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Aurora
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I just learned how to upload attachments
so here is my favourite athlete of all time
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Sojourner Truth

http://womenshistory.about.com/library/bio/bltruth.htm

Ida B. Wells

http://www.library.csi.cuny.edu/dept/history/lavender/wells.html

Harriet Tubman

http://www.harriettubman.com/index.html

Fannie Lou Hamer

http://www.lkwdpl.org/wihohio/hame-fan.htm

Beah Richards (One of my favorites)

http://www.aaregistry.com/african_american_history/1998/Beah_Richards_an_actress _with_style

A BLACK WOMEN SPEAKS...
OF WHITE WOMANHOOD
OF WHITE SUPREMACY
OF PEACE

A poem by BEAULA RICHARDSON

Read by Beaula Richardson at the Women's Workshop at the American People's Peace Congress held in Chicago on June 29, 30 and July 1, 1951 bringing a standing ovation from all 500 women attending.


It is right that I a woman
black,
should speak of white womanhood.
my fathers
my brothers
my husbands
my sons
die for it: because of it.
and their blood
chilled in electric chairs,
stopped by hangman’s noose,
cooked by lynch mobs’ fire,
spilled by white supremacist mad desire to kill
give me that right

I would that I could speak of white womanhood
as it will and should be
when it stands tall in full equality.
but then, womanhood will be womanhood.
Void of color and of class,
And all necessity for my speaking thus will be past.
Gladly past.

But now, since ‘tis deemed a thing apart
Supreme,
I must in searching honesty report
How it seems to me.
White womanhood stands in bloodied skirt
and willing slavery
reaching out adulterous hand
killing mine and crushing me.
What then is the superior thing
That in order to be sustained must needs feed upon my flesh?
Let’s look to history.

They said, the white supremacist said
that you were better than me,
that your fair brow would never know the sweat of slavery.
They lied
White womanhood to is enslaved,
The difference is degree.

They brought me here in chains.
They brought you here willing slaves to man.
You, shiploads of women each filled with hope
That she might win with ruby lip and saucy curl
And bright and flashing eyes
Him to wife who had the largest tender.
Remember?
And they sold you here even as they sold me.

My sisters, there is no room for mockery.
If they counted my teeth
They did appraise your thigh
And sold you to the highest bidder
The same as I.

And you did not fight for your right to choose
Whom you would wed
But for whatever bartered price
That was the legal tender
You were sold to a stranger’s bed
In a stranger land
Remember?
And you did not fight.
Mind you, I speak not mockingly
But I fought for freedom,
I’m fighting now for our unity.
We are women all.
And what wrongs you murders me
And eventually marks your grave
So we share a mutual death at the hand of tyranny.

They trapped me with the chain and gun.
They trapped you with lying tongue.
For, ‘less you see that fault—
That male villainy
That robbed you of name, voice and authority,
That murderous greed that wasted you and me,
He, the white supremacist, fixed your minds with poisonous thought:
“white skin is supreme.”
And there with bought that monstrous change
exiling you to things.
Changed all that nature had in you wrought of gentle usefulness, abolishing your spring.
Tore out your heart,
set your good apart from all that you could say,
think,
feel,
know to be right.
And you did not fight,
but set your minds fast on my slavery
the better to endure your own.

'Tis true
my pearls were beads of sweat
wrung from weary bodies' pain,
instead of rings upon my hands
I wore swollen, bursting veins.
My ornaments were the wipe-lash's scar
my diamond, perhaps, a tear.
Instead of paint and powder on my face
I wore a solid mask of fear to see my blood so spilled.
And you, women seeing
spoke no protest
but cuddled down in your pink slavery
and thought somehow my wasted blood
confirmed your superiority.

Because your necklace was of gold
you did not notice that it throttled speech.
Because diamond rings bedecked your hands
you did not regret their dictated idleness.
Nor could you see that the platinum bracelets which graced your wrists were chains
binding you fast to economic slavery
And though you claimed your husband's name
still could not command his fidelity.

You bore him sons.
I bore him sons.
No, not willingly.
He purchase you.
He raped me,
I fought!
But you fought neither for yourselves nor me.
Sat trapped in your superiority
and spoke no reproach.
Consoled your outrage with an added diamond brooch.
Oh, God, how great is a woman's fear
who for a stone, a cold, cold stone
would not defend honor, love or dignity!

Your bore the damning mockery of your marriage
and heaped your hate on me,
a woman too,
a slave more so.
And when your husband disowned his seed
that was my son
and sold him apart from me
you felt avenged.
Understand:
I was not your enemy in this,
I was not the source of your distress.
I was your friend, I fought.
But you would not help me fight
thinking you helped only me.
Your deceived eyes seeing only my slavery
aided your own decay.
Yes, they condemned me to death
and they condemned you to decay.
Your heart whisked away,
consumed in hate,
used up in idleness
playing yet the lady's part
estranged to vanity.
It is justice to you to say your fear equaled your tyranny.

You were afraid to nurse your young
lest fallen breast offend your master's sight
and he should flee to firmer loveliness.
And so you passed them, your children, on to me.
Flesh that was your flesh and blood that was your blood
drank the sustenance of life from me.
And as I gave suckle I knew I nursed my own child's enemy.
I could have lied,
told you your child was fed till it was dead of hunger.
But I could not find the heart to kill orphaned innocence.
For as it fed, it smiled and burped and gurgled with content
and as for color knew no difference.
Yes, in that first while
I kept your sons and daughters alive.

But when they grew strong in blood and bone
that was of my milk
you
taught them to hate me.
PUt your decay in their hearts and upon their lips
so that strength that was of myself
turned and spat upon me,
despoiled my daughters, and killed my sons.
You know I speak true.
Though this is not true for all of you

When I bestirred myself for freedom
and brave Harriet led the way
some of you found heart and played a part
in aiding my escape.
And when I made my big push for freedom
your sons fought at my sons' side.
Your husbands and brothers too fell in that battle
when Crispus Attucks died.
It's unfortunate that you acted not in the way of justice
but to preserve the Union
and for dear sweet pity's sake;
Else how came it to be with me as it is today?
You abhorred slavery
yet loathed equality.

I would that the poor among you could have seen
through the scheme
and joined hands with me.
Then, we being the majority, could long ago have recued
our wasted lives.
But no.
The rich, becoming richer, could be content
while yet the poor had only the pretense of superiority
and sought through murderous brutality
to convince themselves that what was false was true.

So with KKK and fiery cross
and bloodied appetites
set about to prove that "white is right"
forgetting their poverty.
Thus the white supremacist used your skins
to perpetuate slavery.
And woe to me.
Woe to Willie McGee.
Woe to the seven men of Martinsville.
And woe to you.
It was no mistake that your naked body on an Esquire calendar
announced the date, May Eighth.
This is your fate if you do not wake to fight.
They will use your naked bodies to sell their wares
though it be hate, Coca Cola or rape.

When a white mother disdained to teach her children
this doctrine of hate,
but taught them instead of peace
and respect for all men's dignity
the courts of law did legislate
that they be taken from her
and sent to another state.
To make a Troy Hawkins of the little girl
and a killer of the little boy!

No, it was not for the womanhood of this mother
that Willie McBee died
but for the depraved, enslaved, adulterous woman
whose lustful demands denied,
lied and killed what she could not possess.
Only three months before another such woman lied
and seven black men shuddered and gave up their lives.
These women were upheld in these bloody deeds
by the president of this nation,
thus putting the official seal on the fate
of white womanhood with in these United States.
This is what they plan for you.
This is the depravity they would reduce you to.
Death for me
and worse than death for you.

What will you do?
Will you fight with me?
White supremacy is your enemy and mine.
So be careful when you talk with me.
Remind me not of my slavery, I know it will
but rather tell me of your own.
Remember, you have never known me.
You've been busy seeing me
as white supremacist would have me be,
and I will be myself.
Free!
My aim is full equality.
I would usurp their plan!
Justice
peace
and plenty
for every man, woman and child
who walks the earth.
This is my fight!

If you will fight with me then take my hand
and the hand of Rosa Ingram, and Rosalee McGee,
and as we set about our plan
let our Wholehearted fight be:
PEACE IN A WORLD WHERE THERE IS EQUALITY.

---Poem provided by Asali, AALBC POSTER.
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Marion Wright Edelman

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/marianwrightedelman/p/m_w_edelman.htm

Maya Angelou

Toni Morrison


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More of Beah Richards

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0723968/bio

http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/beah/synopsis.html


Maya Angelou and Toni Morrison are two of my favorites too, Fortified!

Don't forget Alice Walker And Zora Neale Hurston and let me stop because I can go on for days!
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ALICE WALKER











TONI MORRISON











MARITA GOLDEN






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INDULGE ME

AS I INCLUDE FROM EGYPT,
ONE OF MY ALL-TIME INSPIRATIONS
AND HEROES...NAWAL EL SAADAWI









I would encourage every woman
on EARTH to read "The Hidden Face of Eve"
by Nawal el Saadawi.

I love her so dearly and her work
means so much to me.



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So many--you all have included many of my she-roes. I guess I'd add personally my mother, two late grandmothers, and my daughters--as they are definitely turning into the women they will one day be!
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Gabrielle Union

Oprah winfrey

Toni Morrison

Harriet Tubman

Sojurner Truth
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Kola, I don't get it...
If Nawal el Saadawi were American-born, wouldn't she be the same half-caste, "inauthentic", "biracial","Lena Horne" looking sista you take issue with? In terms of phenotype, isn't she the same "high-yella" type who has been erected and valorized above the darkskinned black woman?
I don't ascribe to or defend this "dark-light" dichotomy nor do I gauge my people's "authenticity" by their hue and complexion.
How do you reconcile these contradictions?
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There is NO CONTRADICTION Savant.

Why can't you get it through your thick head that just because I don't consider Lena Horne a black woman----doesn't mean I don't LOVE her?

Nawal el Saadawi is NOT Black---which is why I wrote "Please INDULGE me". She's PURE ARAB--not black. But she is one of the greatest heroes of my life.

Can you understand that I see Halle Berry as my sister? That I love her? And that she is NOT a Black woman in my eyes???

None of you EVER listen to what I say.



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Aurora,

WHICH of those 2 are your favorite: Florence Griffith Joyner or Evelyn Ashford?

Because I think, overall, Ashford had the superior athletic career.

In fact, Evelyn Ashford might be the greatest American female sprinter of all time.
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Kola, what was Lena Horne mixed with? In all the biographies I've read about her, neither of her parents are mentioned to be White.

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I think Dorothy Dandridge was MUCH prettier..



but this color photo of her, makes her appear a little "haggard"...



I think she was an amazing actress for that time.
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Hattie McDaniel



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Pam Grier.

Ol' girl was strapped back in the day. She had an amazing figure, she looks so healthy and fit.

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Anybody remember the black actress Judy Pace?





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BrownBeauty, PLEASE FORGIVE ME for being abrupt--but this is a STUPID ASS question:

Kola, what was Lena Horne mixed with? In all the biographies I've read about her, neither of her parents are mentioned to be White.

OBVIOUSLY, her parents were mixed themselves--NO?

I mean look at her.





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They don't mention either of her parents being of mixed race.
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Well then HOW did she come out looking white BB??? (you do realize that without her makeup she can pass for white--and during trips to Europe in the 1940's she DID look like a white woman).

BOTH her parents are mixed looking to me.

HOW do you suppose that happened IN AMERICA???

Her grandmother looked black.

Just because white people call something "black" doesn't make it so.






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I Love LONETTE MCKEE




She was my favorite
in "SPARKLE" and "COTTON CLUB"


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I never saw pictures of her parents. My knowledge on Lena Horne is rather limited. I just wanted to know which one of her parents were multiracial because they're never acknowledged as being of mixed race.
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WINNIE MANDELA







LAURYN HILL


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BrownBeauty.....NOBODY before 1980 acknowledged being Multi-racial.

Her whole family called themselves NEGRO.

But the FACT is---she's about 1/3 Black.

GO CHECK OUT HER AUTOBIOGRAPHY AT THE LIBRARY.

Her Grandmother, a maid, was definitely Black.

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IMAN


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Here are couple of my favorite Black females:

First Black Female Astronaut: Mae Jamison



Splendid Movie Director ("Eve's Bayou"): Kasi Lemmon
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Kola,

Please show me the math that results in one becoming "1/3 Black".

Hahahahaha!!!
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I LOVE KASI LEMMON!

SHE USED TO PLAY ON MY

FAVORITE SOAP, "ANOTHER WORLD"



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Lena's parents, ABM, were each---WHITE on one half and half Black/half Indian on the other.

(Meaning THEIR parents were mixed as well).

Geez, I guess she was even less black than I thought.

Lena's Black Grandmother, however ACCULTURATED and REARED Lena's father in a Black CULTURE. So they were very "Black identified"----'cept Lena AND her daughters married White men.



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Lena Horne's grandchildren look PURE WHITE---like Michael Jackson's. Not a SIGN of any black at all.



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Kola,

Kinda RELEVANT how we don't remember the middle and DARKER and BLACKER looking sista Dwan Smith as much as we remember McKee and Irene Carr from "Sparkle". Isn't it?

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Kola,

You've GOTTAH know that I was kidding about the "1/3 Black" thing.


I love Kasi too.

And not just as a director (I you know what I MEAN.).
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ABM, the movie "Sparkle" was made by VERY COLORSTRUCK black people-----as usual, only the OLD Mother Figure (Mary Alice) can be truly black amongst the females...as she's "on her way out".

But I just love Lonette Mckee SO MUCH. I have always been a huge fan of anything she was in. She has a SOUL in her that just speaks to me.

I feel nothing for Irene though, ironically.




NOW...my ROTARY lp has arrived and I'll talk you all later! :-)

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LisaRaye seems so down to earth..

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Nina Simone-(Thanks Kola for the advice. I listen to Nina almost everyday :-))

http://www.ninasimone.com/

Billie Holiday

http://www.cmgworldwide.com/music/holiday/

Ella Fitzgerald

http://www.ellafitzgerald.com/

Sarah Vaughn

http://parsec-santa.com/celebrity/celeb_pages/SarahVaughan.html

Mahalia Jackson

http://www.lkwdpl.org/wihohio/jack-mah.htm
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How could we forget Nia Long...



Sanaa Lathan

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lisa bonet
rachel true
bianca lawson
dominique dawes
ashanti
ciara
keyshia cole
chistina milian (yes, she's black)
kelly rowland
tyrell hicks
gabrielle union
regina hall
sanaa lathan
lark voorhies

i LOVE ALL these black women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Regina Hall is cute.


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see brownbeauty, we don't have to disagree about everything. we can disagree without being disagreeable.
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Kola,

I love Lonette as well. It's funny. She's about as pale as a ghost. But she come across as being BLACKER than MOST of the so-called kneegrows in Hollwood.

Now watch somebody tells me Lonette's married to a White man and has got kids that look like Leonardo DiCaprio and Gweneth Paltrow.
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Yaya Johnson from America's Next Top Model is so beautiful. She's in my man's Chingy new video...



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Ellen Johnson Sirleaf - first female head of state of an African country

Miriam Makeba

Jill Scott


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I'm not going to post her pinup photos, want to keep it clean....Buffie Carruth aka "Buffy the Body"

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yaya is straight up beautiful. buffy the body is nasty looking and fat, (but id still do her)!!!!!!!
i think eva pigford is beautiful also
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Eva won America's Next Top Model. She looks more "actressy" than modely. Not to mention she doesn't have a very womanly figure at all. Girl's ass is so damn flat.



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Jill Scott

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Robin Givens is so beautiful.



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Here's one for the FELLAS!!!

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We gotta keep it clean, ABM.
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BB123,

Whaddayah mean by "clean"?

Ain't no nipple showing.
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Excuse me for asking Kola but wasn't Winnie Mendela a crazy psycho woman who betrayed nelson Mendela. And didn't Alice Walker marry a white man.

How can you admire these pl?
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Amerie

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Gabrielle Union

India Arie

Beyonce
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India Arie.



Gabrielle Union



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Abm, Lonette McKee (who is "biracial") has been married to both black and white men. She also is a fantastic songwriter/singer who had an album out "Words and Music"---a rare find, nowadays.

I was waiting for someone to take Billie Holiday to task for being "inauthentic" and/or question her blackness.
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Brownbeauty, I'm surprised you're claiming "Amerie" as black. If Kimora Lee Simmon's isn't "black", how is Amerie, with her Korean mother?
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Tyra Banks au natural

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Aisha Tyler








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I LOVE Garcelle Beauvais. I wish she'd get handed better roles.

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Thandie Newton
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I loooooove Garcielle Beauvias. She is also married to a white man.
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Yours aren't showing up Serenasailor..

here's Aisha..

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Melyssa Ford seems grounded..

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BROWNBEAUTY123,

No one has taken Lena Horne or any of these women to task for being inauthentic blacks or mixed women.

YOU asked a question, YOU brought it up.

I love Lena Horne, Billie Holiday, Lonette Mckee---ALL OF THEM---but somehow, "light skinned" people have that IDIOTIC notion that if someone doesn't see you as "black"---then they don't like you.

Also, it's very strange how the vast majority of black women in this country have always been dark brown to chocolate to black-----but almost all of the female stars are conveniently mixed, high yellow or OTHER-looking, and that's the rub, as these women become TOOLS of "White Supremacy" as they're used to make black women invisible and unspoken for.

I would like to see AUTHENTIC BLACK WOMEN stop being made invisible and given a chance to represent THEMSELVES----as it's long overdue. And I'm not about to wait on High Yellow folk to make my dream come true---I'm demanding it.

"You have to take what you want."---Queen Sojourner Truth




SERENASAILOR

Winnie Mandela is more popular IN South Africa than Nelson will ever be---she is the MOTHER of the Nation, and though whites and Mandela himself have worked to smear her name and reputation---she remains one of the greatest FREEDOM FIGHTERS Africa has produced since Nzingah.

As for Alice Walker---you forget that she was in a comitted relationship with a BLACK MAN for twice as long as she was married to a White man. She is now a lesbian. And you would have to read her books to see exactly why I love Alice Walker. She is the reason I call myself a "womanist" and she is one of the greatest influences on my work and life.

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I'm sorry but Melyssa Ford is nothing but a glorified video hoe.
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Kola, Savant was the poster who made this comment

" I was waiting for someone to take Billie Holiday to task for being "inauthentic" and/or question her blackness. "

I didn't say that.
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Serenasailor, Melyssa Ford just doesn't bother me half as much as Karrine Steffans. At least she didn't try to sleep her way to the top.
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I looooove Tomiko Fraiser. The Maybelline cover girl.
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I forgot about Tomiko. I wish they'd feature her more in the Maybelline ads.



She reminds me of Roshumba

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ESTHER ROLLE






There's a poem in my book "NILE RIVER WOMAN" about Esther Rolle.
I loved her and Beah Richards.

Here's the poem:


"ESTHER ROLLE"

When you die...come back to life
So we can laugh and cry and curse the living!
O! I want to curse anything.
Drab concrete sky leaving me with too many songs.
Sadness leaves, because
I forget the words.
The words are so many, I just wrinkle
up and laugh and squeeze my
hurting hands.

I remember being young and frisky.
I remember being a creamy hot thing.
I remember the lemony days and hasty dreamy nights
that snuck away with the words.
Stole away.

The one song I remember, the one I loved
went:

"when you die...come back to life"




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We know Lil_ze you looooove redbones.
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The late Aaliyah

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Melyssa Ford and Amerie are bi-racial.

I also like

Angela Bassett
Alfre Woodard
Madge Sinclair (R.I.P.)
Virginia Capers (R.I.P.)
Ruby Dee
Diana Sands (R.I.P.)
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Alfre

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Vanessa L. Williams a true survivor.

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Garcelle Beauvais is the celebrity I'm told that I look most like. Not braggin, I'm just sayin. And, honestly, I don't see the resemblance.
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Garcelle Beauvais is the celebrity I'm told that I look most like. Not braggin, I'm just sayin. And, honestly, I don't see the resemblance.

Dammmmmmmn Tonya, When can you and I go out on a date. You must be fine as hell.

Ppl tell me I look like Tiger Woods. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.
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Vanessa L. Williams

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Serenasailer,

LOL!!

Tiger Woods is not a bad looking dude, IMO, not at all. I think it’s his attitude (regarding race) that Sistahs don’t like. Had he a different outlook, no doubt Sistahs would be ALLLL over him.
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serenasailor, i do love me some redbones!
brownbeauty, i could be wrong, but i think the photo of the african model you posted is of kiara kobukura (i know i spelled her last name wrong). also robin givens, brownbeauty went to the same jr. high school that i did. she is from new rochelle, new york. also jay leno, and richard roundtree (shaft) are from my town. new rochelle is agreat place to grow up in and raise children. so is larchmont, ny, where i went to high school!
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola Boof: ESTHER ROLLE

Thank you. I appreciate you bringing her name up. I had much respect for this woman. Ms Rolle came a long way in life considering her very humble and impoverished beginnings. She was the daughter of a Florida vegetable farmer. She came from a very large family of poor Southern blacks. She was the 10th of 18 children.

I remember her last major appearance in Driving Miss Daisy. Before that, she was most famous for her role as Florida Evans in the 1970s sitcom, Good Times. A show that I recall very vividly watching when I was young. She also had previously been in the sitcom called Maude.

Ms. Rolle was adamantly opposed to Hollywood's historically traditional black stereotypes. She allowed producer Norman Lear to lure her away from Broadway acting for his Maude series only after he promised that she could portray a fully developed character and not ``just a typical black Hollywood maid.''

I'm sure many of the older readers of this board recall Good Times series and the problems of a poor black family living in a housing project in Chicago. The series ran successfully until 1979, making a star of Jimmie Walker (now a hard core Bush stumping Republican!) as the character J.J.. Ms Rolle did leave the show briefly after protesting that Walker's silly and obnoxious antics were setting a bad example for black youth. The J.J. character was reformed for the final series.

Ms. Rolle was always involved in the struggle for various matters that are of great concern to women. Something the black female readers of this board should realize and understand. She consistently spoke out on behalf of abused women and was a spokesperson for The National Council of Negro Women’s Black Family Reunion. Ms. Rolle was highly sought after for her motivational and inspiring presentations. She was the recipient of three NAACP Image Awards and won the NAACP Civil Rights Leadership Award for helping to raise the image of Afro Americans in 1990. Thank you again for mentioning her name.


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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A personal hero for me:

Constance Motley : First Black American Female Federal Judge

Constance Motley, the first black American female federal judge died at age 84. Her life warranted a NY Times story, and not just an obit. This is the passing of a legend that most lawyers have never heard of.

She paid her dues as a civil rights lawyer, working on school desegregation cases in the 50's and 60's. Back when law firms were 99% white and male, the NAACP lawyers were all races and both sexes.

She was on the bench just short of 40 years, and that would make her a Johnson appointee.
When she was 15, Constance Baker Motley was turned away from a public beach because she was black. It was only then--even though her mother was active in the NAACP--that the teenager really became interested in civil rights.

She went to law school and found herself fighting racism in landmark segregation cases including Brown v. Board of Education, the Central High School case in Arkansas and the case that let James Meredith enroll at the University of Mississippi.

Motley also broke barriers herself: She was the first black woman appointed to the federal bench, as well the first one elected to the New York state Senate.

From 1961 to 1964, Motley won nine of 10 civil rights cases she argued before the Supreme Court.

"Judge Motley had the strength of a self-made star," federal Judge Kimba Wood said. "As she grew, she was unfailingly optimistic and positive--she never let herself be diverted from her goal of achieving civil rights, even though, as she developed as a lawyer, she faced almost constant condescension from our profession due to her being an African-American woman."

Motley, who spent two decades with the NAACP's Legal Defense and Educational Fund, started out there in 1945 as a law clerk to Thurgood Marshall, then its chief counsel and later a Supreme Court justice. In 1950, she prepared the draft complaint for what would become Brown v. Board of Education.



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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"She was the 10th of 18 children."

Wow! One woman birthed eighteen children! That's amazing.
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brownbeauty, its certain. the pictures you posted are not of komiko, but of KIARA KABUKURU. she is a stunningly beautiful model from africa. i saw her in person in nyc a few years ago. she is amazing looking.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 01:48 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I never understand why people always claim dorothy dandgridge is light skinend when she's clearly brown skinned with very african features (except for her hair
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Lena horne never looked white to me, she always looked native american though. and i don't know how they pulled it off passing her off as white in the movies she played in, but then again thery passed elvis off as white too when he clearly looked native american and had the red skin and black hair to boot.

all i know is lena horne always did have a funny nose and i don't see how she was considered so attractive.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 05:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lena Horne was considered attractive for "a black women". Again white institutions say that if they are going to accept a black person then he/she better look non-black.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 09:40 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Lena Horne was considered attractive for "a black women". Again white institutions say that if they are going to accept a black person then he/she better look non-black."

Wow! This is different. I have to agree 100% with your statement.

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