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Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 268
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 09:42 pm: | 
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Not trying to make this into a light hearted or comical thread but seriously..
do you think individuals who are transgendered should be accepted into society?
I'm starting to see more reality shows, and programs centered around transgendered individuals who so badly want to be taken seriously.
they even want to adopt kids and raise a family..
What are your opinions? |
Batmocop
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 11:29 pm: |
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I think it's SCARY!!! It's one thing to want to be accepted in a society and be lauded for your differences. But a child is way to impressionable not to get all screwed up by the the life choices of people whose lifestyle doesn't lend to a traditional upbringing that will allow the child a chance to live a "Normal" life. (Whew I ran out of breath on that one)
BatMo-> |
Doberman23
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Post Number: 364
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 01:17 am: |
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i think it's disgusting, my girl always gets mad at me when i talk about them but i don't care. i guess i wouldn't hate on gay people as much if they quit trying to force their gayness into everyone's face ... but my biggest issue with these homos is when they start comparing their struggle with the civil rights era. tranny's also need to stop thinking people are supposed to help them pay for their operations too ... if i where a surgeon i wouldn't do that no matter how much they paid me. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 2239
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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I think with the way things are going they better start getting on the down low--maybe establishing their own communities and moving away or something.
I wonder have any of them seen what is going on in Congress this week?
They are a tiny minority in a society that is looking for somebody to pick on. America is not getting broader minded, it is narrowing. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 462
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 7 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:35 pm: |
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Wow!! You black ppl sure are so damn Homophobic. No wonder why so many BM are on the DL. SHAME ON YOU!!!!! You are the reason why H.I.V/A.I.D.S is ravishing our communities. You guys are idiots!!!!Secondly BATMOCOP(That name sounds gay anyway) What exactly is normal in the black community. You think that selling drugs, Having five different baby mamas, not being literate, and living off of welfare is normal?
YOU PPL NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER!! A black man/woman is our brother/sister no matter who they sleep with. And Doberman everybody know that the most homophobic ppl are gay themselves and are just trying to hide it. So maybe you have a secret that you don't want your girlfriend to know about. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 4489
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:36 pm: |
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I sympathize with these poor mixed-up souls. I've always felt that I was a millionaire trapped in a hundredaire's body. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 464
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:44 pm: |
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think it's disgusting, my girl always gets mad at me when i talk about them but i don't care. i guess i wouldn't hate on gay people as much if they quit trying to force their gayness into everyone's face ... but my biggest issue with these homos is when they start comparing their struggle with the civil rights era. tranny's also need to stop thinking people are supposed to help them pay for their operations too ... if i where a surgeon i wouldn't do that no matter how much they paid me.
You simple-minded Negroes |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2608
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:02 pm: |
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See, this is why I love you soooo much, Serenasailor! Love you boy!
Cynique, ROTFLOL!!!
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Zuriburi
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Username: Zuriburi
Post Number: 139
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:14 pm: |
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Yeah, he da man. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 467
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 05:46 pm: |
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I'M GAY AND I FIND YOU VERY ATTRACTIVE DOBERMAN!!! MAYBE BATMOCOP, DOBERMAN, AND I CAN MAYBE GET TOGETHER ONE DAY AND HAVE HOT, SWEATY, SEX. NO ONE HAS TO KNOW I WON'T TELL!! |
Batmocop
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Post Number: 47
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:00 pm: |
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"YOU PPL NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER!! A black man/woman is our brother/sister no matter who they sleep with."
Once again we have the classic can't hear Sh*T but what we want to hear! It aint about the trans genders it's about the kids. And there is a HUGE difference between Gay and Transexual. If you are Gay SSailer then do your thing I can't do nothin 4 ya. Talk about simple minded! Dobes you were right I guess sticking to the point aint necesary!!! |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 272
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:06 pm: |
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LOL
No one think that it's rather "weird" for a male dressed up as a woman to raise a child.
Can you really work alongside some drag queen in a corporate setting and take this person seriously?? |
Rustang
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Post Number: 385
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:18 pm: |
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People certainly have a right to any opinion that they choose, but one should keep in mind that any argument in favor of rejecting the transgendered could also be applied to niggers, spics, jews, etc..Anyone that another person would consider to be one of 'those people' can be dehumanized and dismissed by vague accusations of 'sick' or 'weird' or 'contrary to the will of god'.Are we working towards having society not do that to us just so we can pick out an even smaller minority that is even more disenfranchised to do that to? Personally, that isn't really a program that I would be able to get on board with, but, to each his own, I guess. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 468
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:18 pm: |
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Actually, Doberman did lump gay ppl and Tansgender ppl together. Also, Brownbeauty many used to think the same thing about Black ppl. There was a time when many white ppl felt very uncomfortable living/working around a black person.
They wouldn't take a black person serious because they thought that we were childlike, dumb, and violent. And judging by many of the post in this room they weren't "far off the mark". |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 469
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:22 pm: |
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Here's a question. Doberman, how many gay people do you know personally that have tried to push their "lifestyle" in your face? In fact how many gay people do you know personally? And I'm not talking about the ones that you see on T.V, or the rumored gay guy that lives down the street who might not be gay but just be happy being single. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 470
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:25 pm: |
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People certainly have a right to any opinion that they choose, but one should keep in mind that any argument in favor of rejecting the transgendered could also be applied to niggers, spics, jews, etc..Anyone that another person would consider to be one of 'those people' can be dehumanized and dismissed by vague accusations of 'sick' or 'weird' or 'contrary to the will of god'.Are we working towards having society not do that to us just so we can pick out an even smaller minority that is even more disenfranchised to do that to? Personally, that isn't really a program that I would be able to get on board with, but, to each his own, I guess.
It seems that we do agree on something. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4491
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:35 pm: |
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Are you really gay, Serenasailor? Or you trying to make a point? You come out of so many bags, it's hard to keep up with your positions. Moreover, I'm surprised that a person like you who has such a capacity for hate would be so outraged by the intolerance of others. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 471
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My sexuality is my business. However, I don't tolerate black on black hatred. No matter what the excuse is. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 4492
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 08:10 pm: |
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Puleeze, serenasailor. You hold other blacks in great contempt if they don't agree with you, so you might as well hate em. You certainly have no love lost for Doberman. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2611
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 08:34 pm: |
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Rustang & Serenasailor, man, you guys are music to my ears! Funny how you stay at each other's necks---you are two of the wisest men many of us know.
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Renata
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Post Number: 1081
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 09:32 pm: |
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Serenasailor....have I told you that I love you today? |
Fortified
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:25 pm: |
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Governments are using the "War on Homosexuality" to keep the religious vote and divert our attention away from more important matters (foreign policy, poverty, poor education, etc.) |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 476
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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Governments are using the "War on Homosexuality" to keep the religious vote and divert our attention away from more important matters (foreign policy, poverty, poor education, etc.)
Not to mention the failed War in Iraq |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 366
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 02:14 am: |
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IF YOU THINK SOMEONE MAY NOT LIKE YOUR LIFESTYLE AND YOU POST IT BE PREPAIRED FOR WHAT YOU GET.
and now the rebutal:
homophobic would mean that i'm scared of homos, well i'm not. you see serenasailor, little gay bitches like you have aids becuase you are like that idiot who just hopped into that lions cage the other day... you are fucking around with the natural process of nature and it's natures way of giving you what you deserve when you fuck around like that. (of course you'll bring up africans who have been hit by the disease, but i don't think they got it the same way as ppl like you...and they don't deserve it)
now you wrote: And Doberman everybody know that the most homophobic ppl are gay themselves and are just trying to hide it. So maybe you have a secret that you don't want your girlfriend to know about.
we all know that this is statement made by little sissies like yourself that is almost as bad as "i'm rubber your glue...etc." believe it or not, alot of people don't like your life style serenasailor ... and i'm one of them. Unlike you, I love women I don't love to be one of them.
you where whining even more when you said: Actually, Doberman did lump gay ppl and Tansgender ppl together. well serena ...Trannies are people who have this snipped here and that added there... serenasailor if you put sugar ontop of shit that doesn't mean it's something sweet .. it's still shit. Show me one trannie who isn't gay, if it's a man who "turns" himself into a woman and now dates men guess what ... he's still commiting homosexual activities when he's with another guy and if it is with someone who doesn't know whats going on... they (the trannie) may get their gay ass killed, and deservingly so.
serenasailor your little bitch ass also asked: Here's a question. Doberman, how many gay people do you know personally that have tried to push their "lifestyle" in your face? In fact how many gay people do you know personally?
well you punk ass pickle kisser, i have a fine arts degree from a major university so let's just say the art department had it's fair share. did they try to push their lifestyle in my face..nope...does prime time t.v. ...yes.. i can not go one single night without at least some gay reference popping up on at least one show... with the exception of espn (thank god for that). keep your shit to yourself, it's not like people don't know that your gay, it's when you start getting all flamboyantly loud and annoying that i want to throw you out the window. I don't fight for your cause and i don't believe in it. If you have a job then do your job and shut the fuck up, no need to out yourself... everyone will just try to ignore that your a fucked up individual and go about there business too. You are kidding yourself if you think this lifestyle of yours is something normal. this gay phenomenon reminds of when the raido played the spice girls every second of the day and I was in the field and had no other radio station to pick up... it's forced on me... and til this day i know that spice girl shit before i hear them belt out one lyric. this time i can turn away from something i don't want shoved on me.
and as far as should you be able to raise kids ... it should definitly be a last dish effort.
Now it's my turn to start bringing a little fire your way serenasailor... you have the nerves to talk shit about when a black man get's with a woman of another race, but you find it more than acceptable for two black men to get with one another?
you have an infatuation with hate aimed at your own brother because he married a latino chick and has mixed race children ... which are your blood, which you look down on because they aren't 100% black ... (which might i ad none of us really are) is it because you wanted to have his kid or something? you wanted to keep that in the family and your brother told you that you needed help?
i think it's funny that you stated "I don't tolerate black on black hatred. No matter what the excuse is." because you serenasailor are an excellent example of what hatred turly is.
that's a wrap for now serenasailor... now i suggest you start downing some midol like they where skittles and don't ask people's a oppinons on shit if you can't handle it ... have a nice day buddy  |
Anunaki3600
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Post Number: 171
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 05:19 am: |
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I knew of a really smart (almost genius) man (Jewish) in L.A. who was a single parent (had a son) fell in love with a black woman. Later he changed into a woman through surgery and now has a lesbian relation with the same black woman. Anything is possible. |
Zuriburi
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Post Number: 146
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 07:56 am: |
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Rustang, I love the simple irrefutable eloquence of your response. Permission to plagiarize?
Doberman = idiot drone
Nuf said. |
Cynique
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Post Number: 4496
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:19 am: |
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Doberman is voicing a very popular point of view, held by a great percentage of Americans. This does not make him an idiot. It might make him insensitive but we all have our shortcomings. Just ask Serensailor. A great source of wisdom and intellect? No way. He is very simplistic in his subjective views and also quite selective in his tolerance quotient. He hates all white and mixed people. The idea that he is in a class with Rustang is ridiculous. BTW, I confess to being prejudiced, myself. I just like Doberman. He is sincere and honest and charmingly self-deprecating. Serenasailor is a big bore. |
Moonsigns
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Post Number: 1170
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:41 am: |
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I think the whole concept of one desiring to be transgender is totally bizarre, but I also believe that people have the right to choose how they want to live as individuals. However, I don't believe it's healthy for children to be raised by transgendered individuals/couples. And while I know there are many heterosexual(s) couples/singles raising children who are not in stable relationships that are beneficial for their offspring, I think that a heterosexual couple in a healthy, committed marriage is the best (and most natural) environment for raising children.
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Moonsigns
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Post Number: 1171
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:06 am: |
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I also happen to work with two transgendered individuals, and the company I work for supports "diversity" in every way imaginable. For this reason, I feel that they are incredibly flamboyant about being transgendered--much more than if they were working for a conservative company. On one occassion, one of my supervisors pulled me aside because I, by accident, in a meeting, referred to one my transgendered co-workers as "her" instead of "him". Naturally, I apologized because I don't want to be disrespectful to anyone. However, in my defense, I asked my supervisor to consider how strange it is to refer to this particular co-worker as a male when I see "her" in the "ladies" restroom asking me for a feminine hygiene products (I mean, WTF?!?!?!?!?!!!!). My supervisor was speechless--and I thought it was phuckin' hysterical!!!! I guess all his "diversity" training didn't prepare his ass for that!
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2244
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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Black people are not in control of America.
Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson are in control of America. Outside New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco transgendered people move and live at their peril.
All the folks talking big talk on here about how Black people are homophobic, etc. are posting under fake names. Would you go out on front street--take out an ad, join a march, confront these yahoos when they are out demonstrating at a soldier's funeral saying that he has been killed because America is awash in homosexuality?
I don't think so which is why this will mostly be internet talk. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 2245
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |
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http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=142499
This is the way the wind is blowing. The last I heard Macy's was not a black owned company.
How many of you are going to give Macy's hell using your real names in letter or phone or email?
The silence is deafening.
See it is safe to paint blacks as homophobic. You won't do anything to the Falwells and the Robertsons which is why you are getting nowhere in the Black community. |
Doberman23
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Post Number: 370
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 02:07 pm: |
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Zuriburi a drone... (which i think u mean as a robot, i thought it was just a sound) is someone like you. who is politcally correct but when they vote they vote against gay marriage just like i did. Zuriburi let's also play into your p.c.ness... when it comes to alek wek you and the usual suspects all basically lose your lips from kissing so much ass and going into compliment overdrive, but when it comes to someone complimenting halle you insult that person who dare gives her props and act as though halle berry actually came to your house took a shit in your cereal, stole your man, and shot your mom on the way out ... your the one who's a drone...and your the one who just follows suit. i actually answer questions based on my opinons and have fun while doing it.
now back to the topic: Anunaki3600 your example is a respectable one but that is usually not the case and you know it. i think most women react like terry mcmillan when they find out whoever their with switches sides. |
Zuriburi
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Post Number: 147
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 03:45 pm: |
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Cynique, a great percentage of Americans ARE idiot drones.
Ignoring scientific; anthropological and plain ole' common sense observations with regards to the genetic based diversity that is present in nature, creating hermaphrodites, uncommon chromosomal combinations ie XXY vs XY, homosexuals etc..., is idiotic. And, representative of perhaps personal insecurities (that may or may not change with maturity), and/or the egocentric boost that humans enjoy at the thought of being 'superior to the other'. This makes one a drone and or an idiot in that there is no real analysis of popular opinion that demands fear, hatred or subjagation of that which is different, even when the difference is innate. Hating because this is what he learned and because he can. The same ugly human story recycled.
Where in my post did I compare Rustang with Serenasailor?
Chris Hayden, would you rather message boards filled with hatred against gays? |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 273
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How can you compare the way ppl used to feel about Blacks the same way they feel about transgendered individuals?
Transgenered individuals CHOOSE to live an alternative lifestyle. It's a CHOICE to dress up as the opposite sex, and then spend thousands of dollars to have a sex change. It's a conscious effort.
There's no choice in being Black. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 04:53 pm: |
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It's not like transgenders are above reproach, Zuribi. Being transgendered doesn't canonize a person and absolve them of the obnoxiousness they have been known to display in making their point. Most people are turned off when these people expect special treatment, and want to impose their values on others. Of course, they are entitled to their rights, but people are also entitled not to approve of them as long as such disapproval doesn't infringe on transgenders right to exist. The idea that you are something other than a "drone" yourself is amusing. |
Cynique
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 04:57 pm: |
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And I wasn't replying to you, Zuribi, when I made the remark about Rustang and Serenasailor. I was responding to Renata and Tonya. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 2251
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 04:58 pm: |
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Zurburi:
From what I have seen message boards, newspaper columns, tv shows, the radio call in shows all ARE filled with hatred against gays.
Why single out the black people? How many black people are in the Senate voting on that amendment? How many will be in the House?
Again I accuse you and many like you of singling out black people as being homophobic when you know that the majority population is homophobic because this is safe. You are costing yourselves what friends you do have-- |
Yvettep
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 05:21 pm: |
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singling out black people as being homophobic
I, myself, do not single us out. But our homophobia has tremendous consequences for our G,L,B, and T brothers and sisters because then they really do have no place else to turn. Largely because of homphobia, the "Black church" ignored AIDS, and look at where that has led us.
And while we're on the "choice" tip, I have heard the way folks on this board go off when Black people "choose" to not self-identify as such, or choose to "become less Black" by having children with non-Blacks.
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Robynmarie
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Post Number: 33
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The Black Church is not responsible for HIV/AIDS.
People who have unprotected sex, share needles (tatoo and other kinds), etc are responsible for the spread of the virus. If folks listen to what they say in church, they wouldn't be having sex at all. |
Yvettep
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Post Number: 1035
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"Responsible"? No. Complicit via silence? Yes. |
Shemika
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Post Number: 67
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I agree with Brownbeauty and Doberman on this one. I think it is extremely racist to compare being black to practicing homosexuality or making sexual identity alterations. The popularity and spread of homosexuality is the responsibility of racist wp. And they are further exploiting blacks by focusing on pro-homosexuality to stall the black civil rights movement which is yet to be won and is quickly losing grip.
Whites are partial to pro homosexuality because it kills many birds with one stone. 1) It allows them to divert from black progress by tying up the civil rights institutions and laws all ready in place to emphasize and sanctify their own latent unhealthy sexual appetites and manufacture 'discrimination' concerns against homos. 2) To downplay and ignore the continued discrimination against blacks. 3) To push homosexuality in the inner city schools and further dissolve any chances of them developing healthy, in-tact families as well as ensure a black population decline as well as the death of more African Americans.
And that's just the surface of this charade. People are just being deceived into embracing that nonsense, especially once involved since sex (like drugs and alcohol) is a cheap outlet for pleasure seeking and is therefore an easy trap. As most people will rationalize any feel good they can get once seduced into it.
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Serenasailor
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Post Number: 477
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 07:49 pm: |
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Doberman, I didn't realize how childish you really are. First of all, I will make sure that you are the first person I give it to.
Secondly, you dumb bitch ass nigga Homophobia means fear & hatred of Homosexuals so go read a book biyatch.
Third you must be gay because you have never seen or heard me before. So how are you going to make a comment about my sexuality? Have you ever heard of that saying "It takes one to know one"?
Lastly, Homosexuals aren't gay because they hate the opposite sex CLOWN!! Unlike alot of BM who date/marry non-black women. Many of them were like that from birth.
P.S Even if I was gay I wouldn't get with your monkey looking ass anyway. So, go kiss on your UGLY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT GIRLFRIEND before I call
Immigration on her and have her Black Ass sent BACK TO AFRICA!!! |
Serenasailor
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The Black Church is not responsible for HIV/AIDS.
People who have unprotected sex, share needles (tatoo and other kinds), etc are responsible for the spread of the virus. If folks listen to what they say in church, they wouldn't be having sex at all.
The church is responsible for the fear of Homosexuality, and H.I.V/A.I.D.S. The black church is the main educator in the black community. Which means that they have a responsibility to teach the truth.
Instead they preach hatred and intolorance for Gay & Lesbian ppl. Black ppl and the Black church should be ASHAMED, for the lies and misinformation that it has spread. |
Shemika
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Serenasailor:
No, the schools and the media are the main educators of the people. The youth are in the schools all day seven days a week and people watch TV and are exposed to various other media outlets constantly. While some never go to church and if they do it is usually once a week for a few of hours at most.
There is no comparison between the levels of impact these other institutions have on the public (or black community) compared to the church. The schools are aggressively pushing the pro-homosexual agenda, as are all media outlets, so you know you are not being honest here.
And if anything is dangerous it's engaging in reckless sexual activity that breeds disease rather then practicing restraint. Also, the consequences are just as I stated. Unless deformed you are born with either m/f genitalia, which is what makes you who you are gender wise.
I don't mean to offend you, really I don't, but really now, acquiring a fetish for misusing your anatomy doesn't change the reality of gender. No more then sexing a farm animal turns a human into a horse. -Yet there are those who have a passion for it. That’s just to say that your conclusions are irrational despite being a part of public ed (the true religion).
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Shemika
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correction, I meant to say the children are in school five days a week. |
Doberman23
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LOL...here is the definiton of homophobia serensailor ...... Homophopbia is a concept that is used to crush anyone from stating an opposing viewpoint. It is quite ingenius. If anyone disagrees with homosexuals or any part of their agenda, then gay people simply brand them as "Homophobic". That shifts the focus to them, and then they are forced to defend themselves from actually having Homosexual tendencies themselves!" This tactic has been used for over 25 years now, by the Gay community, against ANYONE who disagrees with any part of their agenda.
lol... serenasailor your gay! all this time i would have never thought that until you basically outted yourself (i just thought you where borderline retarded). my girlfriend is not illegal by the way, but i'm glad that you said what you said ... because that definitly showed me how super-pro-black you really are ... your resolve is paper thin, but then again i should have expected you to crumble and get all sensitive being that you are what you are. anyways i'm gonna' leave you alone before you start crying in your bitten-up pillow and smearing your make-up all over your hidden vicy-c's... but your little sausage swallowing ass better go on about your own business from now on.
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Robynmarie
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"No, the schools and the media are the main educators of the people. The youth are in the schools all day seven days a week and people watch TV and are exposed to various other media outlets constantly. While some never go to church and if they do it is usually once a week for a few of hours at most.There is no comparison between the levels of impact these other institutions have on the public (or black community) compared to the church."
No disrespect, serenasailer, but I agree with Shemika on this one. As I said before, if people actually listened to what is being preached at the pulpit, there would be no sex outside of married sex, no stealing, no killing, cheating on taxes, no dissing of parents...
That said, I am delighted that many churches-not just black ones- have stepped up to the plate to offer awareness and referrals with regards to HIV/AIDS, and other health woes in the black community.
People attend church as a matter of habit, I believe. Monday-Saturday, most folks follow their own minds, hearts. |
Schakspir
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"P.S Even if I was gay I wouldn't get with your monkey looking ass anyway. So, go kiss on your UGLY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT GIRLFRIEND before I call
Immigration on her and have her Black Ass sent BACK TO AFRICA!!!"
Interesting how "pro-black" this sounds, doesn't it?? |
Serenasailor
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I never said that I was gay. But it is funny how preoccupied you are with my sexuality. Secondly, even if I was gay Biyatch you are going to be the one who is swallowing my sausage. SO FUCK YOU!!
P.S Send all the heat you can Dobes I'm wearing my Asbestos pants. |
Serenasailor
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Actually, Robynmarie and Shemika the church has always been the main teachers in the black community ever since slavery. And I find it funny how even though churches will preach against other sins such as Fornication, Adultery, and Drug use they are are unified in their teaching that Homosexuality is the worst sin that anyone can commit.
So basically in alot these churches you have liars, thieves, adulterers, and fornicators but they still think that they are going to heaven because they are NOT gay. When actually the bible preaches that all of these sins are equally the same.
I once knew a guy who said that the pastor in his church got two of the choir members pregnant and he is still an active pastor. The guy was debating on whether or not he should still go there. I was like WHAT????
However, you could not convince him that Homosexuality was not the worst sin in the world. |
Shemika
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Wrong again, although the bible does indeed state all those things you listed are sins, the affects of public education has led many leaders of the church to embrace homosexuality as the norm, contrary to biblical teaching. That's why you have some gay churches and pastors who are marrying gays. This is the impact of public education acting against biblical principles, which is what the church is supposed to be teaching regardless what the rest of society believes. It’s called freedom of religion.
And it's certainly not the case that people preach that homosexuality is so much worse then other sins. The primary difference is that homosexuals are the only ones defiantly trying to deny the fact that their behavior is sinful and impose that view on the church.
Biblical principle says you are to confess your sins, repent, and turn away from them. Unlike someone who for example, is a thief that may sincerely believe what he is doing is wrong and repent from it, even though it’s a difficult habit to break. However, because he had a change of heart and is sincere he will gradually improve or at least has a chance to. But homosexuals fight against having a change of heart or repenting so they have no chance to change. They seek justification and acceptance of their sins by the church and base their identity on their sexual conduct, making homosexuality the center of their world instead of God. -The whole purpose of being there.
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Robynmarie
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There has always been a "hierarchy" of sins...
murder, rape, child molestation are at the top,
cheating, lying and stealing in the middle,
and being disrespectful to your elders seems be the the least bad thing you can do.
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Chrishayden
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Yvettep:
Post here one time Black people have enacted laws to restrict the rights of Gay people. Post here one time black people have killed a gay person and strung them from barbed wire. Post here one time.
You can't can you?
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Yvettep
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Chris, I do not know where you get the idea that I think any of these things has happened. When the things that you mention occur and Black gay and lesbian youth and adults know they cannot turn to their families, communities and congregations for solace--then that hurts someone's brother, sister, son, daughter, friend.
But I am done with this issue. Obviously many people find great solace in their own beliefs about sexuality, morality, and religion. You all are not alone and should have plenty of statistics and bible verses and what not to quote to keep you busy for some time. |
Jackie
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Chris ,if there were more black people in power to enact laws to restrict the rights of Gay people, They Would don't think for one minute though that there aren't black people suuporting and rallying around these laws. Just by looking at some of the views here. We've discussed, cursed, disrespected one another about all kinds of shyt on these boards, much worse things than what gay people are doing in their bedrooms, but it never fails that black people start pulling Bible verses out of their asses when it comes to the "gay" issue. It reveals a lot about black people and sexuality and sexuality in general across color lines. Hang-ups I tell u Hang-ups. Many hetero couples engage in anal sex, bdsm, and all kind of acts. Threesomes etc. But that's ok right AS LONG AS IT'S NOT TWO PEOPLE OF THE SAME GENDER. How horrifying oh my god, I won't be able to make mad passionate wild love to my partner because of those darn gay people. Flick that !It ain't gonna stop me. Shame shame. I guess this could also explain why Georgia and I think Mississippi have outlawed sex toys...WTF ? Indeed, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm not disputing that. Granted, I believe that when we're born with a certain pair of genitals, it was for a reason, and we shouldn't be tampering with and altering them. Ouch. But hey if it floats your boat, who am I to say. And I do agree that some people are in phases and experimenting when it ocmes to homosexuality. But what about the percentage of folks that are born this way ? There's the argument about nature and natural law, well there are mutations that occur in the human ecosystem as well(and these mutations won't discontinue EVER. And you can't tell me when can't use a little population control.
Besides, one senator(I can't think of his name)(referring to marriage) states that Gay people deserve to be miserable too ! (LOL!) |
Cynique
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Thank you Yvette and Jackie for setting that know-it-all asshole chrishayden straight. |
Jackie
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This message is to the future children and grandchildren of some of these posters if you turn out to be gay. PACK YOUR BAGS AND RUN ! |
Brownbeauty123
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Why doesn't society stress that transexuals get the proper psychological therapy that they need instead of allowing them to get a sex change?
Why are "we" (straight ppl, people who choose to remain the sex the sex they were born with) are so "wrong" and "mean" for noticing that they have issues?
Most trannys are weird and creepy as hell. Nothing like the PC friendly versions you see on MTV or VH1. I find it appalling and offensive to come across some linebacker built man in a dress and a wig, trying to act "normal" and we the public are supposed to simply accept it. |
Jackie
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Brownbeauty, I'm sure some gay people might find some trannys "weird and creepy as hell too". Why do you think only straight people feel this way ? There's a lot of people in the corporate world, teachers, coaches, pastors etc and family members that I find "weird and creepy too." |
Jackie
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to answer your qustion BB123, I guess it would be a matter of finances when it comes to therapy. In fact, don't quote me on this but I think it's mandatory from a qualified physician for people seeking sex changes to see a psychiatrist. However, it's the follow up that most transexuals don't commit to.They simply cannot afford it or are just not interested in continuing the therapy once they receive the change. But, what PC friendly versions are you writing about ? Are you referring to tranvestites or transexuals on MTV ? |
Jackie
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also BB123, personally I'd rather see "society" stress(especially blacks of this society)that children and victims of child molestation, sexual and physical abuse get therapy. Because, we as black people tend to continually sweep this issue under the rug and not deal with it and don't believe in therapy. And let's not forget about the mentally ill in our families too. |
Tonya
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Exactly, Jackie….Five babies by five different women with no way to support them and thinking it's all cute is crazy. Selling crack to the neighbors, drinking whiskey and forties on the corner in front of the kids, neglecting to send the kids to school on time, not taking the time to pick a candidate that will support an appropriate prescription drug plan are what‘s crazy to me. Shooting a guy in the face because he looked at you sideways or said something wrong, that’s crazy too. Gay sex doesn't seem all that insane when I look at some of the things that go on outside my window, things that everyday people call everyday life--things they call “normal.” |
Rustang
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As far as the gay rights thing goes, in case some folks haven't realized it yet,gay marriage is going to happen in this country.100%, for sure, dead-lock certain.A constitutional amendment banning gay marriage is not going to happen.No way, no how, no time.That is the obvious reality of the matter.If you are ok with this, that's good.If you are not ok with this, that is also good, brcause what you think about this really doesn't even matter.Gay marriage will happen, constitutional ban won't, so incorporate those facts into your map of reality the best way that you know how.
People, yes, even black people, start bringing up the impact on the children.Why, I couldn't really say.Being raised by two women with jobs is better than being raised by one women with a job.Black men, for the most part, care nothing about their children.If they did, they would at least show up occassionaly to help out with the raising of these children.In order to maintain that ridiculous self-view of 'pimp' and 'playa' they follow R Kelly's lead and spend far more time pissing on other people's children than they do caring for their own.Being raised by two sane, productive men is better than being raised by a single mother.Plan 'A' is to be raised by the Huxtables but sadly, that is the abheration in the black community.So, in my opinion, a black man with children that have a different address than he does needs to just shut the fuck up when the conversation turns to what's best for the children.He doesn't rate an opinion. |
Chrishayden
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I'll expect to see all you champions of Gay rights picketing in front of Jerry Falwell's church this Sunday (Yeah right) |
Renata
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Rustang, can I have your baby? Heck, I might even give you two....I'm gettin to that age where it's more likely that I'll have twins than singles.
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Serenasailor
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Shemika, first of all you sound ignorant in the fact that you are saying that all homosexuals think alike.
Yeah some want the right to marry but many don't.
Some want to move into your neigborhoood, but some don't.
Some want to come into your church but others don't. For you to say that all Homosexuals make their sex lives a center of the universe is just like saying that all Black ppl use their blackness as an excuse for their underachieving.
Yeah some Black ppl are underachievers others are not.
Their is no such thing as a heirarchy of sins. A sin is a sin PERIOD!!
And does the bible not say that "Love covers a multitude of sins".
I personally think that Adultery is the worst sin you can commit. Why? Because you made a vow in front of God and the World that you are going to be with one person and one person only for the rest of your life and to break that promise is Horrible.
Now did you know that in the old testiment that talking back to your parents and Homosexuality were punished the same. If that law was still practiced today their would be alot of dead folks including me!
So be careful when you stereotype a certain group of ppl. Because as a BW I'm sure you have heard your fair share about who you are. |
Doberman23
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i have to give you your props serena, you sure do know your gay issues. |
Brownbeauty123
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Transgender people who have had a sex change operation do not view themselves as "gay" or "homosexual".
Anyone agree with that perspective? |
Ntfs_encryption
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"People certainly have a right to any opinion that they choose, but one should keep in mind that any argument in favor of rejecting the transgendered could also be applied to niggers, spics, jews, etc..Anyone that another person would consider to be one of 'those people' can be dehumanized and dismissed by vague accusations of 'sick' or 'weird' or 'contrary to the will of god'."
Very good point. I agree. |
Ntfs_encryption
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“Transgender people who have had a sex change operation do not view themselves as "gay" or "homosexual". Anyone agree with that perspective?”
This is very true. Regardless of what your visceral reaction is or what your moral or religious beliefs are, these people believe they are trapped in a body with the wrong gender. You may not agree with such thinking but how can you deny what they are experiencing simply because it offends you? If a man really believes he is a woman, is he gay? Gay men like other men not men living as women. Transsexuals and transgender males are attracted to straight men since they believe they are women. A man who is simply attracted to other men does not have breast and butt/hip implants, take massive amounts of female hormones, have his body waxed or have his genitals surgically manipulated into a vagina (vaginoplasty). Only a male who believes he is a female would do this.
Same goes for women who surgically have their breast removed, take male hormones or have surgical penile construction ( phalloplasty). From a purely medical perspective, this type of operation is very demanding and complex. It involves a number of medical fields including plastic surgery, urology, gynecology, vessel- and microsurgery as well as neurosurgery. In order to achieve optimal results for the patient, these medical fields must function seamlessly to provide the best results possible, not only optically but also functionally. It is very clear such surgeries or lifestyles are not for people who are simply gay!
There is a very common but misguided perception many people have about people who are gay and those who believe they are of the opposite sex. They are two different things. But their desire to be with members of their own genetic gender confuses the issue for many people. Again, if you morally or religiously object to people with gender problems, I can understand your consternation. But lumping them all together as just being “gay” is technically incorrect.
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Shemika
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I guess that means any old thing anyone decides they wish to do should fly including child molestation. And don't try to say it's not the same, because it does apply the same because it’s a form of sex, and both forms of sex have been traditionally outlawed. However, having dark skin has nothing to do with sexuality yet you manage to make a correlation. Unbelievable! That argument makes no sense except for those with a racist logic. An ungodly decision to carve yourself up or defy your God given gender identity has absolutely nothing to do with being mistreated because of your natural, God given skin tone or hair texture. I will never buy into that twisted logic. But then, it seems pro-homosexuals will defy all truth and logic to push their diluted logic on all, even poor unsuspecting youth.
Serenasailor:
Of course not, no decision applies to 100% of any category of people. I guess every member of the Klan didn’t go out and lynch someone, but the point is they all pretty much supported it. Same applies to pro-homosexuals and destroying marriage by legitimizing pointless imposter unions who are not capable of reproduction or natural mating. It's like saying, I live with my grandma so why not marry her. And the fact they mimic sex doesn't give such a union the value of the male/female union, which builds societies instead of destroying them. As does homosexuality.
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Jackie
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Shemika, just go ahead and say that you're anti-gay instead of attempting to sway readers to your argument that's becoming quite pathetic and desperate. To say that homosexuality destroys societies is quite ludicrous and demonstrates your lack of perspicacity. I guess condoms and other forms of birth control destroy societies too. While we're at it, let's throw in war, the death penalty, disease, alchoholism, drugs, drug pushers, cigarettes, crime, earth quakes, masturbation Wal mart, etc. |
Rustang
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Shemika, the predator/prey relationship between a child molestor and his victims bears no resemblance to the relationship between two consenting adults, and the fact that you make that statement says very clearly that you already know this.Attempting to link the question at hand with something that all would find objectionable is not a new strategy.'If you approve gay marriage, marauding bands of sodomites will molest your children'.This sort of fearmongering will not stand up under objective, critical analysis.The fact that a gay union is not capable of producing offspring is completely irrelevant.By that line of reasoning couples in which one member is sterile or has had a hysterectomy would be barred from marrying.The reason that people find themselves in a position from which they must resort to the irrelevant or the outright erroneous is this.You are trying to argue a question of biology from a standpoint of ethics, which is like showing up to play ice hockey wearing cleats and a football helmet.You summed it up nicely when you mentioned peoples god-given skin tone and hair texture.I understand that you will never concede that a gay person was born that way, even though they obviously were, since that would place you in the awkward person of having to answer questions like 'If god made them that way, how wrong can it really be?'
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Shemika
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Everything you have both said is the same tired rhetoric pro-homosexuals have been falsifying forever, a ready made speech. You know full well my point was in terms of different forms of sexual activity all being in the category of sexual activity regardless the intentions behind it, rather then within the category of race.
But you insist on bringing up unrelated rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious. Bottom line is that homosexuals are mimicking sex in a manner God did not create them for. And the consequence is an increase in social confusion and disequilibrium we all suffer the results of. And whether a male or female couple is sterile or not has nothing to do with anything, they are still not upsetting the social equilibrium by sexually pursuing those created for the role of heterosexual mates. Leading many to become burdened by the confusion of haven succumbed to such unnatural practices.
And it’s amusing how Jackie just went all off the radar comparing the impact of the practice of homosexuality to everything else under to sun to escape facing the point at hand. Bottom line is, a generation of homosexuals bring about no bloodline descendants or extended family - no great grandparents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins by which societal and family structures timelessly flow from. At best they attempt to mimic the real thing for the duration of their temporary front, and then die off leaving nothing but the shattered, confused lives of those they’ve caught up in their web. I’ve seen the pain and disconnect of those affected by such chaos.
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Jackie
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I'll tell you what the bottom line...Homosexuality has been a part of the human experience for thousands of years and will continue long after Shemika and her descendants return to dust and guess what ? We're still here, those of us who choose to procreate and fornicate will continue (me included lol !)I'd rather spend my time much more progressively and productively than complaining about how two consulting adults engage in sex. Get a life. Rant on Shemika, rant on, the floor is yours to spew your hatred and disgust towards those darn gays and trannies. |
Jackie
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Shemika:Bottom line is, a generation of homosexuals bring about no bloodline descendants or extended family - no great grandparents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins by which societal and family structures timelessly flow from.
I've seen the pain and disconnect of those affected by: Individuals whom voluntarily chose to undergo tubal ligations and vasectomies or those that simply choose not to have children. No blood line there.
Yvettep, you wrote that you were done with this topic and you have not returned. Good for you, it's pointless with these myopic fundies LOL !
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Shemika
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Username: Shemika
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 04:56 pm: |
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You're the one who sounds filled with hate and disgust for anyone who has a view that you don't agree with. -Typical of homosexuals because many act the same way against those who decline their unwanted advances. Most also are very vengeful and purposely disconnect and sabotage any efforts to engage in straightforward, honest dialogue respectful of an opposing view. Just as you continue along the same train of logic behind your irrelevant comments about things like tubal ligations or sterility, an issue I already addressed. Just as I'm sure you'll go on and on with the same circular reasoning - refusing to process anything that clearly discredits your weak logic. Such as the one assuming that because a practice has gone on for thousands of years that validates its continuance. Well, I hope people don’t take such an archaic approach toward slavery.
Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they hate you, it’s really juvenile to promote such faulty logic. What’s hate is the selfishness that drives people to place the pursuit of some flash-in-the-pan experience above respect and honor for each others God given gender identity.
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