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     Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor Post Number: 510 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
When I see pictures of Black Slaves lets say from the 1800's why do they look so different from us today? The physical features are extremely different. I think it is a shame that we look so different from our ancestors. Are we slowly breeding ourselves out? | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 291 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Who cares..? | ||
| Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor Post Number: 511 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
I do ASSHOLE!!! Just because you don't care about black ppl(your ownd ppl) does not mean that everyone doesn't. Of course you have no problem with not seeing authentic black ppl because you probably hate them anyway! Biyatch!!! | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 292 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
Ha!Ha! Ha! That's funny. I can't even get mad. Your silly goofy rants and racist ignorance used to irk and stun me. Not anymore. I no longer take any of it serious. But I do find you very entertaining and amusing. Having said that, you can go back and continue raving and calling me names. I don't mind. Ha! Ha! Ha! | ||
| Serenasailor "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Serenasailor Post Number: 515 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: |
Thank You, but now that you have already submitted to me. I have no need to further insult you. RECOGNIZE WHO IS THE KING!!!!! | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 4725 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
According to Kola Boof, that "well-known authority" on such things, black Americans look just like their African ancestors, and more of them are pure that are believed to be. Guess you and kola aren't on the same wave-length when it comes your favorite subject, serenasailor. | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 294 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"According to Kola Boof, that "well-known authority" on such things, black Americans look just like their African ancestors, and more of them are pure that are believed to be. Guess you and kola aren't on the same wave-length when it comes your favorite subject, serenasailor." Thank you.... | ||
| Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 2089 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
Oh great, it's the Mulattos against the True Blacks. FUCK OFF Cynique and NftSUCKA. | ||
| Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 2090 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
And as long as I'm an AFRICAN woman and there's any number of my children left in this country I'm going to do everything in my power to turn them against your runny asses! | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 297 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
""And as long as I'm an AFRICAN woman and there's any number of my children left in this country I'm going to do everything in my power to turn them against your runny asses!" Uhhhhhh....ok. And exactly what are you going to tell them? Oh, yeah, why did you get those cosmetic surgeries? I thought you looked fine as you were. And being a woman of color, at your age, don't you think your decision may have been a little premature? As I said, from your photos, you did not appear to need any cosmetic surgery. Just curious.... | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 4727 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
Puleeze, kola. Are you also going to tell black females to reject black males and hook up with Asian and Cuban and even Caucasian ones, and that black babies will come via an "immaculate conception" that will have to take place during a hiatus from the jobs they hold where they do the bidding of white folks? As a role model, you suck. LOL | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 2367 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
That is ridiculous. Look closely at the pictures and you'll see that they look just like we do--one big difference is that they lit black people and white people alike for all the pictures which were black and white instead of color--how do I know? I went to an integrated high school. When we got year book pictures you could barely see the black people no matter how light skinned they were. At the all black schools there were no such problems--the photographers used lighting for blacks instead of the same lighting for whites and blacks which of course made blacks look darker. All this disappeared when they went to color photos. It makes me wonder if the person who started this thread is out among REAL negroes at all. Where do you live? Really this race thing tends to drive some negroes insane--you need to backup | ||
| Chrishayden "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Chrishayden Post Number: 2368 Registered: 03-2004 Rating: N/A |
Kola: What will you do when your African children get white men and women (or Asian or hispanic) as increasing numbers of them are beginning to do? Just found out a female cousin is married to an Asian. Two male cousins are married to whtie women. What will be your attitude toward your grandchildren, who will be mixed? SAy what you want about those adults those children will have done nothing but been born. Will you kill them? Will you grab them by the ankles and beat their brains out against the wall? | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 2872 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Cut the bullshit--there's an obvious difference in how Negroes looked seventy years ago and how "AAs" look today. Serenasailor, you know it. I know it. Chris knows it. Everybody knows it. My question is how can it be okay for "mulattoes" and bi-racial and some light-skinned folks...and hell, even some mixed up dark-skinned folks...to identify and salute their family lineage---but not okay for cognizant (authentic black) folks to acknowledge their African origins and pay pilgrimage to that extraction? Why shouldn’t black/brown/authentic black folks want to recognize and preserve their lineage as Mulattoes have been doing for many many years, since slavery to be exact--why the double standard? | ||
| Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 2095 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: N/A |
As usual, NONE of you read a goddamned thing I posted. ....and TONYA, Right ON! and thank you! | ||
| Ntfs_encryption "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Ntfs_encryption Post Number: 305 Registered: 10-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Why shouldn’t black/brown/authentic black folks want to recognize and preserve their lineage as Mulattoes have been doing for many many years, since slavery to be exact--why the double standard?" Who said they couldn't or shouldn't? Where is that written? Or who said they should not? Details please... | ||
| Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 2096 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: |
Nfts... exactly WHAT 'cosmetic surgery' have I had???? Be specific. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 2873 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
No. Thank you sister. I'm learning to love me and you've been my biggest teacher. | ||
| Cynique "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Cynique Post Number: 4735 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
I ask the same question as you do, Ntfs. Why are we expected to defend stands that we've never taken in regard to "dark-skinned" slave descendants celebrating their heritage?????? Who said they shouldnt? Some folks seem to manufacture things to be indignant about, just for the dramatic effect. | ||
| Schakspir "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Schakspir Post Number: 313 Registered: 12-2005 Rating: N/A |
"Cut the bullshit--there's an obvious difference in how Negroes looked seventy years ago and how "AAs" look today." My older relatives(in their eighties and nineties)don't look that much different from me complexion- and feature-wise. | ||
| Yukio "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Yukio Post Number: 1319 Registered: 01-2004 Rating: N/A |
1. why do AA look different? socalled interracial procreation...that was an easy question. 2.Are we slowly breeding ourselves out? Difficult to answer. It depends on how we want to view or even understand what or how I ancestors "looked" in the 19th century. If this question is about socalled black and white races . . . I would say yes and no. A.While this question is about African Americans, I think we should consider that, at least among the educated and elite, West Indian and Africans, male and female, marry white folk with the quickness. I think that African Americans, Africans, and West Indians will continue to intermarry. And the African American elite are doing the same. In areas where there is a small black poor/working class in a large white poor/working class community there is substantial socalled "intermixing." So in this sense I say yes. B. There is also among the educated and socalled elite who are very concerned about Africanness and blackness in general . . . and there are those poorer folk who are mostly black nationalists based upon the organization of their communities, including schools, services, and education who will continue to date other black people. These two socio-economic classes also comprise Africans, African Americans, and West Indians. The latter is where I say no, we are not "breeding out." And this last segment, what I will call the indisputable black community, will outweigh the other, what I will class the interracial black community, because the black community is larger than the interracial black community. Thats one answer. Another more interesting matter is: If we are really talking about socalled "breeding" and how our ancestors looked in the 19th century, should we really limit this question to darkness? Which shade of black is acceptable? Is it not true that Africans were shipped to the states from the 17th century to as late as the 1850s [although the slave trade was suppose to end I believe 1807 or 1808]. In the interim, Africans came from different parts of West Africa, the COngo, and even areas of East Africa. Now, I don't know what these Africans looked like then. I do not doubt that they were all dark skinned, but what shade of dark and features should be consider to be the socalled authentic African American features? At what point in this period do we identify the socalled true African American? [In other words, is there a such thing as an authentic African American? And is this based on one's complexion? I posed this to an African once before, and I was dissed because I told the African that he was not "pure" and "authentic" just because he was bore and raised in Africa. I wondered how he could even believe such when Africans in Africa do not see themselve as Africans but the confluence part of a tribe, ethnic group, religion group etc... I can accept that one can claim to be authentically African but not black. The first bounded by being indigenous to a particular place and the latter an idea and history]and that if this is in fact true, and it is, then ] And should this be based on how people organized communities or color? Or should it be both? If it is a combination of the two, which I think it is, then is this issue of being African American less about breeding and more a question of consciousness, an attachment to a particular culture and heritage? The latter is what I believe . . . excuse the rambling! | ||
| Nels "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 432 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Serenasailor -- No, many Black slaves of the 19th Century don't look like a lot of so-called modern day "black" Americans for a variety of reasons. My suggestion, either get over it or buy a one-way discount Marcus Garvey ticket back to separatist oblivion. | ||
| Nels "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 433 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Yukio -- "2. Are we slowly breeding ourselves out?" It's already done, and there's no turning back. Next question. | ||
| Kola_boof "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Kola_boof Post Number: 2113 Registered: 02-2005 Rating: |
But, Nels...for those millions who haven't been bastardized, erased and compromised as you have --there is the honor and dignity of co-existing with other races...rather than being made a SYMBOL of "inferiority" as you have been. Your past comment is VERY SIMILAR to those of the African Kings who used to sell off their own people. You speak fully and PROUDLY like a bonafide nigger (wich is what you are)...happy to be fucked in the ass by the White man. Happy to see your own people GENETICALLY erased....so that you can..... ....live forever after in the shadow of the White man's greatness. Oh certainly he'll throw you a few bones sometimes. But you'll always be his nigger. His "sandal". Not all of us have been BRED OUT. In fact, the vast majority (who are never photographed or shown on t.v.) are still BLACK FOLKS, still look more African than anything else...and still might change their minds....about no more black babies...no more Denzel, no more Michael Jordan, no more Martin Luther King or Angela Bassett. In fact, I'd wager to bet that you---like the white people you APE----aren't even aware of the grassroots movement that's beginnning among "Black Folks". | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 2876 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
I'm surprised he hasn't killed himself yet. | ||
| Misty "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Misty Post Number: 149 Registered: 02-2006 Rating: |
"Cut the bullshit--there's an obvious difference in how Negroes looked seventy years ago and how "AAs" look today. Serenasailor, you know it. I know it. Chris knows it. Everybody knows it. " tonya, i think the biggest difference in how the slaves looked is that they were slaves...plain and simple. they were beaten, and had a hard life and that hard life shows up in their faces everytime you look at the pictures. They didnt have time or the will power to fix themselves up or do their hair. that's the biggest difference. Nowadays we have the time and the recources to take care of ourselves. | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 2886 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Hey Misty! It's not that they didn't fix themselves up--they were blacker. They were several shades darker than we are misty. Their lips were fuller, nose thicker, hair kinkier, skin more durable, ect. You call it fixing yourself up. I call it breeding out. If Sistahs were to stop fake processing their hair today, they'd look so much like slaves and Negroes that, then, there wouldn't be much of a difference. We don't look different because we have it easier. We go out of our way to look different because we WANT it easier. But you know the old saying, the more things change, the more they stay the same. | ||
| Nels "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 434 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Kola -- "But, Nels...for those millions who haven't been bastardized, erased and compromised as you have" I understand your predicament. Do you? | ||
| Doberman23 "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Doberman23 Post Number: 433 Registered: 01-2006 Rating: N/A |
misty i loaded you up with stars, your damn right about that. hell, white people look better than what they used to as well. not to mention medicine has improved and people don't smoke like they used to. tonya they where stuck outside all day when they where slaves that would make them darker don't you think? secondly how long after slavery do you think it took before black women wanted to start wearing better clothes, fixing their hair up, or doing something with themselves other than getting up and going to the fields? | ||
| Tonya "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Tonya Post Number: 2898 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
I'm not disputing the fact that we have cleaner clothes and are capable of taking showers when we want. I'm talking phenotype, brother. There are some black people today, who, when dressed up in their most extravagant duds, still look like the slaves did phenotypically: Don Cheadle. Bernie Mack. Ben Wallace. ECT.... Medicine and clothing did not "FIX" them "up." (Again, I don’t call it fixing up. I call it breeding out.) And are you saying that Don Cheadle is as black as he is from working in the fields?? Of course you're not. When we came here we were pure AFRICANS. And the rapes that took place during that time were not enough to have changed our phenotype as much as it has changed. | ||
| Nels "Cyniquian" Level Poster Username: Nels Post Number: 437 Registered: 07-2005 Rating: N/A |
Tonya -- "And the rapes that took place during that time were not enough to have changed our phenotype as much as it has changed." Interesting observation. On that note, what was the guestimated percentage of forced rape vs. voluntary IR intercourse? No slant please. |
