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Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 127
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 05:04 pm: | 
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i just came back from a relative's wedding. there were many white young women with black (mixed, but there still black) children. now i understand that mothers love their children and children love their mothers. but does anyone else when they see a white woman with a black child become slightly bothered? its almost as if these white women said to themselves,"if i can't be black, i'll have myself a black child". to me, this is like a white woman's biggest way to become a part of american black culture. when i see white women with black children, they seem so happy. its like they are saying, "i've got one (a beautiful black child), and there's nothing anyone can do or say about it". i don't know if im being clear. but its almost like the ultimate power trip for a white woman. its almost like this is a way for them to become black. raising black children, being with them all the time, being around the father's family. it's a way for them to be in control of a black person. not simply control, but to be a part of our people. maybe other posters can express what im trying (not very well) to say here? of course, im not saying these white women don't love their children. it's almost as if having a black child is their moment of glory. they (white women) seem almost TOO happy to be with a black child. something about it just seems strange. like there's an alterior motive for them to have a black child. i also feel that these black children are being denied something, by never being given the chance to be an an enviorment with black women. anyone have any thoughts about this? |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 05:06 pm: |
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Lil_ze,
I don't know if you know it or not, but you in your own way are asserting a concern and sentiment that Kola has for years now. |
Abm
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Post Number: 4803
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 05:11 pm: |
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Lil_ze,
It really is a fairly potent tool for some White women to use to ingratiate themselves into Black life and culture. Because most Black foks, to varying degrees, feel obligate to include Black children - multiracials included - within their families and communities. And you really CAN'T include a kid without his/her mother.
Then the issues of the child's lightskin, good hur, disapproving White grandparents/kin, etc. get interjected into the issue and, well...as we see, things often get MESSY. |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 714
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 05:31 pm: |
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The ulterior motive of white women to bear Black men's offsprings is to entrap the Black man. Nothing else. |
Moonsigns
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Post Number: 1210
Registered: 07-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:28 pm: |
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Lil_ze:
"if i can't be black, i'll have myself a black child."
Moonsigns:
White women who have biracial do not want to be black. They simply want to be mothers--it's a natural, human, female inclination--and their children just happen to be biracial. To assert otherwise is suggesting they are less than human.
Lil_ze:
"to me, this is like a white woman's biggest way to become a part of american black culture."
Moonsigns:
As a white woman who not only is married interacially, but interacts with other white women who are also intermarried, I happen to disagree. While I have always been comfortable around black people, many, many white women aren't. Most white women I know or happen to interact with in a social situation have met their significant other at college and, initially, connected on an intellectual level. The relationships progressed, however, in many cases, the female was quite taken aback when meeting his immediate and extended family -- and vice versa. If the connection between the couple is strong, obviously, they learn and grow as a couple/family. However, some people cannot get over the cultural differences. Which, to some degree, is understandable. Therefore, I, again, have to disagree with you.
Lil_ze:
"when i see white women with black children, they usually seem so happy. it's like they are saying, "i've got a beautiful one (a beautiful black child), and there's nothing anyone can say or do about it."
Moonsigns:
They are proably happy because they love their children--just like any other healthy mother. And I think that the "beauty" thing is hard. Because, regardless of color, unattractive is unattractive, and beautiful is beautiful. And I think you're making it a white/black thing when it's really about unattractive/beautiful thing. While I'm not condoning it, women are harsh when it comes to judging the appearance of their female peers, even little girls. Mothers judge other mothers children. Again, not right, but I've found it to be common. And though I'm NOT suggesting you're unattractive, it's quite easy for an unattractive individual, or even fairly decent looking individual, to become intimidated by the presence of an attractive peer. It's human nature. And then there are women who know their children are beautiful, yet they don't "show" it off--nor desire to, but will be judged by those who are less attractive as being they way you mentioned above. It's all about perception. In some cases, you're right. In some cases, you're wrong.
Lil_ze:
"it's almost like this is a way for them to become black."
Moonsigns:
Just like many black people don't want to be white, many white people don't want to be black.
Lil_ze:
"it's almost as if having a black child is their moment of glory."
Moonsigns:
WTF?!
Lil_ze:
"i also feel that these black children are being denied something, by never being given the chance to be in an environment with black women."
Moonsigns:
Being exposed to two cultures gives a biracial child a much different experience than a black child who is raised by two black parents. The socialization is different. And, in general, though I believe that biracial children experience varying degrees of racism, having a different socialization than a black child with two black parents, in fact, gives them a different perspective. Though my husband's family is very warm, and my children interact with them constantly (extended family, too), there are black families who don't embrace biracial relatives. Often times, there is underlying hostility towards the mate that intermarried (usually a man), thus creating a resentment for the offspring--and the children are totally innocent. I think this notion of most black women embracing biracial children is romanticized.
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Lil_ze
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Post Number: 128
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:45 pm: |
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moonsigns, the off-spring of black men and white women are black. this whole idea of bi-racial children to me is only a way to divide black people. the children are without question black. noone looks at a child and says, "oh, look at that bi-racial child". people look at the child and see a black child. if you are a white woman who is married to a black man, then of course you will try to rationalize the motivations behind your desire for black people. when i see a white woman with a black man, my first thought is usually, "its interesting that this white woman has chosen a man who looks nothing like her father, nothing loke her grandfather, uncles, cousins, etc. this is a form of self-hate to me. moonsigns, you never wanted to have white children? children that look like all of your other family members? probably not, because deep down you know black people are who you want to be. this is why you did everything you could to become a part of our people. i really don't care to hear from a self-hating white woman like you. all your rhetoric means very little. the children are black. white women need to be around black children. |
Ngo
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:54 pm: |
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Moonsigns:
Being exposed to two cultures gives a biracial child a much different experience than a black child who is raised by two black parents. The socialization is different. And, in general, though I believe that biracial children experience varying degrees of racism, having a different socialization than a black child with two black parents, in fact, gives them a different perspective. Though my husband's family is very warm, and my children interact with them constantly (extended family, too), there are black families who don't embrace biracial relatives. Often times, there is underlying hostility towards the mate that intermarried (usually a man), thus creating a resentment for the offspring--and the children are totally innocent. I think this notion of most black women embracing biracial children is romanticized.
It's interesting how you subtely convey your "race-mixing" propaganda in this paragraph. You cleverly contrast a biracial child vs a black child. You don't contrast a white child with two white parents - as if to say to blacks "you better mix because a biracial child is an improvement." You, your husband, and any "biracial" children you have bore should be shot. |
Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 129
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:17 pm: |
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moonsigns:
white women who have "bi-racial" (black) children, don't want to be black. they simply want to be mothers.
lil ze: notice that these white women who simply wanted children couldn't find a WHITE man to have children with.
moonsigns, you having a BLACK child is a moment of glory for you, because despite the rationalization, you made every effort to get with a black man and have black children. its a moment of glory for you because now you are living your dream. the dream for these white women is to get as close to our people as they can. the white woman will always say, "oh,me and my mate connected on an "intellectual" level". or, "oh we just fell in love". but the truth is these white women could have easily given a WHITE man a chance. yeah, i know there were NO white men around when you just happened to get with your black prince. moonsigns, stated "as a white woman who interacts with other white women who are interraciall married". of course, you interact with other women whos' goal in life was to get as close to our people as they could. im sure you all get together and bask in the glory you feel for having black children and black husbands. moonsigns, also stated "being exposed to two cultures gives a "biracial" (black) child a much different experience than a "black" child who is raised by two black parents". this statment says a lot. you don't look at your child as being black, you look at them as being "bi-racial". this is almost like living in fantasy land. understand that NOWHERE that the off-spring of black men and white women go, are they seem as "biracial". they are viewed, seen, and considered black. without question the child of an black and white relationship will have the BLACK experience. they will grow up with an experience NO different than a child with two black parents. maybe the only diffence is that the child has some white woman telling them they are not black, but "biracial". moonsigns it does not surprise me you said that you have always been comfortable around black people. of course you have. you want to be a part of us so badly, you had to make yourself comfortable. how else could a white woman convice a black man to impregnate them, unless she was comfortale in "our" world. anytime you see a white woman with black children, you can be sure this is a white woman with serious issues invoving her father. what a slap in the face to a white father, to have his daughter marry a man that looks nothing like him. these white women all made a choice to become impregnated by a black man. of course these white women will look for any exuse to justify this life they life. but black people can see right through this.
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Lil_ze
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Post Number: 130
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:19 pm: |
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ngo, you see through the lies of the white woman too! |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:45 pm: |
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If what you are saying is correct, then she and her husband are perfect for each other--leave her alone! |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 133
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:49 pm: |
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tonya, you were the woman who referred to black men as "an historical failure". nothing you say has ANY merit. this post was not to personally attack anyone. but moonsigns, decided to come with her spin on things, and she is being responded to. |
Moonsigns
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:58 pm: |
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Lil_ze,
In actuality, the off-spring of black men and white women are not black but biracial. And everything--their culture, hair, skin, and life perspective is a reflection of that intermarriage. Your mind-set is nothing but the result of social conditioning of this perverted world. And I believe it's healthy to teach biracial children the ways of the world, but it doesn't mean the ways of the world are right--or beneficial for humanity. And it doesn't mean that being black is bad, being biracial is better and being white is the best. It means that biracial children should be taught how to survive in a world that makes them want to choose--when they don't and shouldn't have to. It means they can love and embrace both cultures without apologizing to anyone.
If you choose not too marry men who don't "look" like your father and the rest of your male, family members, that's your business. I was raised differently. It's a form of "self-hate" to you and a very divine and human relationship to me. Color, culture, and/or faith can either be a road block or an open highway. It's all about perspective. You are free to judge my motivations. That is your right. But you'd be a fool to think you always know the hearts and minds of other people, especially those you don't know on a personal level.
p.s. I'm not comfortable around black people because I want to be black. I'm comfortable around black people, because my parents were smart enough to raise me to appreciate and respect the culture and color of those who are different than me, yet share the common bond of having human needs and aspirations. But that whole concept to you is foreign, I know. And about my father--he was a remarkable man and a remarkable father--and respected my husband as a man.
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Moonsigns
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Post Number: 1212
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 08:02 pm: |
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Ngo,
I didn't write that a biracial childs perspective is better. It's just different. And, naturally, I don't contrast a (white) child's perspective who has two white parents, because biracial children look more brown (generally), not more white.
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 719
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:28 pm: |
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Ms. MoonSigns - My comment was a generalization. It wasn't directed towards you personally. Okay. |
Ngo
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Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:53 pm: |
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moonbitch says: "And, naturally, I don't contrast a (white) child's perspective who has two white parents, because biracial children look more brown (generally), not more white."
Ngo says:
Of all the msg boards on the internet, you, you honestly chose this msg board to try to "slip one by me"? Surely you don't see me as THAT naive. In one breadth you proclaim your kid as not Black but biracial since he is half white and half black - yet in another breadth you casually dismiss any importance of contrasting a Biracial child to his white side. You brazenly imply that a biracial child is in fact "better" socially and culturally than a plain ol' Black child. Then, interestingly, you vagualy describe biracial children (black/white) as only looking "more brown." That's impossible - only more brown than what? A biracial has a skin color inbetween a Black and a white person i.e. it is "more black/brown" than the white AND "more white/peach" than the Black - it's not a one way street. Not surprisingly, it's as if you see your kid as a "tanned white" - the black genes only being add-ons.
This is all fine and dandy for you. But your type of thinking - this EXACT type of thinking is what Ms. Boof talks against. You know what, why even continue to bullshit me? Why? It's pointless. You're not even shrewd. Accordingly, your husband is self-hating - niggerstock - and you are a Cunt - and you know this. You're a snooty, self-righteous to a fault, eurocunt. |
Prettybabygirl
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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Ouh.
Goddamn.
When Kola coming back, this is getting good!
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Shemika
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I think white women are into black men primarily because they love the way blacks put them on a pedestal. To a white man and his family they would just be ordinary, but a lot of silly black folks view them as a status symbol and are proud to be seen around with them and borderline looking bi-racial children. Both the bm and the ww have issues, hers is her egotistical desire to recreate a modern day version of the plantation scene by having a black man running to her aid to replace all the wm who are homosexuals, are opting to marry Asians, or have higher standards for ww then bm do.
Ngo is right on about moonsigns motive about biracial children being seen as dark skin whites. That's exactly what their intent is. To bread out the blackness and create a new race, but unfortunately both sides want it. White women take pleasure in the power they feel in snatching the black woman's man up as her own and having him put her ahead of his own female/people. -Another white power trip.
And depending on the child’s makeup many bi-racials have a physical likeness to Hispanics or Indians. I've met plenty of them that fit that bill and played a part in concealing the fact they had a black parent. With the input and training of a white woman many bi-racials have no real allegiance to their black ancestry. And it’s not as if their black parent was likely that proud of it either.
And Lil_ze, do you think people see a black woman when they look a Mariah Carry? If she had not disclosed the fact her father was black already I seriously doubt it. I know I don't see one. And if she had children by her white or Spanish lovers do you believe people would see black children when they look at them? That is what blacks are coming to in reality, they are dissolving their blackness, and to think otherwise is to delude your self.
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Abm
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 03:11 am: |
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It is unfair to characterize ALL interracial relationships as being primarily the result of some dubious forms of self-hate amongst Black men and manipulation and self-aggrandizement amongst White women. Because it's just not possible to know the heart & spirit of EVERY person who's engage in such couplings.
But given the potent histories and socializations of BM and WW, there likely is some elements of the above amongst many - if not MOST - such relationships.
I doubt the issues and dilemmas of the Black-White biracial child will ever be fully reconciled UNTIL there is some balance of social, economic and political power amongst Blacks and Whites. |
Fortified
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 03:43 am: |
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What about the bi-racial children of black women and white men? What are your theories on that one? |
Kola_boof
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ABM:
I doubt the issues and dilemmas of the Black-White biracial child will ever be fully reconciled UNTIL there is some balance of social, economic and political power amongst Blacks and Whites.
KOLA:
Balance?
The whole purpose of the bi-racial child is to help destroy and eliminate Blacks period.
Otherwise, as in any other society, there'd only be a few.
And they would not be presented on t.v./mag. advert. as the "norm" (neutral)--while black children are presented as "invisible".
You see---the ANSWER to "racism"---is to get rid of the Black people. Always has been.
First breed lighter...then breed biracial.
Then go to TIGER WOODS level, marry true blonde and BREED OUT.
There is to be NO balance of social, economic and political power amongst blacks and whites, ABM.
The "Black Man's Mother"--say Sheryl Lee Ralph--is systematically "DISALLOWED", thereby causing the eventual ERASURE of all black people.
MOST Black males in ALL "white dominated" societies encourage and influence (BET) younger black males to adapt and carry out this "CLEANSING" in exchange for acceptance and STATUS.
It all started after Slavery ended and the popular saying amongst coal black men was---"I don't haul no coal."
When was the last time you read Wallace Thurman's 1929 classic "The Blacker the Berry"?
He foretold ALL OF THIS. Because it was the same exact deal....in 1929.
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Kola_boof
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 03:56 am: |
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Ngo,
EVERYTHING you said about MOONSIGNS is true.
That's exactly who she is--though I do like her.
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Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 05:41 am: |
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Kola,
Perhaps unlike you, I don't pretend to know what percentage of miscegenation SHOULD exist within a community and society. I think, however, that even YOU have suggested that some race mixing can be a good thing.
My point is IF there were some genuine power equity between Blacks and Whites, then there would be much less cause for all the handwringing regarding what racial identity and allegiances a multiracial person must adopt, regardless of the number or percentage of race mixing.
But, for the record, I do NOT believe ANY & EVERY Black-White child is the living embodiment of the destruction of Black people. |
Grind
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:08 am: |
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The whole purpose of the bi-racial child is to help destroy and eliminate Blacks period.
Otherwise, as in any other society, there'd only be a few.
Huh? What society has lots of people of different races living together and only has a "few" biracials?
Hell, 1/4-1/3 of all the people on the planet are "biracial." Racemixing need involve no conspiracies. In fact, history has proven that it requires considerable effort to prevent it from happening.
It all started after Slavery ended and the popular saying amongst coal black men was---"I don't haul no coal."
Any sources you can point me to that reference this "popular" saying?
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Grind
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:18 am: |
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What about the bi-racial children of black women and white men?
If you haven't noticed, black woman/non-black male relationships and their offspring go totally unscrutinized on this board. |
Grind
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"If you haven't noticed, black woman/non-black male relationships and their offspring go totally unscrutinized on this board."
Although the relative scarcity of such relationships is often lamented by many of the "Down Soul Sistas" here.
Creepy. |
Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:19 am: |
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Fortified: "What about the bi-racial children of black women and white men?"
Grind: "If you haven't noticed, black woman/non-black male relationships and their offspring go totally unscrutinized on this board."
There is a prevailing double-standard. That double-standard is NOT unique to this website.
And it's that duplicity, along with other things, which taint and compromise what might otherwise be some fairly valid arguments. |
Lil_ze
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the children of white men and black women are members of the white race. no matter how dark they are, these children of white men and black women have the same mind and soul of the white man. the black woman who lays down with the white man is a black woman full of diseases. these children can NEVER have the power that we possess as a people, because they descend not from our forefathers, but from white men. the children of black men and white women ARE our people, because they descend from black men, and possess the special nature that our people have. it doesn't matter how light they are (mariah carey) if they can trace their roots (father, grand-father) to black men, they are numbered with our people and are a part of us. on the other hand the children of white men and black women (lenny kravitz, faith evans, bob marley) are ALL part of the white race. even if the white race does not view them in this way, the spirit that dwells in them is the spirit of the white man. bob marley's son ziggy marley, has brown skin, but he is a descendent of a white man. ALL of bob marley's children are descendents of white men. no matter how black (dark) they look. if mariah carey had children by a white man they are part of the white race. we carry our father and grandfather and greatgrandfathers last names, because we descend from our FATHERS. the woman carrys the child but the father is the one who plants the seed (sperm). if your father is a black man, you are a part of our people, no matter how light you maybe. if your father is a white man or your grandfather (on your fathers side) is a white man, you are a member of the white race, no matter how dark your skin is. there is no double standard. the discussion on this thread was dealing with these children (black fathers and white mothers) who are a part of us. the children of white men and black women (i have a few in my family, who i do love), i don't look at in the same way, because they descend from white men, and are lacking the special nature we possess. to be honest, i couldn't care less about the children of white men and black women, because they are NOT a part of our nation. the children of black men with white, asian, east indian women are a part of us. we need to protect them. |
Tonya
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 01:17 pm: |
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"What about the bi-racial children of black women and white men?"
Kola has said many times, it's the mother who passes on culture; therefore if the mother is black, the child is more likely to identify with black culture. But if the mother is white, he/she will most likely embrace Moonsigns perspective.
Grind:
"If you haven't noticed, black woman/non-black male relationships and their offspring go totally unscrutinized on this board."
"Although the relative scarcity of such relationships is often lamented by many of the "Down Soul Sistas" here."
I see you are one of those Brothas that only hear what suits his nationalist way of thinking - disappointing.
Kola:
You see---the ANSWER to "racism"---is to get rid of the Black people. Always has been.
First breed lighter...then breed biracial.
Then go to TIGER WOODS level, marry true blonde and BREED OUT.
There is to be NO balance of social, economic and political power amongst blacks and whites, ABM.
The "Black Man's Mother"--say Sheryl Lee Ralph--is systematically "DISALLOWED", thereby causing the eventual ERASURE of all black people.
MOST Black males in ALL "white dominated" societies encourage and influence (BET) younger black males to adapt and carry out this "CLEANSING" in exchange for acceptance and STATUS.
It all started after Slavery ended and the popular saying amongst coal black men was---"I don't haul no coal."
When was the last time you read Wallace Thurman's 1929 classic "The Blacker the Berry"?
He foretold ALL OF THIS. Because it was the same exact deal....in 1929.
You ought to be teaching Sistah. That's your calling. 
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Yukio
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 02:01 pm: |
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Tonya:
So is this last post representative of what you and Kola believe about Beyonce, Halle, and others?
That is, they were bred as an answer to racism? |
Shemika
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Lil_ze that is the most foolish thing I've ever heard. You must have picked that up from a black man who's into white women or because you're rationalizing the fact your son is into them. -Because it's absolute nonsense. There is no spirit that makes someone “black” or “white”. People either have a visible manifestation of African lineage or they don't. The idea of being black or white was socially constructed by Europeans; in reality it has no meaning except as defined by them – which constantly changes to suit their agenda. What makes someone a true member of the "black" race is their physical identification and mental connection with it, and a meaningful psychological connection is achieved by exposure and training from an early age -which the mother (or primary caretaker) plays a primary role. So really, there's no logic to your conclusion. I believe you said you were Christian. And from what I recall reading, Jesus (born to a virgin) is supposed to be a Jew because his mother is a Jew.
You know, your analogy reminds me of that new group of bm who are going around claiming god told them to pass their spiritual strength to each other by practicing anal sex/sodomy.
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Tonya
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I can't speak for Kola on this one, Yukio. But for me, you are obscuring my stance on colorism in the media, by putting it in an improper context. Kola's post was more so about common people. Beyonce and Halle, for me, and, without speaking for her, perhaps Kola as well, are powerful IMAGES that are used to help encourage breeding out. One can use them as examples of people that were bred as an answer to racism - no doubt. But I've never used them in that context. |
Lil_ze
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well shemika, we are all allowed our point of view on an issue. its not europeans who constructed the idea of nationality (being black, white, asian, arab etc), it was nature that divided the nations of the earth. it does not matter if the mother is black and the child identifies with her and being "black". the child is a member of the white race. what makes someone a member of our nation is not "physical identification" or "mental connection" with our people. it is solely and purely based on BLOOD. the lightest of the light who wants no connection with our people, if their father and forefathers are black men, they possess a righteous nature. our people have a unique special nature that can only be possesed by having the blood of our forefathers. any child of a white man, has the nature of the white man and the attributes of the white race. any "pschological connection" the child of a white man and a black woman, feels about being "black", does not change the fact that they are children of white men. i don't care how black they are. CHRIST, was of the seed of david (yes born of a virgin), but of the lineage of the men of israel (read matthew ch.1) according to the torah law (despite what the modern day jew says), the babies nationality is based on the father, NOT the mother. there are many people on earth who are a part of our people, but look like other nations. skin color or physical identification mean nothing. no matter what your color is or who you identify with, if your father is black you are a part of us. if your father is white you can NEVER be numbered or a part of our people. no matter how black you are, or how you "feel" about identification with our people.
shemika, just because a group of black perverts goes around "claiming" that "god" told them to have anal sex with one another, i don't see what that has to do with ANYTHING ive said. im speaking about nationality determined by your forefathers. im speaking about male/female relations. these black perverts (faggots) you mention are not included in this disscussion. |
Prettybabygirl
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Tonya, Yukio always tries his best to undermine this topic, because he fears something bad being revealed about black men--because he's one.
In this way, he supports it. I recall in Kola's book how she talked about "silence equals consent". That's basically what Yukio does.
On some things he's for equality, but on this issue, because it hits way too close to home, he is like a white person. He makes every excuse to pretend it's not really happening, it's overblown, it's not that important. He would put the egos and reputations of "The Black Man" in front of the black family, black children, black community, yet he claims to be Pro-Black.
To be fair, I see most brothers doing what Yukio does, but he's not nearly as bad as the majority are.
But I now see why Kola insists that most "Black Americans"--secretly hate "black people" without even knowing or realizing it. They will go to any lengths to proclaim Beyonce a black woman while at the same time working overtime to get rid of the "obviously" black women. Which in turn, like Kola says, erases black children and black people until all we have are dudes who look like John Legend and Bob Marley. Then they upgrade to being Lenny Kravitz and Vin Diesel. It's genocide. I do see what Kola's saying,and the more I see what she's saying, the more shocked I am that guys I thought were really brilliant like Yukio--aren't very smart at all.
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Prettybabygirl
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Lil_ze is a complete idiot.
European nations are called "The Fatherland". Africa is called "The Motherland".
I notice that biracial kids from black mothers are way more black than the ones with white mothers.
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Abm
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Ladies,
You will never be able to convict most Black men that it is more okay for you to bone and make Babies with White men than it is for brothas to do likewise with White women.
NEVEREVEREVER... |
Fortified
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According to lil_ze, Bob Marley and Malcolm X (whose maternal grandfather was white) have the "soul of white men". ROFLMMFBAO!!!!!!! |
Tonya
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"...the black woman who lays down with the white man is a black woman full of diseases."
"...these children can NEVER have the *power* that we *possess* as a people..."
. . . .
"...the *spirit that dwells in them* is the *spirit of the white man....*"
. . . .
...the children of black men and white women ARE our people, because they descend from black men, and (((((possess *the special nature* that our people have.))))
. . . .
"...they descend from white men, and are lacking the special nature we possess...."
WHO IS THIS NUT?? |
Moonsigns
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Mzuri:
"Ms. MoonSigns. My comment was a generalization. It wasn't directed to you personally. Okay."
Moonsigns:
I didn't take it personally. |
Tonya
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ABM:
Ladies,
You will never be able to convict most Black men that it is more okay for you to bone and make Babies with White men than it is for brothas to do likewise with White women.
NEVEREVEREVER...
Tonya:
Oh, ABM, come on now. We don't need his permission no more!?!?
Besides, weez about ta give birth to a new son.
He better off stressin’ on that! |
Abm
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Tonya,
WHO shall sire this "new son"?
The Holy Trinity? |
Tonya
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You can call him "The Holy Trinity" if you're so inclined--I just call him a white man.... But NO...it's he who upholds blackness.
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Abm
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Tonya,
Good luck with assigning White men that most noble task of fathering the saviors of Black humanity and culture. |
Prettybabygirl
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Tonya:
Oh, ABM, come on now. We don't need his permission no more!?!?
Besides, weez about ta give birth to a new son.
He better off stressin’ on that!
OK |
Prettybabygirl
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Good luck with assigning White men that most noble task of fathering the saviors of Black humanity and culture.
They're probably more likely to do it than Black men.
Look at how slavery finally came to an end.
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Prettybabygirl
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I know.
Low blow.
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Tonya
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ABM???:
"Good luck with assigning White men that most noble task of fathering the saviors of Black humanity and culture."
What happened? Did you misread me?
I said it's he who upholds blackness--it is he who shall be the sire. I don't remember ascribing race or color?? I appreciate the goodwill gesture though.
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Lil_ze
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fortified, bob marley has (had) the soul of the so-called white man, as do ALL of his children. malcolm x's MATERNAL grandfather was a so-called white man. malcolm x's father and his grandfather are the sons of a black man. malcolm x had the soul, virtue, and spirit of our people.
once again, its the PATERNAL lineage that determines the nationality of the child. fortified if you are going to try and quote me or use my words in order to prove your point, at least TRY and understand what I have said. the art of learning is listening (in this case reading). the words you wrote in the above post were only half correct. malcolm x was our brother. lenny kravitz, faith evans, bob marley all children of the white man. |
Tonya
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"Look at how slavery finally came to an end."
OUCH!
But understood. |
Lil_ze
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tonya:
"......the historical failure known as black men (tonya's words.......")
WHO IS THIS INSANE BLACK WOMAN?? |
Lil_ze
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prettybabygirl, you are an amazingly stupid whore. you lack the ability to think for yourself. you make it easy to understand why our men have relationships with women of other nations. who the hell would want to put up with a bitter, angry, evil, hostile creature like you? you clearly have issues that you NEED to deal with. maybe a bit of time away from your computer (your substitute for a man) might help you. what a pathetic, lonely woman you are. just plain sad. |
Abm
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PBG: "Good luck with assigning White men that most noble task of fathering the saviors of Black humanity and culture...They're probably more likely to do it than Black men."
Yeah. That is kinda of a lowblow. But, hey. I'm a Black man. It's not like I'm unaccustomed to taking a few in the groin from sistahs.
That THERE is sorta how yawl play.
Tonya: "I said it's he who upholds blackness--it is he who shall be the sire. I don't remember ascribing race or color?? I appreciate the goodwill gesture though."
Sorry. I don't really follow this. But, again, Good Luck with that Great White Man Kneegrow Reclamation Project.
Though you'll pardon my hoping that I'm long since dead before your work is done. |
Fortified
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lil_ze said:
fortified, bob marley has (had) the soul of the so-called white man, as do ALL of his children. malcolm x's MATERNAL grandfather was a so-called white man. malcolm x's father and his grandfather are the sons of a black man. malcolm x had the soul, virtue, and spirit of our people.
once again, its the PATERNAL lineage that determines the nationality of the child. fortified if you are going to try and quote me or use my words in order to prove your point, at least TRY and understand what I have said. the art of learning is listening (in this case reading). the words you wrote in the above post were only half correct. malcolm x was our brother. lenny kravitz, faith evans, bob marley all children of the white man.
Whether I have quoted or misquoted you in your mind, I still think that what you wrote was a 1000-degree Celsius, steaming, molten pile of shit. |
Moonsigns
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Lil_ze:
"notice these white women who simply wanted children couldn't find a WHITE man to have children with."
Moonsigns:
Lil_ze, just as I married a man who happens to be black, I could have, if I chose to, married a man who happens to be white. And making the assertion that two people of two different colors cannot, because of their difference, feel and share a human emotion is, in essence, suggesting that in every other area of life people of different backrounds cannot connect, either. I happen to disagree because the mere and absurd notion of such would suggest that we as a human race are hopeless. And I absolutely disagree with that type of negative mentality.
Lil_ze:
"i know there were NO white men that happened to be around when you got with your black prince."
Moonsigns:
Again, I'm not bound by your hopeless and negative implication that love is not a human emotion.
Lil_ze:
"of course, you interact with other women whos' goal in life was to get as close to our people as they could."
Moonsigns:
Naturally, I'm going to interact with women and families who share this common bond. But interracial families are no different than any other social and cultural group in the world. You're just trying to dissect and dehumanize such couplings because you don't like "them". Nothing more, nothing less. And oddly enough, the very same thing you accuse me is something you're guilty of yourself. However, the difference between us is, I choose not to be limited or bound to those who are only within my social and cultural group. Because, again, the world and it's many "groups" have things I can learn from--and I comprehend and accept that fact.
Lil_ze:
"moonsigns, also stated that "being exposed to two cultures also give a biracial (black) child a much different experience than a "black" child whos is raised by two black parents."
Moonsigns:
One must be slightly "slow" to not comprehend the very obvious difference in socialization between a biracial child and a black child. And again, it's not an issue of one being "good" or "bad". It is simply different and naturally so.
Lil_ze:
"understand that NOWHERE are the off-spring of black men and white women go, are they seem as "biracial". they are viewed, seen, and considered BLACK. without question the child of a black and white relationship will have the BLACK experience."
Moonsigns:
That's debatable, because there are too many biracials who would disagree.
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Moonsigns
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"I've been kicking around the idea of being on both sides of the gun since I was a kid, as far as feeling like that because of coming from a black-and-white upbringing," he explains. "The culture demands that you choose one or the other, and I've never been the least bit comfortable with that. So there's a lot that goes into that phrase, for me. It's the most significant cultural statement I think I could ever make.
With that in mind, Harper's new release can be seen as an attempt to bring both sides of his being--and both sides of his country--together. Yes, the electric horsewhipping of "Black Rain"--a bitter condemnation of Washington's racist and inadequate response to Hurrican Katrina--is a long way from the gentle sentiments of the acoustic disc's "Morning Yearning". But both spring from the same urgent need for a new American revolution.
"Somehow, those songs are interconnected," he asserts. "You know, waking up in the morning and hoping for a better day is connected to the necessity of writing a song like "Black Rain". And getting in the street and demanding a better administration than the one we have know, that starts with the yearning in the morning. So it makes sense that they're both part of the same body of work."
A body of work, by the way, that increasingly looks like a potent force of good. "Anything that contributes to the uplifting of the collective consciousness of your culture and peer group is change," says this self-described musical revolutionary. "And if that translates onto a mass scale and/or a movement, we're onto something."
*An excerpt from a Canadian interview with Ben Harper, a musician who was born and raised in Claremont, California.*
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Shemika
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Lil_ze:
“its not europeans who constructed the idea of nationality (being black, white, asian, arab etc), it was nature that divided the nations of the earth.”
Shemika:
Unlike Asian and Arab, the terms “black” and “white” are not nationalities. They are labels assigned by European Americans to certain people of African or European ancestry. When Europeans were initially coming over here the term "white", used to symbolize “privileged”, was not even assigned to all of them. I believe it was primarily assigned to WASPs, but Italians, Irish, and Jews weren’t considered “white” until later on when they decided to bring about complete polarization by unifying all European people from those with visible or known African ancestry by using the black and white symbolic label.
Lil_ze:
CHRIST, was of the seed of david (yes born of a virgin), but of the lineage of the men of israel (read matthew ch.1) according to the torah law (despite what the modern day jew says), the babies nationality is based on the father, NOT the mother.
Shemika:
That’s nonsense. Then I suppose all the slave children sired by wm with black female slaves were white slaves according to you. And then on the other hand if a black woman’s father and other males in her lineage are black that lineage is passed on to her child anyway, as in the case of Jesus. Anyway, there are plenty of passages in the bible that command the men not to take wives from other nations. Solomon was warned, as were Sampson, and I think Joseph, and many others. I remember one man sending a servant on a journey to find a wife from among his own people because he lived among those from a different nation. Solomon was warned that the women of other nations would corrupt and influence him adversely. And what about the case of the woman who disobeyed God because she thought she was too old to have children and allowed her husband to sleep with her maid. And the child by the maid was not chosen by God, but God worked a miracle and she got pregnant in her 90s to have godly offspring. And look how Sampson was deceived and destroyed by disobeying God and going after the women from the people of his enemies. That story reminds me the most of the plight of black men destroying our people by being with ww.
Also, I related the men claiming god told them to pass spiritual strength to each other by having anal sex with your view because you are doing the same thing. They also misinterpreted the scripture to justify engaging in anal sex just as you are doing so to legitimize offspring between bm and ww and reject the offspring by bw by wm. I have heard a lot of bm making excuses to do both of these things because it’s in their heart. And this just proves how they will say anything, including grossly misinterpreting scriptures to justify their own selfish ends. These bm under in influence of ww despise bw, they don’t want them and they don’t want anyone else to have them. So this is another way they are trying to exclude bw and honor ww in their place. It is twisted and hateful.
And if you are somehow basing your view of a good nature somehow being passed on by the father upon the Old Jewish law, I thought you were Christian, and Jesus said we are all sinners at heart and are saved by His blood, rather than our own.
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Nels
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Lil_ze --
"its almost as if these white women said to themselves,"if i can't be black, i'll have myself a black child"."
Utter nonsense. |
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according to rick kittles, geneticist and head of african ancestry, 30% of black men who take DNA tests to determine their african lineage discover that they are descending from white males on their father's side. these tests examine DNA markers on the Y chromosome, which passes virtually unchanged from father to son.
in light of this, i'm thinking lil ze might want to rethink the implications of her stance. |
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And it's that duplicity, along with other things, which taint and compromise what might otherwise be some fairly valid arguments.
ABM,
Exactly. Kola actually has some valid insights that could profit blacks, but her inconsistency on this and other issues will make many intelligent blacks rubbish everything she has to say.
Brother, I really didn't want to believe this, but I'm starting to come to the conclusion that many, if not most, of the rabid anti-BM/WF bitties on this board are motivated in large part by a toxic mix of insecurity and petty jealousy. Much of their talk about "brainwashed, self-hating" black men is in fact projection of their own demons.
I mean, WOW, they have REALLY outed themselves in this thread, haven't they? All that cryptic talk about "giving birth to a new son" and "I gots a womb, god damnit," that I was too naive to decode up until now has been given an explicit translation. Allow me to catch my breath.
Now I wonder whether they're animus against white women ever had much to do with black men, per se, or more their painful jealousy over white women having a monopoly on white men. |
Grind
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"I see you are one of those Brothas that only hear what suits his nationalist way of thinking - disappointing."
Tonya,
What am I missing here? PLEASE enlighten me.
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Grind
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They're all obsessed with white men.
Duh.
Kola and Tonya (who has admitted that she wants to be white) for sure, and probably most of the others.
At least with Kola it's understandable, as she claims her father was white. |
Fortified
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I am not obsessed with white men. I just don't get the double standard (that goes either way). If it is "wrong" to procreate outside of your race, it should be "wrong" both ways: it should be wrong for both black men and black women to do it. I have seen BOTH types of bi-racial individuals and neither of them act more or less "black" than the other...
But it has been going on for generations and will continue to go on. But black people still exist. I don't see the bi-racial identity as a "threat" because nothing can stop black people from screwing each other and making children. LOL!!!! |
Grind
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I just don't get the double standard (that goes either way). If it is "wrong" to procreate outside of your race, it should be "wrong" both ways: it should be wrong for both black men and black women to do it.
You and I agree with each other! And disagree with Tonya and many other black women.
I have seen BOTH types of bi-racial individuals and neither of them act more or less "black" than the other...
Once again we agree! And anyway, I don't care much for the idea of counting biracials in our ranks, whether their mothers be black or white.
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Brownbeauty123
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Why do you think they're obsessed with white men? |
Abm
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Grind,
The inconsistency on the why BW can/should mate interracially while BM should not is pure/utter folly.
You'll NEVER get brothas to buy that shyt. And even most fairminded sistas will reject it.
And you're NOT going to created some fully evolved and self-actualize Black man via sperm from a White dyck. That shyt's neither genetically, psychologically or even metaphysically POSSIBLE.
I honestly don't know whether great numbers/percentages of Black women secretly covet White men. But it would be interesting to see how Black women responded to some great influx of attention and affection from Opie. |
Moonsigns
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The apparent "double-standard" undermines every bit of the "authentic" debate. The contradiction of "do what I say and not what I do" seems to reduce this movement to nothing but a hypocritical, self-serving (and potentially, racist) agenda. |
Tonya
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Grind, pull a tread where I said I want to be white. You're not embellishing or taking things out of context; you're flat out lying. How come?
...(*Tossing the head like whaaa??*)
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Tonya,
I'm sorry, you actually said that you wished you were white as a child, but eventually outgrew these feelings.
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/179/11402.html
I still think that's pretty relevant, especially considering your views expressed in this thread. |
Mzuri
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LOL! |
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I don't know how anyone could assume that black women envy white men. A black woman doesn’t want his woman (normally anyway). If anything it's the black men who envy white men. That's why so many marry ww and assume the same hateful attitude toward their own bw as wm and ww have toward all blacks.
He is the one abandoning his role as a bm to assume the one of a wm along side the ww. Also, bm complain if bw date outside the race although they have no intentions of being loyal to bw in the least, another one of the countless double standards they impose solely on bw. -Because ww, of course, can do no wrong in their eyes, and nor can they. Either way, it is natural to expect to be able to find someone to procreate and raise a family with within your own people, because when your own place you at the bottom of their list that's pretty bad.
Another reason bm pursue ww is because in their sick minds their self worth is measured by the acceptance of white people. So they will sell out their own for white approval and actually believe they are showing up the white man by snatching up his surplus women while forsaking the wellbeing of his own people’s future existence in the process. Suckers.
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Goddamn it people! Can anyone here get off the Color Crutch for one moment? |
Brownbeauty123
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She wanted to be white as a kid--not now. |
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Brownbeauty,
As a child, she had a conscious desire to be white, and today, as an adult, she fantasizes about redeeming the black race by bearing a white man's children. If you can't see the connection between the two, the apparent continuity of her feelings of racial inferiority from then until now then I'm sorry, I don't know how to make this any more plain. |
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Shemika,
1. I'm not talking about "black women," rather specific people on this board.
2. They clearly envy white women, not men. |
Tonya
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Grind:
"Tonya, I'm sorry, you actually said that you wished you were white as a child, but eventually outgrew these feelings. I still think that's pretty relevant, especially considering your views expressed in this thread."
What veiws? That white men are no more evil than black men? Well that's not my view it's history and science. |
Tonya
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Brownbeauty123 posted:
Halle Berry Wished She Was White
Halle Berry used to pray she would be "cured" of being black….
Abdi85:
I think her words are taken compleatly out of context. I actually read the original interview that quote came from and here it is. And yes I like X-Men so what! http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/xmen3.php
Halle Berry: I echo everything Ian said.
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Ian McKellen: Well, there aren't many of us in Hollywood [laughs]. But there are people who think gay people can be cured, so my reaction to that, that I can be cured as a mutant, is contemptuous, that people think I need curing for my sexuality. The idea that black people can take a pill that would cure them of being black is absolutely appalling to me. I'd like to hear of any character in this film who thinks this cure is a good idea, but there are some and they argue the case. It'll get you worked up, this movie, and so it should. I don't think people should be cured of their god-given nature.
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Halle:
Being a black woman, a woman of color, I think that's been an issue I've struggled with my whole life. Feeling like somehow when I was a child that if I could change myself, somehow my life would be invariably better. And as I've gotten older, I think I've come to terms with what nonsense that is and this movie certainly adds light to that dark subject.
Tonya:
I applaud her for admitting what she did. Many people felt that way as a child, I did. Who wouldn't?
You're constantly fed images of white kids getting the better toys and cereal. They have all the fun in the cartoons (Scooby Dooby Doo). They have the perfect families (The Brady bunch). They live leisurely lives (Fantasy Island). They're beautiful (Ginger - Gilligan's Island). They don't get "Whuppins," no matter how bad they are (Dennis the Menace - Bridget). And even their women are super heroes (Wonder woman - The Bionic Women). I thought they had easer lives too. And I thought my life would be perfect if I was like them. But I grew up. Sadly many have not, so on behalf of the young and old, I applaud Halle, Angela Basset, Lauren Hill, Mary J. Blige and all the other black/colored women who are speaking publicly about this. I even heard Vanessa Williams Mention something similar on Oprah last week. Good for her.
. . . .
Reneta:
what else was up with all the little girls who only wanted white dolls, who only thought long blond hair was pretty, who only wanted "good-haired" hispanic and asian girls as friends, who only had crushes on light haired blue-eyed boys in school and wished to have children that looked like them (and were CONGRATULATED if they did have kids like that)? If you didn't know at least 5 or more girls like this in school, I wish I lived in your America.
Tonya:
Actually, I wish I lived in yours, because in mine, it was never discussed.
So, no; I did not know five girls like that. Looking back now, I'm sure there were many; but how was I to know I wasn't the only one. And though I didn't have blue-eyed crushes, white dolls, or wished for babies - let alone one of a certain color - I did want the goddamned cereal! It would have nice to know that so did everybody else. And that's why I think this is a healthy discussion.
Also:
"I just find it strange that you guys had to wait for someone famous to say it, before you believed it."
Tonya:
Toni Morrison said it a long time ago--and we believed it.... You really were in a different America. |
Tonya
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If you read it in its entirety, you'll see that I wished I was as fortunate as I thought they were. I never said I wished I was white. Like I said. You lied. |
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Commentary: The Man Shortage for Sisters is All Too Real – And It's Killing Our Communities
Date: Monday, May 09, 2005
By: David Person, BlackAmericaWeb.com
All these years, sisters have been right. There really is a man shortage.
I knew something was up, just judging by the shortage of brothers in the pews at church. But I thought it had more to do with our preferences for sleeping in or watching the game.
Based on the 2000 Census, though, we brothers really are outnumbered by black women, inside and outside of church. And it has nothing to do with games.
Overall, the census indicates that there are more than 18.1 million black females in the U.S., compared to nearly 16.5 million black males. Specifically among those who are 18 and over, the sisters outnumber us about 12.7 million to 10.9 million.
Some brothers undoubtedly will assume this is their chance to add more names and numbers to their Palm Pilots for late-night booty calls. Truth is, all of us –- the players included –- should probably be a bit more somber and cautious about the population imbalance between black men and black women. Experts are suggesting that the reasons why the sisters outnumber us aren’t anything to cheer about.
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According to an article written by Jonathan Tilove and published recently in many of the Newhouse papers, violence, crime and disease are some of the key factors stripping black communities of men. Worse still, the article concluded that the shortage of black men is hitting major cities with high concentrations of black folk particularly hard.
In Philadelphia, for example, black men are outnumbered by black women by 37 percent. That means that for every 100,000 black men in the City of Brotherly Love, there are 137,000 black women. In New York, for every 100,000 black men, there are 136,000 black women.
In Chicago, my hometown, for every 100,000 brothers, there are 132,000 sisters. In Chocolate City -– Washington, D.C. for those of you uninitiated to the funk -– for every 100,000 brothers, there are 129,000.
Yes, brothers, that means there are a whole lot of black women without dates. But before salivating, let’s remember that also means there are probably a lot of black boys without men in their lives to show them how real men behave. That’s a lot of black girls without daddies to teach them what real love is and how a woman is supposed to be treated by her man.
Looking at it like that, merely entering new names and numbers in those BlackBerrys for future hook-ups seems almost trivial.
Brothers, I’m not suggesting that we black men who are single and eligible can’t enjoy the dating life. I’m just saying that we also must do something more: We must see what these numbers tell us about the challenges facing our communities and make some decisions about what we can do to bring a bit more balance to them.
Tilove’s article quotes 2002 Census figures which indicate that while black women outnumber black men by 26 percent, white women only outnumber white men by 8 percent. If we were looking at those kinds of numbers, I’d be one of the first ones telling the players to just play on.
But we’re looking at a crisis that points to serious problems. If we’re not being shot and killed, we’re being locked up. If we’re not being locked up, we’re dying prematurely due to stress or HIV/AIDS or diabetes or heart disease or prostate cancer.
I agree with the experts who argue that it is inherently more stressful being black in the U.S. than it is to be white. But brothers, there are ways to offset the pressures.
Slow down on the super-sized meals with all that red meat and fat and excess sugar. Exercise several times a week. Get enough sleep. Lay off the smokes, and cut back on the brews and shots.
Take time to just go and chill. Cue up some jazz, funk, classical or gospel music in the mp3 player, and take long walks in the evenings or early mornings. Or pop some Miles, Victor Wooten or Jill Scott in the CD player and take a leisurely drive.
Let’s try to live healthy, functional lives. Avoid violence and people who are prone to it. Step away from shady activities that keep us out in the streets and in harm’s way. And by all means, brothers, no high-risk, indiscriminate sex with multiple partners.
For the sake of our communities, our women, our children and our futures, we’ve got to defy these statistics. We must begin surviving and thriving.
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/sayitloud/person510 |
Abm
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Tonya,
Perhaps you don't know it. But what you've presented here is the REAL reason why many BW ain't got no man. It's a bad numbers game, that ain't got much of a dayam thing to do with brothas pursuing White women. |
Brownbeauty123
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I guess I do have to settle for an Asian man after all. |
Mzuri
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Girl, you don't have to settle for anything. Just look at your competition. I ain't never had a man shortage - in my entire life. And neither will you. |
Tonya
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ABM:
"Tonya, Perhaps you don't know it. But what you've presented here is the REAL reason why many BW ain't got no man. It's a bad numbers game, that ain't got much of a dayam thing to do with brothas pursuing White women."
Yes, ABM, I do know. That's why I posted it. I'm not saying that colorism is the only reason, though it is a very big chunk which we cannot afford.
On the one hand, I don't want to post stats confirming the current situation regarding black men--because I don't want to offend anyone--but on the other, we need to face reality. I think Cosby is correct when he says we have to stop pretending that the stats do not exist. There simply are not enough GOOD black men out there. And black women are choosing to expand. They can’t be blamed for that and if they are - oh well. Honestly, they should have been doing this a long time ago. They've always had good reasons, going back to the start of out and out in your face colorism.
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Tonya,
McKellen said, "The idea that black people can take a pill that would cure them of being black is absolutely appalling to me. I'd like to hear of any character in this film who thinks this cure is a good idea, but there are some and they argue the case."
To which Berry said, "Being a black woman, a woman of color, I think that's been an issue I've struggled with my whole life. Feeling like somehow when I was a child that if I could change myself, somehow my life would be invariably better."
She is clearly talking about struggling with a desire to be cured of her blackness.
You responded to Berry's quote with, "I applaud her for admitting what she did. Many people felt that way as a child, I did. Who wouldn't?"
And then, "I thought my life would be perfect if I was like them [whites]."
How foolish of me to interpret you as meaning that you had wished to be white. |
Tonya
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Damn!! You diggin’ kinda deep bro!
. . . . . .
I wasn't responding to all of what McKellen said. I skipped to Halle’s being a black woman comment, and backed tracked far enough to grasp what she was saying. Call it computer head if you like - but I only read one or two other paragraphs. Anyway, I doesn't matter what I read. Because if you look at what I wrote, I was CLEARLY talking about the toys, the fun, the name brand candy - everything that the kids on TV and in my neighborhood (I assumed) had. Keep in mind; I was barely school age, which should render this conversation pointless! O.k., where was I?? Oh yeah. You damn right I wanted to be like them! I wanted to be RICH!!!--to have the gadgets like Scooby Doo and Daphne! I already told you how I felt about the cereal. (Momma was good for buying them damn cornflakes.) ...And of course I wanted to be like ginger - fancy gear, long lashes and come on, allll of the attention? Man please. That's what I wanted, I wanted it all. But in all of my wanting, I never once thought I had to be white to get it…. Now rich, yeah--but it never occurred to me that I had to be white. Frankly, I didn't understand the difference between black and white back then. You see, my mother and my step pop had to work hard hours to afford the nice neighborhood we lived in; so the only thing I knew was, there was never enough money for me to have the fun things that I thought all the other children had. So for me (and my child's mind) it was money, not color. Who knew a thing about race or color?? I can honestly say for a time in my life, race did not exist, it didn’t matter. I thought money was what we needed in order for me to be like them - happy.
So no. I was never one to clip my nose with clothes pins.
But I was allllways the one work'n my ass off and get'n paid! *LMAO*
By the way, Halle is not talking about the desire to be white (not here).
She recalled the moments when she thought that she knew what she was missing. I have no idea how she has interpreted it...or if she ever found it. |
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Tonya: "we need to face reality. I think Cosby is correct when he says we have to stop pretending that the stats do not exist. There simply are not enough GOOD black men out there. And black women are choosing to expand. They can’t be blamed for that and if they are - oh well. Honestly, they should have been doing this a long time ago. They've always had good reasons, going back to the start of out and out in your face colorism."
Run to your White, Latino or Asian all you want. But know this: Whatever defect that exists within Black men also reside within Black women. And you can no more run from it than you can your own heart, mind and spirit. |
Schakspir
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Good luck with assigning White men that most noble task of fathering the saviors of Black humanity and culture.
They're probably more likely to do it than Black men.
Look at how slavery finally came to an end."
It's just what you desired all along: a white prick.
Admit it. |
Schakspir
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Abm: Run to your White, Latino or Asian all you want. But know this: Whatever defect that exists within Black men also reside within Black women. And you can no more run from it than you can your own heart, mind and spirit.
Schakspir: exactly. Who are these women trying to fool? They GIVE BIRTH to black boys, for crying out loud. To hear them talk, they'd have you believe that black men dropped from the trees. However, contrary to what these women think, black men are their creation and if they don't like it, they should start raising their kids right instead of slapping them around in public. |
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Get real, bw are not responsible for the fact bm grow up and act a fool. They can only do so much and you should be grateful of that because few bm can be counted on to do a damn thing when it comes to their own people. Black men are the ones who have failed to do their jobs as fathers, and combined with the effects of the institutionalized racism you overlook, that is a huge part of what we are seeing the fruits of. And boys of a certain age copy what other males are doing. And that is: disrespecting and using bw, sleeping around, and treating ww like precious status symbols. So you bm are responsible for you own choice in life just as you love to tell the little girls you molest and abandon to raise your children. You are often a walking manifestation of a surrogate wm, because you hook up with ww and sell out bw to appease them. That's your doing and no one else’s.
And the self loathing borderline wp loving offspring that bm are bringing about with ww certainly aren't bringing in our future. |
Schakspir
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"Get real, bw are not responsible for the fact bm grow up and act a fool."
Yes, they are. If they had been better parents, then they wouldn't fuck around. Even so, black men live in a society that is at all levels extremely hostile to blacks OF ALL GENDERS, thank you.
"They can only do so much and you should be grateful of that because few bm can be counted on to do a damn thing when it comes to their own people."
And what have black women done for their people, lately? Let's start with Condolezza Rice. She's sure done a hell of a lot, hasn't she?
"Black men are the ones who have failed to do their jobs as fathers, and combined with the effects of the institutionalized racism you overlook, that is a huge part of what we are seeing the fruits of."
Yes, that's true, but remember black fathers have mothers, too. Nobody just invented them, you know.
"And boys of a certain age copy what other males are doing. And that is: disrespecting and using bw, sleeping around, and treating ww like precious status symbols."
Why do you think they disrespect black women IF THEIR MOTHERS ARE ALWAYS SCREAMING AT THEM???? Jesus, are you guys blind? Or am I the only one who sees this when I walk out of my house? At every sizeable gathering of black Americans, this is what anybody can see: some black mother verbally and even physically abusing their kids(usually male). There's a correlation between parental abuse and later juvenile delinquency, but a lot of black people are simply not into that "psychoanalysis" stuff--they think that's for white boys.
"So you bm are responsible for you own choice in life just as you love to tell the little girls you molest and abandon to raise your children."
And you are also reponsible for your own legs: stop opening them for every thug who passes by. You say you "hate" thugs, but a lot of you women get so hot under the collar when they come knocking.
"You are often a walking manifestation of a surrogate wm, because you hook up with ww and sell out bw to appease them. That's your doing and no one else�s."
Again: blame the black man for everything, as if your royal highness has nothing to do with it. We are not islands unto ourselves. Also: the first sentence speaks volumes. YOU SIMPLY CAN'T STAND SEEING BLACK MEN WITH WHITE WOMEN. What the hell are you going to do about THAT? That's been happening since ancient times. Maybe you're not all that you are cracked up to be in the looks/attitude department.
"And the self loathing borderline wp loving offspring that bm are bringing about with ww certainly aren't bringing in our future."
Translation: I'm jealous, because I can't get my own white mate. Pathetic. |
Brownbeauty123
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Schakspir,
do you date outside your race?
Arabic men like Black women as well--but only for sexual purposes though. |
Schakspir
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Yes, every now and then--I have that right. |
Prettybabygirl
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Schakspir hates black women, BB123.
Can't you read between the lines?
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You just did everything you accuse bw of doing. And not everyone black worships at the Alter of White Supremacy or thinks everything white is divine as you apparently do. I don't need to ask if you date outside your race, you joke. And the way you can imply everything is a bw's fault, and then deny any responsibility to bm is absurd, juvenile, and cowardly. First of all your stereotypical generalizations about bw give away the fact that you’ve been drinking the nectar of racist white ideology. I’ve seen plenty of loud mouth abusive bm, loud mouth wm, and loud mouth ww. But your need to imply such behavior only pertains to bw says a lot about your lack of integrity. If a bw yells at her son due to stress she's abusive, but if a grown bm molests a girl then it’s the girls fault. How sorry and lacking in manhood can you get? The only thing the likes of you is fit for is being the sellouts to these ugly azz wp you worship. You are a surrogate wm and of no use to bp. All you know is how to condemn and find fault with bw because you loathe and hate them. But when some white witch lies on someone like you to have you imprisoned or you're beat down by a hateful cop suddenly you look to these bw you're too good for to be supportive. Something the likes of you never are for them. You are ugly inside and outside just like the hateful, fake ww you bow down to. And I’m not jealous of bm who opt to become some ww’s azz wipe instead of honoring his own people. |
Prettybabygirl
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Damn Shemika!
You told his asssssssss BUT GOOD!
Go head sista.
I need to print that out and hand deliver it to about two dozen "brothas" I know.
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Brownbeauty123
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Schakspir,
Correct. You DO have the right, or else you wouldn't be doing it. No need to get so defensive about it. |
Schakspir
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"You just did everything you accuse bw of doing. And not everyone black worships at the Alter of White Supremacy or thinks everything white is divine as you apparently do."
Pick out where I said I think White Supremacists are divine. You must not know how to read. BTW, what did I do, exactly? tell the truth? I'm sorry, but people can't say nice things to people 24/7--sometimes one has to tell it like it is.
"I don't need to ask if you date outside your race, you joke."
What the hell's THAT all about?
"And the way you can imply everything is a bw's fault, and then deny any responsibility to bm is absurd, juvenile, and cowardly."
Weak. I simply IMPLIED that it takes two to tango. You keep slinging shit at black guys without realizing that they are a part of a COMMUNITY of black people that includes, yes, black women. And you DO shoulder part of the blame for the way black men turn out, so don't give me that rubbish.
"First of all your stereotypical generalizations about bw give away the fact that you�ve been drinking the nectar of racist white ideology. I�ve seen plenty of loud mouth abusive bm, loud mouth wm, and loud mouth ww."
Stereotypical generalizations--well, that's funny, because the women on this discussion board fulfill those stereotypes on a very frequent basis, without even thinking of it....I call it like I see it.
"But your need to imply such behavior only pertains to bw says a lot about your lack of integrity. If a bw yells at her son due to stress she's abusive, but if a grown bm molests a girl then it�s the girls fault."
WRONG. You got the arguement all twisted. I simply said that black women also shoulder the blame. Nobody said or even implied that black perverts molesting little girls was the girls' fault. That's childish.
"How sorry and lacking in manhood can you get? The only thing the likes of you is fit for is being the sellouts to these ugly azz wp you worship. You are a surrogate wm and of no use to bp."
You don't even know what the hell you're talking about--sounds like convoluted Kola-talk. You try to excuse YOUR child abuse by simply saying it's "stress." Bullshit. That's the same lame-ass excuse all child-abusers use--"I'm all stressed-out"--so they take it out on their children. Kids have feelings, too, you know--but YOU wouldn't know that, would you??
"You are a surrogate wm and of no use to bp. All you know is how to condemn and find fault with bw because you loathe and hate them."
Never said that, nor implied it. I just simply call it like I see it, and a lot of black women are fucking up for various reasons.
"But when some white witch lies on someone like you to have you imprisoned or you're beat down by a hateful cop suddenly you look to these bw you're too good for to be supportive. Something the likes of you never are for them. You are ugly inside and outside just like the hateful, fake ww you bow down to. And I�m not jealous of bm who opt to become some ww�s azz wipe instead of honoring his own people."
Jumping to dumb-ass conclusions with no evidence. Please, lady. The whole world is NOT your neighborhood!!!
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Lil_ze
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Post Number: 139
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the saddest thing about this thread (or maybe its the best thing),is that it brings to light all of the angry, bitter, resentful black women who try to assign their own experiances to an entire nation of men. did all of the black men of jamaica, brazil, columbia, cuba etc, "grow up and act the fool", as shemika said? or is it just the black men of the u.s.? are the sons of west indian immigrants who are born in the u.s. are they growing up and acting "the fool (whatever the hell that means)". i have to totally agree with schakspir, some of the women posting here make statements with absoulutely NO evidence. there are MILLIONS so-called black men in this country, so how can the experiences of a handful of black women dictate what the reality of the situation is? foolish, bitter black women like prettybabygirl want to print something out, and hand it to "two dozen brothas" she knows. how small minded. just because some black woman knows some blackman that they have issues with, how does it all of a sudden become ALL black men? it doesn't, but because these black women are so angry, bitter, and emotional they attempt to take out their issues on ALL black men. but looking at the situation LOGICALLY, you just cannot make such sweeping generalizations. after hearing many of the comments of these black women, my advice to any blackman would be if you find a white woman who respects you, cares about you, and wants to see you happy, go with and marry that woman. life is too dam short to deal with the hostility and bitterness many (not all) of these black women harbor. |
Tonya
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ABM:
"But know this: Whatever defect that exists within Black men also reside within Black women."
Soooo true ABM. I couldn't agree more.
"And you can no more run from it than you can your own heart, mind and spirit."
Can you really call this situation running? According to the statistics, some black women may not have a choice. If you know more than what is being said and written, please enlighten me (us). I know I find some of it surprising. Cuz I see a large amount of black men wherever I go. And most of them don't act like they are involved or married. Yet I read articles like the one above and I can't help thinking that maybe they are, that they are out trying to cheat on their wives/spouses. Right? But if you know something we don't know, tell us. |
Kola_boof
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I certainly wasn't running Tonya.
I'm surrounded by Black men in the L.A. area who don't acknowledge black women, don't EVER hit on us and make it clear that they prefer a non-black woman.
It just so happens that a gorgeous younger Latino Cuban man made a pass at me...and didn't give up no matter how shitty I was to him.
And now we're fucking like rabbits. and eating my cooking from the TRUNK of my car (as I can't let him near my kids).
I would LOVE to have a black man to feed and sex, but I'm invisible to them out here.
I'm certain, however, that in ABM's part of the country--I'd have had no problem.
(ALSO--just being honest, but as I've been in the city just about everyday recently--White and Latino men are basically the only ones who acknowledge black women and flirt with us. I don't know where SERENASAILOR is. Thomas has a "new honie" (all of 21)--thankfully from Jamaica.)
What's a girl to do?
We really don't have a choice anymore.
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Lil_ze
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again, with the generalizations. just because the men YOU see don't make a pass at YOU does not mean "black men" don't acknowledge black women. only a fool would say something like "white and latino men are basically the only ones who flirt with us (black women)". your experience is only YOUR experience. it does not mean that this is happening on a large scale. the vast majority of black people are in other relationships with other black people. so if the TRUTH is to be told, it is totally false to say black men don't flirt with or acknowledge black women. it is also totally FALSE to say black men prefer a "non-black" woman. the fact that most black men are in a relationship with a black woman PROVES black men prefer black women.
just because some ugly, filthy half-arab/half sudanese lunatic is ignored by our men does not mean black men ignore black women. its almost laughable to listen to someone from some far-off land speak about our people as if what she is saying is the truth. this stranger will do and say anything (because of her intense jealousy of our people) to divide and confuse our people.
anyone who would write something like "now we're fucking like rabbits (which i don't believe for a minute)". is very clearly disturbed, with a serious need to be noticed. how pathetic. |
Abm
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Tonya,
Black men come from Black mothers, sister, kin and friend. YOU are within the genesis of every strength and weakness that we have.
So where there is some Black man hating Black women, there is some Black women hating Black women. |
Shemika
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Schakspir,
You are so full of shyt. I bet you can go on forever making selective observations to justify bashing bw who are at least attempting to raise their children while ignoring sorry bm who, like you, only care about themselves. You are like a broken record just making up ridiculous shyt – if you know of a case of abuse you should deal with said case rather than concocting lame azz scenarios about fathom black women to justify spewing out you pent up misdirected venom – Damn liar. And you feel at liberty to utter whatever dung that’s in your gutted mind but have the gall the act as if bw should stand back and not respond to your ignorance. Sorry, but you won’t get the beaten down docility you are seeking from me. If you are going to get so sanctimonious in your condemnations of bw being failures at raising kids while showing no concern about young black females being exploited by grown azz black man, then you aren’t worth the shyt you’re filled with. I have no respect for you and you haven’t earned any. And if you don't like being spoken ill of you need to shut the h*ll up your self.
Lil_ze,
You are just the type of bw to raise a hateful self-loathing devil like this. Someone like you would be the type to help cover up the fact he’s abusive and avoid supporting any children by bw. You’ve already demonstrated your lack of character. You’re in no position to get sanctimonious with me after all the elaborate BS you have posted to justify your hatred of bw and their children by sorry white worshiping bm and hateful witches like you. Even desecrating scripture and making up unfounded crap. You are the one who’s pathetic. All of my posts have been in response to the BS posted by you and Schakspir. There was no excuse for the ridiculous shyt you posted.
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Lil_ze
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Post Number: 141
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im a guy, shemika. do any of the men on this board want to really deal with a black woman like shemika? i don't think so. some of these black women (not all) just have the WORST additudes you can imagine. to be honest, im just sick of many of them. |
Ntfs_encryption
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".........sorry white worshiping bm and hateful witches like you. Even desecrating scripture and making up unfounded crap. You are the one who’s pathetic. All of my posts have been in response to the BS posted by you and Schakspir. There was no excuse for the ridiculous shyt you posted."
So I guess this means you don't like Lil_e and Schakspir...?
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Ntfs_encryption
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Post Number: 285
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"im a guy, shemika. do any of the men on this board want to really deal with a black woman like shemika? i don't think so. some of these black women (not all) just have the WORST additudes you can imagine. to be honest, im just sick of many of them."
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That's funny. |
Shemika
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Oh it’s evident you’re “sick” of bw since everything coming out of you mouth is a rationalization for the callousness held towards them in your cracka heart.
The fact your feminized surrogate cracka azz wouldn’t want a bw like me doesn’t bother me in the least because I wouldn’t tolerate a punk like you. You mention how intolerant you are of “black women”. But jackazzes like you don’t apply such standards to all the crass, loud mouth, domineering, fat azz trailer trash white witches whose azzes you give up your dignity to kiss. But you feel that because you’ve dishonored yourself by being some ww’s bytch that a bw should tolerate being disrespected by you to compensate for your sense of powerlessness and inadequacy.
Well, I don’t care how few “good” bm men there are, I won’t settle for or be disrespected by punks like you just to be in the company of a spineless creep I can’t stand anyway. If you want to complain about someone you need to take a look in the mirror, at all you uncle toms and all ya’ll azzes up in the gay bars frittering away your manhood and anybody else’s unfortunate enough to come under your influence. Instead of gossiping about bw like the hags you are. And I find the fact that a sold out idiot like you disapproves of what I say quite delightful ANYWAY.
And I’m extremely happy to hear you’re not a bw, it would be a real shame if you were. Now all the BS you’ve been posting makes sense.
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Urban_scribe
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- 1990 US Census Bureau: African-American men had White wives 2.5 times MORE than African-American woman had White husbands
- 2000 US Census Bureau: African-American men had White wives 2.65 times MORE than African-American women had White husbands
The number or Black men marrying White women continues to rise.
Considering that Black women outnumber Black men by nearly 2 million, Black men certainly have an amply supply of Black women to choose from.
Clearly, White women could not have Black/Biracial children if Black men were not willing participants. |
Fortified
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^^^^This is why black women need to get over it. The numbers are not going to change. No amount of fussing, cussing, crying, berating and finger pointing is going to change the way black men feel about black women. You cannot make someone want to be with you. You cannot make someone see that you are the best choice for them. If they refuse to see that, count it as their loss and move on.
Black women we look pathetic when we cuss out black men for not wanting us. Black men crave that attention.
Let's not forget, it is a black man who started this thread (lil_ze).
It is a black man who said he is sick of black women.
It is a black man who said that ONLY children of black men are considered black. That children of white women and black men are a part of the black community. That if a black woman were to pro-create with a white man she is diseased, and their children have the soul of a white man.
Sistas, is this the type of man you want to fuss over? I mean, let's be serious here.
Black men and white women are basking in this attention. Face it, they don't give a shit about you, why are you so focused on what they do?
Black women need their own identity. We have spent an eternity knowing ourselves ONLY in the context of black men or white women. We need our own movement. We need to focus on our needs. Stop looking to the black man and the white woman for insight or belonging. They are self-motivated individuals who could give a fuck about you. Just look at the statistics. Look at history. The Women's Rights Movement was made solely for white women. The black power movement was solely for black men. Even the Black Panthers helped themselves to white women. Hello? She is his kryptonite, his weakness. There is NOTHING you can do to change that. Accept it and move on, please. |
Lil_ze
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fortified, you have once again misquoted me. i did not say i was sick of "black women". i said i was sick of many of them and their additudes. you are correct that i said ONLY the children of black men are a part of our people. i did say that any black woman who lays with the white man is full of diseases (because the white man is the biggest disease carrier on earth, his sperm is cancerous). i did say the children of white men and black women have the soul of white men.
but there is no animosity between black men and black women on this large scale, as many black women claim. black men do want black women. most black men are in relationships with other black women. its always been this way. we live in a society that has millions and millions of people from different nationalites. of course as the population increases you will have more interracial relationships. just because you have more black men in relationships with white women, than you do black women with white men, only proves that black men are more attractive to white women than white men are to black women. the women of ALL the nations know (whether they admit it or not) that the blackman (in america, the west indies, central and south america) is the superior man. white women just have recognized this and followed their feelings. i can't blame any black man for being with a white woman, because life is just too short. if a woman (any woman) treats you good, why not go with that woman? but, the fact is that most black men are with black women. its always been this way and always will be this way. lets not believe the words of a few bitter black women. |
Tonya
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Okay Fortified!! Puttting that thang down! That was an excellent post! Thanks.
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Fortified
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Post Number: 121
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No problem. I am just sick and tired of sistas focusing on men who don't want them. I am tired of seeing them hope and pray, and breed for men who don't cherish them, want to protect them or put them on a pedestal like they do white women. They should be focusing on themselves and the right man who will want them will come along--and yes, he may be black or not. Like Lil_ze said, "life is too short". He is right. Life is way too short to be chasing after men who don't feel the same way about you. |
Schakspir
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Post Number: 302
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"Tonya,
Black men come from Black mothers, sister, kin and friend. YOU are within the genesis of every strength and weakness that we have.
So where there is some Black man hating Black women, there is some Black women hating Black women."
Which is exactly what I've been saying all along. |
Schakspir
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Post Number: 303
Registered: 12-2005
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Shemika: Schakspir,
You are so full of shyt. I bet you can go on forever making selective observations to justify bashing bw who are at least attempting to raise their children while ignoring sorry bm who, like you, only care about themselves. You are like a broken record just making up ridiculous shyt � if you know of a case of abuse you should deal with said case rather than concocting lame azz scenarios about fathom black women to justify spewing out you pent up misdirected venom � Damn liar. And you feel at liberty to utter whatever dung that�s in your gutted mind but have the gall the act as if bw should stand back and not respond to your ignorance. Sorry, but you won�t get the beaten down docility you are seeking from me. If you are going to get so sanctimonious in your condemnations of bw being failures at raising kids while showing no concern about young black females being exploited by grown azz black man, then you aren�t worth the shyt you�re filled with. I have no respect for you and you haven�t earned any. And if you don't like being spoken ill of you need to shut the h*ll up your self.
Schakspir: Talk about misdirected venom. You've never said anything intelligent the whole time you've been posting here. Everything is just a good ol' knee-jerk response in true "mammy" fashion. |
Schakspir
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Post Number: 304
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Black women need their own identity. We have spent an eternity knowing ourselves ONLY in the context of black men or white women. We need our own movement. We need to focus on our needs. Stop looking to the black man and the white woman for insight or belonging. They are self-motivated individuals who could give a fuck about you. Just look at the statistics. Look at history. The Women's Rights Movement was made solely for white women. The black power movement was solely for black men. Even the Black Panthers helped themselves to white women. Hello? She is his kryptonite, his weakness. There is NOTHING you can do to change that. Accept it and move on, please.
CIA Rhetoric. |
Fortified
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Post Number: 122
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^^^^LOL! Is that all you can say? Your posts prove my point Schakspir. |
Serenasailor
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I don't know how anyone could assume that black women envy white men. A black woman doesn’t want his woman (normally anyway). If anything it's the black men who envy white men. That's why so many marry ww and assume the same hateful attitude toward their own bw as wm and ww have toward all blacks.
He is the one abandoning his role as a bm to assume the one of a wm along side the ww. Also, bm complain if bw date outside the race although they have no intentions of being loyal to bw in the least, another one of the countless double standards they impose solely on bw. -Because ww, of course, can do no wrong in their eyes, and nor can they. Either way, it is natural to expect to be able to find someone to procreate and raise a family with within your own people, because when your own place you at the bottom of their list that's pretty bad.
Another reason bm pursue ww is because in their sick minds their self worth is measured by the acceptance of white people. So they will sell out their own for white approval and actually believe they are showing up the white man by snatching up his surplus women while forsaking the wellbeing of his own people’s future existence in the process. Suckers.
thank you so much Shemika for telling it like it is. |
Schakspir
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Post Number: 305
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"^^^^LOL! Is that all you can say? Your posts prove my point Schakspir."
What more IS there to say?
When you say you need your "own movement," anybody with a brain, and who understands American racial culture, knows what this means. It means you want to separate yourselves from the rest of Black America and form your own fucking ethnic group. In which case, I thoroughly support you in your efforts to separate yourselves from Black America, because we don't need you deceitful, pompous, crass, obnoxious bourgeois assholes among us. Go to Guyana or some other goddamned place--just get away from us ASAP.
BTW, stop talking as if you represent every black woman in the world, because YOU DON'T. YOU represent YOU, or, at least, your bourgeois class. |
Schakspir
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Post Number: 306
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"I don't know how anyone could assume that black women envy white men. A black woman doesn�t want his woman (normally anyway). If anything it's the black men who envy white men. That's why so many marry ww and assume the same hateful attitude toward their own bw as wm and ww have toward all blacks.
He is the one abandoning his role as a bm to assume the one of a wm along side the ww. Also, bm complain if bw date outside the race although they have no intentions of being loyal to bw in the least, another one of the countless double standards they impose solely on bw. -Because ww, of course, can do no wrong in their eyes, and nor can they. Either way, it is natural to expect to be able to find someone to procreate and raise a family with within your own people, because when your own place you at the bottom of their list that's pretty bad.
Another reason bm pursue ww is because in their sick minds their self worth is measured by the acceptance of white people. So they will sell out their own for white approval and actually believe they are showing up the white man by snatching up his surplus women while forsaking the wellbeing of his own people�s future existence in the process. Suckers.
thank you so much Shemika for telling it like it is."
Everybody's favorite obnoxious drag queen is back. |
Shemika
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Schakspir,
That's what happens when confronted with buffoons like you. But I suppose your idea of intelligence is reiterating the black female bashing sentiments one would hear at a Klan rally. Only you pick them up from your white girlfriend who’s got your minstrel acting behind so diluted you can’t tell the difference.
Lil_ze,
“only proves that black men are more attractive to white women than white men are to black women.”
-Another example of black male arrogance. If you want to know the reason they are with you it’s to compensate for all the homosexual wm and those going out of their race or don’t want them. Not to mention the fact bm disgrace your own people by honoring them like the idolatrous slaves they want blacks to be. What’s not to like? Despite the fact ww act no different than wm and serve in hate groups like the Klan right by their side stupid black men in America sing more praises to ww than they ever did to god.
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Serenasailor
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My sister who is gorgeous by the way said that same thing. That black men out here don't date BW. She gets approached all the time by non-black men. But she has not been on a date with a black man in over 2 years. |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 2081
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Everybody's favorite obnoxious drag queen is back.
No, I'm not YOUR MOTHER, Schakspir.
And don't be mad at me just because your
I.D. reads PRINCESS TINY MEAT.
To top it off....
your sorry ass can't dance
Your perfect idea of a "SISTA"
is this:
And you blame it on ME and other
black women that this is what you
look like
You really need to put your one
tooth back up in that WHITE SKANK CRUNCH
that "foam-fuckers" like you love so
goddamned much---and get the fuck off MY
SHOW---because you're not man enough to ride
in my dreams,
you roach-faced Musty-funk
soup suck'n BUY SOME PUSSY no brain and
no dick....motherfucker.
And when you fuck your retarded mother
tonight---cry in her ALMOST WHITE bosom
BOUT WHAT I SAID.
MALE BITCH.
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 2082
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PUNK
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 2083
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PUNK
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 2084
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PUNK
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Kola_boof
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Post Number: 2085
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Now get on
back to your
delicious
WHITE SKANK CRUNCH
DO NOT TELL
"SCHAKSPIR"...
WHAT WE BEEN
DOING, DOGGY.
HE'S A GOOD OLD
BLACK NIGGER AND
BREAKS HIS BACK TO
KEEP ME DATING HIS
NO-DICK ASS.
WE GOME HAVE SUM GOOD
LOOK'N MIXED BI-RACIALS.
BUT It's YOU FIDO THAT
I GET MY DICK FROM.
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Serenasailor
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Post Number: 513
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Everybody's favorite obnoxious drag queen is back.
In the Flesh Biyatch!!! Now go grab your wig so you can join me on stage!!! |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 514
Registered: 01-2006
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What you guys don't understand is that BM is the white mans trash collector. He is clean out the genetic trash that WM don't want.
It helps that white man in two ways. First, the BM is taking WW that would otherwise produce unhealthy white children.
Secondly, this also helps eliminate the weakening Black population.
Understand these are WW that WM don't want. |
Grind
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Username: Grind
Post Number: 42
Registered: 04-2006
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"Damn!! You diggin� kinda deep bro!"
Tonya,
Hey, if that's not what you meant, then I apologize, but I doubt that I'm the only person who interpreted you that way. |
Grind
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Username: Grind
Post Number: 43
Registered: 04-2006
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"My sister who is gorgeous by the way said that same thing. That black men out here don't date BW."
Serenasailor,
Out where? |
Grind
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 04-2006
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I don't know about where you all live, but 95% of the BM/WF couples I see around my way (in the south) are ghetto/trailer gutter trash. It's rare to see educated black men with white women around here. |
Grind
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Username: Grind
Post Number: 45
Registered: 04-2006
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"What veiws? That white men are no more evil than black men? Well that's not my view it's history and science."
No, I meant the view that you can "uphold blackness" by breeding with a white man. |
Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 307
Registered: 12-2005
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"PUNK" three times....Wow, man. How tacky and lame can you get? This board sucks shit. The people on here are obviously in their thirties and forties, or even older, and think like junior high schoolers. I've said it before and I'll say it again: FUCK THE BLACK BOURGEOISIE. |
Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 308
Registered: 12-2005
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"Schakspir,
That's what happens when confronted with buffoons like you. But I suppose your idea of intelligence is reiterating the black female bashing sentiments one would hear at a Klan rally. Only you pick them up from your white girlfriend who�s got your minstrel acting behind so diluted you can�t tell the difference."
News flash: MY girlfriend is black. She simply doesn't weigh 300 pounds, or is a stark-raving psycho nutcase.
BTW, she isn't light-skinned, either. ;0) |
Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 309
Registered: 12-2005
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"
You really need to put your one
tooth back up in that WHITE SKANK CRUNCH
that "foam-fuckers" like you love so
goddamned much---and get the fuck off MY
SHOW---because you're not man enough to ride
in my dreams,
you roach-faced Musty-funk
soup suck'n BUY SOME PUSSY no brain and
no dick....motherfucker.
And when you fuck your retarded mother
tonight---cry in her ALMOST WHITE bosom
BOUT WHAT I SAID.
MALE BITCH."
Hold on a second, camel-breath. Nobody is on your show, or violating your time. Nobody here wants to trip out in your dreams because we have other things to do than worry about your psycho trips. Try taking deep breaths, or buy some roses to stick in a vase. Better yet, try heroin. Or depressants. Knock yourself out and forget that assholes like me roam the world pissing on your dreams.
BTW, hola to your little friend from Cuba....if he really does exist. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2088
Registered: 02-2005
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up the ass PUNK. |
Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 311
Registered: 12-2005
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Goodnight, children....I have better things to do than to try and change everyone's diapers all at once. Especially the great Kay-Bee, who keeps on shitting all over himself in rage. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2091
Registered: 02-2005
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No, I'm laughing at your 2 inch dick.
BITCH-ulla.
And I wish I was a man--because then it would be a fair match (we notice you only attack women, PUNK)....and then I'd come and beat the fuck out of your lame ass.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4734
Registered: 01-2004
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tsk-tsk, Kola. What will the staff of DOOL think about your lapsing into your old ways?? |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2100
Registered: 02-2005
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Since when were my ways "OLD" or dismissed?
You're claiming I changed into somebody else?
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4736
Registered: 01-2004
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No, but since on the advice of your managment, appearing on this board is supposed to be inappropriate for someone of your "ascending status", one would think that you would do everything you could to conceal your craziness. LMAO. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2101
Registered: 02-2005
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LMAO with you.
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Mint_carl0v3
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Why does it matter as long as the mothers love thier children.
Maybe some of those women did hunt for a black man just to have mixed babies but I'm sure not all of them did
Yes I have noticed that some of these women seem unusually happy with their kids, but so do most young moms
My parents are both mixed( my mom Ethiopian/Italian and my father Yemeni/Israeli/Eritrean) and thier parents did not have children to breed biracials but b.c they were in love
Plus what about the black women who are with white men and have biracial kids??
Are they trying to be white?
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2109
Registered: 02-2005
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No...they're desperate and had nowhere else to turn.
But we feel sorry for you.
You have our sympathy.
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Moonsigns
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Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1224
Registered: 07-2004
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Kola,
You better simmer down--you don't want to get fired from that 'day job'! LMAO!
Hope you and your chalupa are well!
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Mint_carl0v3
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Username: Mint_carl0v3
Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2006
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Hahah why would I need any sympathy?? |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 313
Registered: 10-2005
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"But we feel sorry for you.You have our sympathy."
Ummm....why do you feel sorry? Just curious....
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Shemika
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Username: Shemika
Post Number: 85
Registered: 02-2006
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"News flash: MY girlfriend is black. She simply doesn't weigh 300 pounds, or is a stark-raving psycho nutcase.
BTW, she isn't light-skinned, either. ;0)"
Well, I feel sorry for her then. Because it’s evident that you have the mentality of the racist crackas you've been hanging out with in the past. Otherwise you'd be able to refer to bw without making hateful, derogatory characterizations. No matter how hard you try to conceal it, the fact you’re nothing but a pathetic white worshiping idiot comes seeping through your rotting carcass. And I have absolutely NO respect for your chicken shyt azz.
Yet want-a-bees like you nearly pass out when someone refers to you as the gold-tooth wearing, neck-bone and thumb sucking, crack daddy, and back room butt buddy that you are.
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Brotherman
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Username: Brotherman
Post Number: 1
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is this the best we can do for a cultural dialogue? May god have mercy on our children, because if this bloody hatred is what we are giving them, THEY ARE GOING TO NEED IT. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 146
Registered: 02-2006
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As much as i like alot of what kola has to say (and even a few of the things tonya has to say)i have to agree with ABM....alot of the women on this board are biased in terms of interracial relationships and seem to see relationships between black women and non-black men as ok while constantly talking down on relationships between black men and non-black women,....they have to know that this thinking is quite hipocritical. This type of hipocracy also diminishes the good points they make and it keeps people from even trying to identify with and understand the issues black women face. I dont care how many good points that tonya and Kola make, unfortunately people will focus in on this and see it as a self-serving agenda (just like moonsigns called it.)This is quite unfortunate but it's the truth. Some of these women may have the best interest of the black race in mind but they're not perfect and if they are smart they would cease from trying to convince people that there is something wrong with black men dating outside the race, all the while embracing relaitonships between black women and white men. Simply put, this type of th8inking distracts from the positive aspects of the movement that blakc women are trying to accomplish.
"There is a prevailing double-standard. That double-standard is NOT unique to this website.
And it's that duplicity, along with other things, which taint and compromise what might otherwise be some fairly valid arguments."
However, ABM, when you say this the first thing that came to mind is black women obviously aren't the ONLY ones with this mindset.....and i beleive you know that as well....there are countless black men who i've ran into with their white girlfriends who are just as hipocritical as these sista's you complain about...and i'm sure that deep down inside you know this as well as i do. i've experienced this same type of hipocracy from black males first hand...Alot of them are in my own family.
I'll never forget this one guy who my dad had set me up with telling me that he was more attracted to white and hispanics. Yet, he had the nerve to ask me if i thought it was ok for black women to date white men....when i told him i saw absolutely nothing wrong with it and that my ex was white he had the nerve to act upset with me and claim that he didn't want "territory that's been trodden through."
It was plain ridiculous.
I like you ABM but lets be real and not pretend that black women are the only hipocrites in our community. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 148
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 08:41 pm: |
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""News flash: MY girlfriend is black. She simply doesn't weigh 300 pounds, or is a stark-raving psycho nutcase.
BTW, she isn't light-skinned, either. ;0)"
Well, I feel sorry for her then. Because it’s evident that you have the mentality of the racist crackas you've been hanging out with in the past. Otherwise you'd be able to refer to bw without making hateful, derogatory characterizations. No matter how hard you try to conceal it, the fact you’re nothing but a pathetic white worshiping idiot comes seeping through your rotting carcass. And I have absolutely NO respect for your chicken shyt azz.
Yet want-a-bees like you nearly pass out when someone refers to you as the gold-tooth wearing, neck-bone and thumb sucking, crack daddy, and back room butt buddy that you are. "
Shemika, this is what i'm talking about...i dont get why so many black women focus so mcuh on the negativity they recieve from black men who are in interracial relaitonships when we recieve it from the very same men who sleep black, are married black and claim to "love black women." These men are no beter than the black men who marry white and diss black women in public. The only difference is they are either more attracted to black women sexually or they dont want to put up with the resentment from their families if they married white.
There are tons of men who prefer and "love black ass" but see black women as hoes. these are the main ones we should be confronting because there are more black men with this attitude who marry black than those who marry white. |
Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 143
Registered: 01-2006
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lindsey lohan is a hot white girl! |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4890
Registered: 04-2004
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Misty,
I have not witnessed Black men who interracially mate complain about and degrade Black women who do so as well. But then, virtually ALL of the BM with whom I regularly associate have Black women.
I agree with you that any BM who bones Whites, Asians and Hispanics have NO business castigating BW who do the same. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 152
Registered: 02-2006
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fair enough.
ABM, you haven't hung around any black men who even dated interracial in the past? |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4892
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Misty,
Yes. I have known and still know some men who have and do interracially date. But I don't recall any of them saying it is okay for them to date White foks while sistahs should not. Tis not to say they don't harbor such duplicity. I just haven't witnessed it.
The vast majority of Black men with whom I regularly interract with have Black women. Because, believe it or not, THAT is how MOST Black men in America get-down. |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 01-2006
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abm, what you say is true. the reality is most black men are with black women. don't believe the hype people! |
Caprical
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Post Number: 16
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hi |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 156
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I knw that most blakc men are married to black women but as i said in an ealier post there are black men who only date black women because they dont want any static from the female members (and some fo the male memebers) in their family, especially not their moms. So in order to maintain a good relationship with their moms they marry black. Not saying all or most blakc men only choose to date and marry black women for this reason.
Also as i pointed out earlier, jsut because someone is more attracted to black women than they are other races doesnt mean they respect black women.
Look at how blondes are treated by white men. alot of men prefer blondes but blondes also get the least amount of respect in the white race.
look at the relationship between men and women period regardless of race. Most men prefer to sleep with and marry women but they treat women with less respect than they do men. this is most evident in countries outside america (such as asian countries, arab countries, african, latin countries countries and many european countries) Sexists have a love hate relationship with women even if they marry them. |
Shemika
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 02-2006
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Misty:
"Shemika, this is what i'm talking about...i dont get why so many black women focus so mcuh on the negativity they recieve from black men who are in interracial relaitonships when we recieve it from the very same men who sleep black, are married black and claim to "love black women." These men are no beter than the black men who marry white and diss black women in public. The only difference is they are either more attracted to black women sexually or they dont want to put up with the resentment from their families if they married white.
There are tons of men who prefer and "love black ass" but see black women as hoes. these are the main ones we should be confronting because there are more black men with this attitude who marry black than those who marry white."
shemika:
I don't know where you're coming from with this. My posts were in response to the outrageous ranting by Lil_ze denigrating the offspring between bw & wm while anointing that between a bm and ww with his foolish rhetoric. He's the one with the double standard. I have no problem responding to the ignorance of jacked-up bm, it’s not as if they could get any worse. If bw don't respect them selves enough to speak up against such verbal vandals, who else will? We all know where the bm's loyalties lie.
And I don't know where you live but there are plenty of Uncle Toms where I'm at.
Amn is wrong too. Because for him to complain that bw have no right to complain about all the bm going out of the race just because a comparatively few bw do so is a self centered outrage considering the limited alternatives bw have. But this is unfortunately characteristic of the bm attitude toward bw - completely indifferent.
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Abm
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Post Number: 4961
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 06:34 am: |
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Misty
I’ll bet most mothers don’t care very much for most women their sons date, at least initially. It’s a possessive, territorial thing.
I don’t know the degree to which a disapproving mother would dissuade a Black man from dating a White woman. I imagine that might be a factor. But, hell, if most guys ONLY dated and married women their mothers approved of very FEW men would date/marry at all.
Respect is a function of both power and perception.
Men often disrespect woman because they can. They often might be less respectful of women than they are of other men because of the perception that another man is has more physical power and inclination to reap woeful vengeance than do most women.
Still, men will in some ways disrespect each other in ways they will NOT women. And men will often offer certain gratuities to women that they will not extend to other men.
Moreover, often, women appear to want to be taken by men to some degree which can result in certain forms of disrespect. Extreme instances of this often result in sexual and domestic violence scenarios.
And women often perceive themselves as being disrespected when men either do not intent to or even know they are being disrespectful.
Lastly, much of lack of respect is the result of the breakdown of certain social order. As we’ve moved away from family and community and more towards the individual, there is much less reason for and enforcement of much of what we had previously considered to be expressions of...respect.
Shemika,
I apologize.
You are right: It is your and every other Black woman's GOD-given, American right to complain, whine, b*tch & moan about Black men all you want to.
And it is every Black man's GOD-given, American right to ignore you. |
Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 354
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:29 pm: |
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"I agree with you that any BM who bones Whites, Asians and Hispanics have NO business castigating BW who do the same."
I agree. In fact, I talked to a young black woman who brought up this subject today. I told her exaclty (almost verbatim) what you said.
"ABM, you haven't hung around any black men who even dated interracial in the past?"
I know quite a few who have. In fact, half of them are married to non-black women.
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Güѧ«»bù±±Ë®
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Username: Güѧ«»bù±±Ë®
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2006
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Posted by Misty:
"As much as i like alot of what kola has to say (and even a few of the things tonya has to say)i have to agree with ABM....alot of the women on this board are biased in terms of interracial relationships and seem to see relationships between black women and non-black men as ok while constantly talking down on relationships between black men and non-black women,....they have to know that this thinking is quite hipocritical. This type of hipocracy also diminishes the good points they make and it keeps people from even trying to identify with and understand the issues black women face. I dont care how many good points that tonya and Kola make, unfortunately people will focus in on this and see it as a self-serving agenda (just like moonsigns called it.)This is quite unfortunate but it's the truth. Some of these women may have the best interest of the black race in mind but they're not perfect and if they are smart they would cease from trying to convince people that there is something wrong with black men dating outside the race, all the while embracing relaitonships between black women and white men. Simply put, this type of th8inking distracts from the positive aspects of the movement that blakc women are trying to accomplish. "
This is precisely what came to mind while I was reading this thread, though I'd venture to say 99% of their views are extreme and downright pathological. |
Racialrealist
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Post Number: 12
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i just came back from a relative's wedding. there were many white young women with black (mixed, but there still black) children. now i understand that mothers love their children and children love their mothers. but does anyone else when they see a white woman with a black child become slightly bothered?
Although I was one of those children, it does bother me seeing "black" biracial children (ie children who society would classify as black) with white women - I agree regarding the control aspect - ie the fact that these white women have absolute control over a black child. These days whenever I see a white woman with a black child I feel terribly sorry for the child as in my view most of these women are pretty racist. I also agree that for some white women it would be the ultimate power trip - even better than transracial adoption lol.
http://racialrealist.wordpress.com/ |
Racialrealist
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I think white women are into black men primarily because they love the way blacks put them on a pedestal.
Yes, I believe that a high proportion of white women who go after black men are in it to have their ego stroked and their whiteness reinforced. Other white women have different motivations eg the "low self esteem type" who subconsciously feels emotionally safer in relationships with men from lower status social groups eg black/ other non-white men. Then there is a smaller proportion of women who chase black men because they believe the sexual myths. In short I believe that virtually all of these relationships are driven by motives other than genuine love (even if the individuals in queestion believe they are truly in love) - that's my personal view anyway. |
Teresarae
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I wrote about this in my book as well. Look for me in Black Issues Book Review in the NOVEMBER/ DECEMBER 2006 issue. You can find out more by visiting to my website at www.text4mpublishing.com
or at http://www.blog-blast.com/go.php?id=1379531
www.myspace.com/teresaraebutler   |
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