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Brownbeauty123
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't see it. He seems very gentlemanly, and intelligent. Maybe that often gets mistaken for being "feminine" or gay. But usually I have good gaydar. I don't see it with him.

There has been rumors circulating, but who hasn't been accused of being gay? He's straight







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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 03:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unless you're in a relationship with a person, you would have no way to know. And even then, you still don't know. And what this boy has to do with the Black community is beyond me. Your posts are getting lame.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 04:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know Mzuri, you can always just not respond like I've done to quite a few of your threads during the Cliff/Jamalgate
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BB123,

Don't worry, babe. Chances are Wentworth's more bi than gay.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 04:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brownbeauty 123 to HAG-atha:

I don't know Mzuri, you can always just not respond like I've done to quite a few of your threads during the Cliff/Jamalgate



HA HA!!!!!!

Good one, Brownbeauty 123.

GOOD ONE.



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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BB - Don't get mad. I'm just telling you that your shit has gotten tired lately. I hadn't noticed you not responding to me, but then again I don't start nearly the amount of lame brainless threads that you do. I don't troll other forums looking for topics to post over here and I don't pull shit out of my ass just to start a conversation. We're supposed to be discussing issues that affect the BLACK community here - but if you want to believe that anyone but you is interested in the sexual tendencies of a queer white boy, Flav, and all the other faggots you're always posting that you're in love with - then carry on. But just so you know, even though you're starting to sound like a complete internet troll with the posting of the senseless topics - I'll respond any time that I choose. Thank you.
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri, was the BLACK COMMUNITY in your mind when you went on a zoned out rampage by creating several threads that were full of childish mockery, and foul language that was aimed at a another poster?

Recently, I HAVE posted threads that are very well related to Culture, Race, and Economy...but other times I don't feel like talking and debating about serious issues and feel something lighthearted and fluffy would be nice as well. There's nothing wrong with that
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 01:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brownbeauty, you know I got your back regarding our baby Wentworth.

And no, he is not gay.
Extremely well-spoken, cordial, gentlemanly, well-mannered, perceptive, brilliant...
And fine.
(Sorry, I don't know how to post pics properly.)

http://tinypic.com/k35h5c.jpg
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 02:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He brings the pretty big time.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 05:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL....he is SO ORDINARY. Djimon Honsou, Takeshi Kaneshiro, and Wilmer Valderrama are MUCH CUTER.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This guy looks like just anybody you can meet in any in-town bar. On a WEEKDAY.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata, I think he's sorta
unattractive but I didn't
want to hurt BB's feelings.
His dome and hairline makes
him look monkeylike. In one
picture it looked like he has
tarter on his teeth. And the
rest of him is just average.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You want a mixed race hottie to shout about, try Daniel Sunjata:



Or Jason Momoa:

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Momma Homma Mamomma or Momoa---now that's what I'm talking 'bout, Fortified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL!!!

I am just honestly not attracted
to even ONE of these men.


Vin Diesel has a little "something"
about him that gets me.



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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jason Momoa is absolutely gorgeous!!!!
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Come on now, Kola!
Picture Momoa with
nappy dreads and
black or brown or
dark skin and tell
me that "nikka"
ain't foinnne!
Be honest!
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

It's something about Momoa's "face"
that I don't like.

It has a European "Jesus" look
that I don't like.

He's not cute to me.

SERIOUSLY.

I bet the head of his dick
is "pink" and his hands turn
RED when he squeezes it.

BET'CHA.

Not my type.



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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jason Momoa is Hawaiian and Caucasian. I think the combination of his parents genes is amazing--damn near perfection. And this pic, imo, hardly does him justice. And, I don't think locs look good on him --his texture hair simply does not hold the style. It looks very dirty on him. But he is fione --his eyes are mesmerizing!
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 07:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ROFL @ "european Jesus look" LOL!!!!

Jason is just as sexy in person...

Here is a younger pic of him



I prefer the older, dreaded look



I would fuck him raw in an alley way... :-)
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 08:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OMG!! I thought about
Jesus TOO when I looked
at his face!!! That's what
prompted me to suggest that
you look at him in a different
light. This is becoming Way too
fucking eerie Kola. We are
thinking TOO MUCH ALIKE! (LOL)
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 08:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah, those two guys are really hot.

I don't get the fascination with Vin Diesel. He's not cute to me. I would much rather have the other guys I named.

If anyone knows how, please post pictures of them.

Djimon Honsou (I'm so pissed that he isn't getting more work than he is)
Wilmer Valderrama (even though he's been looking chubby these days)
Takeshi Kaneshiro (he was the only Japanese guy in the Chinese film "House of Flying Daggers")
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Jason does NOT look like them Jesus paintings! Now I feel like a real dirty sinner for saying what I said.

Hi Renata, here are some pics:

Djimon


wilmer:


Takeshi:
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 08:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

THANKS!!

DAMN! Now thems some hot motherfuckers!
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 08:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Takeshi is handsome but Will Yun Lee is finer.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 09:03 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know this is IMPOSSIBLE for some of you American women to believe.

But I do NOT find Jason Momoa attractive AT ALL.

There are others of that TYPE that I do find insatiably sexy...but I don't like his looks.

He's too SLICK and "Fuji" looking for me.

Not MANLY enough.

I don't like pretty boys----although---I
do like this photo of him, because he looks
more Latino here.



Djimon, however, is the only FUCKABLE man
you've shown in here.

I mean for REAL women.

These others look like effeminate little boys to me.

No COMBAT BOOT, Macho, HE-man stuff going on with these "pretty" boys.

ON THE REAL:

If a man looks like I might be able
to WHOOP his ass----then he's not sexy
to me.

VIN DIESEL turns me the fuck on!!!!

THE ROCK turns me on.

Rick Fox is "passable".


_________

For my eyes, the fact that these
men lack brown, chocolate or black
skin is a HUGE minus.


















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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata, what bars are you going to?
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I'm crazy for dark-haired/dark-eyed men. When I lived in MS, it seemed the majority of men who were interested in me were blonde/blue-eyed, which I don't find even remotely attractive.

Momoa is cute, but his hair/eye color makes him lose a few points with me.

BB123, go to a bar near a college, doesn't matter which one. Make sure they sell beer by the pitcher and/or bottles for 3.00 or less. Go there after 4 on weekdays or anytime Friday and Saturday night. Days with beer specials are good, too. You'll meet any number of guys who look as "good" as Wentworth, but chances are you'll meet cuter guys.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Savant, I check out some pics and you're DELUSIONAL if you think this guy:

http://www.celebopedia.com/will-yun-lee/images/will-yun-lee.jpg

looks better than this guy:

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1137602/photo_06.jpg

(BTW, the movie "House of Flying Daggers" was beautifully written and the setting/costumes were BREATHTAKING)
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 10:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And if you MUST see the movie, rent it on DVD. There's a video for a HAUNTINGLY BEAUTIFUL song sung by Kathleen Battle. I don't even LIKE opera and found myself watching/listening to the song 3 times a day. I plan on buying it.
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

These guys probably
wouldn't fit under the
definition of "mixed race hottie"
but I think they are HOT nonetheless.

David Schwimmer (cutie pie):

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.friendsbygua.com.ar/images/dav 4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.friendsbygua.com.ar/carasDS.html&h=426&w=334&sz=35&hl =en&start=7&tbnid=YyxAAYZ8D1ipCM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddavid%2Bsc hwimmer%2Bphoto%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DX

http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/3142/schwimmer.htm


Keanu Reeves (there's something about his
personality that weakens me - he's sexy):

http://www.postershop.co.uk/Reeves-Keanu/Reeves-Keanu-Photo-XL-Keanu-Reeves-6212 385.html


Reneta, Takeshi is a definite hottie!!
...no matter how you cut it!
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OMG!!! Fortified, Jason Momoa could fuck me "raw" in an alley way, too!! :-)

That man is SO FINE.

Kola you need glasses. LOL!!

That Asian guy could hit this, too.




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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wentworth Miller--ick.

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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

keanu reeves is hawaiian and white. his father is a full blood hawaiian man and his mother is white. keanu reeves is actually "mixed".
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, Tonya!

David? OK....the hair/eye color certainly helps.

Keanu is so "blah" boring and often looks like he needs some good nutritional food, like some Grape Juice and a cheese and egg sandwich or something.
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I can't help it....whenever I see Keanu, I just want to give him a cheeseburger and a baked potato. Looks like he could use some good nutrition.
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 12:22 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I get it Kola you are not attracted to white or white looking men. I understand that completely. The average BW isn't. Most BW's aren't attracted to white men.
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 01:22 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata,
It's about the total package....lol
Will Yun Lee has a certain edginess that Takeshi doesn't have. Takeshi may be more classically beautiful but Will has more raw sexual appeal and is therefore finer, to me.

Bottom line, it's all a matter of personal taste.

And Renata... you telling me you routinely run into THIS in your neighborhood bar?
http://s2.supload.com/image.php?get=ew-0825-img160.jpg
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 01:28 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata,
For me, Will Yun Lee, in this picture:

http://www.willyunlee.com/

is infinitely sexier, finer than Takeshi.

I wouldn't kick Takeshi out of bed, by no means...
But I'd pass him up for a night with Will...lol
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 04:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I get it Kola you are not attracted to white or white looking men. I understand that completely. The average BW isn't. Most BW's aren't attracted to white men.

No...there are occasional instances when I AM attracted to WHITE men or "other types"--especially White and Latino men (and I generally like white and latino men).

But OVERALL--if a man's not "black" (especially if he doesn't have African hair), then I can't really get too excited about him sexually/romantically.

I love a black man's negro-ness: lips, nose and the feel of his dick in my mouth (not trying to be funny). I love African hair.

I once had sex with a white friend named Judd (and it was good), but as I ran my hands through his silkish hair, I got sick and threw up.

He was a very nice guy and I liked him a lot. But we weren't natural mates ("of the bloodberry" as it were).

I usually am not attracted to very, very "light skinned" black men (because they aren't really black in my mind), but occasionally I like one.

I lost my virginity to one. :-)












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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 04:35 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata,

I don't like Vin Diesel because he's "cute".

I like him because he LOOKS LIKE he's man enough to put a hurt'n on this ASS.

I like MANLY men.

Not "cute" pretty boys who look like they need a HAM sandwich and a napkin to wipe their lip gloss off with.









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Kola: "Not "cute" pretty boys who look like they need a HAM sandwich and a napkin to wipe their lip gloss off with."


Tell the truth: You'd include BB123 loverboy Wentworth in THAT catagory. Wouldn't you?
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola, I get you. It does make sense.

Savant: about Will Yun Lee....still not impressed. It is a personal taste thing.

There are no bars in my neighborhood, but, yep, at nearly any bar in downtown, Little 5, Virginia Highland, downtown Decatur, midtown, Buckhead, or near the colleges, you can find guys who look even better than that dude. He's just an ORDINARY white dude. Maybe the shaved head makes him look different. Picture him with hair.
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Renata: about Will Yun Lee....still not impressed. It is a personal taste thing.

True, true....the "personal taste" thing keeps us from all going after the same men...hehe

Renata: Maybe the shaved head makes him look different. Picture him with hair.

Renata, I hate to keep posting the same link but he's equally as gorgeous with hair.

http://tinypic.com/k35h5c.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Kittymeow1/Watch3.jpg
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David Schwimmer looks like a typical New York, Jewish male. Usually, I don't find anyting magnetic or attractive about the physical features and mannerisms of Jewish men --he's no exception.


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Brownbeauty,

I don't watch much tv, so I don't watch Wentworth Miller's show. However, yesterday evening I just happened to be watching a bit of tv, and I caught a tad of an interview he was in. He is extremely well-spoken and has a very nice tone to his voice --much more masculine than I'd imagine from just seeing his pictures. Though he still is a pretty-boy, after hearing his voice, he doesn't seem as "soft" to me anymore. I can better understand your affinity for him, now.

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THIS...is not a
"pretty" boy---this is




...a grilled cheese
sandwich that's going
to melt and stink and
not age (hold up) very well.

This boy is YUCKY to me, but
in all fairness---I really don't
like how MOST "mixed race" males
look.

The Mixed Women look far superior,
and even they don't look WORTH IT.






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I'm turned on by David Schwimmer, too, Tonya.

But then I have a thing for Jewish men. Not that there's many in America who still look Jewish---which is a tragedy.

Have you seen these new "blond, blue eyed" Italians??? OH GOD. They're so ridiculous looking, I could puke.








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Too many Jewish men in America have light colored eyes and hair. I much prefer the ones who look like the stereotypical jew and not some irishman with a jewish name.
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Reneta, Kola, I have a thing for dark hair and eyes, too, so traditional Italian and Jewish men are high on my list as well. BUT if the hair & eyes looks good together OR match each other perfectly--(Richard Gere {90’s version - “Pretty Woman” - loved him!!!}, Jason Momoa, and Keanu Reeves)--I have absolutely NO problem making exceptions! (LOL)

http://www.milams.com/prettywmn.html

http://www.milams.com/gere_mare.htm

http://www.milams.com/terry_pics.htm

http://www.milams.com/gere_misc_pics.htm

http://www.milams.com/pcks.htm

http://www.milams.com/pcks1.htm

http://www.milams.com/gere1.htm
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"I don't watch much tv, so I don't watch Wentworth Miller's show. However, yesterday evening I just happened to be watching a bit of tv, and I caught a tad of an interview he was in. He is extremely well-spoken and has a very nice tone to his voice --much more masculine than I'd imagine from just seeing his pictures. Though he still is a pretty-boy, after hearing his voice, he doesn't seem as "soft" to me anymore. I can better understand your affinity for him, now."

Thank you! The pictures really don't do him justice. He is such a dreamboat to me.

You have to see him in motion, those pictures don't do his good looks any justice.
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I like Wentworth too, although I am curious as to why I see him mentioned from time to time when it comes to Black culture. Does he have a black parent or something?
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Kola,
Question: How old do you think Wentworth is? I'm curious about your "not age very well" statement...

Dakota,
Wentworth's father is black, a Yale Law grad and Rhodes Scholar.
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Or so his mother tells him.

I was sure it must have been a grandparent or GREAT grandparent that was black, but I'm not sure.
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He looks just like his father, Renata.
(I've seen his dad.) :-)
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Renata, his father is barely black. His daddy was a multiracial man.

I view Wentworth as a White man. A good looking one:-)

Savant, you got pictures of his daddy?
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Brownbeauty...
His father is not "barely black" nor "multiracial".
And yes, I have seen the much talked-about pix...lol
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Savant, his father IS multiracial. Wentworth has said so himself.

Can you post a link?
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Brownbeauty, Wentworth has never said his father is "multiracial" or "biracial".
He has consistently said his father is black.
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Savant, you can do a quick search and tons of interviews have him reporting that his father his half African American..

Here's the link to the article

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/031110ta_talk_paumgarten

In the new film “The Human Stain,” based on the Philip Roth novel, an actor named Wentworth Miller plays the young Coleman Silk—or, rather, the young Anthony Hopkins. (Hopkins, you see, plays the older Wentworth Miller.) Silk is a black man who, by dint of the lightness of his skin and his determination to circumvent prejudice, passes himself off, for most of his life, as a white man—a Jewish white man. In real life, Hopkins is a Welshman (white, not Jewish), but Miller’s origins are mixed. His father is black; his mother is white. (To be precise, his father is African-American-Jamaican-German-English; his mother is Russian-Dutch-French-Syrian-Lebanese; and, like most people, he has a Jewish great-grandmother, on his father’s side.) Miller doesn’t look black, whatever that means, but neither does Hopkins, or Silk. (Miller doesn’t look anything like Hopkins, either.)

In the story, Silk, a classics professor, loses his job when he is accused of racism for using the word “spooks” to describe two black students who have never shown up for his class. He means that they’re so reliably absent as to be nonexistent, but the students and the school administrators hear something else. Silk holds on to the race card, choosing not to reveal that he’s black—a fact that would, presumably, exonerate him. Down goes Silk.

It so happens that Wentworth Miller found himself in a similar jam when he was in college. As a junior at Princeton, in 1994, he published, in the Daily Princetonian, a cartoon featuring Cornel West, who was then a professor of African-American studies there but who had just been hired away by Harvard. The cartoon depicted Muffy, a white Harvard student, imagining her first class with West, who is saying, “Today’s lecture is entitled, ‘Rhythm—Why None of You Have It, and How You Can Get It.’ ” It also described West as “newly purchased,” which is academe-speak for a new hire.

This did not go over well—“newly purchased” was taken to be a reference to slavery—and within days the paper had run angry letters signed by dozens of students and faculty members, including the novelist Toni Morrison, symposia had been convened, and the school had been plunged into one of those predictable convulsions of recrimination and argument. The story made the Times, and Wentworth Miller, who everyone assumed was white, was transformed into a controversial figure: the campus bigot. Yet, like Silk, at no point did he bring up his background, choosing instead to mutter some sentences about an attempt to lampoon racial stereotypes. His own race card went unplayed.

“To be perfectly clear, passing”—that is, trying to pass oneself off as white, as Silk does—“is something that has never crossed my mind,” Miller, who was brought up in Park Slope, said last week, over breakfast. He speaks with great precision and doesn’t blink very often. “Instead of stepping forward and explaining what I’d meant by the cartoon and positing my own racial background as evidence that I’d really meant no harm, I chose to remain silent. My attitude was, If they don’t get it, I don’t have to explain it, which was my way of saying that if they don’t get me, I don’t have to explain me. The people who knew me on campus and knew my background knew where I was coming from, but I think for most people I was just a name in the paper, and they probably assumed I was white.”

This, apparently, was the assumption when, seven years later, Miller was trying out for the part in “The Human Stain.” On this occasion, however, he was moved, either by emotion or by exigency, to posit his background. At the audition, he told the casting director that the script resonated with him, because, he said, “I’m a minority.” He soon found himself recounting the Cornel West cartoon episode, and then he read some scenes. “When I was done, she was in tears and I was in tears,” Miller recalled. After he was invited back for a screen test, though, his manager passed along a request: “They want to make sure you are who you say you are.” So Miller went to Kinko’s and made color copies of family photographs, and soon he had his first role in a motion picture.

After shooting “The Human Stain,” Miller wrote a letter to Cornel West, in which he apologized for the cartoon in the Princetonian and told him about his turn as Coleman Silk. He heard nothing back, but, as luck would have it, West, who is a friend of the actress Anna Deveare Smith (Miller’s mother in the film), showed up at the New York première, a couple of weeks ago. “The first thing he did was give me this big bear hug,” Miller said, “which really meant the world to me.”
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 09:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His father is multiracial.

You know good and well can't no Black person produce a child THAT white looking unless they're half white themselves.

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Good evening too all!

Personally, I am kinda feeling Wentworth. I find him to be intelligent, well-spoken and well-mannered. He has a courtly manner and an old-school flavor to him. I don't find him effeminate at all.

In the past he has stated that he is not white and that his father is black. So I'll go with that. However, that is neither here nor there. I find him quite attractive.

http://s2.supload.com/image.php?get=ew_spotlight-20060819213259.jpg

Tonya have to agree with you about Keanu. Always loved him.


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Did you read the above article? his father is multiracial.

Just because he can move his lips to say his father is Black doesn't actually mean his daddy really is.
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Brownbeauty, "tons of interviews" do NOT have his father as "half-African American". What many articles DO trot out is the litany of heritages that you cite, which does not mean that someone is by definition "biracial". What is "African American" and "Jamaican", for example? Does that not read "black" to you? And how many black folks, if they want to get specific and claim it, can trot out "Irish" "Scots" "German", what-have-you? Does acknowledging that there is that heritage somewhere in a person's lineage mean that the person is "biracial", with a white parent?

Wentworth's father's "lineage" is no different than the majority of black folks in America. Went's dad is a black man with a mixed background. In the same way that Malcolm X could say he is "African American, Barbadian, [fill in the blank with whatever ethnicity Malcolm's mother's white father was]", Wentworth's father has a similar lineage.
Now until I see definitive evidence that his father is indeed "biracial", I'm going with what my eyes tell me when I viewed the pictures (that his dad is a black man) and what Wentworth has shared.
If you prefer to view Went as a white man, go for it, however....
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 10:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, I have read the article Brownbeauty123.

So to follow your line of thinking, anyone with lineage that is not soley Black is not and cannot be consider Black. And when did we start voluntarily handing over "Black folk" to the White community.
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 10:49 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Savant, you have a CLASSIC case of the "one droppist" syndrome.

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So when did having Black heritage not make you "Black" in America. Whether it is Black-American, Black Samoan, Black Puerto Rican, etc, etc, etc.

Did I miss something? When did race become a Òsocial constructÓ?
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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How black CAN he be? Anyone who looks like that AND who doesn't quite catch it in time that "newly purchased" can be offensive to a black person clearly isn't living the same life as a black person is.

I mean, REALLY.

And it's interesting that when he OFFENDS SOMEONE black, he doesn't find it important to say what his background is, but when an important acting job comes up and his being a minority might help him to get a job, NOW he's black enough to mention it.

You guys have taken me from just finding him BORING AND ORDINARY to flat out not liking him at all.
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This is not a Black man



I don't care who his parents were
or how many mini-drops of black blood
flow in his veins----HE IS NOT OUR RACE.

The ONLY people who would believe
he is "black"----are Black Americans
who descended from SLAVE PLANTATIONS
and were taught to hate and disrespect
Black People by embracing the LIE that
anyone with one drop of our African
blood is automatically black.

That's racist bullshit.

And SAVANT, who screams and cries
"My people" every other thread--really
shows what a creation of niggerstock she
is...constantly howling and salavating over
all these latin, white and Asian men, and
then disrespecting Blacks by imposing her
slave master's credo that just anybody
can be black.

But that's because she's a mulatto
white-blooded bitch her damned self.

People like her think "blackness" is an affliction, so they try to bring WHITE PEOPLE
into the black race--because they think BLACK
ain't pretty enough by itself.

They also want to secure
their "place of privileage" as
Light skinned buffer bastards.












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Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And Savant, says he's just a "lightskin brotha". LOL
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You mean "howling and salivating over these latin, white and Asian men" the way that YOU do, Kola?
Including posting pics of your Latino ex-lovers with prominent erections?

Last time I checked, both my parents were black. Seems like the only "mulatto, white-blooded bitch" posting on this threads is YOU, Kola...as you have repeatedly admitted.
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"Newly Purchased" is a term used by both Black and White academics when referring to someone who as been basically lured away (generally by money or more prestige) by another university. So he was not being insensitive just literal.

Would you feel it necessary to play the "race" card every time you found yourself in a precarious or racially charged situation; if people did not readily identify you as Black?

Why should he defend himself by pulling out his family tree and asking forgiveness for something that was nothing more than a "political" spat.

Grown ass men, do grown ass things. Pulling out the family tree would have been a "punk ass" move. It's a matter of character or have we forgotten what that is.

He is an actor, so considering the fact that he would be portraying a black man in The Human Stain it was appropriate for him to reveal his background. And the role couldn't have been that important he didn't work for two years after that. LOL
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"Would you feel it necessary to play the "race" card every time you found yourself in a precarious or racially charged situation; if people did not readily identify you as Black? "

Only a person who is NOT Black can answer this question for you...
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EVERY ROLE is important to a new actor. Hell, if I wanted to act badly enough, I'd take a role as Chinese woman myself to get in. It was CONVENIENT for him to mention it (for a job).

And that term was so well known, students and faculty found it important to write letters about a term they were SO FAMILIAR WITH, but they only got angry when he used the term. Who's buying this crap?

And AGAIN, he's CLEARLY not living the life of a black person. When was the last time you called someone a nigger and had the person think you were being racist to them? When was the last time you had to MENTION to a new employer that you were black so that they would know?
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kola boof is just a typical ugly african, who is obsessed with black americans and our culture. her burning jealousy of our people (mainly our women) forces her to try to insult our people every chace she gets.
hey kola boof, there is a sudanese/arab message board calling you. why don't you go there and fume about something you might actually know about. our people don't need to be taught somekind of "lesson" by some "third-world, self-proclaimed expert" on our people. why don't you let our people speak for ourselves. you should worry about the "sudanese" (what a great and mighty people they are, lol). what a bitter, stupid outsider you are kola.
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So Kola_boof and Brownbeauty123 by the criteria you have set Kathleen Cleaver, Huey Newton, WEB DuBois, Julian Bond are not quite Black enoughÉat least not for you.

And Brownbeauty123 it was a rhetorical question. I did not need or expect an answer.
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Well, let me put it in THIS perspective.

Wentworth, not even being HALF black, used his "blackness" to be considered for a movie role. Let's see HALF white Halle Berry get away with that feat.
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I am quite sure being half white did help her get the role of Queen in Alex Haley's Queen.

Even though she allowed herself the humiliation of being put in "WHITE FACE". Or did that heavy pancake they put on her face and body so she could play the "tragic" mulatto escape your attention.
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She's a mulatto who was cast as a mulatto. Let's see her get a role as a white woman, and tell the casting director that she is so she can be considered for the part.

I don't so much mind her getting black roles, since she does look black. But, seriously, is she going to walk into some place and use her white bloodline to get white roles with her skin color? So, why is it OK for some blue eyed, white guy to be considered for black roles because he has black blood? Hell, if that's the direction we're going in,

And from what we know of Huey Newton (who beat black girlfriends and married a white woman), I could hardly care what anybody considers him.
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Totusdulcidine, I wish you'd stop drawing unreasonable comparisons to other actors/musicians/whoever that have absolutely nothing to do with Wentworth Miller being a white man.
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And I haven't set any criteria. Wentworth Miller is not a Black man, to hell with the rest of what you're saying.
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Brownbeauty123, what's unreasonable about the comparison?

Why don't you just say you don't agree with the comparison and have no evidential proof to sustain your argument "that Wentworth Miller is a white man", other than the fact he has light eyes and light skin.

By falling back on the patented dismissal "to hell with the rest of what you're saying," you have proven that point.

And you set the criteria as soon as you fell into lock step with Kola, who seems to see herself as the arbiter of racial identity or is Kola a geneticist as well as a writer?

My question to Kola what else is on the menu with that Kool-aid?
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I guess if being Black can mean being anything, then, perhaps, being Black can mean nothing.

I guess...
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LOL...if THIS is what the NEW light skinned person looks like...then I guess Halle Berry is the new dark skinned. This is just as silly as Heidi Klum deciding she's not white, she's "brown".

I wonder again why we're not getting many movie roles....well, why would they give one to someone who looks like US, when they can give the role to someone who looks just like THEM....and still, with OUR HELP, say they've given the role to a black man.

If this motherfucker EVER, EVER, EVER get a role that was to be considered for Djimon Honsou...I'm raising SOME SERIOUS FUCKING SAND.
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Dumb people don't get it.....maybe that's why we haven't seen more people who look like us. They give roles to "black people" ALL THE TIME. Sure, they LOOK like white people....but they're BLACK by this country's definitions.

"WE HIRE BLACK PEOPLE FOR LEADING ROLES ALL THE TIME. HAVEN'T YOU SEEN THE NEW SHOW STARRING WENTWORTH MILLER?"

If we're THAT stupid, we don't need to be on TV.
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^^^^^LMAO - you give me joke Renata.
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Renata: They give roles to "black people" ALL THE TIME. Sure, they LOOK like white people....but they're BLACK by this country's definitions.

Yep, there sure are a lot of "white-looking" black actors like Wentworth getting roles.
There's Wentworth and there's....hmmmmmm.....come to think of it MOST of the black actors that I can name off the bat "look like white people"...

Yeah. Uh-huh.
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Abm, stop with the existential bullshit. Black does not mean being anything or nothing.

Black folk whether ebony, brown, light or damn near white are have always been part of the Black community. Now we are going to change the rules of the game because this generation thinks they have "discovered authentic Blackness." WTF

Blackness encompasses a multitude. We as Black people cannot just abandon our light-skinned brothers and sister because they donÕt look like usÉjust up and hand them over to the White community because we donÕt have the will to overcome ÒourÓ differences and except each other for what we ARE not what we look like.

White folk didnÕt ask you to pull out your family tree when they were putting that noose around your neck and hoisting your light-skinned ass up a limb, did they?

"If this motherfucker EVER, EVER, EVER get a role that was to be considered for Djimon Honsou...I'm raising SOME SERIOUS FUCKING SAND."

Renata you know that ainÕt EVER, EVER going to happen. In Hollywood the dark-skinned black male reigns supreme when it comes to roles for male people of color. Hell, even when they do their so-called Òcolor-blindÓ casting, the dark-skinned brotha will always win out. And please donÕt mention Terrance Howard, heÕs been playing second, third and fourth leads to dark-skinned brothers for years. Is that necessarily a bad thing, no, but it is telling. Hollywood too, has its own form of "cast system" when it comes to Black people.
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There's that girl from "Honey" who doesn't look anything black, but played one in a movie.

I haven't seen Djimon in a movie in a while and I'm waiting for it. I don't even consider Eddie Murphy movies, I'm talking serious movies, not movies where one has to show their ass and be a comedian.

I also wonder who would have gotten the role, if WM hadn't mentioned that he was black and should get it. I seriously don't know much about TH. I've seen him in one movie and wasn't crazy about it. I DO remember him on the (that tall red-head dude) late night show saying the only reason he says he's black is because the Constitution says it's the law.

But again, FACE IT, the man ain't black...and the only reason he'll say he is is because white racists don't care WHAT he looks like, they won't accept him with one drop of black blood. ONE DROP of black blood is BENEATH them. In other words, "we don't care if he looks like us and is MOSTLY us. He's got ONE DROP of black blood. Let the niggers have him."

And black self hate is to the point that people are FIGHTING and ARGUING to PROVE that black people can have white skin and blue eyes and light colored hair as a NORM for black people. And anyone with ONE DROP of black blood, but otherwise 98% white blood, is EQUAL to us in every way.
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And BTW, I never said that he was ugly, just that he's

or·di·nar·y adj.
Commonly encountered; usual. See Synonyms at COMMON.
Of no exceptional ability, degree, or quality; average.
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Totudulcidine,

Why? I happen to LIKE dabbling in "existential bullshit".

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

But, seriously, what does it mean to be Black if the ONLY standard for such is that some happens to have a (partially?) Black grandparent or greatgrandparent?

What does that really mean?

How can you really establish and observe any standards for Blackness (assuming, of course, such is desired), if almost ANYONE can theoretically effect and affect it?

I'm not espousing the abandonment of anyone. I just think that, perhaps, we should earnestly look at what we are - both real and imagined - and consider whether such adequately represent what we should continue to pursue.

Truly. What will happen to people who refer to themselves as being African American who, perhaps, are headed in the direction of our best educated, wealthiest and (allegedly) most beautiful becoming over 80% NON-AFRICAN? There simply MUST be some consequence of such to us as a whole, which will likely be particularly negative for those who do NOT meet that criteria.

And just because we've always done something does not mean that it should be above reconsideration, if not rebuttal.

Given our CURRENT state of affairs as individuals, families, communities and wholly as a culture, I'd should think that some wholesale evaluation of what we 'Black' foks are is not only advisable. Such is PREEMINENTLY IMPORTANT.
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There is so much self-hate in this community that we would rather 'someone like him' represent us than someone who actually LOOKS (whatever that is supposed to mean) black. He neither represents the black or white community and to a further extent he neither represents the mixed raced community. The only person this man should represent is himself.

If this man's black admixture doesn't make him black then is non-black admixture also doesn't make him white. And he is also has other races in him that are neither black or white. This man is simply multiracial and it is how he prefers to define himself. I think wentowrth knows what he is and who he is (mixed raced) it is OTHER people who have the problem.

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TRIVIA: The role of Cinque Joseph was offered to Cuba Gooding, Jr., but he didn't think that he could best represent an African.

(or so he says...I think he didn't want to be ASSOCIATED with being an African, but that's just my opinion).
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Renata,

Thank GOD Cuba didn't get his grubby hands on the Cinque role.

JEEZ!
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I'm just glad he was an established enough actor that he could do that. I know if he were a NEW actor, he would have TAKEN that role.

HOWEVER, from looking at paintings of Cinque.....he actually looked MORE like Cuba than Djimon... but Djimon did a SPECTACULAR job.
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Black folk whether ebony, brown, light or damn near white are have always been part of the Black community. Now we are going to change the rules of the game because this generation thinks they have "discovered authentic Blackness." WTF

You're fulla shit---Totus

You keep leaving out that it was a WHITE SLAVE MASTER who determined this...what else do you want to keep from SLAVERY to degrade black people?

I agree 100% with the young Black American kids who are mixed, biracial, etc. and DO NOT want to be called something they are not-----BLACK.

Because as an African woman, I can tell you---they damned sure don't represent BLACK people or do them any justice. It's an INSULT, but part of being "niggerstock" is not being able to see that.

I'm also happy to see WHITE YOUTH no longer accepting this 1 drop racist bullshit.

WHITES see themselves in Mariah Carey, Wentworth Miller and Vin Diesel, which they should, and they feel an affinity for and DO NOT consider these people "black".

Even Halle Berry became the topic of a FIERCE public debate on Los Angeles radio a few years ago when WHITE KIDS insisted that because her mother is "white"----she is HALF WHITE, not "Black"----and I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED how they fought those Black American kids down for 3 days in a row on the radio---insisting Halle is "BIRACIAL", not Black.

It showed the racist "truth" about White People--about their STRATEGIES--and it showed how "niggerish" and "stupid" Black people are....to actually let themselves be represented by Mulattoes and to let WHITES define who is black.

NO---AFRICANS are the original black people.

And they are called "BLACK", because they are Quite Literally "BLACK".

And they have STANDARDS for Blackness that respect and honor and uphold the humanity of Black people.

The Arabs and Berbers and Mulattoes in AFRICA are not "black" and do not call themselves "black"---though many of them are still African.

Genetics don't mean SHIT!

Those who LOOK Black are the ones who experience being "BLACK"----------those who look "MIXED" experience what it's like to be "Mixed". Mariah Carey LOOKS White, so she overall experiences what it's like to be a White Woman.

A Black woman's experience in life may be similar to a Mulatto woman's--but in the end---their experience is NOT the same. They are two different beings.

Wentworth Miller will NEVER know what it's like to be a BLACK MAN--to be Denzel or Michael Jordan.

Neither will Halle Berry EVER know what it's like to be Yolanda Adams or Regina King.

Your whole fucking society is a LIE--created by SLAVERY and co-signed by your status as a SLAVE.

If Rosa Parks was born today in 2006, she would no longer be forced by SEGREGATION to live in an all black world. She would be considered a "mixie" and she'd see herself as a more MULTI-imbued person, not necessarily "Black". Which is actually how she saw herself anyway, but the NAACP used her (and her "light image") to promote THEIR agenda. After all, they couldn't very well embrace and promote the TRUE MOTHER of the Civil Rights Movement----Fannie Lou Hamer. Why, no, she was the WRONG IMAGE---"too black".

And it was Claudette Colvin, a teenaged "Black" girl, who FIRST refused to give up her seat on a bus---not Rosa Parks. But Claudette was too black to serve the IMAGE machine as well.

SEGREGATION is over now.

Let the BLACK PEOPLE represent their own experience and decide whether or not they will even exist----as the Mulatto is so unfairly risen above the Blacks and keeps the blacks down by benefitting from colorism and calling themselves "black"---when they really are an agent for the White Power Structure.

BEYONCE, whether she means to or not---is an agent for White Supremacy. Her VISUAL IMAGE is to remind "black girls" that they are inferior to WHITENESS. And that's why BEYONCE's image is superimposed on Black Society and pushed by WHITE society.

The Mulatto is ALWAYS used to breed Blacks out of existence. And your disrespect for "black skin"---by claiming Wentworth Miller and Mariah Carey are black people---is PROOF of what I'm saying.

You HATE black people, so you'd rather advance the DELUSION that any white person can be BLACK.

In other words, as ABM said---you're claminging that authentic Black people are NOTHING AT ALL. Obsolete.

But WHITENESS, now that's something. That's real to you.





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And for anyone who thinks this ISN'T determined by white racism/black self-hatred, just consider:

WM is MOSTLY white by blood.
WM looks white.
WM doesn't look black at all.

So, why don't white people want him?

ON THE OTHER HAND:
He looks nothing like us.
He looks like another race, who he's mostly comprised of.
He's LESS black than white by blood.

Why do we want so badly to prove that he's AS BLACK as say, Michael Jordan?
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Kola, I don't need a history lesson from you, while you were shiting in your diapers I was living it. And you are right, the white supremacist monolith is this country is something I do know very well, enough to recognize you as one of its progeny.

You never fail to describe yourself as African women, trotting out your racial authenticity and supposed superiority for all us poor Black slaves born here in America. Shouting, ÒYour Black queen has arrived to save you poor, ignorant, brainwashed masses from yourselves.Ó

You claim to love Black people but you don't. You do however sit in judgment of them dispensing your brand on vitriol to whoever dares question YOUR agenda. Your bitterness is like a veil that blinds you to your own self-hatred and hatred of your own people.

Love Black people I think not.

And if you think segregation is over all you have to do is visit the nearest inner-city community or the nearest inner-city school in most cities across this nation to dispel that myth.

Besides pontificating at this forum what exactly have you done for your Black sisters and brothers you claim to love so much? What political activism have you engaged in? What mentoring have you done to help our Black children look to their future?

Please donÕt come back with another one of those tiresome rants, the YAWN or the FUCK YOU silhouette. They are so unoriginal pretty much like every thought that runs through your head.
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Totus,

You can talk all the ENTITLED Old Yeller nigger bitch crap you WISH.

But I will come for my children---

---and they're not REDBONES---and they sure in the hell need saving from WHITE TRASH like you.

Khaferi ehn Khatiatak








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Besides pontificating at this forum what exactly have you done for your Black sisters and brothers you claim to love so much? What political activism have you engaged in? What mentoring have you done to help our Black children look to their future?

Quite a bit.

You can buy my autobiography (and other books) to find out.

And BTW---I have never claimed to be a "Queen" over anyone (though the SPLA annointed me Queen), or the savior of anyone.

That's your own JEALOUS White bitch refrain.

I am an AFRICAN mother and my opinion is just as good as you and your slave master's---and like I told you---I will come for my children.

I don't need permission from a coward like you.












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--- Your whole fucking society is a LIE--created by SLAVERY and co-signed by your status as a SLAVE. ---

And there you have it.

You perceive Black Americans as inferior but you whore yourself to us like a demented harpy. Kola your need to be affirmed by your racial inferiors has pathological dimensions.

Coward, interesting but not provocative, and redbone, niggastock, nigger bitch, white trash, just your standard repetitive and uncreative catchwords.

People whose pursuit of authentic Blackness that you view as insufficiently militant are berated as self-loathing house niggers, complicit with whites in the perpetuation of racial oppression. Using the tack of a narcissistic twelve-year-old not only hurts your cause but also exposes your lack of true linear thinking.

I do not speak for my fellow travelers, only myself. Whether Wentworth Miller considers himself bi-racial, multi-racial, Black, or white is his choice. But no one defines my Blackness, not white society, not Kola Boof.

I am more than a demeaning rant in a forum, more than a survivor�s tale of oppression, more than the descendent of slaves and so much more than one wronged, deemed inferior or ridiculed by whites.

But who is Kola Boof? Beyond these published facts:

Author (true)
Sex slave of Osma Bin Laden (maybe)
Queen the Sudan People�s Liberation Army (not likely)

Oh, Kola can I add delusional to that list?
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Definitely delusional since Kola's not even black, she is one of those half-breeeds
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"Authentically Black" or not, gay or not, I'd still sop him up with a biscuit and lick my fingers afterwards.

Now let the hate begin. LOL

Wentworth Miller
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I hear you, Totusdulcidine!
Wentworth is fione as hell!
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Renata
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Posted on Monday, September 04, 2006 - 12:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL....I promise you...I'm looking for it...I'm looking as hard as I can...and I can't see it.

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