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Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 205
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 10:43 am: | 
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"Think about it - what happened to the Creoles? Blacks took their dishes, and some Creole dishes are now considered Soul Food. Blacks started naming their kids French and pseudo-French names, and now this has become too common. I mean, these are just two examples. So no more Creole culture - they just got "absorbed". When we establish our culture, we have to take every measure to prevent this from happening."
I got this from one of those mixed race forums who want to identify as Mulatto--not Black.
Is this true what they're saying?
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Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2155
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 01:30 pm: |
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I don't know what they are saying.
They can identify any way they want but it's the white folks who keep putting them in the bag and they are afraid to admit it.
Like that mulatto idiot up in Michigan or somewhere that took a white woman to a party full of drunken white men and got stomped for it.
Haw! His head was big as a basketball when they were through with him.
Let them do what they want--when the white folks start kicking them in the butt and they want to get all black we can throw them back in the water! |
Afroamerican
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Afroamerican
Post Number: 198
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 03:36 pm: |
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Steal culture like AA's claim Eminem & Justin Timberlake is "stealing" their culture??lol.
Quite frankly, unless someone happens to be living on a deserted desert island you and those around you will ALWAYS be INFLUENCED and ABSORB other people's culture.
That is part of the reason I disagree with Kola on the African issue. One can not have ancestors 500 years removed from Africa and retain a PURE African culture. It simply can't happen. |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 206
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 03:57 pm: |
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I don't know what to think of Mulattos. They confuse me.
They want to start their own communities to build their own identify away from being labeled a 'lightskin Black'...yet
How can they distance themselves from their forefathers? If such a community is built will both Blacks & Whites be welcomed?? Particularly Blacks...because their own very existance is due to Blacks & Whites not just them.
The Mulatto history is OUR history as well.
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Tonya
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2442
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 04:03 pm: |
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Girl let them people go.
I'm just glad they're forcing the rest of us to wake the hell up.
BTW, "Mulatto history" hated your black ass. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2443
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 04:08 pm: |
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They've wanted to separate for the longest; it's just that, now, they have the numbers to do so.
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Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 208
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 04:29 pm: |
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You're right Tonya.
But are they going to encourage Black & White interracial unions to further expand the Mulatto community? And if so, why exclude Blacks & Whites which are only helping them increase their Mulatto numbers?
It seems rather contradicting for them to be all for Mulatto unity when in fact they were created through interracial unions.
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Doberman23
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 333
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 04:30 pm: |
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you guys are retarded. especially you tonya. |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 209
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 04:32 pm: |
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Tonya,
what history do Mulattos have? Whatever history they have, rightly belongs to us first--we were here long before their asses. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2444
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 05:49 pm: |
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Beauty,
"But are they going to encourage Black & White interracial unions to further expand the Mulatto community? And if so, why exclude Blacks & Whites which are only helping them increase their Mulatto numbers?"
They're only going to accept that which makes them whiter.... That simple.
Dobes,
I may be retarded... but it's the truth.... Don't act like it ain't, Brother.
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Moonsigns
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Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1131
Registered: 07-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 03:41 pm: |
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Obviously, this day in age, society, in general, continues to identify biracials as only being Black--and blacks do it as much as whites. However, I strongly believe that biracial children have the right to identify as they choose, and I don't believe the hype that they do so to "run" from their blackness, because it's (usually) more than obvious they are mixed with black blood. Though biracial children will still experience racism/colorism to a certain extent, their socialization (generally) is different than a brown/black child(ren) who is born to two black parents, therefore, it's easily understandable why they want a social and racial distinction from both blacks and whites.
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2162
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 04:08 pm: |
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Moonsigns:
BS. Who has the power to make them black? Not us. Who is doing it? Who stomped that bi racial man for bringing in a white woman to a party? I thought you were married to a black man--if so you two must not talk very much-- |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 211
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 04:29 pm: |
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Moonsigns,
They're not just white, or just black--they're both. How can they build communities and opportunities that don't involve either races that made them who they are?
Since you have biracial children, you wouldn't mind them doing such a thing? |
Ngo
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Username: Ngo
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 07:22 am: |
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Brownbeauty, why are you so concerned about being accepted into a 'muleatto' community? Sure they can create little pocket communities such as the one in New Orleans, but they lack any demographic power. Mestizos on the other hand have a lot of demographic power, hell they have their own country bordering the US. They can just keep pumping more mestizos into the country. The total American muleatto population is no more than 3 million people with no significant economic power.So, for example, if there was a muleatto country bordering the US with about 100 million muleattos, then they'd have power to do anything they wanted.
The point is, if you have numbers to back you, you can call your group anything you want to. If there were 100 million Chinese in this country and they wanted to be called "Purple Nurple" then there's nothing anyone could do about it. But you can't have a small fraction of the US population say "we want to be seen as different" when they have no significant representation or economic power. The Puerto Ricans tried to have their own catagory on the census: Black, White, Asian, Puerto Rican? hahahaha
But as it were now, all they can resort to doing is begging people to notice that they "are not black, so society please see me as muleatto, please!! and don't ever call me black!" Plus they outmarry to whites at a rate of 70%(where's the muleatto pride?  ). They're no threat AT ALL, just a nuissance (atleast online). Mestizos have white (or spanish) blood but they don't go around saying "well, I am half white also, so respect that." They affirm Mexican and Native American pride.
Here's one pitiful example of a whining muleatto:
"Mules are actually more intelligent than both horses and donkeys but who cares where the word is derived from? (probably from muwallad anyway) Actual meaning and ethymological origin are far from the same. Fact is nobody thinks about mules or other animals when they see mulattoes and/or their families. Also nobody thinks mulattoes are sterile. These pseudoarguments are usually brought up by those who want to erase mulatto identity, ursurpate it because they have self-esteem issues, claim mulatto history for themselves and perpetuate a racist eugenist rule, simply because they suffer from inferiority complexes. Sad.xpark" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mulatto
So blacks are suppose to cater to muleattos now? Make sure no one calls you guys black? You know how insulting that is? For someone who is black to make sure someone else is not called black because they want to be known as muleatto - That's bullshit. And if blacks do the things above, so what? That's life. Eat or be eaten. If muleattos have political power then use it, don't go around asking people to be nice to you for the sake of being nice, that's not how the world works. |
Moonsigns
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1132
Registered: 07-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 01:32 pm: |
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Chrishayden:
"BS. Who has the power to make them black? Not us."
Moonsigns:
Chris, you act as if black people are just playing "follow the leader" when it comes to identifying biracials as black--like black people can't be discriminatory or violent when it comes to this issue. And though there are most definitely issues that occur on a larger scale that get media attention, there are tiny places all over the map where violent things happen against light or biracial people that are committed by dark skin people that never are reported (to police or the media). It goes both ways.
Chrishayden:
"I thought you were married to a black man--if so you two must not talk very much."
Moonsigns:
Chris, do all black people think alike?
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Moonsigns
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Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1133
Registered: 07-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 01:58 pm: |
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Brownbeauty:
"How can they build communities and opportunities that don't involve either races that made them who they are?"
Moonsigns:
Brownbeauty, they can build communities and opportunities just like any other "group" in America has/does. All human beings, on some level or another, are dependent on one another for survival--however--all human beings, to some extent, also desire for their "racial" backround to be acknowledged, respected and accepted. And biracials should not be an exception.
And, no, I don't "mind" if my children "do such a thing". It's their God-given right.
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2163
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 03:14 pm: |
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No--so you tell us. What does your husband have to say about racial identity, the one drop rule, etc etc.
Who, in his opinion, started it?
Or do you talk about that? |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2164
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 03:19 pm: |
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And it does not go both ways and you know it.
Item: How many cases do you know of all the black people moving out of a neighborhood when a bi racial person moves in? For that matter, how many times does it happen when a white person moves in?
Item: How many times have black people lynched bi racial people? Not hired them on jobs?
I could go on and on but you know where we are going. It seems like you equate comments some people make with the whole history of institutional and non institutional racism in this country--
You know what I think it is? A lot of white folks, consciously or unconsciously, think we are here to kiss their ass. Make them feel good. When we don't do that then they feel discriminated against.
Look at the exchanges we blacks have had here on this site--a lot of white folks would swear that we were hating on them--
But you know all this. It's just that when white folks hear a black person, especially a black man say this they get in denial. |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 351
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 11:09 pm: |
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Brownbeauty --
In some people's minds, it's how intellectual you are.
In some people's minds, it's how successful you are.
In some people's minds, it's what you are or how you are perceived, as in:
- Jet Black to Purple Black
- Darkie to Doo Doo Brown
- Cinnamon to Caramel
- Cashew Yellow to Fair
One of the biggest problems with Black America is that it’s (traditionally) been hell bent on trying to force people of mixed (e.g., biracial, multi-ethnic and multi-cultural) backgrounds to identify with black, or as black or AA. Since AA is a misnomer, the logic in that posture is absent. Frankly, the SIB (Self-Identified Black) inclusion agenda is a lost cause, and many SIBs are beginning to come to grips with the fact that they have absolutely “no” (as in zilch, zero) control of the matter anymore. SIBs have to let go of what they are not entitled to and face the fact that so-called Black America is and has been splitting first and foremost, along the color line. At that point, any other phenotype base becomes wholly irrelevant.
Basically, forget about affiliating with what you will never be, with people who don't want to associate with you, and don't try to be accepted where you are not welcome. Get over it, and be yourself, and have “fun” living.
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Shyfox
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Username: Shyfox
Post Number: 88
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 11:23 pm: |
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This is the sort of pathetic thing that happens when black people perpetuate the same hatred that has dogged our people all of these centuries. If they don't want to be called black or identify black, I certainly have no problem with it. Let 'em go. |
Linda
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Username: Linda
Post Number: 161
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 09:46 am: |
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Please let it be known that not all lightskinned/biracial individuals wish to be identified as any thing other than "black" It is not fair to lump everyone in the same bowl. Have a little respect for those who love themselves and their race regardless of the imaginary boundaries of some color-code. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2467
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 05:14 pm: |
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Nels:
Basically, forget about affiliating with what you will never be, with people who don't want to associate with you, and don't try to be accepted where you are not welcome. Get over it, and be yourself, and have "fun" living.
Tonya:
hear, hear. |
Ngo
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Username: Ngo
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 06:31 am: |
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I just want to say that I love you Tonya. hehe. |
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