that unless you've got "ten bitches"---you're not a man.
Well....anyone care to argue this point? I'm not.
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Tonya
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((("I have no idea what you expecting from a black person who is dark complexioned vice someone who may not necessarily have the same hue of skin color.")))
Shared experience, bitch. All you had to do was ask.
((("This silly and pathetic reasoning is the same mindset that white racists have used since the beginning of. . .")))
Debatable but, hey, let's just say that it's true: how is your singling out black people by saying: "WE NEED MORE BLACK PEOPLE IN THESE PROFESSIONS PERIOD -REGARDLESS OF THEIR SKIN COLOR" any less racist than me singling out dark-skinned people for said purpose--SLASH--the white racist mindset?
...Take your time Einstein. And don't give me no touchy feely "we all brown" bullshit. Go strictly by the logic you just laid out. |
Misty
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"This is very true. But it's not as exciting as watching the pyrotechnics and drama that unfolds when the white hot subject of black male-white female relationships is rolled out. Asians have the highest rate of interracial marriage and relationships than any other group. But they are not as threatening as black men. When discussing white men with Asians, Latinos with whites or Jews with Indians, people generally tend to look the other way or shrug their shoulders with indifference or nod their heads disapprovingly. "
while i agree with this Ntfs, and i know whites have far less of a problem when a non-black minority is paired with a white person, i think the constant rehashing of this subject by the media has even more to do with the media loving to portray black women as rejected, humiliated, bitter, jealous and manless.
they know that if they examined the dynamics of the relationship between white men and asian women or white men and hispanic women, then it would be putting white women in the same place that black women are constantly portrayed in by the media.
this has even more to do with upholding white women as the standard of womanhood and feminine virtue. This is why the media takes so much pleasure in highlighting this topic.
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Lil_ze
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Post Number: 463
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:00 pm: |
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the most intelligent thing stated on this thread was said by professor gail wyatt, "black men and women have to stop allowing OUT-DATED concepts- and MEDIA DRIVEN ANGST- to DIVIDE THEM".
this is SO true.
most of the things that many of the posters on this board talk about over and over and over again, are not even taking place (or if they are its on a very small scale). the media and attention hungry fame seekers choose to overblow these issues in order to divide us. for example, listening to some of the posters on this board, you would think there is somekind of GRAND animosity between light skin and darker skin black people. but this is just not true. perpetuating the idea that there is a rift between light and dark skin blacks, keeps our people fighting amongst themselves, and keeps our enemies smiling. this is just ONE example.
the relationships between black men and women is another. people love to push the idea that there are big problems between black men and women. but this is just not true. im not saying that there are no problems between black men and women, but they are not as grave as some would like us to believe. most black men are in relationships with or married to black women. there is not a mass departure from black women on the part of black men. but if you listen to some people you would think that MOST black men are with women of other races, and black women are angry about how they have been left behind. these things are just "pushed" to divide our people.
lets not convince ourselves that things are taking place, just because a handful of attention starved people want to paint these untrue pictures. most of the things we hear in the media and from these alleged "black intellectuals" is just b.s. to divide us. |
Cynique
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Well, Tonya at least you didn't become mired in the befuddled expectations of your mentor ABM, demanding that people offer an "imparital" defense of their position. (I'd like to see a defense attorney be impartial when he's stating the case for his client.) But shame on you for resorting to "ad hominem attacks and name calling". One would think you were trying to distract from the feeble rationale you offered for your colorist obsession. Bottom line, if I had said we need more "light-skinned" people in these professions, the phrase "shared experience" would never have entered you mind because you would've been too busy "disparaging" me. And, tell me, can one black person be guilty of practicing "racism" against another black person??? |
Lil_ze
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according to some of these posters, its only light skin black people who are guilty of practicing racism against other black people. i guess its alright for some posters to say things like, "its time to throw the light skin babies away with the bath water". and nobody says a word. but the second somebody says a word that is not "falling-down" with praise for a dark skin person, all of a sudden, its "light skin" people are practicing "colorism" and "racism" against dark skin blacks.
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Schakspir
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Kola: African men are the biggest whores in creation, and the Black American/Jamaican/Carib Male is just as misguided in their belief that unless you've got "ten bitches"---you're not a man.
Schakspir: That's funny coming from you, given your supposed track record. Alice Walker tried this script back 25 to 30 years ago, and it was getting pretty stale then. Ask your boss down at the ranch in Texas to come up with another lie. |
Schakspir
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Lil_ze, Kola is a fucking agent. Or wannabe agent. No reasonable, intelligent person anywhere believes what she is saying. They were laughing at her in the media when they profiled her book. On blogs she is routinely dismissed as a nutjob. Only the right-wingers take her seriously, and that's because they WANT to believe what she says about arabs and black men....not because it's true. |
Tonya
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Cynnique:
...shame on you for resorting to "ad hominem attacks and name calling.
Tonya:
So his telling me to take my chlorpromazine wasn't calling names? Insinuating that I'm schizophrenic wasn't name calling? Terming my reasoning "silly" and "pathetic" wasn't name calling? Claiming that I'm racist--WHILE "PLAYING THE RACE CARD"--wasn't name calling and, in his case, blatantly hypocritical????? If not: why, why, why and why? Because he said it in cracker creole English?? Puleeeze. If anything was “ad hominem” it was thaaaat twinkle toed Macaca.
Cynnique:
And, tell me, can one black person be guilty of practicing "racism" against another black person???
Tonya:
Well, I don't know, Cynnique. Why don't you ask your boy, Ntfs BECAUSE that's precisely what HE'S claiming.
And while you're at it, buy him and you a clue, too. |
Cynique
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Well, Tonya, if you are to abide by ABM's "rules", it apparently doesn't matter if others call you names. You should nobly rise above this, even if ABM himself doesn't practice what he preaches. After all, he called me a "hoe" and attempted to besmirch my sterling character, but then accused me of resorting to "ad hominem" acts and name-calling when I responded to you. tsk-tsk. Sounds like you need to get a new mentor; one who doesn't vascillate. Personally, I always thought ad-hominem and name-calling was right up your alley, and you didn't really need ABM's intervention. BTW, Ntfs used the word "racist" when talking about white behavior; you were the one who used it when talking about black behavior. |
Sohra
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So I suggest you tone down the racist accusations against black Americans.
racist???.. I DON'T hate afro american's ok my boyfriend is Afro american..ok... I HavE The right to say what ever I want.. FREE SPEECH.. |
Abm
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Tonya,
Tonya: "So his telling me to take my chlorpromazine wasn't calling names? Insinuating that I'm schizophrenic wasn't name calling? Terming my reasoning "silly" and "pathetic" wasn't name calling? Claiming that I'm racist--WHILE "PLAYING THE RACE CARD"--wasn't name calling and, in his case, blatantly hypocritical????? If not: why, why, why and why? Because he said it in cracker creole English?? Puleeeze. If anything was “ad hominem” it was thaaaat twinkle toed Macaca."
What you've described explains WHY I will avoid corresponding with Cynique.
Look. I don't expect any/everything that anyone expresses here to be validated by the Library of Congress or anything. But if someone presents an opinion based on something that at least appear to be backed up by scientific, empirical evidence, I find it intellectually dishonest and lazy to simply discard it without at least ATTEMPTING to tender a valid, SUPPORTABLE rebut.
And, you should have noticed by now, that when Cynique can't offer a valid rebut (which is almost ALWAYS the case), she'll say inflammatory things about (e.g., we're Kola's "stooges", I'm your "mentor", etc.). Next thing you know, you've become mired in these ridiculous exchanges of insults and barbs that have ZERO relevance to the subject at hand. And any credibility you may have once had is lost.
I'll often play around here. Say some off-color things. Take some jabs at overhyped celebrities, politicians, etc. But I've NEVER come here for the specific purpose of attempting to delegitimize another Thumper's Corner poster's opinion or position.
Sure I will debate. But I'll seldom squabble.
If anything, my opinions and positions have evolved some since I've been here. Why? I guess it's because, more than anything else I guess, I consider this a place to learn. |
Cynique
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I am amused at how ABM wallows in his righteous indignation, playing the victim role while villifying others, all of which is as myopic as his quoting Tonya's response to someone else, and then saying that her rant is why he doesn't correspond with Cynique. And the idea of this prig requiring that people supply foot notes and references and a bibliography for every opinion they expresss on this board is ridiculous. This is a cyber discussion site, not a meeting of the Freshman Debating Club. Everybody doesn't rely on the crutch of "studies" to challenge moot points. This is a free-wheeling forum and anything goes. That's what keeps it interesting. Sorry, ABM. You don't make the rules or set the standards here. So just continue to pout and sulk because people don't play the game your way.
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Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:49 am: |
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All:
First of all why would anybody get upset about what somebody else is doing? As long as YOUR man isn't running off with white women, what is the beef?
As to whether they will do it--yes. They are going to continue to do it. When they hold up the picture of the trophy wife, when they hold up the picture of America's sweetheart, when they hold up the picture of the Great Desirable or Unattainable she will be caucasian, blond, and blue eyed, with big tits and long legs--
Oddly enough a picture that depicts only a tiny minority of white women and then only when they are between 19-24 years old--
Look at some of them leatherfaces when they hit forty years old==
But I digress. You ain't gonna be able to stop it because most American males regardless of race think this is the Fairy Princess--
You ought to be glad they are going that way and not coming your way. In my experience, lots of them want them for the wrong reasons and wind up abusing the hell out of them--
Plus that most white women don't want a damn thing to do with a Negro when he ain't got nothing--so there will be plenty of black men for you--
This is the product of integration and so called progress--you want blacks to get ahead and then stay within their race when they get the big bonanza--
I think that, on the whole is better. But lots of black men--and WOMEN, don't.
A black woman here in St. Louis who was educated, in the media, et al openly made the statement that she did not want any black men because black men are weak among other things.
At the time I got mad at the sister but when I see these Black Conservatives (who almost ALL have white women) I wonder--
At any rate, don't trouble your heads about it. I know you will because for some reason Black Women keep wanting us to do right. They think they can change us.
This is America. You can't stop this. Those of you with sons I wouldn't make a big deal about it because if you do (Don't be bringin' no white women around here!) they are going to be creeping over there to find out what's so bad you don't want them to have, and if they are handsome, playing sports talented or look like they are going to make some money they are goners.
Keep an eye to see Ms. Jane ain't crawling up in your stall. |
Moonsigns
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MZURI --the smileys puking on one another is hysterical! You're too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Brownbeauty123
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"Plus that most white women don't want a damn thing to do with a Negro when he ain't got nothing--so there will be plenty of black men for you--"
I hear quite the contrary coming from Black male friends.
They say plenty of White women are OFFERING to spend their money on them--cause they "hear" us sistah's are nothing but a bunch of golddiggers--and driving them wherever they want to go in their car.
When at school, I've heard Black guys brag about how generous these White girls are and how they aren't materialistic and will "stick" with a brotha when he ain't got nothing--unlike Black women.
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Brownbeauty123
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I just don't understand why Black women get labeled golddiggers when SOO many Black girls I know put up with men who have nothing, and even use them. |
Abm
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BB123,
Perhaps there's little overlap and/or cross-sectioning of the men you describe and the women you describe.
Why there is none? You know better than I. |
Tonya
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Abm:
..you should have noticed by now, that when Cynique can't offer a valid rebut (which is almost ALWAYS the case), she'll say inflammatory things . . .
Tonya:
Honestly, yeah, I have noticed…since I've been here actually.
Abm:
Next thing you know, you've become mired in these ridiculous exchanges of insults and barbs that have ZERO relevance to the subject at hand. And any credibility you may have once had is lost.
Tonya:
I get that.
Abm:
Sure I will debate. But I'll seldom squabble.
If anything, my opinions and positions have evolved some since I've been here. Why? I guess it's because, more than anything else I guess, I consider this a place to learn.
Tonya:
Goodness. You are sooo in my head, Abm. Though I appreciate this board for many reasons, I love it for only one. I've learned so much since I started posting here. Now all I want to do is continue to learn. It's like an addiction, but a healthy one; do you know what I mean? Anyway, I hear what you're saying. The more I squabble, the less I learn. Gotchu. I really get that. Thnx. |
Cynique
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Tonya, you and ABM have really convinced yourselves that everything that you assert is the gospel because you are so enslaved to the printed word that it never occurs to you to question it. And it ain't like everybody on this board is just waiting for you to utter your gems of wisdom. Both of you get told off regularly by other posters. And I continue marvel at how you overlook the way you, yourselves, call people names and hurl insults at them. What a pair you two are. You deserve each other. LMAO. |
Abm
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Tonya,
Glad you hear what I'm coming from.
You know, the unfortunate thing about Cynique is that she's obviously a knowledgable person. And can be wittier than heck.
But, I mean, ENUFF already.
Really? Who wants to be constantly INSULTED during a debate and disagreement? At some point, it gets stale.
And. Yes. I've disagreed and even quarreled with others here over the years. But I've never gone to the point with anyone that any/all exchanging between us MUST consist of insults.
Who the hell wants to do THAT all the time?
The one great criticism I have of Kola here is she too quickly regresses and resorts to insulting her adversary. By doing that, she basically FUELS distracting, irrelevant rebuts to her most valid and worthy postitions. Sadly, a casual reader happens upon them and just see one biga$$ MESS, with HER appearing to be its primary instigator.
Though, to her credit, I've observe Kola doing less of that than she previously have done.
Again. I don't mind trading goodnatured barbs hither/thither. And I'm SURE I have often done such well PAST its merit.
But I've NEVER once viewed this as being some media of running others down and projecting myself to be somehow superior.
That's never has been and never really will be my desire or MO. |
Moonsigns
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 03:27 pm: |
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Brownbeauty:
"I just don't understand why Black women get labeled golddiggers when SOO many Black girls I know put up with men who have nothing, and even use them."
Moonsigns:
Black women being labeled "golddiggers" is a stereotype similiar to that of white women being considered "easy" (on many levels). Because men run shyt, I feel that some, if not most, will use stereotypes like this against (insecure) women in order to perpetuately maintain their relational dominance. Women do have a choice, though. That is why I don't feel sorry for women who get caught up in those stupid games.
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Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 03:30 pm: |
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Moonsigns,
Though I might agree the term are OFTEN unfairly used, there are women who are "golddiggers". And there are women who are "easy".
I would, however, argue that such women come in all colors, flavors and sizes. |
Cynique
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I hate to be a tattle-tale, Moonsigns, but your favorite person has accused you of being Lil-Ze. I find that so funny. I had a picture of Lil-Ze in my head, and then she had to go and blow it. So, fess up. Are you lil-ze? huh? huh? Say it aint so. |
Moonsigns
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Cynique,
You and I know I don't have the time or interest to be any other 'poster' than myself! But, in true fashion, I'll leave the wondering, bickering, and play-ground name calling to the idiots who do it best!
*wink*
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Moonsigns
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Abm:
"I would, however, argue that such women come in all colors, flavors, and sizes."
Moonsigns:
"flavors" --WTF? I won't even ask! LMAO!
Back to your response --what? Don't tell me you're prejudiced!!!!!!!! LOL!
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Abm
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Moonsigns,
Come on now. You grown.
You know what a brotha mean by "flavors".
And, yeah, I guess I might fancy some "flavors" more than I do others. I'll leave it to you (and your more intimate dreaming) to divine which I might prefer most. *wink* |
Moonsigns
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I'm just playin' --I do know what you mean by "flavors", and I know which one you "prefer" the most, too!
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Misty
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I for one would just like to see black women stop worrying about what race black men choose to date. although it seems there are more and more of us becoming indifferent to the situation but this isnt happening fast enough for me.
it makes us look desperate when there are BILLIONS of available men walking the globe to choose from...no woman in her right mind would be sitting up worried about such a small percentage of men.....it's plain crazy!! |
Kola_boof
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Well, Misty it's NOT crazy
if people come from customs/traditions
backgrounds.
This may come as a shock to you,
but there are millions of Black women
who want....BLACK BABIES. Which is only
natural...and they can't make those
babies with men of other races.
But since you're not fully black yourself,
(or I don't know what the fuck is wrong
with you)---you can't seem to wrap your
mind around something so natural and simple
as that.
I have made the same statement you just made
countless times---I have LIVED WITH a white
man for 5 years and dated many other men of
many other races. But in my heart---I still
longed for a Black man and to give birth to
my children, who for me--would have to be
black.
The vast MAJORITY of White, Chinese and
every other race----feels the same way.
So it's not crazy for Black women to feel
what comes natural to MOST humans.
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Abm
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Kola,
What I think is interesting is it seems the women in BETWEEN Black women and White women, Asians and Hispanics, who are more likely to and interested in NOT reproducing their own kind.
The STATS say Maria and Sun Yi are much more likely to mate and marry outside their own kind than are Holly and Deniece.
Care to speculate on WHY this disparity exist? |
Yukio
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abm: cuz though asians and latinos and latinas are ligther than us, they see marrying white folk as moving up. And they are, in general, more assimilable than we are, and their experiences with white folk has not been as intensily violent and dehumanizing as ours[while unfair to compare exploitations, besides Native Americans, I do think we have gotten it worst].
Africans too, from my limited experience, do not hate or dislike white folk the way african americans do...and they, at least the very educated, are quicker it seems to marry white folk than African Americans. |
Abm
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Yukio,
I suspect you're right. I guess physically and socially it's easier to go Brown/Yellow-2-White (and vice versa) than it is to go Black-2-White.
I recall reading somewhere as high as a THIRD of Asian American wives have NON-Asian husbands. And I think the % of Hispanic wives is in the low-2-mid 20%. |
Caprical
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actually native american women are the most likely to marry outside their race even more than asian women. over 50% of them ahve white husbands |
Abm
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Caprical,
Thanks. Though I failed to mention it, from what I have read, what you describe is true. |
Kola_boof
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70% of American Indians, Period, are married to White people.
Yukio
, out of 3 million African immigrants in America, less than 3,000 are married to White people. However...African women marry White more than African men at this time---and "West Africans" or people from "South Africa" are the most likely to marry interracially, with Ethiopians and Somalis the LEAST LIKELY to marry interracially.
Africans are more likely to marry "Black Americans"...which is seen as a major problem by the African communities/tribes....and African men raised in American society...are highly "Colorist" in choosing mates. Shockingly so.
Additionally, because of "tribal, lineage" problems, I seriously doubt that those Africans who have married white----did it "easier" than an AA would. An African marrying white will debate and anguish over far more issues than an AA ever would (mainly their children's authenticity), and further dwell on nationality and tribal custom.
In Kenya, there is a new practice of African fathers offering their daughters EXCLUSIVELY to European husbands in the newspapers for marriage. This was mis-reported in the west as "African women buying newspaper ads" for White husbands---but on African soil, there is no freedom for young girls to CHOOSE what man they want---their fathers tell them who to smile at, appeal to, etc. and their fathers will place ads in the papers seeking a "Black American husband" or a "European" in countries like Ethiopia and Kenya.
ABM
, where I live outside Los Angeles---we have one of the nation's largest LATINO populations and we also the nation's #1 largest Asian community (Vietnmanese, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Thai)------overwhelmingly, these Latino and Asian women are married to their own race and they are VERY MUCH like I am in their cultural forming of their children.
Yes--in Woodland Hills, Hawaiian Gardens, Newport Beach---all the Asian women are married to WHITE men in those sections....but they are also "Americanized", do not speak their cultural languages or dress as Asians.
But in the huge Asian community here, the women are traditional and increasingly provincial in their accultration of Asiatic influence. The LATINO women moreso.
More Latino MEN than females marry white, but still, their numbers pale in comparison to the number of AA men here who are married interracially. Almost ALL Latinos out here are with Latinos, though many of the latino wives have BLOND hair and from a distance---can appear white.
I would also say that Latino MEN "corner the market" on fucking Black women out here (as many BM don't want them)---but usually will not marry them. You see a LOT of gorgeous black women out here who can speak Spanish and are AA.
I have to say, however, that it's the LATINO MEN who pursue and chase the Black women---they are very sexist, romantically PREDATORY men IMO and far more aggressive towards BW than they are to Latina and White women. I have been stopped with my sons at a stop light---and a car load of Latino men will literally lick you down with their eyes and tell you how beautiful you are, how sexy and delectable--offer to pay bills (not that they will). In all my experiences in the UNITED STATES, I have never witnessed black females being persued any harder than I have by Latino males.
And at this point I'm glad, because it gives pretty young black girls the opportunity to "play hard to get" (as latino men won't say "fuck you bitch", but will try even harder) and be constantly told how beautiful they are. In the face of the "Mixie Interracial" black men's revolution in California, I'm glad we at least have that.
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Tonya
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Caprical, are you and "Misty" the same person?
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Misty
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kola,
let me just make it clear that when i say we shouldnt be worried about such a small percentage of men i'm not JUST talking about interracial dating (although i am including it when i make that statement). i'm talking about men period. Even if black women only choose to stick to black men there are tons of men to go around. There are black men from all over the globe (in brazil, africa (which is the largest continent in the world), the carribbean, southeast asia (all of the darker ones are black men they simply have a different hair texture and nothing more), the aborigines of australia...all of those places have huge groups of black men
even the philippines has its share of men of african decent, you can also see the african in samoans as well alot of them look straight up black...There are samoans with more afrocentric features than black Americans…..so my point is there are a multitude of black men to go around if black women stop focusing only on american black men and stop allowing the media to dictate how we feel and tell us we have no choices.
As a side note, we also need to stop allowing whites to dictate to us WHO is black and who is not black when we can clearly see that there are blacks in just about every part of the world you go to (but that's getting very off topic).
so if black women really feel we will have problems reproducing black children with non-blacks (which is something i myself don’t believe) we still have tons of choices because alot of people who are labeled non-black by whites actually ARE black and this is clear in their hair type and facial features.
Even for the black american women who just have to have an american black men, there are still enough black american men to choose from. 95% black american men who are married are married to black women. So to agonize over the few who date outside the race makes no sense at all.
black women should have no problems reproducing black children whatsoever if we open up our minds and stop allowing the media to convince us that no one wants us and that the only black men who exist exist in Africa and america.
and for those black women who have no problem finding men outside the race there are even MORE men to go around.
i just dont think that it's good for black women to sit up and agonize over what race black men choose to marry....It does more harm to black women to worry about this than to anybody. It causes unnessesary stress and feelings of worthlessness on the part of black women. This is part of why black women have the highest depression rate in america. We are the msot depressed women because we allow ourselves to be fed a bunch of bullshit lies and allow ourselves to sweat the small stuff.
We allow the media to put it in our heads on PURPOSE that we are a bunch of unwanted and rejected women and we believe it.
to obsess over black men going outside the race does nothing but feed into white supremist stereotypes about black women being bitter, jealous and ugly.
NO and i mean absolutely NO good can come out of black women trying to convince black men to "stick with us"...in fact its insulting that i would ahve to convince a man to stay with me...if he wants to leave let him leave why the hell would i want someone i would havbe to convince or guilt into staying with me...it means he's not with me because he loves me or is attracted to me but hes only with me because he feels guilty.
why would i want to BEG someone to stay with me? Again it makes us look desperate, unwanted and makes us look like we have low self esteem. |
Misty
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no, but i did notice caprical had posted my message before i reedited it....who knows maybe she was trying to respond to it |
Kola_boof
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Caprical/Misty,
I TOTALLY agree with this statement:
kola,
let me just make it clear that when i say we shouldnt be worried about such a small percentage of men i'm not JUST talking about interracial dating (although i am including it when i make that statement). i'm talking about men period. Even if black women only choose to stick to black men there are tons of men to go around. There are black men from all over the globe (in brazil, africa (which is the largest continent in the world), the carribbean, southeast asia (all of the darker ones are black men they simply have a different hair texture and nothing more), the aborigines of australia...all of those places have huge groups of black men
Wish you had put it like that before,
because I am a North African Egypto/Oromo
who mated with a Black Man from CENTAL AMERICA, from Belize, a full blood Garifuna man.
And the majority of my boyfriends have been
"Black American".
So I agree with you.
STILL
...for most INNER CITY Black women and most "nurses", "postal women", "teachers", etc.---they can only choose a man from the areas in which they live.
That is the reality. And though they can dream of Black men in other countries---their own pool of men dictate and drive their reality.
Again, as a Black woman who has dated WHITE, ARAB, LATINO and other men-----
----those men are NOT LIKELY to "marry" a Black girlfriend.
Those men sexually exploit black women, abandon and disrespect black women...just like black men do.
So it would be SMARTER if Black American Women began to pay a lot more attention to the SONS they are creating.
Because a SON is usually open to his MOTHER more than anyone else in this world---and if Black women would embrace their blackness and cut out their self-hatred, they would also begin to produce SONS who prefer and choose black women.
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Tonya
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That's a lie and you know it, Misty; but it ain't worth it so I'mma let it slide, lol. |
Kola_boof
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Caprical/Misty:
Even for the black american women who just have to have an american black men, there are still enough black american men to choose from. 95% black american men who are married are married to black women.
KOLA:
Though I agreed with your previous statement, THIS PART is bullshit-----because #1, you're ignoring the "Special Problem" that Black men have with Color/Hair texture---not just ANY black woman can go and choose herself a black man as you state, certainly not the India Arie, Kimberly Elise types....Black men have a "TYPE" of black woman who is acceptable for marriage (depending on his own status), and another "TYPE" that he will manipulate and "EXPLOIT" for sexual purposes---but people like you ignore that FACT.
Another glaring FACT is that MOST "Black males" do not get married---and Essence Magazine recently pointed out, though 95% are MARRIED to black women....30% of ALL BLACK MEN are dating/living with or Married To...NON-Black women. Many of them are with Black women at the same time,which causes the numbers to overlap.
And it remains that 43% of Black American girls WILL NEVER MARRY.
No other racial group is anywhere CLOSE to that percentage of their women being unmarried.
So how do you explain that???
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Abm
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Kola,
The enormity of what you're asking is that women make of their sons men that they themselves might never have of their own.
When you consider the country and zeitgeist of our times, it seems a sacrifice that, in truth, is so unfairly NECESSARY that it is almost nauseating to ponder.
And it's a sad irony that occasionally dawns on me...when I see my wife and mother together. |
Kola_boof
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But HARRIET TUBMAN and SOJOURNER TRUTH did it, ABM.
It can be done, goddamnit!!!
If it weren't for TUBMAN and TRUTH taking on the ENORMITY and sacrifice----and they did it when it was 1,000 times harder than it is today-----then you'd all still be slaves.
What kind of weak ass bitches can't produce children that adore and demand them?
The enormity of what I'm asking....HA!
That's small stuff.
But no--they'd rather write PETITIONS whining about the segregation on "SURVIVOR" or complain that some white folks didn't want them seated at a picnic bench.
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Abm
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Kola,
Well. I wouldn't be the first to suggest that perhaps the 'advantage' Tubman and Truth had were that there adversary was much more apparent and immediate.
I agree with you that a Black woman (and man) should be able to engender children who "adore and demand them". Perhaps where it gets tricky for many is who and what they expect "them" to be. |
Yukio
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Kola: Deep! |
A_womon
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the only idiot on these boards is you moonsigns/lilze ya stankazz loser! I know that it's a blow to your ego that ya stupid azz posted the same opinions using another dumb alias...
and she didn't need you to tell her nothing cynique you and her read every single post I put up! |
Cynique
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Yea, a-woman, just like you read every post moonsigns puts up. What would you do if you didn't have ol Moonie to hate. And it ain't like you don't respond every time I post something with your name in it. |
Moonsigns
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@ Cynique! And I think you were right many, many months ago when you wrote that she sits at the computer (paraphrasing) bugged-eyed and just waiting to pounce. LMAO!
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Ntfs_encryption
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”Shared experience, bitch. All you had to do was ask.”
Shared experience? And what might this shared experience be? What personal experience did you have that is shared by some blacks but not others? I’m asking now. Details please…..
”((("This silly and pathetic reasoning is the same mindset that white racists have used since the beginning of. . .")))
Debatable but, hey, let's just say that it's true:…..”
Duhhhhhhh???? It’s debatable that white racists have historically oppressed blacks because they believe somehow blacks are less capable because they are inherently inferior? You feel this is a subject that is debatable? I see. Ya know, if you would take my suggestions more seriously, much of this would not be so difficult if not impossible for you to understand. I have three friends who work in the medical and mental health field. I told them all about you and even presented them with a number of your posts. It was consensus among them after reviewing your disorientated ramblings and pathological obsession with the skin color of your fellow blacks, if you requested your treating physician for moderate to heavy doses of clozapine, risperidone or olanzapine, there would be a marked decrease with your cognitive dysfunction. Comprehending reality would be less of a struggle for you. Even though many of us on this board argue and fight each other, we are still a family and we do care about our members. We would all like for you to get better. We all support you Tonya and we all care about you. But you have to take your meds on a prescribed regular basis. Please consider doing so. Once you get on a committed and regular schedule of medication consumption, a light will come on in a dark room and life will suddenly be much bearable and clearer for you. And all these skin color demons in your mind will not longer torment and confuse you. Trust me….Please!
"how is your singling out black people by saying: "WE NEED MORE BLACK PEOPLE IN THESE PROFESSIONS PERIOD -REGARDLESS OF THEIR SKIN COLOR" any less racist than me singling out dark-skinned people for said purpose--SLASH--the white racist mindset?"
Well, once again, the challenge of reality perception manifests itself. The difference is simply this my dear –you called for more “dark complexioned” people to enter these professions. An exclusive group of blacks based on some strange and racist arbitrary standard you desire. I said we need more blacks –regardless of the hue of their skin. My concern is inclusive –it is a desire for all black people, dark brown, brown, light brown, yellow –whatever their skin color is, to establish more representation and work in these professions. <i>My interest also “includes” all of those who you exclusively desire.<i> Understand? But your color struck bigotry and racism allows you to focus on “one group” of blacks while my concern is for all black people sans silly skin color prerequisites. That is the difference.
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Ntfs_encryption
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"Plus that most white women don't want a damn thing to do with a Negro when he ain't got nothing--so there will be plenty of black men for you--"
Uhhhhhh…..having a white woman and having money is like relating a brick to a DVD recorder. There is nothing in common. To get a white woman, you don’t need money. I personally know of seemingly countless cases of white women with well paying jobs, home owners and professionals, who date Negroes who have nothing! A white female friend of mine who worked as a high level executive for Cox Cable with a six figure job, dated brothers who had nothing. She would give them cash money all the time. When I questioned her about his sad addiction, she really never had an answer. She took another executive job paying even more moneyand has a brother living in her house who does not work! He has no job! She doesn’t want him to work! They have been together for about three years now. He just stays at home and shops for groceries. THAT’S HIS JOB!
I knew another white woman who works in the cosmetic industry and has a very large income. She travels constantly to Rio, London, Puerto Rico, Paris, etc. She just bought a new 3600 square foot home, yet she dates brothers who have nothing. The last guy she dated (he had a job) worked for Intel as an engineer or some kind of technician. She wanted to marry the guy but he told her he couldn’t marry her because she was white and made more money than he did. He couldn’t handle the fact that her income was far superior to his. HE TOLD HER THIS POINT BLANK TO HER FACE. Yet she was bawling her eyes out about this guy. WTF???
Another white woman was an accountant, came from a very wealthy family, owned her own condo and dated thugs! THESE GUYS HAD NO JOBS AND USED HER AS A CASH COW! It was pathetic. Yet she had no problem forking over money to them. Why??
A Jewish friend of mine works a federal job and teaches part time at a university. Owns two homes and is madly in love with a brother that does not work!, He is 37 and has never had a steady job that lasted more than 6 months. AGAIN, THE MAN IS 37 YEARS OLD AND HAS NO RESUME AND HAS AN AVERSION TO WORKING. Yet she told me is moving from back East to live with her in San Diego. I asked how she felt about his phobia to work and she admitted that it was bad, but she could live with because he was good company and easy to get along with. I asked her if it bothered her that a 37 year old man refuses to work or even go to school. She replied,”Well….ummmm….not really. I mean, he really is a nice guy and it doesn’t’ really cost me anything thing since he is going to pay for his own cigarettes and beer”. I was stunned. THIS IS A TRUE STORY. I haven’t spoke to her since.
I could go on and on and on about white women with broke ass Negroes but this will suffice. And it never ceases to amaze me how a number of black women take some kind of cynical glee at black men who exploit and abuse white women. These same parasites would not hesitate for one second to abuse and leech off black women given the opportunity. It’s just they way they are. Race of the individuals is irrelevant. Bottom line: YOU DON’T NEED MONEY OR A JOB TO DATE WHITE WOMEN!
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Lil_ze
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ntfs, you are right about not having to have money to date white females. i can't tell you how many white females who have jobs, own homes, own cars, etc, that are involved with brothers who don't have a dam thing. im talking about professional white women that i have worked with, who when i have met their "man", ive almost fell over. some of these guys could barely put a sentence together. many of these guy just stay at the homes of these white females and do nothing. and it seems like these white females have no problem with it at all. many of these white women become pregnant by these guys who have nothing.
its seems like many black females want to know what you do for a living and how much money you make. but many of these white females couldn't care less about it. it like for them just having a black man is enough. good for those black men, i suppose. |
Brownbeauty123
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I been knew you didn't need money to date a White woman. |
Renata
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You people are so removed from the experiences of real black people that I wonder if you live in Idaho. The ghetto, section 8 housing...have you heard of those?
A bunch of BLACK women living in government housing with THEIR CHILDREN (they didn't get them alone and the kids don't have white fathers), and usually with their NON-WORKING MAN who's laying low so that he doesn't have to pay child support to her and a myriad number of other women he has children with/is expecting children with.
Maybe they didn't get that memo that you people got that black women ONLY date men with good paying jobs and expect him to pay for everything.
That's just a fucking lie black men tell themselves as "proof" that black women are golddiggers and ONLY white women will take them as is, so that they don't have to have anything to do with those women you leave in the ghetto with their children AFTER they've given her those children and lived with her and the kids RENT FREE for YEARS.
When you people find a moment to get away from the haven of rich white women who are coddling your asses like BABIES and not treating like men, walk down to the inner city and see what real black women who've accepted you out of jail/prison, with no car, with no job live like.
To many men, a woman who wants a man to have a job and prove himself RESPONSIBLE enough to have children with is a golddigger.
But when you find women who STILL don't care if you're responsible, have a job, are willing to care for your kids and she STILL lets you lie around the house all day dodging child support, you brand her a golddigger as soon as she needs help with the rent. And then have the nerve to turn her needs for help with YOUR CHILDREN against her and call her names.
Go to Jackson, MS, or Birmingham, AL or many of the small towns in MS or AL and find that the MAJORITY of the black women there have 2 or 3 children (or more), have never been married, have NEVER gotten one dime of child support, WORK AND STILL QUALIFY FOR PUBLIC AID, and their boyfriend is sitting in the next fucking room with no job and yelling about why his dinner isn't on time. These are your "golddiggers" who make you want to leave them for white women.
The ONLY difference I can see is that white women had FATHERS who left them with money to take care of trifling men, while black women didn't have that.
If you want to say, you just don't want to marry a black woman and you would much rather marry a white women, I REALLY DON'T CARE. Seriously. Feel that way.
But I'm not about to sit here and watch you FUCKING LIE on us and make us out to be some materialistic whores because you don't have the CAJONES to be man enough to just want what you want for your own fucking reason. |
Brownbeauty123
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Brownbeauty123
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That is one of the biggest lies about Black women is that we're golddiggers.
Where did this lie stem from? |
Schakspir
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That's been happening for decades....maybe, even, in the 19th century. Thank you, Slavery! |
Misty
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Kola
“STILL
...for most INNER CITY Black women and most "nurses", "postal women", "teachers", etc.---they can only choose a man from the areas in which they live. “
It’s easier today to find a man outside your region more than ever…all those women have to do is go on the internet and find a boyfriend if they don’t feel they can get a man in their area. My current boyfriend right now is from the internet and from florida. There are tons of relationships these days that sarted out on the internet. As I say if they weren’t so focused on one specific type of man it would be much easier for them to find a man and get married. Those women have more choice than they think yet they allow themselves to stay stuck in a shell. if they really wanted to find a black man or ANY man for that matter, they could. They simply arent using their heads.
"That is the reality. And though they can dream of Black men in other countries---their own pool of men dictate and drive their reality."
The men in your area don’t have to dictate your dating pool if you don’t allow them to.
“Again, as a Black woman who has dated WHITE, ARAB, LATINO and other men-----
----those men are NOT LIKELY to "marry" a Black girlfriend. “
I’ve only had 2 white boyfriends before and both of the ones I had proposed and wanted to bring me to meet their family(of course one was an asshole and the other is very sweet) . So I think this has a lot to do with the woman and maybe how she carries herself than it has to do with race. A man is a man period. The same men who will sue a black woman for sex will often use a white woman for the same thing without marriage. As far as Arabs and Persians I’ve had a Persian guy try to be in a serious relationship with me before as well (and he was from the UK) but I felt he was too young (he was 2 years younger than me) and I already have a boyfriend so I had to stop talking to him because he wouldn’t leave me alone about it. I simply prefer that a man be at least 5 years older than me.
so I just don’t buy that there are so few men of other races willing to marry black women...I also dont buy that there are so few black men willing to marry black women (maybe american black men arent willing to be married but black men outside america have a very high marriage rate)
as far as white men go, sure I doubt most white men would take a black woman as a wife however there still seems to be a pretty good amount that are open to marriage. However I think the dynamics between black women and white men have WAY more to do with black women than white men. First off there are a lot of black women simply not interested in white men for various reasons and then there are a lot of black women who are ashamed to bring their WHITE boyfriends around their friends and to meet their parents. That’s part of the reason me and my ex had problems I had problems telling my parents about him (and im really glad I never borught him around them because as I said he was an ass).
"Those men sexually exploit black women, abandon and disrespect black women...just like black men do. "
True but my point is this.... from my experiences, this idea that other races will only use black women for sex has been blown WAY out of proportion…
while there may be some truth to it I believe this stereotype has gone way over the top and is maybe onyl 5% true and 95% exaggeration..because this just hasn’t been my experience with other races of men.
Even some of the white men that ive known of who seemed only interested in sex had been either married to black owmen or in a serious relationship with black women previously. So its not always the fact that the womans skin is black a lot of this has to do with the fact that a lot of men are simply dogs.
Also even IF and (that’s a big if) it is true that other races will only use black women for sex just as much as black men, my only point is the more you open yourself up to other options the more likely you are to find a life partner. Simply put the more men you have to choose from the more likely you are to find the right one.
"So it would be SMARTER if Black American Women began to pay a lot more attention to the SONS they are creating."
Its true that its smart for black women to pay more attention to the SONS they’re creating. We should be more intelligent about molding our sons into the type of men we would want to marry or we would want to appreciate and respect black women but creating a good son and finding a husband or lover are 2 different things.
"Because a SON is usually open to his MOTHER more than anyone else in this world---and if Black women would embrace their blackness and cut out their self-hatred, they would also begin to produce SONS who prefer and choose black women."
This part if VERY true..
But im not going to try to convince a grown man to prefer me or to date me….if he doesn’t want me he doesn’t want me….I think more black women should take more pride in THEMSELVES than that. |
Misty
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actually, according to stats black women are more likely to marry a man who makes less money than them than ANY other woman of any other race.
so men who cvlaim black women are mroe likely to be golddiggers is either being completely false or delusional. |
Tonya
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"actually, according to stats black women are more likely to marry a man who makes less money than them than ANY other woman of any other race."
If this is true, why are we not calling black men "gigolos"--besides it being offensive--I mean, since your stats and Reneta's post seem to be the case.
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Misty
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yeah tonya, i read that somewhere about 2 and a half or 3 years ago. |
Brownbeauty123
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Misty, as crazy as it sounds a lot of Black women who are poor, and struggling don't own a computer or simply do not have the time to communicate with some man over the internet to find love.
A lot of people prefer the old fashioned way of finding love...like me, for example. I do not trust internet dating sites, and would never meet someone from over the computer its far too dangerous. |
Misty
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"Misty, as crazy as it sounds a lot of Black women who are poor, and struggling don't own a computer or simply do not have the time to communicate with some man over the internet to find love. "
Borwnbeauty
i almost forgot you had replied to this thread, sorry
what you say may be true but i dont understand why alot of these same women ahve money to spend on clothes and 200 dollars worth of shoes.
plus, you have to understand that most black people aren't poor and in the ghetto...most are middle class.
"A lot of people prefer the old fashioned way of finding love...like me, for example. I do not trust internet dating sites, and would never meet someone from over the computer its far too dangerous."
thisis true alot of people (especially blacks) are scepticle of this.....but in my opinion you jsut have to be able ot be a good discerner of people....people put on facades in real life anyway. Dating on the computer is jsut like what alot of women do when they give a man their nubmer the first day they've seen him jsut because he asked for it.
with online dating you also ahve to just be smart about it...doint meet the person alone when you first meet him...come with a friend or meet him in an open space for a long time until you get to know him well enough offline.
anyway, when you brought up the security issue it made me think maybe this is part of the reason alot of white women tend to be mroe liekly to marry than black women or have a partner......black women simply dont do the internet dating thing half as much as white women and women from inida. black men dont do this asmuch as white men either....blacks tend o be very old fashioned about things liek this.
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A_womon
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yeah cynique and what would moonsigns do if she didn't have your slave mentality throwback azz running interference and saving her dumb azz?? she is still lil ze and showed her racist azz on this board. As a matter of fact cynique you play the mammy role very well too well in fact maybe you really worked as a full time mammy to white kids instead of that postal job youre so proud of and just cant bear to give up that role? Sheesh! Go figger!
moonsigns bite my bugeyed ass! as a matter of fact both of you can suck my toe jam! HAHAHHAHA! *wink* |
A_womon
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cynique: hol'up nah moonsigns lil missy, lets ol mammy cyniquky lay face down in dishyeah shithole so's you can walk on across--I caint lets ol' missy step in dishyeah hole and get huh feets messed up! MMMM MMM Missy you jus' step yo feets right on toppa my head bone n' Ah'll just...gluub glub..eat...bubbbbllles... dis....shiiiiiitt.....glub..glub..glubblll..... |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5152
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 05:14 pm: |
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Yawn. Go back to re-writing your book, a-author, before I get my fly-swatter, which works pretty good on gnats, too. |
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