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Roxie
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Roxie
Post Number: 849
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 08:40 am: | 
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It doesn't just happen in Hollywood. Since middle school I've known whte neighbors wth adopted black sons and daughters. On "An adoption story" one episode featured a ww/bm couple who adopted a black boy. Heck one couple we met on a train had one biological (biracial) child and too adopted (black) babies.
And should I mention that the rest are going to parents in Canada and germany? :
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2004/08/canadians_look.php
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1027/p11s01-lifp.htm
Everyone goes on and on about white women wanting to birth black babies, yet no one has an opinion on this?
Not only are we failing to give birth to our own but apparently we are not adopting them either. I don't condemn them for doing what they are doing, but they are only doing what WE should be. We don't care for our children, someone else will come in our place.
The one thing I disagree with Kola is on the "Birthing a new black man " thing. We can birth him, but we can also adopt the ones already born and mold them into what we need. There is a alot of black boys and girls in the foster system that need parents and we need a future.
Think about it, Kola. Where the fuck would you be now were you never adopted?!"Birthing" is not our only option right now.
The Black race will be wiped out if everyone adopts. These adopted children can always procreate too, you know. Adoption gives children a chance they never would have had through the foster system...or a misled white family. HAS EVERYONE FORGOTTEN?!
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Yvettep
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 1075
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 08:57 am: |
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Roxie, I hear you on the call for more African American families adopting. I hear you and agree to a great extent. However, what many of these "adoption stories" do not mention is the context of the child welfare system in this country that disproportionately terminates the parental rights of Black and Brown folks.
Dorothy Roberts has written extensively about this issue, and I highly recommend her work if you're interested in reading more about it.
There are some bright spots, as more state child welfare systems experiment with providing financial and programatic support for kinship care (esp including grandparents as caregivers) and open adoption arrangements for children placed in foster care. This is more in line with our communities' long standing practices of informal adoption and similar temporary non-parental care.
I also want to point out that many older, single Black women are finding lots of happiness creating kinship systems with children they adopt. If there is a "One Church, One Child" program near you, contact them to see how you might help. Also see this website:
http://www.africanamericanadoptionsonline.com/ |
Chrishayden
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2360
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 12:32 pm: |
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You act as though there are all these black families living the life of Reilly and are too damn selfish to adopt these kids.
Why do you think so many of them are in foster care in the first place?
How about Michael Jackson--think he should adopt some? How about Mike Tyson?
Then you'll be screaming about how they are being abused by the foster parents.
Negroes are never satisfied. White folks are adopting them because their parents can't take care of them and neither can anybody else--it is fairly easy for a family member to come in and adopt these kids or take them even before they get in the system but guess what? They either got issues or too many kids, too.
Face it--at least these kids can be with some kind of family.
One problem is that for black people the economy is so lousy they can't take care of any kids but, unfortunately they keep having them. But nobody is going to do anything about that are they? |
Femrenoir
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Username: Femrenoir
Post Number: 70
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 06:58 pm: |
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As long as we're letting our black babies be thrown around like garbage, a perfect castle for our 2.2 children is not going to lift us up as a people. Our 2.2 children walk out of that castle and into a world of chaos and disdain for the behavior of the lost and abandoned.
It is good to hear the programs are supporting the grandparents, because they're often in the breach. |
Roxie
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Username: Roxie
Post Number: 850
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 08:21 pm: |
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Chris---There's a difference between stocking up on foster kids for monetary gain and bringing up another's child as your own. Don't respond if you're not gonna read my post all the way through, okay?
Anyway.....
Yvette---Thanks for that info, I know a couple down the street from me that could use it! |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2366
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 10:59 am: |
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Roxie:
I don't know what you are talking about. You come on here with your usual self loathing blame it on the blacks spiel this time because white people are adopting black kids (I guess next it will be for flying saucers)without even thinking about it.
How many kids have you adopted? How many are you going to adopt? That's all you can do--if that.
When are you going to look to your own house and stop trying to order black folks what to do, something you are imminently unqualified for? |
Roxie
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Username: Roxie
Post Number: 853
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 02:18 pm: |
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*yawn* They are only suggestions. Only pompous, insecure people like you interpret them as orders. |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 274
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 03:16 pm: |
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"Negroes are never satisfied. White folks are adopting them because their parents can't take care of them and neither can anybody else--it is fairly easy for a family member to come in and adopt these kids or take them even before they get in the system but guess what? They either got issues or too many kids, too.
Face it--at least these kids can be with some kind of family."
Your point is very well taken. And painfully true.
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Roxie
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Username: Roxie
Post Number: 855
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 06:44 pm: |
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Oh, why don't you two get a room? 9_9 |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4722
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 01:22 pm: |
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Chrishayden can't stand it when anyone other than him tells blacks what they need do. He is telling you what to do, Roxie, by telling you that you shouldn't tell other blacks what to do. It's his way, or no way. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 507
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 05:19 pm: |
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This an interesting topic. I was on Santa Monica Beach the other day and saw this young white couple with 3 black daughters. What a shame!! Why can't we adopt our own?
It is the latest craze out here. In the 80's it was Asian babies, for the Nevou Riche now it is black children. That what makes all of these Hollywood types so fucking phony. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 293
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 09:40 pm: |
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"It is the latest craze out here. In the 80's it was Asian babies, for the Nevou Riche now it is black children. That what makes all of these Hollywood types so fucking phony."
Yawn...yeah....whatever..... |
Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2372
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 10:42 am: |
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Roxie:
Internet talk. You feel like you are a swell person because you bring this up. Well I'm going to tell you what I am going to do--help those blacks I know with kids so they can keep 'em.
I ain't adopting nobody cuz I don't want those motherfuckers either just like everybody else and with that mindset they are better off in foster care than with me--at least I am willing to tell the truth about it.
Face it. What is happening with all these black kids in foster care is what is SUPPOSED to be happening--but nobody wants to do anything about the state of affairs that is responsible for it so my guess is they like it just fine.
Cynique:
You damn right! About time you learned it! Now get down and kiss my toes like daddy likes it--and I belive I asked you for your birthdate in August.
Wherezzit at? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4729
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 10:49 am: |
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I don't take orders from you, chrishayden. Will this ever sink in with you? If I had felt the need to comply with you request, I would have.
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Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 1078
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 09:21 pm: |
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Yvette---Thanks for that info
You're quite welcome, Roxie.
There are many, many myths about adoption. I do not by any means claim to be an expert on the subject. But since I have been involved in adoption research (6+ years now) I have become much more aware of just which things I believed about adoption are supported by evidence and which things are not.
For instance, statistically the percentage of Black children being raised by White adoptive parents unrelated genetically or as step parents to them is pretty small and has always been pretty small. These adoptions, though, are pretty "obvious" and attention-getting because of the visible racial differences.
As an illustration, compare the number of Black children being raised by White parents (as compared to those being raised by biological parents) to the situation of Asian children. The last census figures show something like twice as many Asian children living with adoptive parents as heads of households than with non-adoptive heads of household.
Black children are NOWHERE near such a figure.
Chris, I applaud your efforts to help folks with their youngins. However, I do wish you wouldn't characterize Black children in foster care as "motherf***ers" who no one wants. They are simply children--many who are in the system through no fault of their own.
I'll say again, for anyone interested it is worth reading up on the history and current state of the US foster care system. Then ask yourself questions like: Why is the first response to abuse/neglect by White parents so often treatment, support, and reunification when the first response when the parents are Black is so often termination of parental rights?
The bottom line, as many have said, is that children need homes with loving parents who can give them the support that they need. Adoption is a wonderful option. And there are many ways to support adoption including, but not limited to, becoming an adoptive parent yourself. |
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