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hollywood: Inside the industry.

Disney Exec Backs Mel

But will the rest of Hollywood follow along?
By Kim Masters

Posted Monday, July 31, 2006, at 2:00 PM ET

Are we really surprised at Mel Gibson's drunken anti-Semitic outburst last week? After his wink-wink Holocaust denials in the past? Probably not. The question is whether Hollywood will continue to countenance him. Disney is set to release his next movie; Oren Aviv, the new head of the Disney film studio, says he is prepared to forgive and forget.

For those who might not remember, Gibson's father is a Holocaust denier, and Gibson, pressed on the subject before the opening of The Passion of the Christ, said Dad had never lied to him in his life.

He also offered some choice Holocaust-denier code talk: Many people died in World War II and some of them were Jews. And we've heard that he didn't quite take the Jewish blood-curse language out of his movie—just the English subtitle. Since our dead languages are rusty, fact-checking this is tricky. God knows if it's true, if you know what we mean. Gibson's publicist, Alan Neirob, declined to offer any enlightenment on the matter.

Gibson has apologized for his recent outburst and said he didn't mean what he said (which was, among other niceties, "Fucking Jews … The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world"). And of course, he was drunk. Certainly in our own limited experience with inebriation, we've never found ourselves inclined to articulate opinions utterly foreign to us. Given Gibson's Holocaust-denying history, it's hard to argue that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Even in his apology, Gibson fudged. "I am deeply ashamed of everything I said, and I apologize to anyone who I have offended," he said. "Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved for my belligerent behavior." We can see that Gibson had a lot of ground to cover here—he threatened to get one cop fired and called another "sugar tits." But still—he can single out a few deputies for an apology without a word for millions of Jews? Asked why Gibson didn't address his slurs directly, publicist Nierob offered a bold "No comment."

Disney is set to release Gibson's Apocalypto in December—the same Disney that recently announced plans to slash its staff and its production slate while it pursues more family-oriented movies worthy of the company brand. Certainly Apocalypto won't be one of those, as it deals with human sacrifice and the bloody fate of the Mayan people. You can be sure the subject has provided Gibson ample opportunity to indulge his well-established appetite for gore.

Aviv, who recently ascended to head of the Disney film studio, happens to be a committed member of the tribe that Gibson seems to blame for everything. It is well-known in Hollywood that Aviv stopped speaking to director Michael Mann in the weeks before the release of The Insider because Mann was rude and disrespectful. In fact, there are those who say that Aviv vowed never to work with Mann again. We asked Aviv whether he might also be annoyed by anti-Semitic invective and received the following statement:

"The rumored incident in regards to Michael Mann happened over seven years ago … it's behind us. He's a talented director and I respect his body of work. I've worked with Mel on several films over the years and we have a great relationship. We all make mistakes and I've accepted his apology to what was a regrettable situation. I wish him the very best on his path to healing."

Perhaps Aviv is showing greatness of spirit here. But while we're on the subject of fudging, note that he doesn't say he would work with Mann again, talented or not.

Will the rest of Hollywood follow Disney's lead? Some in the industry vowed not to work with Gibson after his earlier performance: Dances With Facts About the Holocaust. Yet when the big Passion grosses rolled in, many couldn't wait to embrace him. It's a business that will forgive just about anything if the hits keep coming.

Some in Hollywood argue that artists must be forgiven their excesses. Even after Roman Polanski went on the lam after he was charged with drugging and sodomizing a child, many in Hollywood's top ranks were prepared to welcome him back. And these are not simple questions. How many Gauguin canvases would you give up if the artist in exchange didn't abandon his wife and five children and knocked up fewer young girls in the Third World? What if you were responsible for chatting Gauguin up as you financed and promoted his disease-spreading adventures? Once you've got all that figured out, how do you think Mel Gibson stacks up as an artist against Gauguin, and what bargain would you make there?

Back to more tangible concerns. One prominent producer says he already has an idea to help Disney maximize its gains on the upcoming Gibson Apocalypto by launching a new theme-park attraction. "You get in a speeding car," he suggests, "while a hologram of a drunken Mel Gibson follows you shouting 'Fucking Jew!' "

http://www.slate.com/id/2146881

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Gibson outburst 'was covered up'

By Chris Ayres in Los Angeles


ALLEGATIONS that police in Malibu tried to cover up an anti-Semitic outburst by Mel Gibson are to be investigated by an independent review body. The actor and director was stopped for alleged drunk driving early on Friday. A bottle of tequila was reportedly found on the back seat of his car.



The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department said that Mr Gibson had been pulled over while speeding at 87mph (140km/h) and arrested “without incident”.

But according to a website, the arresting officer’s original report said: “Gibson blurted out anti-Semitic remarks about ‘f***ing Jews’ [and] yelled out ‘The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world,’ then asked: ‘Are you a Jew?’ ”

Mr Gibson, 50, who directed the controversial film The Passion of the Christ — interpreted by some as blaming the Jews for the execution of Jesus — has already apologised for his “despicable” behaviour.

However, the apology was overshadowed by the publication of a section of the arresting officer’s handwritten report. The extract, on TMZ.com, suggested that the original report had been heavily edited.

James Mee, the arresting officer, wrote that Mr Gibson’s behaviour was highly emotional from the moment he pulled him over. His report says: “Gibson angrily stated . . . ‘My life is f***ed’ . . . [and] became fixated on his notoriety and the concern that this incident was going to be publicised. In order to calm Gibson’s concerns, I directed [him] to the back seat of the patrol car, telling him that, if he remained co-operative, I would interview him without handcuffing.”

At this point Mr Gibson appears to have attempted to flee.Deputy Mee wrote: “Gibson bolted . . . as he said ‘I’m not going to get in the car’.”

The officer caught Mr Gibson, who stopped resisting but is reported to have begun verbally abusing and threatening the officer, saying: “You motherf***er. I’m going to f*** you. You’re going to regret you ever did this to me.” The tirade allegedly continued inside the car, where the anti-Semitic outburst allegedly took place.

Mike Gennaco, head of the Office of Independent Review, told the Los Angeles Times that an investigation would begin today into the apparent editing of the report. “All that stuff about favourable treatment is something that needs to be looked at,” he said. “I’d like to see if there was a legitimate law enforcement reason for asking that the report be altered.”

He added that he would also look into Mr Gibson’s financial links to the department. In 2002 Mr Gibson served as a “celebrity representative” for the Star Organisation, which provides financial aid to the children of Sheriff’s Department officers killed while on duty.

Sheriff Lee Baca told the newspaper there was no cover up, saying: “Our job is not to [focus] on what [Mr Gibson] said. It’s to establish his blood-alcohol level when he was driving and proceed with the case.”

Mr Gibson issued a lengthy apology over the weekend.

---Times Online

Related Links:


http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=22&ContentID=2131

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5230480.stm
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 06:57 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've always despised GIBSON since the night he dissed Naomi Campbell on Jay Leno's show.

LENO, who was drooling over Campbell and making a big deal, welcomed Mel Gibson as his next guest---and immediately asked Leno, "Isn't she gorgeous?"

GIBSON, looking perturbed, looked over at Naomi and said rather shittily--"Well, if you're into that kinda thing."

Naomi laughed it off, but I've never liked him since.



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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 07:06 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He's a fucking head case. He didn't do Christians any favors with his overzealous crazy-ass antics.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 08:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mel Gibson should die!!! And so should all of those white motherfuckers like him!!!

Mel Gibson is gay anyway!! Everybody in Hollywood knows that.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 08:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is much ado about nothing. The Sheriffs and LAPD always doctor reports (usually to cover up police department misdeeds.)

You mean to tell me that pedophile Woody Allen can continue to make movies and Hollywood is going to shun Mel Gibson for some nonsensical, drunken comments? Haters are still mad because he Mel made $640 million with "The Passion".
Another hit movie, and all will be forgiven.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 09:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Mel Gibson should die!!! And so should all of those white motherfuckers like him!!!"

Hmmmmmm....well...that is a very scholarly and intellectually thought provoking idea. Got more?
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 09:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well. I'm NO defender or apologist of Mel Gibson. But the Jews have been gunning for dude since "The Passion of the Christ".

And it seems they've GOT his a$$ NOW.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 09:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dude's gottah REALLY hate him some Jews for all this hatred to come spewing forth in a situation that really didn't in anyway concern or involve Jewish people.

You can about imagine the kinds of hateful shyt dude grew up in and be relaying to his kids.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am not taking up for Mel, but so far what he supposedly said MAY have been taken out of context. The source of much of this is tmj.com, which is run by Harvey Levin. BTW, whatever happened to the media's favorite phrase:

Innocent until proven guilty?
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mel's father said that the Holocaust NEVER HAPPENED and Mel, through silence, backed his father up on that.

Mel has made other Anti-Jewish comments in the past as well. But it's not just Jews---he's made some very curious comments about "blacks"---and in one of the LETHAL WEAPON movies, he changed the script so that Danny Glover's "teenaged" daughter would be having sexual fantasies about him at the dinner table and sexually pursuing him. Glover, who was offended, was not a big enough star back then to have the script changed back.



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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, so Mel is a drunken fool.

He's been in Hollywood a long time, are folks just now figuring this out? As long as his movies make BIG $$$ -which they do- it's all good???

Like I said, that pedophile Woody Allen continues to make movies and be popular after seducing and then marrying his girlfriend's daughter. yuuuuuuuuuk.

Roman Polanski won an Oscar even though he had to flee the country because of alleged child molestation.

Compared to these sickos what Mel allegedly did/ said, while not right, is certainly forgiveable.

Hollywood is filled with self-righteous, greedy hypocrites.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mel wasn't DRUNK when he did the shit I just mentioned in the post before yours.

And he DESPISES black women, so I can't imagine why you're taking up for him.

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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 03:53 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robynmarie,

Both Allen and Polanski are Jewish.

Hollywood's run by Jews.

And Mel Gibson HATES...Jews.


See the difference?
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Abm-
I see the Hollywood hyprocrisy.

They is no way you can convince me being a pedpophile is better than spewing bigoted statements when you are drunk and being arrested.
Besides, much of what we are hearing is being spun by the so-called Jewish media.

I would like to hear the tape of the actual encounter.
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Ooops- typo- I mean "There is no way..."

Kola-
I am not condoning what MG said, but if MG "despises" black women so much, why would Danny Glover, one of the greatest humanitarians of our time, work with MG in all those "Lethal Weapons" movies?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 10:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robynmarie,

Perhaps the your question to Kola can be answered in single word: CASH.

Danny probably did like A LOT of Black people in his position does: Determined that sometimes you must take some of what the devil has to offer to kill him. 'Course. That's often a most precariously DANGEROUS game to play.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 11:02 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The man's a Catholic. They believe the Jews killed Jesus (plus there is the little problem of the Jews not believing he is the Messiah or the Son of God and throwing all their claims into doubt)

He ain't the only one.

Hollywood is going with the flow of the dough. When he can't make no more money they will dump him.

Isn't it something, though--if the Jews don't control the movie industry, why is this an issue?

Hmmm?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

Yep. The fact that foks are already declaring that Gibson's career, which has arguably been the most LUCRATIVE of any movie career in the last 20 years, is KAPUT is proof POSITIVE that the Jews have (and really always has had) a stranglehold on the movie industry (and to a great degree the overall media sector ['sector' - combination of interrelated & connected industries]).

But, because Gibson HAS made so much dough for some many JEWS, they likely would give him a chance, provided he starts to kiss him some SERIOUS Hebrew Hiney.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abm
I just heard on MSNBC that MG apologized again and "seeks a meeting with Jewish leaders."
Disney has cancelled the mini series about the holocaust MG was set to direct.
Let the "I am sooooo sorry" tour begin.
First stop-Oprah Winfrey.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robynmarie,

Well. For his sake, he'd BETTER pull that Oprah gig, PRONTO! 'Cause, hell, if there's ANYBODY who can save a mofo from the kind of public scorn and castigation that's headed Gibson's way, it is The Great & Powerful Oprah.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's interesting. 'Cause Gibson's got cash out the ying-yang. Hell. If he never made another movie, the next 10 generations of Gibson Nazi apologists will never have to work the lunch hour crew at Mickey D's.

If he truly were a man of (albiet hateful) conviction, he could tell Hollywood to fuhkoff and start doing Neo Nazi and White Power commercials or something.
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It's like you said before, MG has made mega-bucks for many in Hollywood, including the Jews who are now castigating him. Money is all that matters, and MG will be forgiven.

BTW, while what MG said was vicious and absurd, you best know, that kind of rant goes on about Blacks and Mexicans every day by the powers that be in La-La land.
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I don't know why everyone wants to act so damn shocked and offended. From time to time, everyone has hateful and prejudice thoughts against those who aren't like them (from color, to faith, to gender, to social class). The many exchanges on this board prove my point precisely --because most everyone here has writtten something hateful and prejudice regarding a light-skin black(s), dark-skin black(s), white (european), asian, indian, west-indian, latino, fat, thin, ugly, attractive, rich, or poor person/groups of people. However, Mel Gibson is in a position where he is so well-known, so wealthy and so easily targeted. IMO, no one here or outside of cyberspace is any different than Mel Gibson --his ass just got "caught".

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"I don't know why everyone wants to act so damn shocked and offended. From time to time, everyone has hateful and prejudice thoughts against those who................ no one here or outside of cyberspace is any different than Mel Gibson --his ass just got "caught"."

This is very true.

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Moonsigns,

Gibson is not just a bigot. He's a bigot that wields an enormous amount of POWER. None of us on this board--except ABM and maybe a few others--can go around firing motherhumpers and witch-slapping an entire police department!

(*Notice my effortless triumph over the obscene *tehee*)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 09:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya,

I am, indeed, strong. But, surely, you give me too much credit.

Hahahahaha!!!
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Moonsigns,

Good point.

We all, indeed, have our prejudices and biases. Perhaps the difference between Mel Gibson and MOST of the rest of us is our avoiding PUBLICLY regaling others of such.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 07:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An unofficial poll conducted by a Chicago TV station revealed that more people agreed with Mel Gibson than didn't and those who back him would continue to go see his movies. There are a lot of closet anti-semitics out there.
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Cynique,

There always has been and likely always WILL be some undercurrent of anti-Jewish sentiments.

I agree Gibson likely will have an audience for what he does. Whether the shyt can be financed, advertised and distributed is a very DIFFERENT matter.

We shall see...
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After all the profits that Gibson made from the Passion of The Christ (he supposedly banked over $100m) getting financing for his future projects is probably the least of his concerns. But I think his reputation is trashed for good and no amount of money can buy that back.

And to answer the original post, I think that if there was a cover up that we wouldn't have heard word one about it.

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Mzuri,

Yes, "The Passion" made a shytload of dough. Yet, although it was cleverly marketed, it was mostly the lure of its unique SUBJECT MATTER that mostly drove the success of that project.

Gibson wholly bankrolled the movie. But I seriously DOUBT he'd want to risk doing that for every subsequent movie he does.

No wise business man who actually LIKES his money continue to do such a thing.

And many potential financiers might have some serious concerns/reservations about allying their names, reputation and +100 million dollar investments with someone who's suddenly become the world's more famous living anti-Semite, especially if their may be advertisers and distributors who might boycott him.

I think he could get past his troubles, largely through some strategically displayed Jewish a$$kissin'. But it will not be as easy for him (at least not as, apparently, it was for him to show his naiked a$$ on film...Hehehehe!!!).
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 01:24 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the economics lesson. Do U ever go to sleep?
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 02:25 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Except for weekends and vacations, I seldom sleep more than 4 hours per night. It sort of started when I was both working and attending college full time. And it worsened after my first kid was born (which, I imagine, is a most COMMON parental affliction).
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 02:30 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Seems like the Jewish-run media has all of you in a tizzy.
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 03:43 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Except for weekends and vacations, I seldom sleep more than 4 hours per night. It sort of started when I was both working and attending college full time. And it worsened after my first kid was born (which, I imagine, is a most COMMON parental affliction).




ABM, you sound like my father. I don't like the sound of that at all.

You really do need to get more sleep so that you will age healthily.


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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 10:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tonya:
"Gibson is not just a bigot. He's a bigot that wields an enormous amount of POWER."



Moonsigns:
So what! You're a bigot, too! And there is nothing, with the exception of gender and wealth, that makes you and Mel Gibson any different regarding bigotry.

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Abm:
"Perhaps the difference between Mel Gibson and MOST of the rest of us is our avoiding PUBLICLY regaling others of such."



Moonsigns:
Exactly!
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Kola,

You're right. I should sleep more. And I've attempted to address the issue without medication.
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Abm, you definitely need to try to fit in some more sleep time! Not getting adequate sleep accelerates the aging process!

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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 11:13 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM, all my life---my dad, Marvin Johnson, can only sleep 4 hours a night.

Occasionally, he will wake up and think he's back in Vietnam (for maybe 15 seconds, luckily).

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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 07:53 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Moonsigns,

I know you're not acting like YOU are not a bigot too.

At least I'll admit that sometimes I can be A LITTLE TINY BIT judgmental.

But your asshh is a REDNECK and a GAY BASHER..

so don't EVEN act all holier-than-thou!

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