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Tonya
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I figured some of us could use a refresher course on racial caricatures and the meaning of such coming from white people directed at blacks, or, in this case, Latino looking blacks directed at dark-skinned blacks:
Nigger and Caricatures
http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/caricature/
There is a direct and strong link between the word nigger and anti-black caricatures. Although nigger has been used to refer to any person of known African ancestry,2 it is usually directed against blacks who supposedly have certain negative characteristics. The Coon caricature, for example, portrays black men as lazy, ignorant, and obsessively self-indulgent; these are also traits historically represented by the word nigger. The Brute caricature depicts black men as angry, physically strong, animalistic, and prone to wanton violence. This depiction is also implied in the word nigger. The Tom and Mammy caricatures are often portrayed as kind, loving "friends" of whites. They are also presented as intellectually childlike, physically unattractive, and neglectful of their biological families. These later traits have been associated with blacks, generally, and are implied in the word nigger. The word nigger was a shorthand way of saying that blacks possessed the moral, intellectual, social, and physical characteristics of the Coon, Brute, Tom, Mammy, and other racial caricatures.
The etymology of nigger is often traced to the Latin niger, meaning black. The Latin niger became the noun negro (black person) in English, and simply the color black in Spanish and Portuguese. In Early Modern French niger became negre and, later, negress (black woman) was clearly a part of lexical history. One can compare to negre the derogatory nigger – and earlier English variants such as negar, neegar, neger, and niggor – which developed into a parallel lexico-semantic reality in English. It is likely that nigger is a phonetic spelling of the white Southern mispronunciation of Negro. Whatever its origins, by the early 1800s it was firmly established as a denigrative epithet. Almost two centuries later, it remains a chief symbol of white racism.
Social scientists refer to words like nigger, kike, spic, and wetback as ethnophaulisms. Such terms are the language of prejudice – verbal pictures of negative stereotypes. Howard J. Ehrlich, a social scientist, argued that ethnophaulisms are of three types: disparaging nicknames (chink, dago, nigger, and so forth); explicit group devaluations ("Jew him down," or "niggering the land"); and irrelevant ethnic names used as a mild disparagement ("jewbird" for cuckoos having prominent beaks or "Irish confetti" for bricks thrown in a fight).3 All racial and ethnic groups have been victimized by racial slurs; however, no American group has suffered as many racial epithets as have blacks: coon, tom, savage, picanniny, mammy, buck, sambo, jigaboo, and buckwheat are typical.4 Many of these slurs became fully developed pseudo-scientific, literary, cinematic, and everyday caricatures of African Americans. These caricatures, whether spoken, written, or reproduced in material objects, reflect the extent, the vast network, of anti-black prejudice.
The word nigger carries with it much of the hatred and repulsion directed toward Africans and African Americans. Historically, nigger defined, limited, and mocked African Americans. It was a term of exclusion, a verbal justification for discrimination. Whether used as a noun, verb, or adjective, it reinforced the stereotype of the lazy, stupid, dirty, worthless parasite. No other American ethnophaulism carried so much purposeful venom, as the following representative list suggests:
Nigger, v. To wear out, spoil or destroy.
Niggerish, adj. Acting in an indolent and irresponsible manner.
Niggerlipping, v. Wetting the end of a cigarette while smoking it.
Niggerlover, n. Derogatory term aimed at whites lacking in the necessary loathing of blacks.
Nigger luck, n. Exceptionally good luck, emphasis on undeserved.
Nigger-flicker, n. A small knife or razor with one side heavily taped to preserve the user's fingers.
Nigger heaven, n. a designated place, usually the balcony, where blacks were forced to sit, for example, in an integrated movie theater or church.
Nigger knocker, n. axe handle or weapon made from an axe handle.
Nigger rich, adj, Deeply in debt but ostentatious.
Nigger shooter, n. A slingshot.
Nigger steak, n. a slice of liver or a cheap piece of meat.
Nigger stick, n. police officer's baton.
Nigger tip, n. leaving a small tip or no tip in a restaurant.
Nigger in the woodpile, n. a concealed motive or unknown factor affecting a situation in an adverse way.
Nigger work, n. Demeaning, menial tasks.5
Nigger has been used to describe a dark shade of color (nigger-brown, nigger-black), the status of whites who interacted with blacks (nigger-breaker, -dealer, -driver, -killer, -stealer, -worshipper, and -looking), and anything belonging to or associated with African Americans (nigger-baby, -boy, -girl, -mouth, -feet, -preacher, -job, -love, -culture, -college, -music, and so forth).6 Nigger is the ultimate American insult; it is used to offend other ethnic groups, as when Jews are called white-niggers; Arabs, sandniggers; or Japanese, yellow-niggers.
Americans created a racial hierarchy with whites at the top and blacks at the bottom. The hierarchy was undergirded by an ideology which justified the use of deceit, manipulation, and coercion to keep blacks "in their place." Every major societal institution offered legitimacy to the racial hierarchy. Ministers preached that God had condemned blacks to be servants. Scientists measured black heads, brains, faces, and genitalia, seeking to prove that whites were genetically superior to blacks. White teachers, teaching only white students, taught that blacks were less evolved cognitively, psychologically, and socially. The entertainment media, from vaudeville to television, portrayed blacks as docile servants, happy-go-lucky idiots, and dangerous thugs. The criminal justice system sanctioned a double standard of justice, including its tacit approval of mob violence against blacks.
Both American slavery and the Jim Crow caste system which followed were undergirded by anti-black images. The negative portrayals of blacks were both reflected in and shaped by everyday material objects: toys, postcards, ashtrays, detergent boxes, fishing lures, children's books. These items, and countless others, portrayed blacks with bulging, darting eyes, fire-red and oversized lips, jet black skin, and either naked or poorly clothed. The majority of these objects did not use the word nigger; however, many did. In 1874, the McLoughlin Brothers of New York manufactured a puzzle game called "Chopped Up Niggers." Beginning in 1878, the B. Leidersdory Company of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, produced NiggerHair Smoking Tobacco – several decades later the name was changed to BiggerHair Smoking Tobacco. In 1917, the American Tobacco Company had a NiggerHair redemption promotion. NiggerHair coupons were redeemable for "cash, tobacco, S. & H. Green stamps, or presents."
A 1916 magazine advertisement, copyrighted by Morris & Bendien, showed a black child drinking ink. The caption read, "Nigger Milk."
The J. Millhoff Company of England produced a series of cards (circa 1930s), which were widely distributed in the United States. One of the cards shows ten small black dogs with the caption: "Ten Little Nigger Boys Went Out To Dine." This is the first line from a popular children's story called, "The Ten Little Niggers."
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Ten Little Nigger Boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self, and then there were Nine.
Nine Little Nigger Boys sat up very late;
One overslept himself, and then there were Eight.
Eight Little Nigger Boys traveling in Devon;
One said he'd stay there, and then there were Seven.
Seven Little Nigger Boys chopping up sticks;
One chopped himself in halves, and then there were Six.
Six Little Nigger Boys playing with a hive;
A Bumble-Bee stung one, and then there were Five.
Five Little Nigger Boys going in for Law;
One got in Chancery, and then there were Four.
Four Little Nigger Boys going out to Sea;
A Red Herring swallowed one, and then there were Three.
Three Little Nigger Boys walking in the Zoo;
The big Bear hugged one, and then there were Two;
Two Little Nigger Boys sitting in the Sun;
One got frizzled up, and then there was One.
One Little Nigger Boy living all alone;
He got married, and then there were None.7
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In 1939, Agatha Christie, the popular fiction writer, published a novel called Ten Little Niggers. Later editions sometimes changed the name to Ten Little Indians, or And Then There Were None, but as late as 1978, copies of the book with the original title were being produced.8 It was not rare for sheet music produced in the first half of the 20th century to use the word nigger on the cover. The Howley, Haviland Company of New York, produced sheet music for the songs "Hesitate Mr. Nigger, Hesitate," and "You'se Just A Little Nigger, Still You'se Mine, All Mine." The latter was billed as a children's lullaby.
Some small towns used nigger in their names, for example, Nigger Run Fork, Virginia. Nigger was a common name for darkly colored pets, especially dogs, cats, and horses. So-called "Jolly Nigger Banks," first made in the 1800s, were widely distributed as late as the 1960s. Another common item – with many variants, produced on posters, postcards, and prints – is a picture of a dozen black children rushing for a swimming hole. The captions reads, "Last One In's A Nigger."
The racial hierarchy, which began during slavery and extended into the Jim Crow period, has been severely eroded by a civil rights movement, landmark Supreme Court decisions, a black empowerment movement, comprehensive civil rights legislation, and a general embracing of democratic principles by many American citizens. Yet, the word nigger has not died. The relationship between the word nigger and anti-black prejudice is symbiotic: that is, they are interrelated and interconnected, yet, ironically, not automatically interdependent. In other words, a racist society created nigger and continues to feed and sustain it; however, the word no longer needs racism, at least brutal and obvious forms, to exist. Nigger now has a life of its own.
One of the most interesting and perplexing phenomena in American speech is the use of nigger by African Americans. When used by blacks, nigger refers to the following: all blacks ("A nigger can't even get a break."); black men ("Sisters want niggers to work all day long."); blacks who behave in a stereotypical, and sometimes mythical, manner ("He's a lazy, good-for-nothing nigger."); things ("This piece-of-shit car is such a nigger."); foes ("I'm sick and tired of those niggers bothering me!"); and friends ("Me and my niggers are tight.").
This final usage, as a term of endearment, is especially problematic. "Zup Niggah," has become an almost universal greeting among young urban blacks. When pressed, blacks who use nigger or its variants claim the following: it has to be understood contextually; continual use of the word by blacks will make it less offensive; it is not really the same word because whites are saying nigger (and niggers) but blacks are saying niggah (and niggaz); and, it is just a word and blacks should not be prisoners of the past or the ugly words which originated in the past. These arguments are not convincing. Brother (Brotha) and Sister (Sistha or Sista) are terms of endearment. Nigger was and remains a term of derision. Moreover, the false dichotomy between blacks or African Americans (respectable and middle-class) and niggers (disrespectable and lower class) should be opposed. No blacks are niggers, irrespective of behavior, income, ambition, clothing, ability, morals, or skin color. Finally, if continued use of the word lessened its sting then nigger would by now have no sting. Blacks, beginning in slavery, have internalized the negative images that white society cultivated and propagated about black skin and black people. This is reflected in periods of self- and same-race loathing. The use of the word nigger by blacks reflects this loathing, even when the user is unaware of the psychological forces at play. Nigger is the ultimate expression of white racism and white superiority, irrespective of the way it is pronounced. It is a linguistic corruption, a corruption of civility. Nigger is the most infamous word in American culture. Some words carry more weight than others. At the risk of hyperbole, is genocide just another word? Pedophilia? Obviously, no: neither is nigger.
After a period of relative dormancy, the word nigger has been reborn in popular culture. It is hard-edged, streetwise, and it has crossed over into movies like Pulp Fiction (1994) and Jackie Brown (1997), where it became a symbol of "street authenticity" and hipness. Denzel Washington's character in Training Day (2001) uses nigger frequently and harshly.
Richard Pryor long ago disavowed the use of the word in his comedy act, but Chris Rock and Chris Tucker, the new black male comedy kings, use nigger regularly – and not affectionately. Justin Driver, a social critic, argued persuasively that both Rock and Tucker are modern minstrels – shucking, jiving, and grinning, in the tradition of Stepin Fetchit.9
Poetry by African Americans is also instructive, as one finds nigger used in black poetry over and over again. Major and minor poets alike have used it, often with startling results: Imamu Amiri Baraka, one of the most gifted of our contemporary poets, uses nigger in one of his angriest poems, "I Don't Love You."
. . .and what was the world to the words of slick nigger fathers too depressed to explain why they could not appear to be men.10
One wonders: how are readers supposed to understand "nigger fathers"? Baraka's use of this imagery, regardless of his intention, reinforces the stereotype of the worthless, hedonistic Coon caricature. Ted Joans's use of nigger in "The Nice Colored Man" makes Baraka's comparatively harmless and innocent. Joans tells the story about how he came to write this unusual piece. He was, he says, asked to give a reading in London because he was a "nice colored man." Infuriated by the labels "nice" and "colored", Joans set down the quintessential truculent poem. While the poem should be read in its entirety, a few lines will suffice:
. . .Smart Black Nigger Smart Black Nigger Smart Black Nigger Smart Black Nigger Knife Carrying Nigger Gun Toting Nigger Military Nigger Clock Watching Nigger Poisoning Nigger Disgusting Nigger Black Ass Nigger. . .11
This is the poem, with adjective upon adjective attached to the word nigger. The shocking reality is that many of these uses can be heard in contemporary American society. Herein lies part of the problem: the word nigger persists because it is used over and over again, even by the people it defames. Devorah Major, a poet and novelist, said, "It's hard for me to say what someone can or can't say, because I work with language all the time, and I don't want to be limited."12 Opal Palmer Adisa, a poet and professor, claims that the use of nigger or nigga is "the same as young people's obsession with cursing. A lot of their use of such language is an internalization of negativity about themselves."13
Rap musicians, themselves poets, rap about niggers before mostly white audiences, some of whom see themselves as wiggers (white niggers) and refer to one another as "my niggah." Snoop Doggy Dogg, in his single, "You Thought," raps, "Wanna grab a skinny nigga like Snoop Dogg/Cause you like it tall/and work it baby doll." Tupac Shakur, one of the most talented and popular rap musicians, had a song called "Crooked Ass Nigga." The song's lyrics included, "Now I could be a crooked nigga too/When I'm rollin' with my crew/Watch what crooked niggers do/I got a nine millimeter Glock pistol/I'm ready to get with you at the tip of a whistle/So make your move and act like you wanna flip/I fired thirteen shots and popped another clip."14 Rap lyrics which debase women and glamorize violence reinforce the historical Brute Caricature.
Erdman Palmore researched ethnophaulisms and made the following observations: the number of ethnophaulisms used correlates positively with the amount of out-group prejudice; and ethnophaulisms express and support negative stereotypes about the most visible racial and cultural differences.15
White supremacists have found the Internet an indispensable tool for spreading their message of hate. An Internet search of nigger using Netscape or Alta Vista locates many anti-black web pages: Niggers Must Die, Hang A Nigger For America, Nigger Joke Central, and literally thousands of others. Visitors to these sites know, like most blacks know experientially, that nigger is an expression of anti-black antipathy. Is it surprising that nigger is the most commonly used racist slur during hate crimes?
No American minority group has been caricatured as often, in as many ways, as have blacks. These caricatures combined distorted physical descriptions and negative cultural and behavior stereotypes. The Coon caricature, for example, was a tall, skinny, loose-jointed, dark-skinned male, often bald, with oversized, ruby-red lips. His clothing was either ragged and dirty or outlandishly gaudy. His slow, exaggerated gait suggested laziness. He was a pauper, lacking ambition and the skills necessary for upward social mobility. He was a buffoon. When frightened, the Coon's eyes bulged and darted. His speech was slurred, halted, and replete with malapropisms. His shrill, high-pitched voice made whites laugh. The Coon caricature dehumanized blacks, and served as a justification for social, economic, and political discrimination.
Nigger may be viewed as an umbrella term – a way of saying that blacks have the negative characteristics of the Coon, Buck, Tom, Mammy, Sambo, Picaninny, and other anti-black caricatures. Nigger, like the caricatures it encompasses and implies, belittles blacks, and rationalizes their mistreatment. The use of the word or its variants by blacks has not significantly lessened its sting. This is not surprising. The historical relationship between European Americans and African Americans was shaped by a racial hierarchy which spanned three centuries. Anti-black attitudes, values, and behavior were normative. Historically, Nigger more than any word captured the personal antipathy and institutionalized racism directed toward blacks. It still does.
© Dr. David Pilgrim, Professor of Sociology, and Dr. Phillip Middleton, Professor of Languages and Literature, Ferris State University.
Sept., 2001
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1 An earlier version of this paper, entitled "Purposeful Venom Revisited," was published in Gerald E. Matthews (editor), 1999 Journey Towards Nationalism: The Implications of Race and Racism. New York: Farber, pp. 91-93. David Pilgrim is a sociologist; Phillip Middleton is a linguist.
2 Dictionaries typically defined nigger as a synonym for Negro, Black, or dark-skinned people. See, for example, Wentworth, Harold (editor) 1944. American Dialect Dictionary. New York: Thomas Y. Crowell, p. 412. Recent dictionaries are more likely to mention that nigger is a term of contempt. Please read, Charlie M. Williams, "Nigger," [http://kpearson.faculty.tacj.edu/Dictionary/nigger.htm], September 10, 2001.
3 Ehrlich, Howard J. 1973. The Social Psychology of Prejudice. New York: Wiley, p. 22. See also, Schaefer, Richard T. 2000. Racial and Ethnic Groups, 8th edition. New Jersey: Prentice Hall, p. 44.
4 Even innocent words – boy, girl, and uncle – took on racist meanings when applied to blacks.
5 See, Green, Jonathan. 1985. The Dictionary of Contemporary Slang. New York: Stein and Day, p. 190.
6 For a brief analysis of these terms see, Simpson, J.A. (editor). 1989. The Oxford English Dictionary. Oxford: Oxford University Press, pp. 401-405.
7 "The Ten Little Niggers," in Jolly Jingles (No author or publication date given). Chicago: M.A. Donohue & Company.
8 Christie, Agatha. 1939/1978. Ten Little Niggers. Great Britain: William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. Glasgow.
9 Justin Driver, "Black Comedy's Reactionary Hipness: The Mirth of a Nation," [http://www.thenewrepublic.com/061101/driver061101.html], September 7, 2001.
10 Jones, Le Roi. Black Magic Poetry 1961-1967. 1969. New York: The Bobbs-Merrill Company.
11 See Henderson, Stephen. 1972. Understanding the New Black Poetry. William Morrow and Company, pp. 223-225.
12 J. Douglas Allen-Taylor, "New Word Order," [http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/04.09.98/cover/nigger-9814.html], September 7, 2001.
13 Ibid.
14 Shakur, Tupac (1998). "Crooked Ass Nigga," (Online). Available at http://www.rbaworld.com/Music/Rap/Artists/2pac/2pac063.shtml. May 12, 1999.
15 Palmore, Erdman. 1962. 'Ethnophaulisms and Ethnocentrism." American Journal of Sociology 67 (January), pp. 442-445. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 222
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Americans created a racial hierarchy with whites at the top and blacks at the bottom. The hierarchy was undergirded by an ideology which justified the use of deceit, manipulation, and coercion to keep blacks "in their place." Every major societal institution offered legitimacy to the racial hierarchy. Ministers preached that God had condemned blacks to be servants. Scientists measured black heads, brains, faces, and genitalia, seeking to prove that whites were genetically superior to blacks. White teachers, teaching only white students, taught that blacks were less evolved cognitively, psychologically, and socially. The entertainment media, from vaudeville to television, portrayed blacks as docile servants, happy-go-lucky idiots, and dangerous thugs. The criminal justice system sanctioned a double standard of justice, including its tacit approval of mob violence against blacks.
Both American slavery and the Jim Crow caste system which followed were undergirded by anti-black images. The negative portrayals of blacks were both reflected in and shaped by everyday material objects: toys, postcards, ashtrays, detergent boxes, fishing lures, children's books. These items, and countless others, portrayed blacks with bulging, darting eyes, fire-red and oversized lips, jet black skin, and either naked or poorly clothed. The majority of these objects did not use the word nigger; however, many did. In 1874, the McLoughlin Brothers of New York manufactured a puzzle game called "Chopped Up Niggers." Beginning in 1878, the B. Leidersdory Company of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, produced NiggerHair Smoking Tobacco – several decades later the name was changed to BiggerHair Smoking Tobacco. In 1917, the American Tobacco Company had a NiggerHair redemption promotion. NiggerHair coupons were redeemable for "cash, tobacco, S. & H. Green stamps, or presents." |
Abm
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Tonya,
It's startling to observe how much White people have DEPENDED upon deprecating Black people. |
Tonya
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Abm,
Yep. And now you're witnessing the same ploy being recycled by light skinned blacks. Kola has never been more right....Their only desire, as far as blacks are concerned, is to remain on top of the color hierarchy...so much so that they will stoop to emulating the white man’s Jim Crow tactics. But history is too fresh for that kind of madness. There‘s still that line that blacks refuse to let anyone cross....What a way to finally establish just who "we" really are (LOL). |
Ntfs_encryption
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”Yep. And now you're witnessing the same ploy being recycled by light skinned blacks. Kola has never been more right....Their only desire, as far as blacks are concerned, is to remain on top of the color hierarchy...so much so that they will stoop to emulating the white man’s Jim Crow tactics.”
Groan……..Oh God! Here we go again! That hamster in the pin wheel must really be tired by now. No end in sight for the skin color baiters and haters. Ok….let’s try this again: It’s genetics….?
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Tonya
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...That you’re a cyclical half-baked heckler and a fag?--genetics...indeed! |
Urban_scribe
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Fine, fine, fine! YOU PEOPLE win. I’m so tired of beating a dead horse. Therefore, I, Urban Scribe, am publicly announcing on the AALBC forum that I AM NOT BLACK! Happy now?
However, I’d like to point out that I married and had children with Black men. (I’m twice divorced). I speak fluent Ebonics. I make a mean fried chicken, collard greens, corn bread, macaroni and cheese, and sweet potato pie. I’ve got rhythm. I can cornrow and jump double-dutch. I’m working with a big, round smackable ass. I volunteer my time, talents, and skills, as well as donate my money, to a variety of causes aimed at improving the Black community. And my favorite color is red.
But since according to YOU PEOPLE I am not Black, I guess all the above makes me a good old-fashioned
NIGGER LOVER!!!!!
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As long as
Sesame Cracker, Cree-Hole, Bucket-Rainbow, Mongo, Mongrel, Half-Breed, Spic, and Mutt-Ass Bastards don't bother you, then Nigger doesn't bother me. |
Tonya
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NOW they’re making fun of our food, language, rhythm..
recreational sports--good lord!--what's next!?!?
...Sarah Bartman Display?? |
Shemika
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There's certainly more to being black then copying black culture, style and creativity. If that was all there was to it just about all whites would be considered black since copying black style and creativity and taking credit for black contributions is about all they've ever done anyway. This would be one bland country without the history of black input. -Just as some of the European countries are described as being.
But I guess for some, like the borderlines, that is all there is to being black - style or customs. They omit the physical identity that we of visible African decent continue to be persecuted and scorned for while wishing to lay claim to our history and contributions connected to it.
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Ntfs_encryption
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"...That you’re a cyclical half-baked heckler and a fag?--genetics...indeed!"
Ha! Ha! Ha! Naw...I don't think so. Nice try. But you just made my point (again) about the genetic short comings of a 25 brain cell race baiter and vitriolic skin color crazed moron. Not trying to be harsh or disrespectful because it's not your fault. The good news is gene therapy is around the corner. So don't despair! |
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Shemika - what PHYSICAL identity are you talking about?
Dark skin?
Flat noses?
Kinky hair?
Full lips?
These DO NOT make one Black!!!!!
East Indians have some of the darkest skin on the planet - THEY ARE NOT BLACK!
Chinese people have some of the flatest noses on the planet - THEY ARE NOT BLACK!
Germans have some of the kinkiest hair on the planet (i.e. Albert Einstein) - THEY ARE NOT BLACK!
Across the board, people, regardless of ethnic background or racial affiliation, but all types of PEOPLE, period, can and do have naturally full lips. FULL LIPS ARE NOT A TRAIT THAT IS SPECIFIC TO BLACKS!
Now, I grant you, the combination of these traits: dark skin, flat noses, kinky hair, and full lips are MOST PREVALENT amongst Blacks but, BUT they ARE NOT exclusive to Blacks. Therefore, these are weak-ass, totally unreliable indicators of Blackness. Applying these as "proof of Blackness" is just as nonsensical as the sarcasm I posted earlier about being able to cornrow, dance, and fry chicken.
And, Shemika, I'm still waiting for ONE, just ONE "real" Black person on this forum to tell me that they do not have relatives, close relatives: parents, siblings, first cousins and/or grandparents who are as light as I am (perhaps even lighter) yet they STILL consider those relatives Black. I just want ONE of you "real" Black people to fix your mouth to tell me that bullshit!
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Schakspir
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Urban_scribe, I think you mean German JEWS. Also, German ARYANS often have thick lips and are prognathous as well. |
Urban_scribe
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Schakspir,
I stand corrected! |
Brownbeauty123
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Urban_Scribe, what makes an individual Black to you?
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Tonya
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Ntfs, Listen
Listen
Just Listen,
(LOL!!!)
Our discussion on this board isn't changing for you and trailer trash Suzanne. We DON'T CARE how “bored,” “fed-up” and “jaded” you get---(wink, sure, whatever)--because it ain’t our fault you married big-fat-coyote-white-ugly. |
Tonya
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I have people in my family--cousins, nieces, nephews--who don’t consider themselves black...although I have to admit, their mothers are white and Latina---they were raised to consider themselves biracial instead of black. |
Sabiana
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Urban_Scribe, Ntfs_:
Do you realize how useless this is to prove a point that is a different approach or view about colorism on this board? (It scares people)
Maybe US, if you were 10 shades darker, people would listen to you.
And Ntfs, is your white wife pretty? I hope so. Your babies with light skin and good hur will be so pretty. And here I was thinking, Ntfs, that this colorism argument would be more progressive. ONCE AGAIN, we have the whole A.) How much black makes you black B.) You married to a white woman huh? C.) What makes you black?
D.) Light skin women are secretly doing the white man's bidding keeping others blacks down so they can not have a valid say on colorism (when the blame should be on both parties)
E.)Later down the road, there is a 99% chance of me being called a (Sesame Cracker, Cree-Hole,etc)
F.) What did I say? CCSD! CCSD! I swear lets put up a treatment center for it.
Tonya, I like the first article you posted. |
Brownbeauty123
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I just don't see any real signifigance in Urban_Scribe's argument by noting "similarties" that Blacks have with other races. We still have our own identity, as do other races despite them sharing one or two traits. |
Brownbeauty123
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Urban_Scribe,
you come across as VERY insecure in your blackness. Whenever there is a thread about colorism, you become very defensive, make it all about YOU and how black you are, with this paranoia that other posters are specifically ridiculing your "lightskin". Nobody was even discussing who is Black and who ain't Black enough to begin with-- especially in regards to YOU.
Immediately you just came up in here and started your post with some bull about "I'm Not Black" like you were the subject of debate or something. I bet you didn't even read the article, you just saw colorism listed at the top of this thread and that was your cue to run up in here to play victimized.
It's like a guilty pleasure of yours to come here & argue how Black you are. |
Shemika
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Urban_scribe,
I'm assuming you are not black as you stated. So who are you to try to undefined the meaning of blackness? You undercover rednecks don't have a problem telling who’s black when you want to get all into their business so you can apply stereotypes to justify discriminating against them and treating them like shyt do you? You’re sure quick to resent seeing us hired as your peers and to bring up the term ‘affirmative action’ as an insult, or take credit for our work because you know none of your brethren in control gives a damn. The police sure as hell know who they can go after to murder, beat down, or harass without cause and get away with it. And you sure know who to falsely accuse of rape and how to cover up the murders of your own children and spouses by accusing a black person of doing it. YES, you ALL know who’s black when you’re looking for a scapegoat to pull your foul shyt on don’t you? Now all of a sudden you can’t distinguish blacks from Germans with your fake Pollyanna azz routine. You need to take your redneck azz back to the sorry kneegrows that are stupid enough to listen to that shyt because you DO NOT step to me with that crap. I don’t listen to redneck hags.
And you can take that light skinned hogwash back with you. Just like all those slave drivers and other Caucasoids had light skinned black relatives, and they sure as hell didn't claim them. So you’ve got a lot of nerve trying to scold the more African phenotype blacks that you have all looked down upon and tell them what they should or shouldn’t do. Plenty of your so called 'white' azzes have African ancestry and everything else but to let you tell it you're all half Irish and Italian or some other European combo. (not that I find any of it the least bit impressive as they do) -Fake azz liars.
I'm well aware of the house of lies you devils have constructed. But I also know it's centered on the outward appearance. And I won't be taken in by your desperate divide and conqueror rhetoric. Just as you American whites call yourselves European; real blacks over here who have any self respect acknowledge they are still African American. I’m not intrigued by self worshiping Caucasoids who uplift their ancestry and try to dupe blacks into betraying theirs.
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Kola_boof
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Hi Shemika.
She described herself as looking like a full Latina, and of course---because we aren't black enough to represent ourselves---we should be so HONORED to have "her" represent us.
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Shemika
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Thanks Kola, I was rushing so I missed that. But in my opinion most Latino’s consider them selves white anyway, most deny any black ancestry unless they’re up to something. They love to play both sides of the fence and shouldn't be trusted. Ironically, I’ve met a lot of the bi-racials lately that went out of their way to convince everyone that they were fully white even if they don't look it. |
Tonya
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DID Y'ALL CATCH THIS ONE:
((("I volunteer my time, talents, and skills, as well as donate my money, to a variety of causes aimed at improving the Black community.")))
TRANSLATION: HAVEN'T I ALWAY BEEN GOOD TO YOU PEOPLE!?!?!?
ROTFLOL!! |
Urban_scribe
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Brown Beauty - I most certainly did read the article in its entirety. I didn't learn anything new from it. I am familiar with the information imparted in the article. Hopefully, it was of some benefit to someone here.
In any case, if you are so inclined you may check my previous posts since I joined this forum and you'll note that I rarely respond to any threads involving colorism. I replied to this thread because at the top it reads "...or, in this case, Latino looking Blacks..." I took that as a shot at me because in the brief time that I've been on this forum I haven't read of anyone but me describing themselves as such; which Kola confirmed.
Obviously, you haven't been following the threads on this forum too closely in recent days because if you had you'll know what the "I'm not Black" statement was all about. You'll also realize the reason I responded to this thread.
Otherwise it would have just been the same soup warmed over about colorism that's been going on on this forum LONG BEFORE I CAME ALONG and it NEVER GETS RESOLVED. It's just the same soup warmed over and over and over... So, don't point the finger my way when it comes to this whole light-skinned/dark-skinned nonsense because this forum's been harping and harping on skin color since its founding. CHECK THE ARCHIVES.
As for me being insecure in my Blackness, if that's what you think that's what you think. I've been Black for 40 years and do not need to explain myself to the likes of you or any other members of this forum.
Bottom line, YOU PEOPLE are of NO consequence in my life. Other than your personal attacks, immaturity, narrow mindedness, second-guessing, picking apart, and twisting everything I type - NONE of you have the AUTHORITY to UN-BLACK me!
So, really, if it makes you feel better about yourselves, better about your Blackness, picking on the high yella girl - knock yourselves out! At the end of the day it's a moot point.
Furthermore, it is a damn good thing that I've "always been good to you people" because I volunteer two days per week, four hours per day at an inner-city public library tutoring impoverished Black children. I help them with their homework, I give them books to read, I take them to the local McDonald's or pizzeria and feed them - out of my pocket.
And guess what, their Black fathers aren't around to do it - most of them never even met their Black fathers. And their Black mothers are laying up in the projects with some nigger and their kids can't come inside the apartment and so much as use the bathroom because "ma got company."
You want to know something else, I don't see not ONE Black, Black adult volunteering in their OWN community, helping their OWN children to read better, to write better, encouraging them to get a good education, keeping them off the street, making sure their bellies are full, making sure they're safe while their project, welfare-monger mother's getting fucked!
So, all of YOU PEOPLE ought to be really fucking GRATEFUL because apparently THIS insecure, high yella, mulatto, cree-hole, mongrel, custard, imitation White bitch is doing a helluva lot more to help your Black people than most of you are. All you want to do is TALK about who's light and who's dark; who's Black and who's not Black.
PLEASE!
Why don't you people grow the fuck up, cut the petty bullshit, and get off your asses and DO SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH A DAMN TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY!
I guess it's not my place to make such a request since I'm not one of YOUR KIND. THANK. GOD. FOR. SMALL. FUCKING. FAVORS. |
Mzuri
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US - You go girl! You're right, we should all do more within our own communities. Thanks for setting the example. |
Sabiana
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Urban_Scribe, no one would never called out you're insecurity about being black if you had dark skin. You would have been considered charitable. Funny. For the light-skinned women who do, black women like them are the reason why.
"All you want to do is TALK about who's light and who's dark; who's Black and who's not Black."
Which, in my assumptions on this board, is why nothing ever gets done in the black community.
"So, really, if it makes you feel better about yourselves, better about your Blackness, picking on the high yella girl - knock yourselves out! At the end of the day it's a moot point."
Because they are so insecure about their own blackness it raises their own low self-esteem to make someone feel beneath themselves. I agree completly in your beliefs. It's pointless though for you to argue. You are a black woman with light skin. You of course have no say unless you do not show a backbone and agree with the majority. You will always be questioned on your blackness, no matter what you do, how you do it, in the way you do it.
In the end US, do you consider yourself a black woman? In the end, Urban_Scribe, YOU, and what you think you are, are the only things that matter. And to me, YOU ARE A BLACK WOMAN. For 40 years right?
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Shemika
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Urban_scribe,
Yeah right. I suppose all you Latinos or whatever you are must be virgin Marys so that gives you the right to make these racist comments against black mothers. I don't believe a damn thing you’re saying. And the fact you presume to know what anyone here does or don’t do shows you are just a liar making excuses to inject racist comments and talk shyt. As if you’ve got room to talk. Your little dramatizations don’t impress me, only color struck coons fall for that BS. |
Ntfs_encryption
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"I suppose all you Latinos or whatever you are must be virgin Marys so that gives you the right to make these racist comments against black mothers. I don't believe a damn thing you’re saying. And the fact you presume to know what anyone here does or don’t do shows you are just a liar making excuses to inject racist comments and talk shyt. As if you’ve got room to talk. Your little dramatizations don’t impress me, only color struck coons fall for that BS."
Ya know, just like a dermatologist may prescribe isotretinoin to address a severe acne problem, drugs like risperidone and olanzapine could possibly cure the above drivel. It's certainly worth a try. |
Sabiana
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And the fact you presume to know what anyone here does or don’t do shows you are just a liar making excuses to inject racist comments and talk shyt.
This is what people are exactly presuming about her because of her light skin. Damn Us, you should have lied and said you came straight from Africa!
So Shemika, CREE-HOLE, HAlF-BREED, TWO FACED BITCH, etc are not racist comments? Does it bother you because to you, it has some truth? Or are you that deluded by colorism? If someone else, let's say Kola, said the same thing would you taken it that way? No one can get over the fact that she has light skin, therefore some idiot black man will find her more pretty than you. Childish isn't it.
Ntfs_, is this not CCSD or what! Genetics.... |
Kola_boof
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But Sabiana,
Urban_Scribe isn't even HALF.
And I called her those names for her initial remarks (she being the moderator of a Non-Black board coming here as "Miss Anne" to save us all)----and for Psychological reasons---namely to set the example of an African woman DEFINING what I consider our enemy in terms that have traditionally been saved for only the homeliest, darkest girls.
I don't call White women "BITCHES" because it's right....I call them that because it's necessary.
And Psychologically, we need to have black children WITNESS US be-damning those images that be-damn us.
If a child witnesses its MAID mother bowing and standing in the shadows---then a child assumes that's where its mother belongs.
But if a child witnesses its mother ASSERTING her identity---REFUSING to share it with her enemy and completely rejecting the IMAGE of those who would usurp said identity---then the child now has a STANDARD that has been set by the parent.
Urban_Scribe is NOT a black woman and she has no respect for Black people whatsoever. She really is a CRACKER CREE-HOLE two faced bitch in my opinion.
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Schakspir
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Kola: Urban_Scribe is NOT a black woman and she has no respect for Black people whatsoever. She really is a CRACKER CREE-HOLE two faced bitch in my opinion.
Schakspir: and neither are you, Arab.
BTW say hello to Cliff for all of us--and Tiddleywinks!! |
Urban_scribe
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Kola Boof wrote:
Urban_Scribe isn't even HALF.
What do you know of my racial/ethnic/national background? I only posted a general description of myself. I've never gone into details and specifics. Once again, you just pull shit out your eczema-stricken ass!
Kola, my dearest Ms. Boof, given your mental instability, which has now become apparent to even your most loyal followers, I will not engage in a long drawn-out debate with you. I wouldn't want anyone to believe that I have no sympathy for the mentality incapacitated.
As everyone can see, I refrained from commenting on any of the Cliff/Jamal threads because I actually feel sorry for you and your fragile mind. I'm surprised those close to you haven't intervened in your best interest. You know, if you ever really piss off your baby daddy, he could very easily use this forum to prove you unfit.
Shouldn't you be somewhere playing with your imaginary friends?
I tried to warn you about the pink elephants! |
Sabiana
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Kola,
Do you consider your father to be a black man?
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Kola_boof
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No.
He was Arab and became a heroin addict because of the rejection he faced from Dinka and Nuer regarding his "race".
His dream, however, was to have black sons, which is why he sought out and purchased my charcoal mother from her father.
My sister Spring, who I am closest to, is also not "Black" to me, she is a mulatto, but you would call her black.
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Semperfemme
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"Why don't you people grow the fuck up, cut the petty bullshit, and get off your asses and DO SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH A DAMN TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY!"
You mean actually do something to change the system and instill a sense of self preservation and motivation in the black youth? BLASPHEMER!
Light skin vs. Dark skin is WAY MORE important than say...increasing mathematics literacy in young black girls. But I guess that would involve other unreasonable requests like;
1. Turning off the television
or
2. Holding parents responsible for the behavior of not only themselves but their parents.
Shemika: What US described DOES happen. FREQUENTLY. Especially in lower income black neighborhoods where women suffer from distorted self image and sometimes a profound lack of self-worth.
Young boys stand outside and harass girls as they walk to work. All the while thinking it's okay that THEY stand around and collect while the women in their lives (mothers and girlfriends) bring home the bacon. Little bastards need to be sent to the Marine Corps, beat the honor and respect into them that their fathers didn't. |
Shemika
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Sabiana & Ntfs_encryption,
The only reason you two engage in such selective observation in favor of borderlines and rednecks is that you're nothing but coons or imposters yourselves.
And the fact Sabiana actually wanted Urban_scribe to pretended to be African demonstrates her scorn, contempt and blatant disrespect for blacks as well as her devotion and submission to anything non-black that comes down the pike.
Its color struck dips and imposters like you that have always sought to help the white supremacist keep blacks down. Assuming you are black you’re just the types that would assist whites in killing someone like Malcolm X or rat out slaves for seeking to escape the plantation or sassing massah behind his back.
You are either do-nothing step and fetch-it coons or fraudulent trolls wishing to stifle any potential black awareness and progressive communication by interfering with efforts to address modern day racism or defend our black honor. You have no respect for blackness regardless your phenotype. You are a detriment to the black race.
What’s also amazing is how Ntfs_encryption , who is supposedly black, could be so hate filled and crass as to actually suggest drugging another black person for speaking out against white supremacy and colorism simply because he disagrees with them.
This brutal desire to control every thought and action of blacks is consistent with white acts such as terrorism, unjust institutionalization and other unspeakable violations traditionally taken against blacks for infractions like opposing white supremacy, looking whites in the eye or whatever other lame excuse they conjured up. Ironically, just like you, those criminally insane racists you admire also defined blacks attempting to escape slavery as mentally ill. - Sounds like you’re the one who’s mentally ill for agreeing with them and acting like them.
The day may come when you run looking for the pro-blacks you now scorn to help support or protect you from those whose redneck azzes you’ve been licking and you’ll be distressed to find nothing but another coon staring back at you just like the one in your mirror.
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Tonya
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Excuse me, Urban_scribe,
((("Kola, my dearest Ms. Boof, given your mental instability, which has now become apparent to even your most loyal followers...")))
I really don’t mean to post, but I HAVE TO get this one thing clear:
I was calling ALL OF Y’ALL crazy…amongst the most notorious being you:
One minute you’re this inner-city straight shooter, down for people aficionada…kicking style..preaching rhetoric..like Angela Davis and stubbunubbuz. And then the next minute you do a 180 and take a Susan Smith nose dive to klansville??
Now, I’m no psychologist, but if that’s not multiple psycho-split-schizophrenia..
tell me..what is?? |
Shemika
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Semperfemme,
There's nothing wrong with doing things in the community, but there are many different approaches to it. People who engage in community service are usually involved in a variety of things. If community work means so much to you why don't YOU just do it instead of using it as an excuse to intrude on conversations you disagree with? I feel the way you abruptly intruded about it is very insincere and fake. Why don't you start your own thread like someone sincerely interested in community work would have sense enough to do? Do you normally jump up in the movie theater or in the middle of someone else’s conversation any other time and tell them to go do community work? You don't even know who you're talking to. Are ya high? |
Urban_scribe
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At least I'm not concocting imaginery paramours.
At least when I resign from a forum, I don't announce my departure by starting a new thread. I just leave quietly and STAY GONE! I don't return THE SAME DAY, that I supposedly left for good, and post not once but TWICE.
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
The only true statement you made is: I'm no psychologist.
You and Kola are both starved for attention. The two of you deserve each other. I guess you two can hear the voices in the other's head.
Whatever Happened to Baby Jane meets Gaslight! |
Sabiana
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And the fact Sabiana actually wanted Urban_scribe to pretended (you mean pretend?) to be African demonstrates her scorn, contempt and blatant disrespect for blacks as well as her devotion and submission to anything non-black that comes down the pike.
I had no idea you were a psycology major. Do you know me in real life? Have I even met you? Oh, you think you know me. Are you reading my posts? Why shouldn't she consider herself black? Do you want her to seperate herself from her blackness and join her own community (one you would claim to hate) because she lacks melanin in her skin? Could it possibly be *gasp* that all repersentations of black women should be on this board, removing the caste system by doing so? Should we not value all shades of black women to Alek Wek to Blu Cantrell? Some of things Urban_Scribe said were indeed wrong and
but in direct counter claim on the ones you would put on her. Tragic Light Skin Black Girl. Both sides were wrong. But in your case
"Lordy Lordy Lordy, hold on Miss Rose is gets ya water now! Such pretty hur you got Miss Rose!"
So if I agree with a light skinned woman, I automatically worship a white woman? Such a
narrow mind you have Shemika. Honestly believe
what you want to. Why bother in wasting a point
when your view is already tainted with the
permanent stain of colorism. It will humor me
for endless days on your stupidity and
ignorance. I know who I am. She knows who she
is. Do you? By what narrow guide lines do you define a black woman Shemika?
P.S. Did you take Genetics in high school? Do understand how diverse black americans are as well as Africans in some cases. Two dark skinned parents can give birth to a light skinned child by way of an ancestor. Did you know that? Would you consider the child any less black than her parents? Nose features and hair are null and void now. We can't stay in the 1800's forever. I'm tingling for your reply. Your answer will cause a heart-attack with surprise.
Nice post by the way. You really cut me bad. (Look of hurt crosses my face)
Kola, what I meant was, wasn't your father partly black also? |
Prettybabygirl
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Sabiana, Africans don't consider "part black" to be "black". That's an American slave system rule created by whites and passed down to us because we were slaves in America.
I notice people from the islands and Brazil are the same way. You have to be "black" to be black.
Mixed have their own category.
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Semperfemme
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Shemika: With a name like "Shemika", I'd have other people to question about their highness besides me. Secondly, I DO do community service which is why I open my fat mouth in the first place. Besides activism, I actually take the time to talk to black women in those impoverished conditions I mentioned. ANOTHER reason I open my fat mouth. See unlike you, I have experience with being in the shit and seeing the shit, so I don't just go on assinine tirades because someone says something I can't handle.
Further more, this is America, internet, and an open forum which gives me the right to intrude on whatever conversation I feel fit to jump into. Considering my enrollment in Marine DEP and upcoming transistion into the Corps, I have every right to tell you to shut the fuck up. I'm serving my community and my country. You're waving some fake me out African moniker around and acting like you're someone's savior.
Further more why don't YOU get the fuck up and do something consider how much you complain.
So you can take your little self pitying party line bullshit and shove it. |
Semperfemme
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Shemika- Looking to protect the same FREEDOM that allows you spew your obnoxious bullshit without fear of punishment.
That's Black power. |
Mzuri
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At least I'm not concocting imaginery paramours.
At least when I resign from a forum, I don't announce my departure by starting a new thread. I just leave quietly and STAY GONE! I don't return THE SAME DAY, that I supposedly left for good, and post not once but TWICE.
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
That is a little tacky isn't it. These people know nothing about forum decorum. LOL.
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Nels
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PrettyBabyGirl --
"Sabiana, Africans don't consider "part black" to be "black". That's an American slave system rule created by whites and passed down to us because we were slaves in America.
I notice people from the islands and Brazil are the same way. You have to be "black" to be black.
Mixed have their own category."
Now that's about the most simplified and sensible explanation I've heard in a very long time. |
Shemika
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SemperFEMME,
Just like I thought, you're nothing but a spineless bag of hot wind looking for someone to brag and talk shyt to. If you think I'm impressed by your BS credentials you are sadly mistaken. What’s the matter, can’t find a woman or man willing to listen to your nonsense? Well, don’t expect me to entertain such hogwash either; take it to another airhead like your self that cares. The only community service you're capable of is self promotion and posturing. I couldn't imagine an airhead that actually thinks he's got the right to tell anyone crossing his path what to do could be of any use to anyone, silly, jarhead gate keeping idiot. I guess all the Police State rumors have gone to your chickenshyt head. And let’s not forget your primary occupation: butt buddy FAGGOT.
And we all know how stupid azz white supremacists like you corner the market on spewing obnoxious BS and lies in the name of white power. That's why you get agitated and try to do everything you can to attack anyone black who stands up against it. You're the fat mouth talking shyt as if any one cares; I know I don’t, dipweed. No one cares about your opinion so you know what you can do with it. |
Semperfemme
Regular Poster
Username: Semperfemme
Post Number: 42
Registered: 07-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 11:25 am: |
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Shemika: Blah Blah Blah, talking nonsense to cover your ass. That's why you get blasted so much. And I always thought;
"Well it's (you) a little dumb...can't separate paragraphs for shit but you know..."
And now I see that you're just a big cum guzzling idiot. I'm a female (hence the femme at the end of my name), Marine Corps trains women completely separate from men on Parris Island, so...how am I a faggot and how could I be anyone's butt buddy?
But I forgot, this is the wonderful world of Shemika, where everyone wants something for nothing and nobody knows what the hell they're talking about.
And yes, I will BRAG about serving and no, I don't CARE about your being impressed. I'm about to represent the best branch of the military this side of the Atlantic. I know it kills you since you're only serving tea and photocopies to the white man's daughters, which could explain why you talk a good complaining game but don't want to actually get out there and make a difference. Who's the porchmonkey now?
And so I will still tell you to shut the fuck up. I'm not a "jarhead" yet, but when I get back from BCT I'll definitely let you know.
Yeah, I'm such a white supremacist. Someone get this bitch an adderall. I wish I could kick little shits like you out of this country but I guess we just have to deal with you.
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Shemika
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Shemika
Post Number: 150
Registered: 02-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:12 pm: |
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You must be describing yourself; you're the one talking nonsense to cover YOUR azz. I'm not the one who busted up in here talking off topic and slinging BS accusations at strangers, YOU did.
All I did was instruct your backward azz to at least have the manners to start your own thread if you were going off topic like that. Apparently you have such a small mind you couldn’t handle constructive criticism. Your attitude alone is enough to prove what a half cocked lunatic fraud you are.
It’s obvious you don’t know a damn thing about community service. Nothing you are doing is about community service. Your temperament leans more toward community terrorism, trying to be a bully and a show off - aka tyrant. Did you help tie up captives so your comrades could sodomize them too? I bet you call that 'community service'. Yeah right. Who are you kidding, the only other reason you're there besides being an air head is for the government pay check.
See ya.
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Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2786
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:59 pm: |
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Semper,
Is that a German last name?
It is your last name isn't it?
Do you have one white parent and one black, like me?
There's a paradox in your rants.
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Dagosauce
Newbie Poster
Username: Dagosauce
Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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Semper Fidelis is Latin for "always faithful".
The "intelligence" in here is killing me.
HUA Semperfemme |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4877
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 12:13 am: |
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"Semper Fidelis" is also the motto of the U. S. Marine Corps, an organization which consists of a "few good men", some of whom rape 15-year-old Iraqi girls before killing them and their families. |
Semperfemme
Regular Poster
Username: Semperfemme
Post Number: 45
Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:04 am: |
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Dagosauce: Thanks Dago, people like you really keep me going. Sometimes I lay in bed and think about whether or not I'm doing the right thing, but the benefits of the Corps far outweigh any so called "sacrifice." Who knows, maybe I'll be able to afford that Astrophysics education after my GI Bill kicks in. Couple that with an MOS in Data Systems (includes computer programming) and I have the ultimate in job training and tuition reimbursement. LOL! By the time I get off the the island I'm going to be a lean mean MS-16 wielding machine.
I'm getting myself all excited again. OOORAH!
Cynique:Here in the college community some would call what you said a "Straw Argument" with a dash of "Jumping to Unjustified Conclusions." I don't know what you're trying to say, but guess what? Every branch in the field has a an asshole or five who do something idiotic or just plain macabre...I'd hope you're not condemning the service for the acts of a few men. That would fall under faulty logic as well.
Kola: There's a paradox in nothing. What dummy what use their last name on an internet message board? I watch the news, that's how 15 year old girls get snatched. I am a descendant of slaves on both sides of my family, as I said before. My mother and father are both 100% Black American. |
Yukio
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yukio
Post Number: 1465
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:26 am: |
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this thread is too long for my ol eyes...i would like to ask you tonya...what exactly is light skinned to you?
Are you talking about folk with recognizably socalled european features or just lighter skin than the socalled prototypical west african? |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4882
Registered: 01-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:36 am: |
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Well, semperfemme, for someone who doesn't know what I'm trying to say, you didn't hesitate to try to launch a rebuttal. Whatever. Pardon me, if I'm unimpressed with gung ho G.I. Janes. BTW, is the college community familiar with the definition and origin of the term gung ho? |
Semperfemme
Regular Poster
Username: Semperfemme
Post Number: 49
Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:56 am: |
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Cynique: Yeah, we're also familiar with term "dumb ho." and tactical evasion. You're good with the first one though, but not the second. Oh well. |
Cynique
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4884
Registered: 01-2004
Rating:
Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 11:07 am: |
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Speakin of dumb hos, when are they going to ship your ass to Iraq so you can program the minds of the victims of collateral damage into thinking Americans are their liberators??? |
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