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Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 04:43 pm: | 
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Do the Spike Thing
What the studio doesn't want you to know about Spike Lee's new movie.
by Sonny Bunch
03/24/2006 12:00:00 AM
IF I WERE TO MENTION the new movie, Inside Man, what would you think of first? Its impressive list of stars, which includes Denzel Washington, Jodie Foster, and Clive Owen? Its powerhouse producer, Brian Grazer? Some vague notion that it's yet another slick heist movie being foisted upon the public?
Or that it's a Spike Lee Joint?
If you're a casual moviegoer, it's entirely possible that you would have no idea that the most acclaimed movie of the year is a Spike Lee picture. The only reasonable explanation for this is that the studio wants it that way. The 30-second television advertisements for Inside Man make practically no mention of the fact that the sometimes-controversial director helms the picture, save for the final two seconds when his name--along with 11 other--is listed in the commercial credits. While the theatrical trailers display his name slightly more prominently, his Oscar credentials are not touted as are those of the stars and producer.
In the past, it's been almost impossible to see an advertisement for a "Spike Lee Joint," as he deems his films, without knowing its lineage. The truly awful She Hate Me featured the label in bright pink and black about halfway through the trailer; The Original Kings of Comedy proudly proclaimed itself to be a Spike Lee Joint in its theatrical trailer; Summer of Sam's voiceover boldly states that picture is a Spike Lee Joint. His films bore the moniker as far back as his first major release, 1988's School Daze.
But neither Inside Man, nor 2002's 25th Hour, were touted as "Spike Lee Joints" in their trailers. Why the change? The most obvious answer would be economics. Spike Lee, quite simply, is not a profitable director, and he hasn't been for some time. His first two major motion pictures, School Daze and Do the Right Thing, were both produced for around $6.5 million. The first made more than double its budget domestically, and the second is his most profitable film to date (other than The Original Kings of Comedy, which owes its success far more to the standup comedians performing in it than the man behind the camera), with a domestic gross of $27.5 million. His winning streak continued for two more films: Jungle Fever made an $18.5 million profit, and Malcolm X brought home just over $14 million more than its budget. Since then, however, Lee hasn't made a drama that ended up in the black. Some have been modest failures (Crooklyn, for example, lost only about $400,000). Others have been much bigger flops. (She Hate Me cost $8 million to produce and brought in less than $400,000 at the box office. Clockers lost even more money; the $25 million piece was almost $12 million in the red.)
The question becomes, then, how does one make a Spike Lee movie profitable? Grazer's Imagine Entertainment is probably banking on the fact that white audiences are unlikely to attend what they imagine will be a two hour lesson on why society is racist. Removing the "Spike Lee Joint" tag from his picture will almost certainly increase its marketability at the box office with whites. It's not too much of a stretch to guess that Inside Man might wind up as Lee's highest grossing movie; his previous best is Malcolm X's $48.4 million.
That's not to say that Spike has sold out. The first thing you notice on the screen when the movie begins is that wonderful phrase, "A Spike Lee Joint." (It's almost like Lee is saying "Nyah nyah" to all the people who came to the movie not realizing it's his work.) The social commentary is present, though more muted than in his previous films (for example, the lead thief in the heist, Clive Owen, criticizes the negative portrayal of inner-city blacks in a video game. Sure, it's not Mookie throwing a trash can through a white-owned pizzeria window, a la Do the Right Thing, but subtle social criticism is often far more effective). And his trademark annoying, unnecessary camera moves remain, but they're kept to a minimum.
In other words, it's definitely a Spike Lee Joint. He just doesn't want anyone to know that going in.
Sonny Bunch is an assistant editor at The Weekly Standard.
© Copyright 2005, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.
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A_womon
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This coming from a guy who couldn't even come up with a better pen name than "Sunny Bunch?" |
Jackie
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 02:59 pm: |
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I saw the "Inside Man" last night...and it was pretty good. The twist at the end was pretty original...granted there were a lot of jokes about women's breasts, and of course the racial jokes is always a signature of Lee's. And for the color conscious folks, Denzel Washington's character "Keith Frazier" had a black wife! LOL ! |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 273
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 03:56 pm: |
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The reason Spike Lee's not mentioned more prominently is because he didn't write or produce this film. And his recent comments regarding the govt's bombing of the levees might have put him out of favor with white ppl. That would be my guess. |
Chrishayden
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The movie was #1 this weekend so the Great Right Wing Conspiracy--foiled again! |
Brownbeauty123
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Spike Lee is always discussing the color complex within the black community. Is he just discussing the problem or trying to find a solution?
You never see him with a woman darker than a butterscotch.
I think his wife is very lightskin. |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 08:16 am: |
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What you will begin to notice, Brownbeauty, is that black people are some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet. You are right. Spike Lee's a hypocrite, a white supremacist... and his wife is lightskinned. |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 03:37 pm: |
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I think Denzel's usually having a black wife in his movies probably have more to do with him wanting one than the producers/directors deciding to give him one. He just strikes me as the type who thinks about the message he's sending when he portrays a character. MHO. |
Dakota
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Renata: You're right. Plus, Denzel's wife is a brown-skinned beauty. So, he's been doing the right thing from the beginning! |
Tonya
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Yeah, I agree too ladies. But Denzel and (I think, not sure) Samual L. Jackson seem to be the only two black men, who've "made it," that we can be proud of completely, for their talent, intelligence, success, and, more importantly, for being black men with pride. Are there others? And does anyone know what color Samual Jackson's wife is? Oh, and, what about Danny Glover - who is he married to? |
Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 07:33 pm: |
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Denzel Washington, despite the negative rumors of jealous people---loves Black women and black people in general. Almost all of the black women he's paired with in his films are dark brown, and that's been ON PURPOSE. There are several interviews where he's talked about wanting to represent the right image for the black community and he's the VERY FIRST "black male" movie star to present us with these images of black couples and black families. His career is REVOLUTIONARY, as he's the Anti-Poitier, the Anti-Belafonte. His films DO NOT encourage "assimilation". He presents the Black Man as an "autonomous" HUMAN BEING.
Samuel Jackson's wife is Latonya Richardson, a deep chocolate beauty with negroid features, Tonya.
I don't know about Danny Glover, other than to say I've heard that his WIVES are Orpah/Latifa-types when it comes to looks.
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Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 08:02 pm: |
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Kola:
..he's the VERY FIRST "black male" movie star to present us with these images of black couples and black families. His career is REVOLUTIONARY...
Tonya:
Wow....
Wow....
Seriously, I did not know that!
First of all, Denzel gotta get more props. He certainly will be getting more love from me. But I had absolutely NO idea that he was the first, jeez. The first...??? I'm at a lost for words.... I'm shocked. |
Kola_boof
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The first in AMERICA that is.
Africa has quite a few. But Denzel is the first Black MALE to cast nappy-haired dark skinned women (like him) as his wives in 80% of his films---they're shown as loving "team" couples (Regina Hall, Kimberly Elise, Angela Bassett)---with black children and extended family. He INSISTED on this.
And any other black actor could have done the same.
The WHITE studios really don't care who plays the "wife" or "girlfriend".
On the upcoming "MIAMI VICE" film, Jaime Foxx picked a Chinese woman to be his girlfriend and in ALL his upcoming films--he's paired with non-black romantic interests, because that's how he likes to see himself on screen. Will Smith CHOSE latin and white women to be his last two co-stars.
When the "BLADE" film became a major box office hit---Wesley Snipes had them deviate from the storyline of the comic strip and REMOVE the black love interest (N'Bushe Wright) from the sequels. He wanted "Blade" to be....free....and was paired with a WHITE RUSSIAN woman in the sequel.
Sidney Poitier and Cicely Tyson were never paired in a film---because Poitier didn't want to play a love interest to Cicely Tyson. In his movie about him marrying an African princess (a role that the STUDIOS wanted to cast Cicely in)---they ended up casting a high yellow actress as the African Princess and PAINTED HER brown. Poitier did that at the height of the "Black Power" movement. His films always promoted assimilation and the idea that marrying white or damn near white was an achievement for a black man.
Read Diahann Carroll's autobiography to really find out how colorstruck he was (they were lovers, and she's no better than he was).
His OSCAR WIN was for "Lilies of the Field", where he protected and upheld the honor of a group of white nuns.
No Black leading man....BEFORE DENZEL...ever insisted on presented the image of a black family as "intact", "viable" and "beautiful".
Belafonte and Poitier's, Paul Robeson's and even Jim Brown's films were concerned solely with the Black Man's EGO and ability to attract the White Man's mother.
Denzel Washington is the first Black American to show an authentically black man IN LOVE and devoted to an authentically black woman. And he's made it a rule throughout his career. That's why...if he were ever to do an interracial love story...I would support it and love the film, because I know it would have to be real love for his character to do that.
He's not a nigger--he's a Man!
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Brownbeauty123
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 10:33 am: |
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Kola, has any of the African American actors been questioned as to why they choose nonblack actresses as their love interest? If so, what were their excuses?
There was a little controversy over Will Smith, and Eva Mendes in the movie 'Hitch'. And I recall a radio DJ discussing the trend in Black man Nonblack actress roles, and all they did was preach all this love is colorblind crap.
Love is colorblind. But if that is so, how come Black women can't be apart of that? Everybody is in love with every color but a Black woman. I understand that the media is trying to pimp this multicultural lifestyle--but it fails miserably because its not an even representation. They're leaving Black women out of this. |
Kola_boof
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The entire thing, BrownBeauty, is about White Supremacy and Strategy.
STRATEGICALLY:
Children receive acculturation through their "mothers"---not their fathers.
The black woman's womb, produces BLACK men----so if a black woman has to be celebrated---they prefer to use a Mulatto Yellow woman whose womb/genetics are LESS BLACK, mixed and neutral; and whose acculturation will more likely be "universal" rather than "African Black-identified".
This is why light brown women like Jayne Kennedy and Irene Cara could be celebrated....but now a deep chocolate beauty like Roshumba or Brenda Sykkes.
Black western mothers have gone along with the idea that "light" is better and have raised up generations of colorstruck black sons....including "proud talk'n black men" like Amiri Baraka, Huey Newton, Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Ice Cube, Russell Simmons, Will Smith
How can you expect HOLLYWOOD to present images of beautiful black women when our community doesn't believe that black women are beautiful?
On the t.v. show AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL, they have this gorgeous (albeit malnourished) Nigerian beauty named Nnenna who is dominating the show right now----they had the dark regal YaYa two years back----but you will notice that neither SPIKE LEE or any black filmmaker or Black STAR ACTOR is tapping these "Authentic Black Women" for leading lady roles in their films.
Antonio Banderas request YaYa for his new film "Take the Lead"....and as Angela Bassett stated on the Charlie Rose Show---if it had not been for WHITE MALE directors, women like herself and Cicely Tyson would never have been given a chance to play wives, girlfriends or "attractive" leading ladies in films.
"Boyz 'N the Hood" and Spike Lee's films showcasing Angela Bassett DID NOT OCCUR---until she was first given roles in films Produced/Directed by White Men. Those films were unsuccessful----but no black filmmaker would hire Angela Bassett---they felt only YELLOW actresses could play the leading lady in black films.
The reason is because BLACK AMERICA has always upheld Lena Horne as its standard of "beauty"----and by holding up LENA, who doesn't look black----you train your children to see beauty in Latin, Bi-racial, White....other extremely Light Complexions.
In the late 60's and 1970's, Black Americans attempted to change that by embracing Lola Folana, Pam Grier and Cicely Tyson (who was the first black woman to wear her natural hair in films--she was a gorgeous fashion model and wore an AFRO 10 years before the Pro-Black movement began). But these images didn't TRULY catch on----as BET and the Hip Hop movement pointed out when they came into vogue in the 1980's--til now.
The fact is, BROWNBEATUY123....when you teach black children to IDOLIZE the biracial looks of Halle Berry and Alicia Keys-----you are grooming (conditioning) them to eventually choose the real thing----which is Salma Hayek, Angelina Jolie and Eva Mendes.
The Black Community has not ever endorsed a CHOCOLATE FEMALE beauty icon. The closest they came was Lauryn Hill, and she was too "feminist and radical" to accept being a beauty icon.
Naomi Campbell and Iman were BOTH discovered by White Men in EUROPE and were introduced to U.S. audiences by EUROPE and by White Fashion.
Grace Jones created herself 100% and wasn't embraced by Blacks until looooonnng after she'd been annointed by WHITE FILMMAKERS and Gay Clubgoers. "Boomerang" came at the end of her career---and look how they portrayed her in that movie. But, of course, Black Americans don't know that Grace Jones is EXACTLY what a Nubian woman looks like---a virtual replica of a Nubian tribesperson. So while they call "Halle Berry" a Nubian Queen in the movie---they portray the authentic Nubian-looking woman as a JOKE. And like Grace said--she had to cultivate that bizarre image, because it's the only way that people would accept a dark chocolate African-looking goddess image. She had to be "non-threatening" sexually.
And why haven't Lightskinned YELLOW women never complained about this casting dilemna back when every black man had to be paired with a high yellow lightskinned woman in a film???? It's only recently, as Latinas, Asians and White Girls take over the roles previously reserved for Vonetta McGee, Lonette Mckee, Irene Cara, Lena Horne, Dorothy Dandridge----that these women are up in arms about "colorism" in film casting.
It's all part of WHITE SUPREMACY. It has nothing to do with "love" or "colorblindness".
The goal is to eventually BREED the Black Americans off the continent of North America. And it's working.
Black Americans have gotten lighter and whiter with each generation since slavery ended.
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Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 05:50 pm: |
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Kola, has any of the African American actors been questioned as to why they choose nonblack actresses as their love interest? If so, what were their excuses?
Spike Lee gave an interview to NEWSWEEK in the 1980's where he admitted that he was COLORSTRUCK---and then on the JAY LENO SHOW he admitted that most black men in this society are colorstruck and that he wishes he hadn't been raised that way, but it's just part of the black community.
I have always loved him for making those comments.
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Shyfox
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The only Spike Lee movie that I have ever watched from beginning to end is "Malcolm X". |
Abm
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Shyfox: "The only Spike Lee movie that I have ever watched from beginning to end is "Malcolm X."
What's the matter? ADD? |
Shyfox
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What's the matter? ADD?
No. |
Brownbeauty123
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Kola,
I've noticed on several occassions that Black men are usually in denial about colorism being practiced. If I were to have a discussion about this with a group of Black men, they will come up with every non-related excuse in the book as to why the featured girl in a movie/video/commerical/magazine layout is lightskin/nonblack. They will not acknowledge colorism, and will discredit any black woman's opinion who points this out as being insecure, bitter, and cynical. |
Kola_boof
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Exactly BrownBeauty123.
Which is why I write the books I do.
And which is also why, my loyalty as an African woman is to my womb--not the black man--and which is why I have STOPPED referring to the white man as "the devil".
Black men want everything the White man has. TO COPY, to emulate and to BE HIM....as completely as possible. They don't want "change", they want EXCHANGE. They want to ADOPT his standards, beliefs and his whiteness.
So for the black woman--our oppressor/devil is any man who believes in and defends White Supremacy, and that's the Majority---every red blooded American male.
And for the white woman, because she's White---she is loved, protected and considered human by any man who wants what the white man has/is.
We're fucked, sista.
The best we can do is "consciously" give birth to a new son, but as you can see----many black women are just giving up altogether on our race. Because the black man has.
And 500 years ago---this is exactly how your ancestors were sold into bondage so easily. The black man--back then--thought he was getting something special, too.
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Tonya
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The entire thing, BrownBeauty, is about White Supremacy and Strategy.
STRATEGICALLY:
Children receive acculturation through their "mothers"---not their fathers.
The black woman's womb, produces BLACK men----so if a black woman has to be celebrated---they prefer to use a Mulatto Yellow woman whose womb/genetics are LESS BLACK, mixed and neutral; and whose acculturation will more likely be "universal" rather than "African Black-identified".
This is why light brown women like Jayne Kennedy and Irene Cara could be celebrated....but now a deep chocolate beauty like Roshumba or Brenda Sykkes.
Black western mothers have gone along with the idea that "light" is better and have raised up generations of colorstruck black sons....including "proud talk'n black men" like Amiri Baraka, Huey Newton, Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Ice Cube, Russell Simmons, Will Smith
How can you expect HOLLYWOOD to present images of beautiful black women when our community doesn't believe that black women are beautiful?
On the t.v. show AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL, they have this gorgeous (albeit malnourished) Nigerian beauty named Nnenna who is dominating the show right now----they had the dark regal YaYa two years back----but you will notice that neither SPIKE LEE or any black filmmaker or Black STAR ACTOR is tapping these "Authentic Black Women" for leading lady roles in their films.
Antonio Banderas request YaYa for his new film "Take the Lead"....and as Angela Bassett stated on the Charlie Rose Show---if it had not been for WHITE MALE directors, women like herself and Cicely Tyson would never have been given a chance to play wives, girlfriends or "attractive" leading ladies in films.
"Boyz 'N the Hood" and Spike Lee's films showcasing Angela Bassett DID NOT OCCUR---until she was first given roles in films Produced/Directed by White Men. Those films were unsuccessful----but no black filmmaker would hire Angela Bassett---they felt only YELLOW actresses could play the leading lady in black films.
The reason is because BLACK AMERICA has always upheld Lena Horne as its standard of "beauty"----and by holding up LENA, who doesn't look black----you train your children to see beauty in Latin, Bi-racial, White....other extremely Light Complexions.
In the late 60's and 1970's, Black Americans attempted to change that by embracing Lola Folana, Pam Grier and Cicely Tyson (who was the first black woman to wear her natural hair in films--she was a gorgeous fashion model and wore an AFRO 10 years before the Pro-Black movement began). But these images didn't TRULY catch on----as BET and the Hip Hop movement pointed out when they came into vogue in the 1980's--til now.
The fact is, BROWNBEATUY123....when you teach black children to IDOLIZE the biracial looks of Halle Berry and Alicia Keys-----you are grooming (conditioning) them to eventually choose the real thing----which is Salma Hayek, Angelina Jolie and Eva Mendes.
The Black Community has not ever endorsed a CHOCOLATE FEMALE beauty icon. The closest they came was Lauryn Hill, and she was too "feminist and radical" to accept being a beauty icon.
Naomi Campbell and Iman were BOTH discovered by White Men in EUROPE and were introduced to U.S. audiences by EUROPE and by White Fashion.
Grace Jones created herself 100% and wasn't embraced by Blacks until looooonnng after she'd been annointed by WHITE FILMMAKERS and Gay Clubgoers. "Boomerang" came at the end of her career---and look how they portrayed her in that movie. But, of course, Black Americans don't know that Grace Jones is EXACTLY what a Nubian woman looks like---a virtual replica of a Nubian tribesperson. So while they call "Halle Berry" a Nubian Queen in the movie---they portray the authentic Nubian-looking woman as a JOKE. And like Grace said--she had to cultivate that bizarre image, because it's the only way that people would accept a dark chocolate African-looking goddess image. She had to be "non-threatening" sexually.
And why haven't Lightskinned YELLOW women never complained about this casting dilemna back when every black man had to be paired with a high yellow lightskinned woman in a film???? It's only recently, as Latinas, Asians and White Girls take over the roles previously reserved for Vonetta McGee, Lonette Mckee, Irene Cara, Lena Horne, Dorothy Dandridge----that these women are up in arms about "colorism" in film casting.
It's all part of WHITE SUPREMACY. It has nothing to do with "love" or "colorblindness".
The goal is to eventually BREED the Black Americans off the continent of North America. And it's working.
Black Americans have gotten lighter and whiter with each generation since slavery ended.
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Exactly BrownBeauty123.
Which is why I write the books I do.
And which is also why, my loyalty as an African woman is to my womb--not the black man--and which is why I have STOPPED referring to the white man as "the devil".
Black men want everything the White man has. TO COPY, to emulate and to BE HIM....as completely as possible. They don't want "change", they want EXCHANGE. They want to ADOPT his standards, beliefs and his whiteness.
So for the black woman--our oppressor/devil is any man who believes in and defends White Supremacy, and that's the Majority---every red blooded American male.
And for the white woman, because she's White---she is loved, protected and considered human by any man who wants what the white man has/is.
We're fucked, sista.
The best we can do is "consciously" give birth to a new son, but as you can see----many black women are just giving up altogether on our race. Because the black man has.
And 500 years ago---this is exactly how your ancestors were sold into bondage so easily. The black man--back then--thought he was getting something special, too.
_________ ___________ ___________
YOU ARE SOOOOO NEEDED, KOLA.
PLEASE, DON'T EVER GIVE UP ON US....
KEEP TELLING IT LIKE IT TRULY IS.
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Doberman23
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i have to give you credit for putting up a very good post kola, i see where your coming from with that. excellent job. |
Aglae
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Wow, at least Spike admitted it. That took courage. I remember once Harry Belefonte did an interview and said the thing that he disliked about Poitier is that he (Poitier) never made white people angry in his films. I agree with him, and that's why Poitier is probably held in higher esteem by the movie industry. He's definitely received more accolades than Belafonte. BTW, I think it's interesting to note that Shari Belafonte married/divorced a white man so Harry doesn't exactly practice what he preaches. Also Sidney's daughter was in a short-lived sitcom a few years ago. A big achievement for a girl no one had ever heard of before. |
Aglae
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Oh, and yes Kola--props for that post. most excellent. |
Sosodeath
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 01:38 pm: |
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Kola,
Interesting posts. I'm curious though, when you say, "The goal is to eventually BREED the Black Americans off the continent of North America," WHOSE goal is this? Black elites? Whites?
Also, you say that "Black Americans have gotten lighter and whiter with each generation since slavery ended." This is true, however, unsurprising. Minority populations almost always mix with and absorb genes from the larger majority group that surrounds them. Further, most of the gene flow from whites to the american black population has come via liasons between black women and white men. Genetic studies clearly show this. |
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