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Brownbeauty123
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the first African American woman to ever have her own fragance become the No. 1 selling perfume in America

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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, dayam!

Here we go AGAIN with the "The B*tch Ain't Really Black!" arguments.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think it's great. I deal in perfumes from time to time and the markup between wholesale and retail is phenomenal. You can make serious bank in the perfume business. But I'm not into trendy perfumes - I use fragrances from the houses of Creed, Guerlain, Caron, Desprez, Boucheron, etc. Have you tried the Baby Phat fragrances - BB?
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, dayam!

Here we go AGAIN with the "The B*tch Ain't Really Black!" arguments.
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no arguments here dear abm, she is definately a beautiful black woman.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I didn't even know Baby Phat had a line of fragrances until I watched the Tyra Banks show this morning. Russell Simmons was on, and he mentioned his wife being the first African American to have a No. 1 fragrance..

I love scents with a fruity fragrance...is that what Baby Phat smells like?
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The ad for Baby Phat Goddess says "Introduced in the year 2005, by the design house of Kimora Lee Simmons, Baby Phat Goddess has a blend of gardenia, white rosebuds, cedrat flower, blue lily, hyacinth, black pepper, seringa, musk and exotic woods. It is recommended for anytime wear."

Sounds nice.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here's Kimora with her two daughters..

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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM,

Kimora makes it EASY to say she's not really black....she only claims her black heritage when she's being interviewed for an ethnic mag.

All the other times you'll hear her calling herself "the Blazin' Asian"!!!
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 01:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She ISN'T black.

Like she herself says all the time, she's multi-racial.

And remember--her children are receiving "ACCULTURATION" from her.





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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 02:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Her husband Russell Simmons, was the one who proclaimed her to be the "first African American woman" to have a No. 1 fragrance in America. So, maybe he sees her as Black ::shrugs::
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 02:35 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kimora don't any real way look like a Black woman, to me.

She looks like an Oriental who, for some strange reason, stayed too long in one of those tanning beds.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 02:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Its rather odd, for a woman whose stats are 5"10 120-130 lbs to have a "sausage neck". I think she had lipo, and gained weight back in her neck-liposuction can cause you to get fat in bizarre areas like that.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 02:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BB123,

Do 'lipo' necks? Or are they afraid they might suck loose her jugular vein and accidentally kill her?
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 03:04 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

((("Her husband Russell Simmons, was the one who proclaimed her to be the "first African American woman" to have a No. 1 fragrance in America. So, maybe he sees her as Black ::shrugs::")))


Yep. Just like the self-loathing black individual that he is.
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Huh?

I read that if you've had liposuction, and you gain weight down the line, it can end up going to bizarre areas like your neck. I wasn't saying that she had lipo done on her "neck".
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 03:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM, the "neck" is one of the main places that WOMEN get liposuction done.

One thing I LOVE about lipo---when you get your tummy, hips, thighs done----your ASS is now the only place for fat cells to gather. Your food goes to your ass (and unfortunately, titties, in my case).

Was always a 38 C, but now am 38 Double-D because of procedure.



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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 03:12 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kimmora needs her neck done bad.

Notice the NOSE JOB on her. LOL!!!

All that "mixed blood" and she still couldn't accept her nose.


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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 03:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I know. I was teasin' about the neck thing. Sorry.

*giggle*


And, yeah, Kimora's got that hilarious Janet Jackson nosejob.
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 05:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Her girls are so cute!
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 03:23 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not "quite" AA.

What is her ethnicity: Asian/African-American (Japanese-American mother/African-American father).

Hmmm...
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 09:18 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels,

Her mother is pure asian, her father is SUPPOSED to mixed with african-american, but he looks like a white man or a white man mixed with asian.

That's why she doesn't look black AT ALL.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 01:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Va_sis,

Black foks simply MUST stop idolizing fakea$$, Black-when-its-convenient types of mofos like Kimora.
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Va_sis, I'd have to disagree that Mrs. Lee Simmons doesn't look Black AT ALL.

If you will, post a photograph of a PURE Asian woman of Mrs. Lee Simmons partial Asian background and show it in juxtaposition to Mrs. Lee Simmons.

You'll note that a pure Japanese woman would be visably FAIRER than Kimora. You'll note the eyes will be MORE slanted. You'll note the cheekbones will be HIGHER. I cannot comment on her nose other than to say that it is neither a typical Black nose nor a typical Asian nose. It's been established that she did have "some work done".

The words you chose to emphasis in your post are curious: SUPPOSED and AT ALL; as they're intended to dispute Mrs. Lee Simmons' Black heritage. As if it were a "bad thing". Why is that?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 02:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Scribe,

because, and only because, Kimora is phoney! Really.

There was a time that I honestly admired her. She's done a great job of building a brand, I like her clothes and I didn't care WHAT her heritage is.

Until I started reading her interviews and seeing how she acted.

She plays up to black media when it suits her. Any other time, she's hollering about being a blazin' asian.

but she put her foot in her mouth about 4 years ago or so.

Did you happen to catch her & Russell when they were on 106&Park, while she was pregnant with her second child? Free asked what gender they hoped for. Russell said a boy. Free asked what would they name him. Russell said something like Malik. You should've seen the way Kimora looked at him...like he stank or something. Kimora responded VERY negatively "Ugh, ugh, no I'm not naming my baby nothing like that, blah, blah".

Ask me what BOTH of her daughters are named.

So in essence, I emphasized those words in my previous post to counter the applause everyone was giving Kimora for being a successful AFRICAN-AMERICAN woman in perfume business....when clearly WE rep her black heritage more than she does.
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Va_sis,

I'm with you on this. However, it seems you and I take the opposite approach. I gather when you witness those with partial Black heritage who don't FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE IT AT ALL TIMES, you kick them out the Black race. To me, that' giving them what they want. I take a different road. I never pass up an opportunity to POINT OUT that they're Black. For no other reason than to phuck with 'em.

I used to work with a man years ago who hated the expression "I see said the blind man." I said it around him every chance I got - we ended up having a relationship we got on each other's nerves so much. So...my approach has been known to backfire. :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 03:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But if you peer closer, it's really not about her, or anyone for that matter, fully acknowledging their race at all times.

It's about being consistent. Are you or aren't you?

Again, with Kimora, she's blazin' asian everwhere! But interviewed by Vibe Vixen, she's black.

????

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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 04:01 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Urban_scribe,

I guess I can understand what you're saying from a humor standpoint. But, really, why would a you seek to INCLUDE one amongst your own who flatly reject you?

Really. I think Black foks should just let foks like Kimora be as non-Black as their a$$e$ wanna be.

Because, frankly, I DON'T really see the net gain from having her fake, phonywannabea$$ included amongst us.
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Can I blame her?

A person obsessed with race and color (as most America is) can not except someone being of both races. It's either one or the other. The act of being multiracial "but she looks black, look at her nose, her hair, her skin tone" astounds some people. In the year 2006 people still rely on outdated method on determining race and not genetics. You are what you appear to be.
i.e "What are you?"

BUT!
I would not mind if she claimed not being black actually. It would do us all a favor. Maybe its the fact she annoying the hell out of me with the whole "ghetto black girl" act, as if that is what a black woman only is. It's insulting to me.
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Sabiana,

I think it's is SAD that some chick who's barely at all Black can make a fortune encouraging negative stereotypes about how you Black women should dress and style themselves.
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Sabiana,

I think it's is SAD that some chick who's barely at all Black can make a fortune encouraging negative stereotypes about how you Black women should dress and style themselves.




What's even SADDER is that Black American will never stand up to this bitch.

They ridicule and make excuses for why they can't be close to African women like myself----but they COO and delight in being represented by HOKEY ass Social Climbing GOLDDIGGERS like Kimora Lee.




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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 07:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

((("Again, with Kimora, she's blazin' asian everwhere! But interviewed by Vibe Vixen, she's black. ????")))




So you blame Kimora and not "Vibe Vixen(?)"...hmmm. Did I get the name right? It isn't a magazine that I patronize.
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Abm,

Exactly.

We let her.
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Tonya,

I'm by NO means a fan or supporter of Karrine Steffans. But at least she's Black.

And I suspect if Kimora was a less 'exotic' (aka less Black) looking socialclimbing, golddigging hoochie, she and Karrine would probably have very COMPARABLE 'superhead' statistics.
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Va_sis --

"Her mother is pure asian"

I'm quite aware.
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Abm --

"Black foks simply MUST stop idolizing fakea$$, Black-when-its-convenient types of mofos like Kimora."

Get a life.
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 01:49 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, I meant "(aka more Black)"
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Urban_scribe --

"Va_sis, I'd have to disagree that Mrs. Lee Simmons doesn't look Black AT ALL."

Black America is always trying to "suck" everyone into the "you're black" syndrome because they can't "un-black" themselves.
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 02:31 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nels,

I imagine if you READ more you'd actually have something to say that does NOT require your angrily bottomfeeding upon the more thoughful opinions of others expressed here.
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Another dumb thread about race.

Again.
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 01:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This forum is called Culture, RACE, & Economy.
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....but with very little about culture, nothing about economy, and EVERYTHING about race--and usually the same trite garbage.
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Schakspir,

What motivates you to participate in discussions on a forum that is so "beneath" you?
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BB123: "Schakspir, What motivates you to participate in discussions on a forum that is so "beneath" you?"

Now that THERE is one of those $50,000 Bonus Jeopardy questions.

Where the hell is Alek Trebeck??
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BB123: Schakspir,

What motivates you to participate in discussions on a forum that is so "beneath" you?

Schakspir: The same reason why some atheists read the Bible--LOOKING FOR LOOPHOLES.
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Abm --

Bottomfeeders, they're great survivors. Who's angry? Flaming is fun. Anger is a whole other story.
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She is black AND Asian and about as hood as it gets. What's the mystery? LOL

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