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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4757
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 08:53 am: | 
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http://www.isteve.com/2003_Census_Interracial_Marriage_Gender_Gap.htm.
“…Asian women had white husbands 3.08 times more often than Asian men had white wives. That means 75 percent of white-Asian couples featured a white husband and Asian wife.
...Although the bitterness that some black women feel over intermarriage is well known, the imbalance rests even more heavily on Asian-American men. For every 1,000 Asian women with husbands, only 860 Asian men had wives, leaving a large number of Asian bachelors left over. In contrast, for every 1,000 black women who were married, there were 1,059 black married men.
...The inevitable flip side of the lack of interracial marital opportunities felt by black women and Asian men is that black men and Asian women find themselves more in demand as spouses.
...There were 6.15 times more couples where the husband was black and the wife was Asian than where the husband was Asian and the wife black.”
I predict that if these trends continue, at some point there will develop a growing attraction been African American Women and Asian American Men.
You agree? |
Brownbeauty123
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 376
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 09:04 am: |
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Generally, I'm not attracted to Asian men. |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 697
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:09 am: |
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Are you asking me if I'm gonna stop fucking these oh-my-gawd-fine-ass-big-dick-chocolate-colored Black men to go and be with a kimchee-smellin-pencil-dick oriental? If so, the answer would be "NO!!!" I'd rather chew off my arm. |
Moonsigns
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Username: Moonsigns
Post Number: 1198
Registered: 07-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:12 am: |
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Though I'm (obviously) not a black woman, I don't find Asian men attractive. |
Kenology
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Username: Kenology
Post Number: 51
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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LMFAO @ Mzuri!!!
Seriously, yo... My co-workers started lookin' over here like "WTF!?", 'cause I was laughin' so damn hard!
I saw one sista with an Asian dude... kinda brown skinned so I'd say he's from Indo-China (i.e. Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, etc...). Was the first time I'd ever seen that. I don't like to see sistas dating outside the race, but I know it's necessary because there aren't enough of us black men around (for various reasons).  |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 700
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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Well Ken. I'm glad you had a good laugh. Actually wasn't trying to be funny - I'm dead serious. But I can see the humor in my statement. But honestly, what Black woman in her right mind would prefer to be with anything but the BEST!!! BLACK MEN RULE!!! |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2742
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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I've felt Asian men were sexy waaay before this trend--but not because a racist society labeled them more masculine. If black men had done to them what they have done to black women, they wouldn't be able to take it--they wouldn't survive. To have the CORE of your humanity stripped away by none others than your own - IN THIS RACIST SOCIETY - is overkill...and as Kola said: "It is the 'ultimate' betrayal." There are no comparing black women dating interracially with black men dating interracially. None. |
Kenology
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Username: Kenology
Post Number: 52
Registered: 05-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:42 pm: |
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Mzuri - "But honestly, what Black woman in her right mind would prefer to be with anything but the BEST!!! BLACK MEN RULE!!!"
I love to hear that! 'Cause I feel the exact same way about Black women!
Mzuri, let's get married!
Tonya - "There are no comparing black women dating interracially with black men dating interracially. None."
That's very true. Unfortunate. But true.
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Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 4758
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 01:07 pm: |
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All,
I'm reading all this eternal Black love being expressed here.
I'm considering that Black foks are somewhere around +70% single parenting. And it's being projected that about 45% of Black women will never marry at ALL.
And then I'm wondering which of the above are more relevant and REAL. |
Shemika
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Username: Shemika
Post Number: 75
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 01:25 pm: |
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When I was stationed in Korea all the black men were dating outside their race and basically ignored sisters. I was upset and eventually dated a Korean man out of desperation. He was attractive, taller and more masculine than a lot of the others. We actually had chemistry and hit it off even though he had poor English. But he was very self-conscious about his penis size and even cried about it. It was okay with me because at least he was a man and had one, but he couldn’t be consoled.
I saw a few bw who dated them. Although bm and wm were marrying Korean women in droves (I heard 500 a week or more), a (black) friend of mine wanted to marry her Korean lover but her commander wouldn't allow her to do so. She tried to protest it but was severely disciplined and shipped back to the states. Anywho, a lot of Asians are racist just as whites are. I suspect many wanted to marry to gain citizenship. Black men need to resist the programming and start building a fully black bloodline, but it looks like that’s not happening. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4662
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 02:59 pm: |
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Of course, this is all a sign of things to come. In a hundred years the United States of Babylon will be populated by curly-haired, beige-colored creatures with slanted eyes. They will be great athletes and talented artists and brilliant scholars and formidable soldiers and they will function as software for the robots that will be in control. |
Abm
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Abm
Post Number: 4762
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 03:08 pm: |
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Cynique,
Will those curly-haired, beige-colored human software foks be rescued from the robots by some guy Trip-Hop punker named Neo? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4664
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 03:28 pm: |
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Nope. They won't be batteries. They will be like software that is programmed by the robots. Sorry. No hope for the future of human domination. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4765
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 03:32 pm: |
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Cynique,
What will the robots be doing with the human software? |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4665
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 03:43 pm: |
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The curly-haired beige colored slanted eyed humans will be discreetly inserted into the disk drive of the robots in order to supply the robots with all of their unique human qualities. Whadda ya think. They'll have it all figured out. Cuz they're robots and they know all about such things. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 706
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 03:53 pm: |
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Cynique - I think you have the beginning of a serious sci-fi storyline there. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4666
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 04:16 pm: |
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"Serious" but not original. I would say that I'd like to be around to witness this, but then I'd have to do it on my day off when I wasn't inserted in some robot's disk drive, giving it the benefit of all my unique human qualities. Oh well. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4770
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 04:22 pm: |
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Cynique,
In this brave new future of yours, you think I could sign-up to have my hardware inserted into an anatomically correct and fully-functional robot of Gabrielle Union? |
Grind
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Username: Grind
Post Number: 25
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 04:47 pm: |
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"There are no comparing black women dating interracially with black men dating interracially. None."
Why not? |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2743
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 04:57 pm: |
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To be totally honest, I have seen quite a few Asian men that are a lot more pleasing to the eyes than virtually all of the black men I know personally, and the vast majority of black male superstars I've seen in my lifetime. So how do we judge physical attractiveness? Do we go by what’s visually pleasing? Or do we use the notion of what’s appealing? From what I’ve been observing, it appears that an even greater number of black women go by the notion than black men. But that doesn’t work out for black women. Think about it. If the “notion” of what’s attractive is, “fair” skin = femininity for men. And dark skin = masculinity for women. Many black women are being left out of the equation.
I think black women would be much better off using their vision as their guide because the notion isn‘t in their favor.
And luckily, more non-black men prefer vision over notion. |
Grind
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Username: Grind
Post Number: 27
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 05:53 pm: |
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Tonya,
Was your last post the answer to my question??? |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2744
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 06:04 pm: |
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Sorry Boo.
No, this was the answer to your question: "To have the CORE of your humanity stripped away by none others than your own - IN THIS RACIST SOCIETY - is overkill...and as Kola said: 'It is the *ultimate* betrayal.'"
You think black women should sit aroud for this?
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Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2748
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 06:51 pm: |
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...And to give you an idea of what I mean by CORE. White people took away our humanity, or at least tried. But black men were there to let black women know that, no matter what, they're still women--and vice versa. That togetherness represented--and still represents--our CORE.
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Doberman23
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 419
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 08:30 pm: |
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shemika, you weren't doing what the korean women where willing to do... 70% of military women are unattractive and act like dudes, 85% of statistics are made up right on the spot, and abm... i brought this up loooooong time ago. i bet some of ya'll ladies on here wouldn't know how to act if you stabbed with the egg roll... quit being picky.  |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 2066
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 09:09 pm: |
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There are two incredibly sexy Chinese men at my Bank.
I have a crush on the first one, who Manages my business account, but he's only 22--so I'd never go THAT young. But we flirt, and everytime I go in, I make sure that JAMES is working that day. He sent me a $150 leatherbound business check ledger (*got it free from the back room I'm sure).
The second one is really FOINE and really SEXY...he's the Operations Manager--but he's really supposed to be a "womanizer" according to the first guy, and I believe him.
They BOTH have Chinese girlfriends though.
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It came as a major shock to me that in China--most of the Mandarin men are over 6 feet tall. Both these guys at the bank are well over 6 feet tall and they're really gentlemen, but flirty...especially with black girls....as it seems that black women are the only group of women that EVERYBODY hasn't already been through.
I was SHOCKED to read ESSENCE magazine's story about the growing OVER-abundance of "Black Virgins" in the AA community---women in their 30's and 40's---really pretty women--who've never been fucked. TONS OF THEM!
Teen pregnancy among Black girls is the lowest in the nation....and Black women have become the LEAST Impregnated women in America since 2000.
So among Non-black men, there's a real curiosity about black women--mainly because the vast majority of them are trapped in INNER CITIES or "Black communities" and unlike everybody else....there simply isn't ACCESS to black females.
I mean Chinese men and White men can't just go riding through the hood scouting for "young cocoa treats" the way that all other women are OPEN and FREE and celebrated as prizes.
A very "few" black women go to clubs where Non-Black men are the majority MEN GROUP, so Non-black men mainly encounter black women through Videos, t.v. or what "black men" say about them.
HISTORICALLY....there's this "RAPE THING" hanging over black women and white men, and then you also have the De-femininization from slavery of black women--they were trained to hate themselves and not feel attractive. Black men, unlike white men, have never created a "media type system" to celebrate their women's beauty---so most Black women (especially if they LOOK BLACK/AFRICAN) do not even TRY to be desirable or pretty. The Black men in the black community have already told them that they're "nothing".
Like many AFRICAN women in America--I, Kola, find myself being pulled back by Black American women whenever I enjoy my "sexuality" around men who aren't black or groups of men. I'm not supposed to be "desirable" is the constant message I get from Black American women or "think I'm cute". Black American women have a real problem with me being Topless on the back of my books...or with the EROTICISM in my novels and poems. Only women of other races are supposed to be "OVERTLY SEXUAL". I'm not allowed to smile and play around with "Guys" unless those guys are "brothers".
And as I've seen all my life growing up in Black America....a Black American MALE is the worst brother you could have. UGH. They hate black women--because that's what MAKES them black.
So black women are really TRAPPED in a box, and because they feel so unloved (and ARE so unloved)--they don't know how to stand up for themselves or break free.
For every ABM, Thomas or Kenoly in this world...there's 100 Kobe/O.J.s
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Ntfs_encryption
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Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 268
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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"The curly-haired beige colored slanted eyed humans will be discreetly inserted into the disk drive of the robots in order to supply the robots with all of their unique human qualities. Whadda ya think. They'll have it all figured out. Cuz they're robots and they know all about such things."
Wow! Absolutely brilliant!!! |
Ntfs_encryption
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Ntfs_encryption
Post Number: 269
Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:05 pm: |
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"There are no comparing black women dating interracially with black men dating interracially. None."
Whew..!!! Dang! Hard core! But I wonder why there can be no comparison. Hmmmmmmm....... |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4667
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:19 pm: |
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Well, Kola there is a subtle difference between seductiveness and brazenness. And I suspect that black women have more of a problem with you flaunting yourself around their boyfriends, rather than you vamping men in general. And sometimes men are snickering at rather than flirting with bold women. Once in a while, we need to see ourselves as others see us.
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Prettybabygirl
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Username: Prettybabygirl
Post Number: 328
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:40 pm: |
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I think what Kola was saying, Cynique, is that African American women (not all, but many) are "sexually repressed" in comparison to black women from free countries where the women were never raped, etc.
I think Kola resents it that Madonna can be accepted but not a black woman doing the same thing. White women are "sexually adventurous", black women are "HOs".
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Grind
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Username: Grind
Post Number: 28
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 12:32 am: |
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"Teen pregnancy among Black girls is the lowest in the nation....and Black women have become the LEAST Impregnated women in America since 2000."
Huh? Sources please. |
Fortified
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Username: Fortified
Post Number: 111
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 10:02 am: |
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Asian men meaning Far East Asian or South Asian men as well?
I dated an Arab in the 10th grade and a Eurasian (Polish, East Indian, Japanese mix) when I was in undergrad.
There are TONS of ethnicities of men out there. Everyone keeps on thinking in black and white. Many of men are attracted to black women. Black women need to stop being so damn uptight, and believe that there is love out there for them. |
Roxie
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Username: Roxie
Post Number: 846
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 10:10 am: |
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Let the AM/BW couples come! We need love too, and if the asian guys want us, they got us! It's the black man's loss! |
Roxie
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Username: Roxie
Post Number: 847
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 10:16 am: |
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--"..and Black women have become the LEAST Impregnated women in America since 2000." --
Well gee, that just gives us black girls more time to get our studies and careers going to prepare us for raising a family. And there are many BA orphans that could use some BA mothers. So is being the least impregnated really a bad thing?
We've survived worse, we can survive this.:D |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2751
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 11:38 am: |
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Kola I keep trying to tell sistahs to be more open-minded and get the hell out of the ghetto some times! Believe it or not, white and non-black men are faaar-ar-ar-ar less colorist. The only thing I would add is go the the gym and keep it tight sistahs. They love what we have when it's kept together nicely. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4668
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |
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Boy, Prettybabygirl, you are really inside kola's head, - attached to her at the hip. Guess that's why you can read her mind. yeah, right. I m not buying your contention that African women are sexually liberated because they've never been raped and black American women are inhibited because they have a history of being raped. Black American women are more reserved because there has always been an element of puritanism in the the culture of ex-slaves, and implicit in this was the idea that men slept with the fast hussies but married the "ladylike" ones. As many young black girls as there are, out there shaking their booties, deep down in side, to this day, everyone instinctivly believes that the average black man is more likely to marry a demure girl than a skank.
And I don't know that the media in general gives Madonna a pass. In her attempt to maintain her shocking nasty girl image, she has been held up to ridicule with her middle-aged, muscle bound, childrens book-writing, Khabbala-practicing self. |
Yvettep
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Username: Yvettep
Post Number: 1067
Registered: 01-2005
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When I was at Purdue there was an Asian student (I believe, Korean American) that was an Omega. He never lacked for Black female companionship. Never. He, too, mentioned of his frat bros that their loss was his gain.
There is a lot of discussion in some Asian American communities about the de-masculinization and de-sexualization by the majority culture of Asian men. There is a long history of this, in part orchestrated so lone Chinese men welcomed here to build railroads would keep away from American White women (and vice versa). The scare tactics used about beautiful young (White) girls being caught up in "opium dens" was another part of this.
So, be a little wary if your first reaction to AM/BW is "yuck": You may have been programmed against them just as other groups have been programmed against us.
(BTW, at one point I absolutely positively wanted to marry Bruce Lee, so I may be biased. LOL) |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4778
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 01:52 pm: |
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All,
It's interesting how almost any discussion about interracial coupling (or, hell, virtually ANY form of coupling for that matter) descends into some form of martyrdom of Black women and vilification of Black men. |
Prettybabygirl
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Post Number: 333
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 01:56 pm: |
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That's because black men have the upper hand, by far, ABM.
It's also because we know that someday, "our group" might not exist, and there's a huge part of us, male and female, that ultimately blames "black men".
Other cultures react the same way. White people become protective of white women when they see a bar full of white men with Asian women.
Even you do it sometimes. I've seen you. A lot, actually.
I think it's by instinct. You know that your mother is more yours.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4779
Registered: 04-2004
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Roxie: "Well gee, that just gives us black girls more time to get our studies and careers going to prepare us for raising a family. And there are many BA orphans that could use some BA mothers. So is being the least impregnated really a bad thing? We've survived worse, we can survive this.:D"
The greatest defeat a people can ever experience is that of NOT being born. Educational preparation is important. But we should be careful that we do not reason our way right out of existence. |
Prettybabygirl
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Username: Prettybabygirl
Post Number: 334
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 01:58 pm: |
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Dang, ABM. Did you read my last post to you or what?
You're sounding like Kola Boof and shit now!
You wrote:
The greatest defeat a people can ever experience is that of NOT being born. Educational preparation is important. But we should be careful that we do not reason our way right out of existence.
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Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4780
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:00 pm: |
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PGB,
If there is an identity crises amongst Black men, Black women - especially those who are birthing and raising sons - are as much at fault for such as Black men. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4781
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:04 pm: |
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Tonya: "Believe it or not, white and non-black men are faaar-ar-ar-ar less colorist."
Babe. As I proved within another thread, according to an assessment of the 2000 US Census 96.5 of White Americans have WHITE mates. And we all know it is typically the man who attempts to initiate intimate relations, marriage, etc.
Darling. Do NOT be deceived. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4674
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:14 pm: |
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Fineness didn't bypass Asian men. There are a lot good looking ones out there. The East Indians are very handsome, but they would never marry out side of their ethnicity. And I've always thought there was something sexy about a super smart man, a trait that is particularly prominent among the East Indians. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4786
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:24 pm: |
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Tonya,
American White men are MORE inclined to marry intra-racially than almost any other men. Yet they are LESS colorist than Black men?
Sorry, babe. But that there does NOT compute. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2757
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:24 pm: |
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ABM: sadly, that's still less colorist than black men.
By the way, I said non-black men. And the non-black (including white) men that I know/have met are indeed less colorist. |
Abm
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Username: Abm
Post Number: 4787
Registered: 04-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:33 pm: |
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PGB: "The greatest defeat a people can ever experience is that of NOT being born. Educational preparation is important. But we should be careful that we do not reason our way right out of existence."
I am a father who dearly loves his daughters and am utterly hopeful for them and the world they will inhabit when I am no longer around.
How ELSE could I think and feel? |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2758
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:34 pm: |
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ABM:
No. African American Men are MORE inclined to marry INTER-racially than ANY--not almost--ANY other men. That's what doesn’t compute. White men are marrying interracially at a NORMAL rate. Black men are not--and so that would make Black men more colorist.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much!
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PGB,
But, yes: Kola likely is the inspiration of THAT particular brand of expression. |
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Tonya,
Well. Maybe I'm confused here.
What's our definition here?
If we're arguing that being colorist is desiring that which is White, wouldn't White men marrying White at 97% be much more colorist than Black men marry White at 7% a clip?
But now, if by colorist, you refer to the likelihood that non-White man will marry outside of his/her race, then let's consider the following:
@ “...seven percent of Asian husbands have white wives.”
@ “Currently, six percent of black husbands are in an interracial marriage...”
@ “...a little over 15 percent of Hispanic husbands have non-Hispanic wives.”
http://www.isteve.com/2003_Census_Interracial_Marriage_Gender_Gap.htm
So hey, babe. I hear you. Brothas no-doubt have ishoes But let's at least TRY to be a little fair here. Because solving any problem requires fairly characterizing such.
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Tonya
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Be with you in a second, ABM.
I thought this was pretty interesting so I decided to post it first.
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Myth: 'Sexual Compatibility' spurs gender gap in 'yellow race' out-marriage
There is a stereotype that yellow (Mongoloid) men have smaller sexual organs than white (Caucasoid) men. This 'fact' is often quoted to explain why East Asian women marry white men at a much higher rate than their male counterparts marry white women. This trend is justified by 'White men can give yellow women greater sexual satisfaction, and yellow women with their narrower vaginas can give white men greater sexual satisfaction, but the reverse pairing - yellow man/white women, does not result in the same tight squeeze.'
Why are we supposedly "thinking", "polite" people talking about this stupid topic which is "vulgar" and "not worth a mention"? Because a lot of people have these ideas but they are afraid to talk about them, hence the racism and bigotry behind these ideas remain unchallenged. We may not want to talk about these ridiculous views, but that doesn't mean we don't believe them. So we will spend time talking about the ridiculous instead of sweeping it under the carpet because this ridiculousness has had a negative impact on the lives of yellow men long enough.
A) Now let's assume for the sake of argument that this stupid stereotype about yellow men's penis size is relevant in non-Asian's interracial dating choices 1) Excuse goes "poof" when you bring black men and other non-white men into the picture
Some East Asian women who date white men say they prefer white men because of white men's bigger penises. But when asked why they don't date black men, who, according to stereotypes, have even bigger penises, they are either stricken with silence, or say flat out they won't consider dating black men because of their own racism or the racism of their families.
If stereotypes of penis size is such a big deal to yellow women, then black men should be the most desirable, not white men. Assuming that the "fair" standard to judge men is penis size, the fact that yellow women are disproportionately with white men compared to black men, even taking into account black-white population ratios, shows the white skin color is still preferable over larger penises. This means that yellow women are racist, and contradicts the idea that yellow women prefer big penises. "Big penis" is just an excuse to date white men over yellow men. But when presented with black men, penis size suddenly does NOT matter to yellow women.
The discrepancy is even greater when you bring in hordes of other non-Mongoloid men, e.g. non-white Caucasians like Arabs, Indians etc. You don't see yellow women chasing after them in droves.
2) Stereotype falls flat when you bring non-Asian Mongoloid men into the picture
If smaller penis size is a "natural" characteristic of the Mongoloid type, then why do other "yellow" types like the Native American and the Pacific Islander not tarred with the same stereotype? They are Mongoloid like East Asians and Southeast Asians. But in contrast, Native American and Pacific Islander men are typed as virile warriors and hunters by white media. Of course size of sexual organs has nothing to do with virility, but white men and black men who put down Mongoloid Asian men always correlate the two. If this has any "biological fact", then all Mongoloids should be typed the same by popular perception, but they are not.
Penis-size does not matter, say non-yellow women!
White woman: actually guys with smaller penises are better in bed because they make more effort to please you. Guys with big penises think all they have to do is be big. Black woman: I like Asian guys because they are more considerate of my pleasure in bed. And size does not matter when it comes to Asian guys!
B) Now let's assume for the sake of argument that this stupid stereotype about yellow women's tight vaginas is relevant in non-Asian's interracial dating choices: 1) If tightness is so important to you, you can a) Get a short white woman, b) Buy a toy c) Get a man.
Men all over the world have long boasted about being tighter than women and being able to provide better sex for other men. If none of these options appeal to you, then perhaps "tight orifices" are not that important to you after all. Or is it something else about yellow women that you want?
2) Can the desire for "young-looking", "tight", and small-framed Asian women actually be displaced pedophilia? White woman: I have a brother who is 6'2", and the disturbing thing about him is he dates only waifish women who are about 5 feet tall. I always wonder why he doesn't date taller women. I can't help thinking he has a kind of latent desire for young girls.
Filipina woman: there are a lot of white tourists in the Philippines who go there because the women look like children, by white standards. They grope women, even those who are not sex workers, in public places. It is very disgusting. They can have sex with women who look like children over there because it is legal since the women are actually adults. C) How did these stupid stereotypes come about?
Generally smaller people will have smaller sexual organs, and smaller brains. Americans like to compare short East Asian men against tall men of West African and European descent. But what about comparing Pacific Islanders (who, like East Asians, are Mongoloid) against short Africans or Europeans?
The modern American stereotype of Asians having small penises sounds suspiciously like the past stereotype of blacks having smaller brains. A racist white American physician deliberately stacked his "research samples" with tall Europeans and short people of color to achieve the "statistics" of people of color having smaller cranium sizes than Europeans. For how the "racial brain size difference" theory has been debunked, see Alleged Differences in Brain Size between the Races.
But just as smaller brains don't necessarily correlate with intelligence (the dinosaurs had far bigger brains than humans - the question is in body size vs. brain size), smaller sexual organs don't necessarily correlate with performance.
Non-yellow men have deliberately perpetuated stereotypes against yellow men, and we do it everyday in all areas of life, if not openly, subtly. I suspect that when we compare a yellow man and a black/white man of the same height, the allegedly racial physical differences will be minimal.
http://www.colorq.org/petsins/article.asp?y=2002&m=11&x=11_10
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Yes please - sources on the teen pregnancy rates!
I think that is good news. The girls can get pregnant in their 20s. S'ok, they have time.
Oh and Mzuri - the arm chewing - too funny.
I'm with you - brother's rule!
The media helps the brothers image (sports) like it helps the Asian women's image (geishas, willow women, whatever). In real life they don't seem to be near as docile as they make them out to be in the media.
I met this brother who said his dreamgirl was an Asian woman with a butt. I told him when he finds her . . . She's gonna cost him a lot of money! |
Abm
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Tonya,
I think the vast majority of women - Black, White, Yellow or Brown - have and would NOT use penis size to determine whether or not a man is worthy of marrying. I think, at best, the issue of penis size either enhances or diminishes much more important elements of a man's behavior, character and person.
Likewise, I don't think most men are as concerned and obsessed with acquiring a woman who has a tight vagina that they'll forego considering other things about her.
And I really have ZERO idea about how small the sex organs are of Asian people (Well. There was this Korean chick I used to, uh, hmmmmm....Scratch that!)
Femrenoir: "I met this brother who said his dreamgirl was an Asian woman with a butt. I told him when he finds her . . . She's gonna cost him a lot of money!"
Yeah. Probably because he'll have to pay a small fortune to have one safely implanted into her.
Hahahahaha!!! |
Cynique
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If you'd take a survey of single women and ask them if size matters, they'd respond with a resounding "YES!" Having a job and a car, however, can compensate for other "shortcomings". heh-heh. |
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I know ABM. Penis size is actually the last thing on a woman's mind when she's looking for a SERIOUS relationship. And who ever heard of Asian women & tight vaginas?? These myths are ridiculous!!
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I couldn't find a credible link to back my claim but, ABM, you know that black men are NOW dating, marrying and cohabitating interracially at a much higher pace than other men. They have not yet caught up with other men in terms of numbers, perhaps, but right now they're outpacing all others. And it's not fair to go by marriage since most black men settle for live-in relationships instead of marrying. The number of bm/ww cohabitation is half that of bm/ww marriage (US census 2000 PHC-T-19). |
Abm
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Tonya,
Is it being asserted that Asian women have proportionately smaller vaginas? Or because Asian women are often smaller than other women, it is presumed by men that their vaginas would be proportionately smaller.
Btw: I've never EVER considered such a thing during my punechasin' days. Big a$$? Sure. Great rack? You bet!. But proportionately smaller coochie? Huh?
"Currently, six percent of black husbands are in an interracial marriage, compared to only two percent of black wives. (Fourteen percent of black men who are cohabitating without marriage have a white woman living with them, while only three percent of cohabitating black women live with a white man."
http://www.isteve.com/2003_Census_Interracial_Marriage_Gender_Gap.htm
So, yes I agree with you that non-marital cohabitation should be considered within this discussion. |
Mzuri
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Is you crazy? A man's penis size is one of the main considerations. Why would a woman marry a man that can't keep her satisfied? |
Tonya
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Mzuri - a serious relationship?!? Haven't you ever fallen for a guy before even thinking about sex or his penis? Be honest.
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Mzuri
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No. I like sex too much. That is a critical element for me. It’s just as easy to marry a rich man as a poor man, right? But whatever turns you on is fine with me. |
Prettybabygirl
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I've had some "smaller" penis guys who turned my ass out. Yes, using their penis.
Just being honest.
I'm more of a "tongue length" girl myself.
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Tonya
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"It’s just as easy to marry a rich man as a poor man, right?"
I've fallen for several poor men, one dirt poor, but I see your point.
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Brownbeauty123
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So if a man's penis is bigger the sex is supposed to feel better?
I heard that it didn't make a difference since the vagina doesn't have that many nerve endings or some crap like that
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The old ladies used to say, 'it's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean'
That said, Mzuri's mean eat 'rocks' which means they must be packing the cigarette boat kind of pounding you can't get from a canoe.
Yea girl, I hear you.
ABM too funny about the booty implant and the 'smaller coochie? Huh?' and, a relief.
Last thing we need is an Asian tight pu$$y mystique to draw more brothers out of the dating pool. |
Abm
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Mzuri,
I think if a man is satisfying a woman in/out of the bed, she'll probably be able to look past his lack of phallic girth.
Just as I'm sure many men love and marry women who have, uh, larger cQQchies.
Femrenoir,
I suspect that brotha who seeks to date an Asian woman primarily because he thinks Sun Yi's got a smaller, tighter pu$$y might be quite UNPLEASANTLY surprised. |
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"Kola I keep trying to tell sistahs to be more open-minded and get the hell out of the ghetto some times! Believe it or not, white and non-black men are faaar-ar-ar-ar less colorist. The only thing I would add is go the the gym and keep it tight sistahs. They love what we have when it's kept together nicely."
Very good point. I agree. And to be quite frank, that is a major problem I see with black women (as a group). They do not put time in the gym nor incorporate any type of major physical fitness into their lifestyles. I see white women. Filipinas and a few Latinas in the gym all the time. There is not one day –NOT ONE, where I do not see white females jogging, cycling or in the gym working out. When I go to the organic food marts, open farmers marts (where fresh vegetables and fruits are sold at very cheap prices) or so called health stores or countless 5K, 10K and 25K runs, I see all types of women. But rarely do I see black women. Why?
Unfortunately, black women (as a group) do not take care of themselves as they should. The major physical problems that black women face (over weight, obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and high blood pressure) can be controlled or curtailed if they made an effort to make their health and fitness a major priority. It’s very disheartening. I have no idea why they refuse to do so.
But as you have pointed out, there are men of other races and ethnicities who are open to relationships with black women. I see Latino and white men with average to not so average (less than to be exact) black women every day. Why? They certainly are not with them for looks or money. Something to think about.
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Nfts,
were the gyms you went to placed in white neighborhoods? Maybe that's why you didn't see many women of color.
I am a member at Bally's in a Black neighborhood and it's 98% African American. The employees are all Black, too.
Not to mention I walk/jog 5 days a week for an hour on my treadmill at home. |
Prettybabygirl
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I go to a black gym as well.
Ditto Ballys.
It's packed with mostly toned black women, and one thing I can honestly brag about is my own six pack and "backside".
I don't know what the hell Nfts is talking about.
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Abm
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Ntfs,
The LEAST healthy and fit of all Americans are Black MEN. |
Kola_boof
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But not my ABM:
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Mzuri
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I think if a man is satisfying a woman in/out of the bed, she'll probably be able to look past his lack of phallic girth.
What are you saying, exactly, ABM? Please don't tell me that you aren't well endowed.
And BTW, I need length and girth. I gotta have it all!!! |
Abm
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Mzuri: "What are you saying, exactly, ABM? Please don't tell me that you aren't well endowed."
Is this the part whereby I must declare some phallic endowments and sexual facilities that you'll never have the pleasure of enjoying? |
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"white and non-black men are faaar-ar-ar-ar less colorist."
I'm not exactly sure what "colorist" means in this context (or any context for that matter), but are you saying that non-black men are more attracted to dark skinned black women than black men? |
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Yes, ABM. Do tell. |
Kola_boof
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but are you saying that non-black men are more attracted to dark skinned black women than black men?
Yes, as a black African woman I think that's VERY true.
At least in America.
Latin and White men will caress and moan over our "cocoa fine skin" all day long...they claim they just want to "lick" that pretty chocolate tummy...STUFF LIKE THAT.
White man is apt to say often, "Your skin is so fucking gorgeous."
Black man won't look twice, because he hates his own dark skin.
BET brainwashes the younger black male generation to where they can't see how pretty a black woman is. She's not "lightskinned or biracial"---she's not even a woman.
Black men DENY colorism even exits (because of their shame and guilt).
We all lose.
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Oh, and GRIND...
The term "I don't haul no coal" can be found in COUNTLESS black historical novels, journals and other records of Black men hating black women in the late 1800's to the 1930's.
I'm damned sure you know what black men think about blue black women and high yallers and redbones.
Being colorstruck has basically been a Black man's RIGHT OF PASSAGE since slavery ended.
Only in the last 30 years--because of Black women LIGHT and dark---has the issue been very slowly exposed.
It's just racism and blacks acting out the role of their slave master.
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Tonya
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Grind:
"white and non-black men are faaar-ar-ar-ar less colorist."
I'm not exactly sure what "colorist" means in this context (or any context for that matter), but are you saying that non-black men are more attracted to dark skinned black women than black men?
Tonya:
I cosign on EVERY BIT of what kola just said, Grind. |
Tonya
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And COLORIST is not a term the man anointed yet so of course you have a problem with it.
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Latin and White men will caress and moan over our "cocoa fine skin" all day long...they claim they just want to "lick" that pretty chocolate tummy...STUFF LIKE THAT.
These non-black men fetishize black skin because it's "exotic" to them. Do you think these same guys, if they were fucking a white woman or Latina, would ooooh and ahhhh over the woman's skin color (which is the same as theirs)? Get real.
Further, there are plenty of black men who fetishize white skin in much the same way, but I doubt that you look at so THAT fetish so favorably.
White man is apt to say often, "Your skin is so fucking gorgeous."
Kola, I'm convinced you live on a different planet from me. I see black men hitting on or flirting with dark black women DAILY. I rarely ever see white or Latino men with black women. The Census seems to confirm my view of reality, as they report that 94% of married black men are married to black women, while less than 1 percent of married white men are. Further, the only black female celebs I've EVER heard large numbers of white men praise have been light skinned and/or with whitish features (Beyonce, Whitney Houston, Vanesssa Williams, etc.). I don't remember white guys lusting over Lauryn Hill like black men did.
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And COLORIST is not a term the man anointed yet so of course you have a problem with it.
Tonya,
I don't have a "problem" with it, so much as I don't understand it. Why don't you help me out by giving me a dictionary worthy definition. TIA. |
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Oh, and GRIND...
The term "I don't haul no coal" can be found in COUNTLESS black historical novels, journals and other records of Black men hating black women in the late 1800's to the 1930's.
Can you point me to some non-fiction sources that reference this saying? I'm really curious about this.
I'm damned sure you know what black men think about blue black women and high yallers and redbones.
Yeah, and I also know what black women think about blue black men, as well as what they think about "high yaller" guys with "good hair."
Nonetheless, most black men I see are with women who are roughly their complexion. |
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And as for Latin men, anyone in Brazil or Cuba will tell you that the MULATA is queen down there:
"Blanca para casar, negra para trabajar, mulata para fornicar"
That sounds pretty "colorist" (to the extent that I understand the word) to me. |
Kola_boof
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GRIND,
You don't live in California---which IS another planet and you know that---so you need to stop the bullshit.
I am not talking about men in GEORGIA, as I live EXCLUSIVELY on the West Coast and am involved in the Entertainment Industry.
From the SPORTS INDUSTRY---Mike Tyson gave me $7 grand to rescue my son to private school and I've danced all night with Karl Malone and been pursued for dates by former Cowboy Michael Irving----so I am talking as an "insider" about a WORLD of COLORISM that is far removed from yours.
Although you know damned well what I'm talking about--because you watch BET and listen to the lyrics of Hip Hop music and know everything else that black women know.
Like most chumps, you just want to sit in DENIAL.
You need to stop talking to me quick, BRO.
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Kola_boof
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SOURCES for GRIND:
Angela Davis's last 2 books on black women blues singers and black feminism.
Wallace Thurman's 1929 book, "The Blacker the Berry"---which you REALLY OUGHT TO READ.
There are countless others containing "I don't haul no coal"--and how this saying among black men came about as "blue black women" (which was the majority black woman before the 1920s) were demonized for making the race ....so dark.
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You don't live in California---which IS another planet and you know that---so you need to stop the bullshit.
I am not talking about men in GEORGIA, as I live EXCLUSIVELY on the West Coast and am involved in the Entertainment Industry.
In other words, you're speaking from a perspective that very few blacks would recognize (ie where black women are pursused more by white and latino men than black men). Fair enough.
so I am talking as an "insider" about a WORLD of COLORISM that is far removed from yours.
Indeed, far removed from my world, as well as 99.99% of black America.
Although you know damned well what I'm talking about--because you watch BET and listen to the lyrics of Hip Hop music and know everything else that black women know.
I rarely watch TV, and don't listen to much hiphop nowadays, but I do recognize that, in general, black men do have a preference for lighter women. I have NEVER denied that. But when you make ridiculous statements like "non-black men are more attracted to black women than black men," well, no I don't know "damned well" what you're talking about. Like it or not, black men are the biggest fans black women have. |
Grind
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Kola,
I'll check out those books by Davis, thank you.
There are countless others containing "I don't haul no coal"--and how this saying among black men came about as "blue black women" (which was the majority black woman before the 1920s) were demonized for making the race ....so dark.
Curiously, Kola, genetic studies show that the overwhelming majority of American blacks' white admixture is along the male line, which means that if blacks are significantly whiter than we were in the 20s, it's mostly been due to black women chosing whiter mates.
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Kola_boof
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You are SOOOOO fulla shit. Don't even talk to me.
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Kola_boof
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You think I haven't been to plenty of family bar-g-que's...all my life?
I was raised in Washington D.C. and Virginia on dark skinned men and their MOSTLY redbone and high yellow mates.
Dark skinned black women were something you saw in "groups"--often without men.
So don't even talk your shit to me, because now you're pissing me off.
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Grind
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Kola,
I'm sorry, "mates" was the wrong word. I meant sexual partners. The overwhelming majority of blacks' white admixture comes from black women bearing the children of lighter/whiter men. |
Tonya
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How segregated by race and color are black folks down there in the state of GEORGIA, Grind?
Because from what I understand, black men are much less likely to date/marry high yellow, biracial, white/non-black women when they don't have the money/opportunity/access. |
Ntfs_encryption
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"Because from what I understand, black men are much less likely to date/marry high yellow, biracial, white/non-black women when they don't have the money/opportunity/access."
Why is that..? |
Abm
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Ntfs,
Because "yellow, biracial, white/non-black women" - like ALL other women - would prefer their men have money, power and influence. And assuming lighter-skinned women are pursued more, they're more able to select the more preferred Black men. |
Tonya
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Yep. And to add to that, ABM, notice that they are not at all that capable when it comes to the men of their own race/color. When yellow, biracial, white/non-black women date/marry men of their own race/color, the men are usually poor...or on the same level (money, power and influence) as they are. |
Serenasailor
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How segregated by race and color are black folks down there in the state of GEORGIA, Grind?
Because from what I understand, black men are much less likely to date/marry high yellow, biracial, white/non-black women when they don't have the money/opportunity/access.
Is this true? My parents are both from the ATL and all of my family lives down there. My father is a High Yellow Indian looking man and my mother is a Dark-skinned West African looking women.
Is Colorism that bad in the deep south? Do lighter-skinned Blacks and Darker Skinned Blacks really separate each other like that in Atlanta? I want to know because I am considering moving back out there.
My parents always deny to me that Colorism really exist down there. But I want to know is it really that big of a problem down there? |
Grind
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How segregated by race and color are black folks down there in the state of GEORGIA, Grind?
I actually live in Alabama, not Georgia.
Because from what I understand, black men are much less likely to date/marry high yellow, biracial, white/non-black women when they don't have the money/opportunity/access.
I can't speak on the entire region, but the city where I live is partially segregated: about 1/2 the city is nearly 100% white and the other half is mixed black and white (and sometimes mexican). The white and mixed halves are conveniently divided by highways.
The white half is mostly affluent (by the standards of this area, anyway), while the mixed half is mostly poor to working class (with a few well-to-do black areas). BM/WF couples are extremely common in the mixed section, an everyday sight. The black males and white females in these pairings are almost exclusively lower class. I'm not sure what role money plays in these relationships.
I can't comment on high yellows, as there are so few of them here. Same for biracials (adults, that is; there are actually lots of biracial children around). |
Ntfs_encryption
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"Because "yellow, biracial, white/non-black women" - like ALL other women - would prefer their men have money, power and influence. And assuming lighter-skinned women are pursued more, they're more able to select the more preferred Black men.'
Hmmmmmmm.....otay! |
Caprical
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"Further, the only black female celebs I've EVER heard large numbers of white men praise have been light skinned and/or with whitish features (Beyonce, Whitney Houston, Vanesssa Williams, etc.). I don't remember white guys lusting over Lauryn Hill like black men did. "
this is such BS and you know it,
most of the women i've seen white men ooohh and ahh over were darker...i've heard white men go on and on about naomi campbell, alek wek, and janet jackson (who is brown skinned)....in fact i've NEVER heard them oohh and ahh over vanessa williams...and whitney houston is brown skinend not light skinned.
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Brownbeauty123
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Caprical, the original poster never said that Whitney Houston was lightskinned.
and Janet Jackson is a poor example, she has had worked done to look LESS Black--one being her nose. |
Caprical
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Grind
more white men are attracted to black women than you think....the thing i've heard from most white men is that they think black women either hate them or aren't attracted to THEM. I've heard this COUNTLESS times from white men who said they avoided approaching black women because they felt black women wanted nothing to do with white men. They also claimed black women were likely to give them attitude if they approached them.
there was also an interracial pole donethat showed black women were the most resistant out of any group to interracial relationships, even for themselves. So, white men are actually more interested in interracial dating than black women are. The same can be said of asian men...i've also heard asina men say the same thing about thinking black women dont find them attractive and therefore they were hesitant aobut approaching black women.
Plus don't you thinik that if black women REALLY and TRUELY wanted white men they could all have one? Especially when you consider the population size of black women compared to white men in america. Black women only represent aobut 9% of the american population while whites represent 60%. If just about 5% of white men are interested in dating black women there would be enough white men to go around for black women. But the thing is, most black women simply prefer black men.
so simply put the issue is not white men not finding black women attractive it's the other way around. Plus most black women are rasied to beleive in the honor of the black male and to believe that the black man is the best.
Why do you think when it comes to black prostitutes most of their johns are white, middle class, married men with families? It's more complicated than you think.
Now latinos are a different story...they tend to be TRUELY racist. White men are racist but they are racist because they have an AGENDA which is for their race to stay on top. In other words white men dont always buy into the very racism they perpetuate....they simply put out lies in order to stay on top of everyone....Latino's on the other hand tend to TRUELY beleive in their own racism. I'm sure there are acceptions in every case but this has jsut been what i've witnessed my whole life.
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Caprical
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Brownbeauty, before janet had the work dsone on her nose, white men along with black men were drooling over her even more because she was younger back then.her nose jobs are pretty recent. |
Caprical
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oh and to add to my first post her, i've also seen alot of white men drool over serena and venus...in fact most of thhe black women i've seen them talk on and on about were dark skinned (with the exclusion of halle berry)and a FEW of them mnention beyonce |
Brownbeauty123
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You mean her most recent to date, nose job ?
Cause she has had A LOT of work done, spanning throughout her entire career. |
Caprical
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im talking about the janet jackson from the 80s before she had anyhtng done. She didnt have a nose job in the 80s |
Mayaa1111
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what a load of crap |
Mayaa1111
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I am a black femaile living in England. I've come acros this forum because I'm about to marry my asian bf. I am very sad to see other black females diss eachother. black people are all the same regardles if we are African or American. Are we forgeting that all balckpeople originally come from Africa. It just goes to show how much us black people enjoy fighting against eachother. my other point is this. How can any respectable female consider a partner based on the size of his manhood? How about wether he's a nice person? would he make a great father to your children? or would he make a nice husband? And what this crap about blackwomen should stick to blackmen. God made this beautiful earth with loads of different people. We are free to date who ever we choose. I don't go around thinking I can and can't do thing cuz I'm black. I really think black female in particular should go around with their head held high and a smile on their faces. We have gone around looking miserable and unwanted for far too long. We are desirable women whom many reaces want to date but are put off my our attitude. I get chatted up by men from all walks of life and I don't descriminate either.
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Mayaa1111
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I've always been really attracted to asian guys from a young age. I was born in Jamaica where there's a large number of Chinese and Indian people among other races. I don't date white guys cuz I really canot be with someone who's ancesters kept my people as slaves. I also don't date pakistanis cuz they all want a black waman with a big booty but would never marry us and cannot take us home to meet mama.
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