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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 03:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So I’m watching VH-1 “Hip Hop Videos: Sexploitation on the Set” the other day...

...And I’m thinking: Sex has a way of making hypocrites of us all. Because even the most righteous men will in some fashion and degree BUY a$$ and even the most righteous women will in some fashion and degree SELL a$$.

Even the airing of show was itself sexually duplicitous. Because it alleges to break the seal on “sexploitation” in the hip-hop music, yet over 80% of what was actually AIRED was a$$/titty shaking. So as I watching this, I have these conflicted experiences of being quite disgusted and feeling sorry for the young women...YET getting a boner that’s harder than reinforced steel.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 04:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Reinforced steel huh. Well next time - CHANGE THE CHANNEL to something more wholesome!!!

The buying, selling and trading of sex as you describe it is called prostitution. And it occurs about 1,000 per millisecond around the globe. Which is why I have said that prostitution should be legalized, since everyone's doing it anyway. Look, the wife stays home and takes care of the kids/household all day, and the husband brings home the bacon - and when he wants some coochie she's at his service, right? And the video vixen wants her shot at celebrity so she gives the musician, producer, director some coochie. What's the damn difference? It's all prostitution. If I were the video vixen I would want that deal in writing thus - I'll give you some coochie and you guarantee me two minutes of coverage in the video.

As to the sexually explicit videos. To be honest, they don't bother me. But why is it that while we are in the midst of an AIDS epidemic, which has adversely affected Black women in frightening proportions, why do we continue glorifying loose, promiscuous and immoral sexual conduct? By immoral I mean multiple sex partners, unprotected sex, sex with ppl you barely know. What sort of an example are these videos setting for young impressionable minds?
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 04:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Hey babe. Though I'm not exactly proud of why it occurred, I LIKE to be able get an erection. Because the alternative's a son-of-a-b*tch.

I agree prostitution should be legal, for all the reasons you cite. Moreover, I think legalized prostitution might CLARIFY things between men and women in ways that we are sorely lacking.

The record companies, music and video producers & directors and artist are BUSINESS PEOPLE. They simply do NOT give a dayam about much of anything UNLESS it embellishes or harms their bank accounts.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:02 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM - As always, I appreciate your candor. I'm just glad that when I'm aroused, nobody could tell it unless I want them to.
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri: "I'm just glad that when I'm aroused, nobody could tell it unless I want them to..."

...or leave a little surprise on the chair I had been sitting in.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think Bet cancelling Uncut was a joke. Hipocrisy for sure. So why cancel the show, if they're going to turn around and give the rappers awards at the next awards show.

CB

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Brownbeauty123
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 08:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That Asian chick in there brought back memories of Alienation.

It appears Karrine "Superhead" Steffans got passed around so much through the industry that her booty became yesteryears trash that she couldn't profit from selling her ass anymore so she resorted to writing a boring tell-all book.
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 08:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BB123,

That's pretty much what I think about Steffans as well. I get the impression that her only real lament is Superhead got played out.

And the Asian chick chick sounding and acting like she grew up in the South Bronx or something was quite, uh, unsettling to say the least.
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Abm
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The other part I found interesting was how some of the Video Models looked down upon the other women who, presumeably, were boning and BJing the rappers, directors, etc.
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can't believe those rich athletes and rappers were PAYING Karrine hundred thousands of dollars for some booty. Don't these wealthy kind of men normally have women giving it up for free? She has to got to be embellishing her story.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 09:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Men pay for sex because they don't like game playing. They get tired of taking a woman out, wining and dining and spending hundreds of dollars on champagne, then they get in the car or back to his place and the woman starts acting like she's going to play hard to get, or she's gonna claim she was raped. That gets old for men, especially when they are powerful and wealthy tycoons and athletes that prefer to have it their way. So they'd rather pay someone how ever much, two-hundred - two-thousand, and they can get it how they want it for as long as they want it (within reason obviously). Man, if prostitution were legalized today, I'd be runnin me some hos tomorrow.
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Brownbeauty123
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 09:54 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Karrine once stated she was having men depositing $100,000 in her bank account. That's a ridiculous amount of money for some sex.

For that large sum, you might as well start selling your ass right along with 'em.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

$100K seems kind of outrageous, but you never know. What does she look like?

BTW, if you get HBO, there's boxing on tonight and Lennox is a commentator. I think you can see him tonight if he's working. They're currently showing the Mosley PPV fight from last week, but there's going to be live boxing in a few minutes. Okay.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:46 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lennox isn't commentating tonight. If you want to see him, keep your eyes open for HBO boxing. That is a GORGEOUS man!!!
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Abm
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Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 07:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some of the men might not have been paying Steffans strickly for sex. Some of them might have (at least, momentarily) really liked her and wanted to look out for her. And if I'm Jay-Z and I made 2 million bucks this week, it might not be that big a deal for me to throw 5 or 10 grand at someone I really like...and who happens to give some great head.
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Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 08:00 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABM - Agreed, but $100K - that's kind of much for upkeep and sexual favors, I don't care if you're The Donald.
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Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 09:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

I suspect the $100K is an inflated number Steffans put into the book so as to attempt to avoid looking like your proverbial "cheap ho". You know, it's sort of a Yeah. I took money for sex. But at least I really got PAID to give up the a$$. So you other b*tches can hate on THAT!!! kind of thing.
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Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess she didn't give much thought to Mr. IRS, did she. LOL.
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Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 06:43 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tricks don't pay for pussy.

They pay for the pussy to GO HOME.
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Regardless of how you slice it, yousa TRICK if you paying a hoe to screw you. THere are plenty of groupies out there that will fuck a man for free just for bragging rights and he ain't got to shell out nothing except a rubber full of dick. Karrine Steffens is just aiight looking. SHe's not this gorgeous woman that has men under her spell.

Basically she was a jump off hoe that had a rep of sucking dick like a pro (although I saw the video with her and Mr. Marcus and she's all hands) and she's easily used.

I don't believe men were paying her thousands to bed her. PLEASE. She's already been caught in lie after lie, especially when Kool G Rap (her babydaddy) and Ma Barker fronted her ass on a radio show.

Naw, she ain't nothing special - in fact she's easily forgetable looking - but she just had a hustler type of a mind to put the shits down on paper to make some paper.

Can't knock the girl's game. She was a hoe that penned a book full of fact and fiction.

Good for her. Her vagina was probably so worn out and wide that a man with a dick the size of a tree limb couldn't get no friction.
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rachel,

Now THAT was deliciously nasty.

Really. I'm actually kinda getting hard right now.
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:22 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No friction huh? No problem. Maybe I could sell that ho some of my ancient secret douche formula. You know, the one that turns old pussy into some brand new hot and extra spicy pussy. LOL!
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:24 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Babe. If you pour some of that stuff on STEFFANS' cQQchie, the shyt's liable to explode and take out 4 city blocks!!!
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The ancient secret douche formulation is completely hypo-allergenic, nonflammable, nontoxic, noncorrosive and no explosions shall occur until the pussy is fully engaged.
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mzuri,

Babe. I don't care if that formula of yours includes the Nectar of the GODS. It can't do much against a cQQchie that favoring something like...
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ancient Evil Language of SAURON:


Translation: "The cQQchies burnt up, MAYNE!!! Run, NIKKA!!!"
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 05:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LMBAO.

You know good and well that once that fetid cooch'd broad got juiced up she could loose an entire leg of lamb in her cavern! I don't think a douche made with God's sweat could tighten her worn out notch up!

I'm just saying!
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 06:14 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One thing I don't understand is these rappers are caught between a "Rock and a Hardplace". If these do these video's and don't use BW they will be labeled "sellouts". But if they do these video's and use BW's then they are accused of exploiting women.

Should these rappers not use women at all? What should they do?
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Serenasailor,

I think the issue is not whether rappers should use BW in the videos. The issue is HOW they're being used in the videos.
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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Should these rappers not use women at all? What should they do?

No need to IMO. Just do the thuggish ignorant strutting and bouncing around they normally do. Why drag women into it? The people who are attracted to that pathetic brain dead nonsense are going to buy their CD's and watch their self degrading videos anyway.

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Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with ABM 100%

It's not what you do---it's how you do it.

I personally love seeing men and women together, but it could be portrayed so much more "meaningful" and could be "respectful" of both parties.

The way it is now--they both are shown as Trash.




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Abm
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kola,

I think Black male artist such as Kanye West, Common and John Legend attempt to present more balanced and complimentary depictions of women in their videos. But there certainly are not ENUFF of such going on.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ESPECIALLY...John Legend.

I love his videos.

Common, too.



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