| Author |
Message |
    
Serenasailor
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 738
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 07:02 pm: | 
|
I was surfing the internet and I was reading were this stupid white man from Portugal was saying that Beyonce one of the most beautiful women in the world. And that she should be considered the standard of beauty for BW.
He also said that in Mozambique that the little Black girls there idolize her. He said that they were buying blonde weaves and bleaching there skin to look like her. I was a little disturbed by this. Has anyone else ever heard of this. |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 632
Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 01:21 am: |
|
”I was surfing the internet and I was reading were this stupid white man from Portugal was saying that Beyonce one of the most beautiful women in the world.”
Nothing wrong with that. That’s just his opinion. He’s entitled to it.
”And that she should be considered the standard of beauty for BW.”
Ok, well now he has crossed the line from personal opinion and preference to one of stupidity. Beyonce is who she is and should not be considered a measurement for anything other than herself. I have no use for the silly race baiting skin color hysteria surrounding this woman but as far as her being a standard of beauty for black women, that is absurd and ridiculous.
”He also said that in Mozambique that the little Black girls there idolize her. He said that they were buying blonde weaves and bleaching there skin to look like her.”
I’m not surprised in the least bit. I documented an article about this exact subject years ago but I can’t seem to reference it. But yes, as sad as it is, it is true
”I was a little disturbed by this. Has anyone else ever heard of this.”
Yep, and I agree with you. It is very disturbing.
Trend of African women bleaching their skin growing
For years, cosmetic products supposed to bleach the dark skin of African women have found an ever-growing market on the African continent. In some countries, like Mali and much of Central Africa, these dangerous products are reaching a popularity out of dimension.
Proud negritude is turned into an obsession to whiten in several parts of Africa, especially Central Africa, and among black women in the Western parts of the United States. According to the BBC, half of the feminine population of Mali is using creams to bleach their skin.
The phenomenon affects all social classes. Also poor women in Mali are set to use these "miracle creams", and if they do not have the means to afford products holding international standards, they buy creams burning the skin whiter and significantly increasing the risks of skin cancer.
Legally, these "beauty" products obligatory should be marked with "guaranteed without hydroquinon" as this chemical product caused a health scandal some years ago for its damage to the human skin, more concrete, it was proven to cause cancer. Hydroquinon is still allowed in Europe, if used in a concentration below 2 percent, but is totally prohibited in many countries, such as in Southern Africa.
The Malian government has been directing campaigns against this undesired expression of modernity, spreading "like an epidemic", but has been unable to influence the country's women, turning more and more to the bleaching creams to raise their social status. The practice has become so normal that women not bleaching their skin are exposed to criticism or even discriminated, demonstrating the strong, globalised message that "the white is good (beauty, power, status ...), the black is not".
Especially in Sahelian countries such as Mali and Mauritania, skin colour is connected to status or even to the more ancient notion of free and slave. Bleaching their skin, women can climb the social ladder based on these traditions. However, European influence, through colonialism, modern class differences and not the least marketing, has made the black-white / failure-success division broader. This is noted even stronger by black women outside Africa, where discrimination can be far more outspoken and aggressive.
Other explanations to the hunger for bleaching creams are that it is simply a trend of beauty. Like many American and European women are obsessed by their weight or wrinkles, an obsession in Central and West Africa is skin colour. "The trend may have started through racist ideas, but I do not think most women are conscious about that," Yamira Demba told afrol News.
|
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 397
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 04:39 am: |
|
africans were bleaching their skin LONG before beyonce was around. and so what if beyonce is the "standard" of beauty for "african-americans"? so what? should the standard of beauty for "african-americans" be people who look like the ones in the thread i started called "do these people look like black americans"?
i know this thread is just another in the never ending stream of "light skin people are not so beautiful" threads. but i figured i'd respond anyway. |
Sabiana
Veteran Poster
Username: Sabiana
Post Number: 72
Registered: 08-2006
Rating: 
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 12:31 pm: |
|
Lil_ze, No, standard of beauty should be measured by how one thinks of themselves. It's wrong that one woman of any race should represent ANY kind of beauty of that race. It's narrowminded.
One word. Eurocentricism.
The guy, entitled to his opinion, is only observing what he sees, (how he sees black people fawn over Beyonce, light skin, un-black features) and what that comes across as. He an idiot for judging an entire race, But is he wrong?
Which is why I can't stand Beyonce.
Which is why I can't stand Lil'Kim.
And whoever dons blond weaves and fakeness, screaming silently to young women you are not beautiful the way God created you.
This is not just a "Black" problem. It's a minority problem. Think about that for a while. |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 637
Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 03:00 pm: |
|
"It's wrong that one woman of any race should represent ANY kind of beauty of that race. It's narrowminded."
I like that. Thank you.
|
Nuuon
Newbie Poster
Username: Nuuon
Post Number: 4
Registered: 03-2006
Rating:
Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 08:48 pm: |
|
Beyonce's Slave Contract With A White Company FORCES Her to Be A
Fake Blonde
Most Black men do not understand the profound role that white men
play in promoting the "white look" that has become so pervasive among
Black female superstars. But research proves that the body's of most
of the Black female "superstars" are literally OWNED by white men.
Black female "superstars" have signed contracts that literally FORCE
them to be fake blondes.
READ ON:
Black folks (both men and women) have complained about the negative
message that Beyonce's fake blonde hair sends to young Black girls. But
very few are aware that Beyonce has LITERALLY sold her body (and soul) to
a white-owned company for $4.7 million.
BEYONCE KNOWLES: Her body and "white look" is under
the absolute control of a white cosmetic company. According
to her contract with L'Oreal, Beyonce MUST maintain her
blonde look. You can bet that most of the other Black-blonde
"super women" in entertainment (like Queen Latifah) have
signed similar "white-look" slave contracts.
The contact that Beyonce signed with the cosmetics company, L'Oreal (ain't
a damn thing REAL about the shit this company promotes OR Beyonce's look),
literally FORCES Beyonce to maintain her fake blonde hair for the time being.
Beyonce gave L'Oreal the right to periodically check on her to make sure
that her blonde "white look" is in working order at ALL TIMES.
Beyonce's contract gives L'Oreal the right to "color" Beyonce's hair to make sure
it stays blonde. The contract stipulates that Beyonce DOES NOT have the right
to change the color of her hair. And if she does WANT to change the color of
her hair, she MUST contact L'Oreal in advance and MUST NOT DO ANYTHING
TO HER HAIR until an "accomodation" is reached with L'Oreal.
Beyonce's contract literally says that Beyonce MUST "maintain her skin color,
shade and tone, hairstyle and hair color." Beyonce must give L'Oreal the heads
up on any changes to her body, "including any alteration to her hair."
HERE ARE SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE ACTUAL CONTRACT:
The last paragraph of page 2-3 of the contract, section 3, the contract reads:
"Contractor agrees to cause Artist [Beyonce] to cooperate in good faith so that
her hair will be of the adequate length and color before shoots and may be
colored and styled by Advertiser for the purpose of photography. . .
Hereunder. Contractor and/or Artist will notify Advertiser as far in advance
of concerts in North America or recording production (but not earlier than a
reasonable time period after Artist has been notified of same) of any radical
changes to her hair any concert tour may necessitate so that mutual
accommodation may be reached. If mutual accommodation cannot be
reached Contractor and Artist agree to extend the Term for a period of
time so that her hair will grow to an adquate length for commercial production.
Contractor shall cause Artist to maintain her hair in excellent condition and
agrees that Advertiser with with two (2) weeks written notice at times and
locations mutually approved may periodically monitor the condition of Artist's
hair. . ."
On page 7, in Section 10. Artist's Appearance,the contract reads: "Contractor and
Artist acknowledge that this Agreement is based in part on Artist's retaining
throughout the term approximately the same physical appearance and health and
warrant that Artist will use reasonable efforts to maintain the same in substantially
similar condition. As a courtesy to Advertiser, Artist will give notice of any substantial
change in her condition including any alteration to her hair.
On page 9, in the Section 11. Genera, the contracts reads: "Contractor and Artist
acknowledge that this Agreement is based in part on Artists retaining throughout
the Terms essentially her current excellent physical condition and beauty and
warrants she will maintain her skin color, shade and tone, hairstyle and hair color,
weight, etc., at their current condition.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE PAGES FROM BEYONCE'S "WHITE-LOOK" SLAVE CONTRACT:
This is the page (2) of the contract where Beyonce sells her body (and soul)
to a white company. The sellout starts in the last paragraph:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0818041beyonce2.gif
This is page 3, of the contract: the slave contract continues:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0818041beyonce3.gif
In page 7 of the contract, Beyonce must give prior notice before trying to change
her "white look."
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0818041beyonce7.gif
In page 9 of the contract, Beyonce agrees to maintain her current skin color,
shade and tone, hairstyle and hair color.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0818041beyonce9.gif
This is page 13 of the contract where Beyonce signs away her body to a white
company. Her father and manager, Mathew Knowles, co-signed:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0818041beyonce13.gif |
Tall_brother
Newbie Poster
Username: Tall_brother
Post Number: 24
Registered: 08-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 09:03 pm: |
|
Bayonce is fine doh. Stra8 up.
|
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 405
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 03:34 pm: |
|
nuuon, you told a lie when you stated that beyonce has to "maintain her skin color, shade, and tone". thats just NOT part of her contract, there is nothing in the contract that states beyonce has to maintain her "skin color, shade, and tone". thats just not true. how does a person "maintain" their skin color? i see beyonce's contract forbids her from going on a vacation and getting a tan. its ok to make a point in a thread. but don't lie and say something that is just not true.
|
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 1245
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 06:32 pm: |
|
LOL...since when was Queen Latifah a blonde? |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 928
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 06:33 pm: |
|
Lil_ze you will argue with gravity if given the right opportunity.
LOL The contract reads "her hair"...they don't know Beyonce is wearing a blonde wig?
Renata, in the Loreal ads her hair is a dark golden blonde. |
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 406
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 09:54 pm: |
|
brownbeauty, you might be right about me. but im correct in what i said regarding beyonce, and the comments made by nuuon.
brownbeauty, you wanna hook up for some fun?
love ya darling! |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 932
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 10:02 pm: |
|
Lil_ze I'm too black for you |
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 410
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
|
let me be the judge if you are too black for me. all ill need is a little taste. then i tell you if you are too black. just a taste.
come on brownbeauty, don't you want to contact me? ill give you my e-mail, then we can arrange a little something-something. |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 655
Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 02:17 am: |
|
"come on brownbeauty, don't you want to contact me? ill give you my e-mail, then we can arrange a little something-something."
Uh oh......... |
Nuuon
Newbie Poster
Username: Nuuon
Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: 
Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 09:28 am: |
|
Lil_Ze: Either you have a "lil" brain or you just didn't bother to actually READ the contract.
Okay, let me quote the contract itself, since you were so willing to TALK before doing your homework:
PAGE 13, PARAGRAPH I.
"Contractor and Artist acknowledge that this Agreement. . .warrants she
will maintain her skin color, shade and tone, hairstyle and hair color,
weight, etc."
There it is in black & white for all to see.
What say yee now, Lil_Z? What say yee now?
People, please don't be so blinded by celebrity
that you can't even see what is in front of your
own eyes. |
Tonya
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Tonya
Post Number: 504
Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 01:18 pm: |
|
PAGE 13, PARAGRAPH I.
"Contractor and Artist acknowledge that this Agreement. . .warrants she
will maintain her skin color, shade and tone, hairstyle and hair color,
weight, etc."
ISN'T BEYOUNCE'S MOTHER A CREOLE--A MEMBER OF THE CREOLE SOCIETY DOWN THERE IN TEXAS, NOT FAR FROM N.O., LOUISIANA? IF SO, BEYOUNCE'S BEEN ADHERING TO THESE TERMS OF AREEMENTS FOR THE BALANCE OF HER LIFE. 'LEAST NOW SHE'S GETTING PAID FOR IT. (LOL) |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 935
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 02:30 pm: |
|
It sounds as if Beyonce bleaches her skin, in order for the contract to demand that she maintains her 'shade and color'. Not unusual for Black celebs to fade their overall complexion.
Beyonce mom is a PROUD Creole. Recently, Beyonce even wrote & recorded a track praising her lightskin, and Creole background. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5026
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 02:44 pm: |
|
The contract doesn't mention "blond" hair or "light" skin. What seems to be expected of Beyonce is that she keep her hair luxurious, her complexion smooth and even-toned, and that she not get fat. In other words, they want her to maintain a glamourous image and looking glamourous allows a lot of leeway when it comes to hair and skin color. |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 936
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 04:41 pm: |
|
Beyonce has been a blonde and stayed one since 1999.
Blonde hair is her trademark--she has never been known to wear any other hair color but that throughout her entire career as a solo artist and when she was the lead singer of Destiny's Child--
in her Loreal ads her hair is ALWAYS bleached blonde--meaning that if the contract states that they want her hair in its "current condition" which is usually & ALWAYS BLONDE--than that's what they want of her "blonde hair"..
Under that wig, her natural hair is also colored blonde-usually for when she decides to slick her hair in a ponytail and attach a long blonde ponytail--see new video "Ring the Alarm"... |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5028
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 07:07 pm: |
|
Beyonce has not always been a blond! That's why when she went blond it created such a stir. I just saw picture of her in a magazine and her hair was medium brown. She changes the color of her hair all the time, even occasionally giving it red highlights. And it's not as if cosmetic companies don't like brunettes; Carmen Electra, Catherine Zeta-Jones and Halle Berry are proof of that. |
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 412
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 02:28 am: |
|
thank you, cynique. you have stated the true meaning of the words in beyonces'contract.
the words "maintain skin color", mean she will keep an even-toned, smooth, clear complection. the words in her contract mean nothing more. im glad some people are smart enough to understand the meaning of the words in her contract. |
Nuuon
Newbie Poster
Username: Nuuon
Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 03:40 pm: |
|
PAGE 13, PARAGRAPH I.
"Contractor and Artist acknowledge that this Agreement. . .warrants she
will maintain her skin color, shade and tone, hairstyle and hair color,
weight, etc."
Lil_ze, first you said there was no such wording in the contract and you
were adamant about that. Now you have changed your tune.
Furthermore, just a little fact about contracts:
Contracts are NOT designed to be vague, nor are they designed to carry
implicit meanings that are not spelled out. That's why this contract is
14 pages long and quite detailed. Legal contracts signed at this level
mean exactly what they say, no more and no less. Lawyers who formulate
million dollar contracts for big corporations don't play that. Even a misplaced
color or comma could change the entire meaning of a contract. If Beyonce's
lawyers were to come into court and claim "the contract REALLY means
even-toned, smooth, clear, etc." they would be laughed out of the court
room.
Let me spell it out for you:
No, there is nothing wrong with an endorsement contract, but the facts
are these: Beyonce is a fake blond and her contract calls on her to maintain
that fakery at all costs. She does not have the right to change her fakery
without permission. That's the essence of it all. Additionally, magazines
(like Vanity Fair) have been caught red-handed trying to lighten Beyonce's skin
via digital photography techniques. Beyonce is already "light skinned" so what
was the purpose in that? The purpose was to cater to a white racist "American
aesthetic" that promotes lighter-skinned people as "more beautiful." Lightening
skin with digital techniques and stooping to the signing of "keep your hair and
skin light" contracts bows to this type of mass racial programming.
The cosmetics company Beyonce signed with sells every imaginable kind of
hair coloring. So why must Beyonce stay blonde? She could have BROWN
hair and STILL be endorsing the company's brown hair color products, right?
But no: The company knows it could sell more blonde hair dye because
that's what young Black girls are programmed (via music videos, skin lightening
fashion magazines, TV and film) to gravitate to. And "blonde" has the convenient
double whammy of promoting a "light is more right" world view.
That's the "real" behind this deal.
Beyonce is a hard working, very talented young lady, who, with the help of her
manager father, has become a rich superstar. She has managed to stay away
from scandal, and, aside from the peroxide and hair dye, she appears to be
living a wholesome life. Most of us wouldn't mind having her for a daughter.
But baby gurl ain't perfect. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5039
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 05:47 pm: |
|
Go to a black high school, Nuuon, and walk down the halls and observe. How many blonds do you see? The average young black girl is not dying her hair to emulate Beyonce. What they are doing is buying her records. This is the primary source of our vast fortune, along with her clothing line and movie career. Beyonce is hardly enslaved to Lorel.They sought her out, she didn't seek them out. They need her more than she needs them. |
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 416
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 05:59 pm: |
|
nuuon, the point is beyonce is not required to keep her skin a "certain" color. thats the point. beyonce has fake blond hair. so what? the company she has a contract with sells products to color your hair with. so of course they would want their spokes person to "maintain" a style that highlights their products. so what if its blond
black girls are not programmed to gravitate toward blond hair. light skin black people EXIST. so what if her hair is dyed blond? "light is more right" is being promoted as a world view? evidence please? |
Nuuon
Newbie Poster
Username: Nuuon
Post Number: 7
Registered: 03-2006
Rating:
Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 08:44 pm: |
|
Cynique: I'm an educator, I teach in 'Black' high schools and run programs for young folks. If you don't see the prevalence and power of the fake blonde and the constant ridicule of "dark skinned" children, than I assume you haven't been in many 'black' high schools yourself lately. Try a thorough review of the topics and posts at any Black message board or some of the posts on this very same website for more on this subject. Or perhaps you should spend an hour watching music videos on BET. You might even want to review the pieces published in ESSENCE magazine over the past 20 years-- You'll have no problem finding articles on the subject of "light skin vs dark skin."
Lil_ze: "So What?"
The answer to your question was provided in my last post. I invite you to read it again-- this time with your thinking cap on. I DO find that when SOME folks are presented with information that they find disturbing, discomforting, or which collides with their own political or social sensibilities, they respond with either anger, feigned indifference, or they pretend they don't know what they really DO know.
"Evidence" for the "light is more right" syndrome?
Okay, you haven't been living in America for the last 50 years, so you don't know. That's cool.
Try this on for size: Why did the editors of TIME magazine deliberately "darken" O.J. Simpson's photograph when they placed it on the cover of their magazine? Why didn't they leave it untouched, or why didn't they "lighten" his photograph instead? Hmmm. . . Maybe it's because white Americans consider "dark" figures more appealing? Right! And Black girls are still picking white dolls over Black dolls 50 years past the time when this experiment was first done because they believe that Black is "more beautiful?" And what about all those "blonde" actresses that get all the leading lady jobs in Hollywood? This has NOTHING to do with "light is more right" social programming? What about the old (and very successful) hair dye commercial that had the hook: "Is it true blondes have more fun?" Do you remember that? Perhaps you are too young: ask your mother about it.
Okay. . .
And your point that Beyonce is NOT required to keep her skin a "certain color?' Again, I invite you to re-read my last post with your thinking cap on. Especially the part about how million dollar contracts are written. Multi-million dollar contracts say what they mean-- Trust me: Beyonce's father (an old school master manager) would never sign a vague contract. That's why he and Beyonce are rich.
I think ya'll are at the point now of grasping at straws, so I will leave the many people who are reading this topic (but not posting) to make up their own minds.
|
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 6331
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 08:57 pm: |
|
My teen daughter and I were watching a Beyonce video just a few minutes ago. I forget the name of the song (Hell. I seldom know what they are.).
What struck me as I watch the video was in how some segments of it she looked very much like a blond White girl. It was kinda startling, actually.
And even my daughter, who's a Beyonce fan, was kinda surprised by that. |
Nuuon
Newbie Poster
Username: Nuuon
Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 09:37 pm: |
|
Slight Return (as Jimi Hendrix used to say):
"Evidence" for the "light is more right" syndrome?
Here is a reprint of an article that was posted on this message board by Ntfs_encryption back in January of this year.
Black Women and Blonde Hair
Black Honey
Cocoa Lounge
Where do I start?
The Black woman’s obsession with blonde hair has reached new and frightening proportions. Walk down the streets or just take a look in any Black fashion magazine and you’re bound to notice an array of Black women sportin what Blacktown calls “piss colored hair”.
Now ordinarily I would have no problem with this as I was a blonde once myself, but as I dig into the reasons why Sistah’s won’t let this trend go, I become upset and disgusted.
Make no mistake about it, Sistah’s are going blonde to imitate the white women they know Black men desire, but that is no excuse.If we are to call ourselves proud and strong Black women, then we must look like ourselves and act like ourselves.Imitating white women not only makes us look like fools, but keeps white supremacy going as we continue to show and teach our people that white is not only right but more desirable.
When I open a magazine today I am stunned at the lengths Sistah’s are going to to attain the look of white women and with absolutely no shame to their game.Long, straight, flowing down to their ass weaves are not the exception anymore but the norm.From Beyonce to Remy Ma to Mary J, blondest blonde is clearly the look of the day.
Now, I am sure many will scream that it is just a choice and Sistah’s can do as they please and going blonde doesn’t mean they wanna be white or look white.I on the other hand know better because I am not an outsider looking in and judging but rather a Black woman and thus I know why we do what we do.
Whether we will openly admit it or not, we are indeed attempting to emulate the look of white women because sadly we know that this is what our men like.They like long straight flowing hair and that is why we straighten ours.We also know light hair is more attention grabbing and desired amongst all men of all races and that too is why we lighten ours, as do most women, white women included.
However, the extremes we go to to attain this look only ends up screaming to the world how self hating we are.Mary, Beyonce and Remy are just a few of the Sistah’s who have gone extreme blonde and extreme long.And it doesn’t stop at hair color.Each of these ladies have been known to wear a contact or two in their day as well.Remy Ma… totally losing her goddam mind actually sported blue contacts, as did Lil Kim.What excatly is the world suppose to think when they see a Black woman with artificially straightened, fake blonde hair down to her ass with blue contacts?
I really don’t think we are grasping the enormity of what we are doing.I don’t think we really know how we look to the world, our men or our children.I think maybe, just maybe if the Black woman said “screw Black men” and instead did what she pleased with hair, then maybe they would have no choice but to accept it.
Maybe if we didn’t obsess over our hair so much in front of our your children, they wouldn’t either.Maybe if we loved our locks our sons and daughters would grow to love them as well.Maybe… just maybe, if we loved ourselves that would be the fashion trend of them all.
|
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 422
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 10:27 pm: |
|
so with all that you have said nuuon, my question is what do you plan to do about it? people can dye their hair any color they want. whatever their motivation for doing it is, its their right. is it "black women" who are attempting to emulate the looks of white women, or is it those "INDIVIDUALS", who are attempting to do this? you (nuuon)once had blonde hair, now you are attempting to shed "light" on something you once were involved in.
"sistah's are going blonde to imitate the white women they KNOW brothas desire". again sweeping foolish generalizations made, with absolutely NO evidence to back-up those statements. black men desire white women and black women know it? gee, the last time i checked MOST black men were married to or in relationships with black women. how do black women KNOW black men desire white women? has every black woman questioned every black man, in order to fin out who he desires?
you (nuuon) stated that you work in black high schools, and you see constant ridicule of "dark-skinned" children. well i don't know where you have been, but ive usually see the light skin children be ridiculed, not the other way around. light skin black people are many times the object of ridicule on the part of other black people.
"maybe if black women said screw black men, and did what they want with their hair....." so i see "black men" are somehow involved or to blame for black women coloring their hair. very intelligent.
i still am waiting for an answer to the question, "what is anyone going to do about this "alleged situation"? sure there's been years and years od pontification about "light skin/dark skin" blah, blah, blah, blah. light skin people are not going anywhere. so what do you (nuuon) or anyone want done? a law that says black women can't color their hair? maybe a law that says "B.E.T." must have 5 dark skin females on the network for every 1 light skin female?
black people are not monolithic, one black woman sees some people on "B.E.T", and all of a sudden "black people" are all (or most) taking part in this type of mentality. if some (a minority) black people are doing "xy and z", it does not mean that all or most black people are doing these things. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5041
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 10:42 pm: |
|
What is the big thing about BLONDS???? How many natural blonds are there in America? Bottle-blonds are a dime a dozen and always have been; this is a preference that transcends race and ethnicity. Where is it written that black woman can't change their hair color?? Is it a case of this not being natural? Puleeze. As if hair is the only instance where women indulge their vanity. And why shouldn't black women be free to enhance their appearance if they choose to. It doesn't seem to occur to these sulkers who get bogged down in this "self hate" issue, that if black women didn't love themselves, they wouldn't be doing what a whole lot of other females in this country do: cultivate a "look" that turns heads. At least they aren't all caught up in the plastic surgery thing like "self-hating" white women are. BTW, I have seen pictures of Beyonce in 3 different magazines this week and her hair was sable brown. As for her color, what is she supposed to do about it? It ain't her fault if she's light-skinn-ed. Scuse me while I go worry about an asteroid slamming into earth. |
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 424
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 12:52 am: |
|
cynique, i think you make too much sense for most of the posters on this board. i guess people want beyonce to become darker, then they won't have beyonce to complain about anymore.
ive seen beyonce with different colored hair also. and she looks good.
its interesting, white women dye their hair blonde and different colors all the time. but as soon as a black female does the same thing, it becomes a matter of "self-hate", "light is right", "imitating white women" etc,etc.
hey newsflash, women of all ethnicities like to alter or change their appearance. it does not mean that they are emulating or trying to "become" the women who possess these looks. what are white women who dye their hair blonde t4rying to become? black women are allowes to dye their hair any color they want to. people need to stop reading so much into simple style changes. |
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 1246
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 07:59 am: |
|
let's see them bitches rock an afro wig. Then we'll truly see how much they only want a change. |
Tonya
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Tonya
Post Number: 518
Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 09:42 am: |
|
"Beyonce mom is a PROUD Creole. Recently, Beyonce even wrote & recorded a track praising her lightskin, and Creole background."
I always had a problem with her image but I was cool with Beyounce until recently when I found out her mother is a Creole. I say this because remember not too long ago when people were complaining about how the darker skinned (original) members of destiny's child were dumped and treated? Well...rumor had it that they were dumped because Beyounce's people had a problem with their color. I chose not to believe it though because at the time I wasn't all that familiar with colorism and I thought the notion that black folks could be that racist was too damn wild. I figured her mother & father, two GROWN black folks, would never do no shit like that. I was one of the few people that didn't have a beef with Beyounce back then because I refused to believe that it was true. I just could not fathom that black folks--grown ones at that--would behave that way. But, now, knowing that her mother's a damn Creole, it's not that far from the truth. I'm starting to think twice about it now. And you say she's about to make a Creole song?? Ain't that some muthafuckin bullshit!?!?! |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5042
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 02:34 pm: |
|
Kelly Rowan is not light-skinned and she wasn't booted out of Destiny's Child. According to rumors, the other 2 original members didn't like playing second fiddle to Beyonce and they also accused Beyonce's now-estranged father of harassing them. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 6332
Registered: 04-2004
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 03:01 pm: |
|
I know this is SHAMELESS. But I couldn't RESIST!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
MISS JONES VS. TINA KNOWLES: Hot 97 jock suspended for two weeks after dissing Beyonce’s mama…to her face.
(August 30, 2006)
*The latest Hot 97 drama with Miss Jones (every month there’s something) occurred last Friday during an encounter with Beyonce and her mother, Tina, which resulted in the host being suspended for the next two weeks.
A longtime critic of the singer, Jones was asked by management to leave work early to avoid any confrontation with the Knowleses, who were visiting another radio station in the same building to promote Beyonce’s upcoming album, “B’Day.” But a time mixup caused Jones and the Knowles camp to come face to face in the hallway.
In a nutshell, Beyonce shook Jones’ hand and tried to give her a Hollywood kiss on the cheek. Jones, in the words of one of the jocks, gave Beyonce "the Heisman" and said she doesn’t do kisses. Beyonce accepted it and moved past Jones, but her mother wasn’t able to hold her tongue.
According to Envy, Tina said: "I just wanna thank you for talking about me and my daughter everyday while you’re on the air. It just boosts her ratings."
Jones reportedly fired back: "Actually you should thank M.A.C. makeup for hiding all that oldness you have on your face. Now you look like the joker."
Hot 97 responded by promptly handing Jones a two-week suspension.
http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur28332.cfm |
Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 3156
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 03:14 pm: |
|
What a frivalous bitch, Ms. Jones is.
I'm not happy with Beyonce OR her mother---but it's absolutely ridiculous to sit up and talk negatively about somebody everyday just because you yourself craves attention.
It's not like Ms. Jones has any "serious" causes (God knows she could use her position to do so much for the community)---other than fishing for people to laugh at comments she thinks are "cute".
Because it's supposedly "cute" for hackneyed Black women to publicly attack other Black women every chance they get.
In truth, Ms. Jones is just a shallow stupid hag no better than Beyonce. In fact---AT LEAST Beyonce has talent.
I really don't like the fact that she was ingracious when Beyonce tried to greet and kiss her.
That really ticks me off, because I notice these women revel in "playing" a bitch----when the truth is, they really don't know what a bitch is or how to be one.
A REAL bitch would have hugged and kissed Beyonce and made a witty comment dismissing and acknowledging the child all in one fell swoop.
A REAL bitch...rarely lets it be known that she is one.
Black women and their recent lack of Mama-style and panache is really quite disappointing.
|
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 6333
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 04:49 pm: |
|
Kola,
*swoon*
You are one bada$$ "B*TCH", babe.
And I mean that in the BEST possible light. 
Btw: By attempting to take the high road, Beyonce showed up Jones (and even her mama). |
Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 3159
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 10:15 pm: |
|
HA HA!!!!
Thanks, King.
And yes...Beyonce really has a good heart I believe.
She's just caught up in the same system that we all are--and like Mary J. Blige---she very INNOCENTLY "boomerangs back" to us....the self-destructive pretentions that inform our community.
She's being what she thinks "the people" want her to be.
I detest her image and I consider her to be "niggerstock" (as I teach my sons)...but I also love her very much.
|
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 940
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 11:32 pm: |
|
In every single video of Beyonce her hair is damn near PLATINUM BLONDE.
Name ONE video where she is NOT blonde. You can't. Find one album cover of hers where she is not blonde--you can't. Count the number of performances she's had brown hair AND the number of performances she's been blonde...you will see that she's been blonde far more.
Ask any child to describe Beyonce and I bet you they will describe her as being lightskin with BLONDE hair..
|
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 941
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 11:37 pm: |
|
Kelly Rowland was not kicked out of the group because she was adopted by the Knowles--legally she is Tina and Matthew's child.
She wasn't going to leave because the Knowles were her meal ticket, and her savior from poverty. And she's been programmed to play second fiddle to Beyonce for life it seems.
|
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 428
Registered: 01-2006
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 11:44 pm: |
|
hey smart posters, beyonce IS light skin and she does have (dyed) blonde hair. so where is the big revalation in a child describing beyonce as "light skin with blonde hair"? thats how beyonce looks. so what if she has platinum blonde hair in EVERY video she's ever been in? where's the problem?
kola boof if you consider beyonce "niggerstock". then i consider YOU "ugly african-animal stock". you are so jealous of our women its insane. light skin females are not going anywhere. so you better get used to seeing them, "ugly african animal stock". |
Lil_ze
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 429
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 11:47 pm: |
|
oh i see, so if kelly was not a part of the knowles family (by adoption or whatever) she would have been kicked out of destiny's child, because she is too dark? do you people really think that the members who were kicked out of destiny's child were kicked out BECAUSE they were too dark? give me a break. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5043
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 01:31 am: |
|
Performers are alway over the top in their vidoes, Brownbeauty. Just what do you call blond? If you watched the MTV awards show Thursday, you would've seen Beyonce perform and her hair was not blond. It was sandy brown. In any case, Beyonce doesn't need me to defend her. Whatever color she chooses to dye her hair is her own business. |
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 1254
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 10:23 am: |
|
I don't care if people need a change....it's only that they seem to change in one predictable direction. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 6339
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 10:44 am: |
|
Cynique,
Beyonce has GREATLY benefited from making herself a public figure. She exacted great fame, fortune and myriad conveniences that most people will NEVER know.
But part of the COST of one makings one self a public figure is one's elicit opinions and commentary about one's self by myriad other people that can be uncomplimentary.
Foks ragging about her blond hair is the cost of Beyonce doing business where and how she does it. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5044
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
|
Thanks for the "myriad" explanations as to why Beyonce has to take the good with the bad, ABM. heh-heh |
Moonsigns
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1427
Registered: 07-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
|
Haters -- keep on hatin'!!!!!!!!!
Beyonce's light brown hair with blond highlights looks amazing because it absolutely compliments her skin tone! She is like a sun-kissed goddess! Not too many women, white or black, can touch her beauty! Physically, she's the shyt --all the way around!
Just check out her new photos on her site!
|
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 956
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 09:26 pm: |
|
She got that bread.
It takes money--$65 million--to LOOK like that...
with a $3500 lacefront pure European Remi wig made out of the FINEST lace.
ABM, your daughter mentioned that she looks like a White girl now--she does because she's wearing virgin European hair.
|
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 5063
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 11:25 am: |
|
How do you know this, Brownbeauty? Is it because you've priced these wigs and are saving up to buy one? Oh, I forgot, you are brown and this is considered dark and you are undoubtedly poor and deprived. |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 960
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 12:27 pm: |
|
Truthfully, I am a expert on weaves/extensions/wigs. I buy some from overseas myself. And I know how much lacefronts/weaves/invisible strands cost.
|
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 961
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 12:30 pm: |
|
The quality European hair she has on her wig is not easily attained. But with her money and resources anything is possible.
Those wigs can make a big transformation in a person's appearance a la Beyonce. TThat's why she looks more mixed than she used to years back. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 6364
Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 02:25 pm: |
|
BB123: "ABM, your daughter mentioned that she looks like a White girl now--she does because she's wearing virgin European hair."
Really? How do that produce that?
Via shaving it from the heads of 5 year old Swedish girls? |
Moonsigns
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1428
Registered: 07-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 10:03 am: |
|
Even though her hair is a weave (and it's a tad too long for my personal taste), it looks more believable on her than say someone like Serena Williams (who is infamous for wearing way too long and unnatural looking orangy-blonde weaves). Which is proof that, there are women who can "buy" hair like that --but still look like shyt! |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 964
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 10:21 am: |
|
ABM, women cut off their hair and sell it in other countries so manaufactuers can make wigs/weaves. Far more Indian women do it than European (their hair is usually grows very very long & thick)--that's why pure Euro hair is much harder to get your hands on to.
Moonsigns,
That's only because she's wearing a hair color that is not custom to her own appearance.
I've seen Serena wear the same expensive type lacefront (thin skin wigs) in a darker color with highlights that gave her the same effect as Beyonce. If she were to get a wig, that was dark brown in a kinky curly texture she'd look so exotic and gorgeous.
I do agree, that she needs to step away from the blonde. |
Robynmarie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 142
Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 11:34 am: |
|
I just watched Beyonce's "Deja Vu" video with Hova. I don't get why people are hating on B. Yeah, she rocks blonde hair, but so what? She's a talented, energetic black woman, physically fit, with a black boyfriend. She is in show biz folks, the goal is to be as outrageous as possible. Beyonce is way more talented than pretenders like Jo-Lo, Madonna and Britany Spears.
Do people think Beyonce is trying not to be black or something? The problem I have with B is she refuses to stop wearing fur. Very insensitive, IMO.
BTW, Serena is also the bomb (when her hair is hooked up, right.) |
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 1256
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 11:52 am: |
|
Some Hindu sects have festivals where they go to the temple and cut ALL of their hair off....that's what's being sold here. Israel is in the process of trying to get Indian hair banned for Jews...as it's cut for a Hindu deity, it's not "kosher" for jewish women, and they should instead buy European hair.
(shrugging at why black women feel the need to wear ANYONE else's hair.....barring injury or illness, it's not that difficult to grow our own) |
Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 3196
Registered: 02-2005
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 12:57 pm: |
|
Robynmarie,
Do women like you EVER consider what these "white" images of Beyonce do to little black girls and their self-esteem?
Beyonce looks more like a Latina, like SHAKIRA, like a white woman---------than like the energetic black woman you describe.
And that look is not to be "outrageous"---it's to sell out her own heritage and look---to become rich and successful off of what's more acceptable...
...though strangely enough, Aretha Franklin, Natalie Cole, hell Diana Ross---became megastars without EVER parading around in "White Girl Drag".
But Beyonce wants to "transcend race"...to be ACCEPTABLE.
Which is how little girls start "skin bleaching", ROBYNMARIE---wearing blond weaves and claiming any heritage but their own. To be more acceptable like Beyonce.
Nothing about Beyonce's IMAGE upholds, promotes or even acknowledges "Black" womanhood.
And when Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, Serena Williams and others constantly wear fake eyes or sew mountains of long blond weave in their heads----imitating and ADVERTISING the White woman's beauty as "superior"---------they send a powerful message to not only little black girls...but also little black BOYS.
That message is: "I am inferior. Don't choose me. I don't like myself."
Robynmarie,
Do you ever think about the shit you do in front of your children?
Do you think about HOW EXACTLY black kids come to choose white dolls over black dolls???
Do you understand that WE OURSELVES affirm "whiteness" daily for our children----but teach them to HIDE their god-given African hair and looks by refusing to be shown with African looks?
Do you see how we TRAIN our sons to believe that White women are superior???
Are you really so damned STUPID that you think Beyonce's image is just "show biz" and has no effect on the millions of Black children who watch her every move?????
When 1 million 14 year olds look up to Mary J. Blige and everything she does------you don't think it matters that she NEVER wears her own hair, 80% of the time wears fake blue eyes, is always posed up in a photo like some niggerstock imitation white woman.
And I LOVE Mary.
Love her to death.
These are beautiful
PHOTOS....
but what is this telling
your SONS?
And why should they
settle for an IMITATION
when they can get the
real thing---that YOU been
promoting like some tireless
ass kissing legion of MAIDS.
BLACK WOMEN....are some dumb
fucking chattel, and that's no
joke and it's no exaggeration.
BLACK WOMEN are more "STUPID" than
strong.
|
Robynmarie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Robynmarie
Post Number: 143
Registered: 04-2006
Rating:
Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 01:51 pm: |
|
Kola-I guess I don't see how Beyonce is "selling out her race?" Beyonce is a throwback to Josephine Baker (would post a pic of JB soon as I figure out how)in her costuming, dancing, and and hair. All B needs are the feathers. I admire Beyonce's representation of being physically fit, particularly since many of our young girls are overweight. I agree that in order to sell as many records as possible, the image-makers have "homogenized" B, so that she can "crossover" to a variety of audiences. That's marketing, not race-trading.
I also think Fantasia is a fantastic role model, and she too has many fans among teens. Fantasia is straight out of the projects, a teen mom, beautiful and talented. Sixty-five million people voted for Fantasia as an "American Idol." If Fantasia decides to perform half naked, the way B does, it will be because sex sells.
If African American parents were telling their daughters, as I told mine, that she is beautiful, valuable, smart and talented, regardless of her skin tone, our daughters would believe.
Unfortunately, too many parents allow television and movies and magazines to raise their childeren. The problem is there isn't a diversity of images in show biz, so we end up seeing the same type of woman over and over. That's not Beyonce's fault. Don't hate the player, hate the game. |
Moonsigns
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1429
Registered: 07-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 02:14 pm: |
|
One thing I've learned on these boards is, not even "black" people agree on what is and isn't "black". But if we are going by Kola's standards, Beyonce is representing her "race" perfectly. Afterall, she has a truly "mixed" (Creole) backround. And, for that reason, she can wear various shades of blond highlighted hair very well!
As far as Mary is concerned, she doesn't look "mixed" at all --that is why I think blond hair on her, though I really couldn't care less what she does, doesn't compliment her as well. But she is an attractive woman!
|
Moonsigns
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1430
Registered: 07-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 02:26 pm: |
|
Brownbeauty,
I've seen Serena wear various weaved styles. And the brunette shades look 110% better on her than the blond shades. I would also like to see her go with a curly style. I think it would look more natural, but I also don't like bone-straight hair either. I never have. When it comes to hair, regardless of the race of woman, I like volume! On black women, I love afros, twists, braids and locs (and locs when they are set with rollers)!
At first glance, I don't think the William sisters are very attractive --not like Lauryn Hill, India or Kenya Moore, but there IS something very pretty about them that shines through when they begin to speak. They seem to be very geniune, kind and intelligent. Many times, an average looking woman with a sweet disposition is more attractive than a drop-dead gorgeous woman with a mean spirit!
|
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 965
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:40 am: |
|
Robynmarie, it's Beyonce's JOB to stay physically fit. And this hasn't had not one effect on Black girls--they're still more overweight than ever.
You seem to think that whatever gives you the most $$$, you're a-okay with it. |
Ijustlove_musiq
First Time Poster
Username: Ijustlove_musiq
Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
|
First to address beyonce. She was always light skin. Yes it does seem from time to time she does get lighter but that is her on problem. She still embraces her curvy body and her R&B music. I personally don't feel she represents me, I don't think any artist represents me nor should they have to. Now on to black people. I am full "black" woman but I am always accused by other black people because I act/talk too white. It seems to me everytime a black person doesn't fit a certain mold society has created, they get negativity. Just because I have a light voice or hang out with white people I am no longer black? Please! A lot of times when black people start to get successful other people want to say untrue things. Black is black, I think we should be happy for each other success. This kind of attitude is what is keeping us down and will continue to push us downward |
Email This Page