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Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5480 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 04:52 pm: |
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There are 2 movies that have been recently released that feature young Black males laying wood to old White chicks. In one of the movies, the brothas are Haitian teens while the White women are older (and wrinklier) than Methuselah. Funny. This movie is being proudly billed as some kinda liberation of older White women thing. Wonder how foks would view this if the males were old and the females were pubescent. Or, worse, if the those older males were BLACK and the teenagers girls were WHITE. http://movies2.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/movies/07sout.html?pagewanted=print And the other film includes Cuba Gooding, Jr.’s fake-bangin' English actress Helen Mirren. The review says it's the hottest simulated sex scene between a Black man and White woman in a non-pornographic American movie since Laurence Fishburne treated Ellen Barkin like a skrait-up skank-ho in the slick "Bad Company" (about 10 years ago). http://movies2.nytimes.com/2006/07/21/movies/21boxe.html?ref=movies&pagewanted=p rint I wonder if this is just a coincidence or is this a part of some kinda latent or nascent trend amongst Baby Boomer White chicks. You know, they’re gonna get their hot Kneegrow freak-on before that imminent dirt nap. PS: For some reason, Mirren gives me wood. Maybe it's because I saw her deliciously dyckteasing dudes in HBO's recent "Elizabeth" of which she played the title role as the succesor to Henry the VIII. I don't know, but part of me wanna REALLY mete out some SERIOUS phallic retribution upon that ol’ White girl. |
Tonya Regular Poster Username: Tonya
Post Number: 45 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 05:31 pm: |
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Abm, what chocolate woman gives you wood? And when I say chocolate, I mean dark-brown to jet black, permed/treated to nappy head (no weave) and sistagirl flava and succulent features all around? Post pics if you can.
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Rachel Regular Poster Username: Rachel
Post Number: 47 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 05:31 pm: |
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Naw, it's not some trend, lol. Many dejected, lonely, old trampy white whores will do anyone..and for real...white women ain't wanting a black man unless A) she's carnival trash, B) she's FAT and UGLY. Really only the reject white girls crave black men. The well educated white women with MONEY will not date or marry black men. Now those ditzy, silicone tittied sports groupies will...only because they come straight from the trailer courts cruising for some buster ass nigga to give her a rich life. Rich black men will marry a white heffa as a status symbol but rich white women? NAW. That's the thing. Some cooning ass fool thinks he has some sort of trophy when he brings Becky to meet his parents only to find out his mother wants to beat his ass and his father is looking at him crosseyed. |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5483 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 05:45 pm: |
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Tonya, There are PLENTY of dark-colored Black women who give a brotha wood. And they run the gamut of ages. I'll tell you what, I'll share the names of some of them if you attempt to not be as critical of how "chocolate" they are (or are not). And another caveat: You'll have to spare me the no weave criteria. Because, hell, there are SO MANY sistas in the Entertainment business wearing tracks across their domes, you'd think some of these chicks be New York's Grand Central Station or something. Deal? |
Rachel Regular Poster Username: Rachel
Post Number: 49 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 05:49 pm: |
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And another caveat: You'll have to spare me the no weave criteria. Because, hell, there are SO MANY sistas in the Entertainment business wearing tracks across their domes, you'd think some of these chicks be New York's Grand Central Station or something. RIGHT RIGHT |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5484 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 05:54 pm: |
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Tonya, Here's some: WNBA Star Lisa Leslie (I'd like take some shots at HER 'hoop') Angela Bassett (*sign*) Vanessa Bell Calloway (who, btw, is also a favorite of my wife...which incite certain purient 3-way fantasies within me) N'Bushe Wright (That is one luscious Black woman. *bitingindexfinger*) Vivica A. Fox (And the "A." stands for AssFoDays.) Foxy Brown (I used to think that she was very sexy. But after seeing all the simulated writhing/sweating, I couldn't help thinking she was grossly in need of some of the Massengil products.) Ki Toy (Vivica's a$$...on steriods!!!) Meagan Good (Yeah. I'm creepin' into pedaphile territory. But LAWD that gals gotta purdy mouth!) |
Tonya Regular Poster Username: Tonya
Post Number: 46 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 06:03 pm: |
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(((("That's the thing. Some cooning ass fool thinks he has some sort of trophy when he brings Becky to meet his parents only to find out his mother wants to beat his ass. . .")))) I always wondered how some black women really feel when their sons choose someone that's the total opposite of them. I know some mothers dream of their sons bringing home a white/near white woman (which is pathetic; I actually knew a sister like this) but are some of them hurt when this happens? This is something rarely discussed--to my knowledge at least. |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5485 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 06:04 pm: |
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More... Naomi Campbell (That chick's so mean she simply MUST be a great fuhk. And if she ain't one now, best-believe she be one after I'm done!) Iman (If I could ever get over the f*g David Bowie fiasco) Oprah (Hell. Who WOULDN'T wanna bone the world's ONLY Black billionairess?) Elise Neal (Another cuteypiebooty. Will & Jada shouldah kept her and FIRED that bumpkin, noactinga$$ Lisa Ray [I can STAND that heffa!]) Kimberly Elise (She might have THE most most compelling eyes in all of Hollywood.) |
Tonya Regular Poster Username: Tonya
Post Number: 47 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 06:08 pm: |
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Abm, Okay brotha--I see you have good taste! |
Tonya Regular Poster Username: Tonya
Post Number: 48 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 06:11 pm: |
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You must be catching wood all the time though? Cuz those are a lot of women??? |
Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2399 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 06:18 pm: |
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ABM...I didn't see MY NAME!
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Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2403 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 06:49 pm: |
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ABM, I've met Vanessa Bell Calloway and she is .....so much more gorgeous in person!!! Film doesn't capture her "sparkle" in totality. Talk about a stunningly beautiful chocolate woman. And she still looks like she's barely 25. I gave her signed copies of all my books at the RADISSON HOTEL and she said, "Girl, you be writ'n yo ass off!"
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Doberman23 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 491 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 11:58 pm: |
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abm you don't think that tweet is hot? rachel: heidi clum probably makes more than seal. and as far as when black dudes bring home white girls what do their mother think? well she should hope whom ever she brings home is treating her son right, makes her son happy, and is respectful and respectable. i dated a few different nationalities and races along the way to finding my woman. when i dated them i didn't go out thinking "oh i just gotta have a white girl, asian girl, hispanic girl, or whatever. people who seek someone out specifically because of their race, probably does have a problem, but i seriously doubt most brothers are like that... and the ones who are, well just consider it as there loss. |
Tonya Veteran Poster Username: Tonya
Post Number: 56 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 02:03 am: |
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(("as far as when black dudes bring home white girls what do their mother think? well she should hope whom ever she brings home is treating her son right, makes her son happy, and is respectful and respectable.")) I'm sure she should and most likely does but I gotta think that it's hurtful when your son brings home someone that is nothing like you appearance-wise (white, light, stringy-haired, ect). I not a mother but if I were and I raised this person, cared for this person, fed, cleaned, and looked after him, was the only woman that he really knew...I would expect him to choose a woman a lot like me. And if he didn't, honestly, I would be hurt and deep down inside I'd wonder why. |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5487 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 03:47 am: |
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Dobes, I agree that Tweet is very SEXY. I remember once while watching her on a video my wife looked at me an said, "DANG! You really LIKE her. Don't you?" It musta been the slobber leaking from the corner of my mouth that gave me away. Rachel, I dealt dah heat to a few non-Black chicks back in the day. Only introduced 1 (or maybe 2) to my moms. And that was more by accident than intent. I think my reluctance to introduce them to ma were less a function of them not being Black and more a function of my not being especially serious about them (though, admittedly, race might have been part of the reason for THAT). Tonya: "You must be catching wood all the time though? Cuz those are a lot of women???" Indeed. 'Tis a blessing...& a curse. Kola, I just LOVE Vanessa B. C. She seems so 'familiar' to me. Kola: "ABM...I didn't see MY NAME!" Babe. At least once a week the wife asks "So how's your African 'girlfriend' Kola been doing?". You think I'm gone ADD kindling to that nascent fire? Those other chicks I mentioned she don't actually think I would or could actually bone. YOU on the other hand... |
Moonsigns "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1272 Registered: 07-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 08:38 am: |
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No, it's not a trend --it's life --it's human nature! People are phuckin' one another openly as well as secretly. It has nothing to do with color. |
Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2409 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 10:07 am: |
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ABM, HA!! HAA!!! Sorry. I was just teasing boy.
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Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 583 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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Naomi Campbell IS quite the beauty. Although, she's the most successful model period..black or white.. it seems she never got the recognition she deserved here in America.
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Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 584 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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I don't get the appeal in Meagan Goode, she's skinny like a prepubescent girl with large fake tits.
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Moonsigns "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1278 Registered: 07-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:15 pm: |
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Meagan Goode is absolutely stunning! |
Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 591 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:20 pm: |
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I just cannot fathom why Kenya Moore's beauty never got the proper recognition.
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Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 592 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:21 pm: |
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And she has a BIGGER booty than Beyonce's little round "plump".
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Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 593 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:22 pm: |
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Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5500 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:28 pm: |
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BB123, BB123: "...prepubescent girl with large fake tits." Ironically, YOU cited thre reason why LOTS of guys get serious wood for Meagan. Well, that and her...mouth: Oh. And in the Immortal Words of P. Diddy: "Don't hate." |
Moonsigns "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1282 Registered: 07-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:30 pm: |
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Kenya Moore's face and body are just amazing!!!! She is a breath-taking beauty!!!!!!!! |
Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 598 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:38 pm: |
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I think that its SICK for a grown ass male to find the image of a young pre adolescent girl like-body, stuffed with watermelon titties. |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5503 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:39 pm: |
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I forgot about Kenya. I'd most definitely add her to my Chocolate-flavored Cut List (on that first picture she looks JUST like a young Natalie Cole). |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5504 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:40 pm: |
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BB123: "...SICK for a grown ass male to find the image of a young pre adolescent girl like-body, stuffed with watermelon titties." Hey. I just confirmed that's what nikkas be thinking. I ain't said the shyt was right. *shrugs* |
Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 599 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:51 pm: |
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ABM, that is just your sick fetish. Getting a little too R KELLY up in here. |
Abm "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Abm
Post Number: 5507 Registered: 04-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 02:00 pm: |
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BB123, First. Ain't NOBODY advocating no pedophilia up in here. So don't go getting all Moral Majority on me. Look. Every guy was once that hornya$$ kid in high school. And that first blush of Hot Young Thang NEVER really leaves man. (Hell. That's really the ONLY reason Britney Spears ever had a 'singing' career to begin with.) Meagan’s smartly made herself into to a LEGAL version of that chick every guy in gym class wanted to lay wood to. Really. The whole things pretty natural...at least in a lascivious sorta way, that is. |
Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2414 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 02:21 pm: |
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ABM, I've posted my first poem about Charles Stepney. http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/4/13271.html?1154110485 I pray he likes it.
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Fortified "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Fortified
Post Number: 211 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 02:29 pm: |
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Kenya Moore had a booty implant Megan Goode is cute, but her make-up makes her look like a transsexual. I like: Bianca Lawson Liya Kebede Maia Campbell Naomie Harris Taral Hicks Claudette Ortiz |
Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2427 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 03:05 pm: |
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Kenya Moore would have gone MUCH further if she'd been about 10 shades lighter. And that's the truth. When she was in the Miss Universe Pageant, though--I did wish she had dropped about 10 pounds before entering. She was TOO thick for that type of competition. Naomi Campbell is gorgeous like a black stallion. Megan Goode is very pretty, but she seems way too conceited. I guess at her age--with all the boys hyping her, she can't help it.
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Tonya Veteran Poster Username: Tonya
Post Number: 70 Registered: 07-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 04:02 pm: |
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I think Meagan Goode has a beautiful face but that's where it all ends. Her body looks really nasty..like she needs a bath..like she stinks---to barrow a line from Abm: like she's grossly in need of some of the Massengil products! |
Lil_ze "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 251 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 08:21 pm: |
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a few of the most beautiful in no order. bianca lawson rachel true dominique dawes tyrell hicks joy bryant dania ramirez (she was in the fat albert movie and in x-men 3) ciara |
Lil_ze "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 252 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 08:24 pm: |
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fortified, you are a smart man. bianca lawson is so dam fine. when i see her i get a bit light headed. |
Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 636 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 09:37 pm: |
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Gabrielle Union Gabrielle Union Gabrielle Union Gabrielle Union Gabrielle Union Gabrielle Union Gabrielle Union |
Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 637 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:23 pm: |
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More Pics of Gabby Union |
Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 638 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:27 pm: |
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Oh I love Aisha Tyler too. |
Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 639 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:30 pm: |
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Selita Ebanks |
Lil_ze "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 272 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:46 pm: |
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aisha tyler is married to the white man. to hell with her. |
Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 658 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:52 pm: |
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"aisha tyler is married to the white man. to hell with her." She's only helping to produce more Keyshia Cole clones for you to worship. |
Lil_ze "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 277 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 01:50 am: |
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how stupid for you to say such a thing, brownbeauty. do you have any proof that keyshia cole's father was a white man? of course you don't, so why say such a stupid thing? keyshia cole is black. both of her parents are black. so i really don't see what your point is. keyshia cole's mother never was married to, or had a baby by a white man. so other than more irrational hatred directed toward light skin women, i don't see the point you are attempting to make. i think keyshia cole is fine. but don't try to link her with the children of white men and black women. keyshia cole is black. neither of her parents is white. |
Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 641 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 03:21 am: |
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I still think she is beautiful even though I don't like her choice in mates. |
Brownbeauty123 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 659 Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 09:40 am: |
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Lil_ze, if it weren't for interracial unions people who LOOK like Keisha Cole wouldn't be here. Aisha Tyler is doing you a favor |
Lil_ze "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 281 Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 04:45 pm: |
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brownbeauty, your comment proves just how narrow minded and jealous you really are. "if it weren't for interracial unions people who look like keyshia cole wouldn't be here". this is just false. not only is it false but its stupid. where is the proof that people who look like keyshia cole wouldn't be here if it were not for interracial unions? only simple minded ignorant people would think that all of our people were black as coal, and then because of interracial unions, now we have people that look like keyshia cole. how simple. there are families that have dark skin parents and children of all shades. keyshia cole is black. she looks the way she does because this is how some of our people look. not due to interracial unions, but because we as a people can look many different ways. its one of the BIGGEST lies ever told, that some of our people are lighter skin because of race mixing or interracial unions. these lies have bees told in an effort to confuse us. some of our people have always looked like keyshia cole (from the time we were brought from africa, and before), some of our people have always looked like will smith, some of our people have always looked like denzel washington, some of our people have always looked like ciara, some of our people have always looked like aaliyah, some of our people have always looked like micheal jordan. our people don't look one way, we NEVER have, even before we came to america. try not to believe EVERYTHING the white man tells you. also, stop being so jealous of our women who are lighter. |
Fortified "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Fortified
Post Number: 227 Registered: 04-2006
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 05:07 pm: |
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^^^^Lil_ze FYI: I am a black woman, who can find beauty in all shades of black people. Beauty isn't in the complexion or the straightness of the nose, but overall symmetry.
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Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2502 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 05:43 pm: |
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I agree 100% fortified.
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Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2503 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 05:49 pm: |
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I've always thought that Julie Roberts is really beautiful when she smiles----and she and Whitney Houston have the same identical smile. Both are beautiful. And I think Beyonce and Halle Berry are absolutely gorgeous---and both (TO ME) could be related to the much darker Naomi Campbell and IMAN. I also feel that CeCe Winans is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. And though it's not popular---I see enormous PRETTINESS in the face of comedian Monique. I don't know HOW people can even deny it. She has very beautiful simmetry. Of course, when I was a kid and being African---I thought Esther Rolle was beautiful and that John Amos was a handsome lion, but few could see what I saw. And when we look at the countenance of Grace Jones---we are seeing EXACTLY what a Nubian Goddess actually looks like. But I find Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Lopez (in the movie "SELENA") to be very beautiful as well.
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Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2504 Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 05:51 pm: |
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Gladys Knight is another GREAT BEAUTY that people just can't see. But of course, her symmetry is West African---not nordic. In Ghana, for instance, her "lips" would be the proof that she is descended from the Goddess Flower. They wouldn't be called "soup coolers". That whole thing on "symmetry", Fortified, is very important for people to get.
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