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Rustang
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The mid-term elections are coming up pretty soon snd there are a whole lot of people that aren't real happy with the thought of 'staying the course'.Many congressional districts are going to be pretty much up for grabs for any candidate that has a sane agenda that seems to be in the best interests of the people of that district.The window is open for a person of intelligence, integrity and compassion to sneak through.There is time to unify a constiuency, get on the ballots amd start working towards some meaningful progress.Set aside the in-fighting and remember that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.:-)
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Doberman23
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 12:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

if condolezza rice runs for presidency under the republican party card, i will be forced to vote republican... due to my blackness.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 09:29 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unfortunately it takes so much more than the qualities you describe to run for Congress. It takes monumental amounts of cash, and the keeper of the cash may not even possess any of those virtues. This is why we keep having the same types of greedy/corrupt politicians who are only interested in promoting their personal agendas. Not all, but most - you get my point.

I wish things were different and someone could run for political office simply because they cared for their ppl and had a sincere desire to help improve ppl's lives. I think that our entire system of government should be scrapped and we develop a brand new method. Maybe have the candidates write an essay about how they envision the future and make them pass a lie detector test about it to ensure they aren't faking. Only then would they be issued a federal grant to cover their campaign expenses. That might stop all the craziness of gillions being wasted on campaigns.

And let the ppl decide who we want to represent us from a pool of real ppl, not having a choice of the wealthiest candidates forced upon us, and from those that we didn't want in the first place, electing the lesser of two evils. I wish someone like you could run for Congress, Rustang. Someone with a pure heart and a sound mind. The U.S.A. would be such a better place.
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Rustang
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:52 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To Doberman23,sadly, a vote for condi is a vote to stay the course, and my blackness flatly forbids me to cast such a vote.
To Mzuri,posters that have been here for a while will probably tell you that I am starting to sound like a broken record,but I still believe that we can do this.It does not require the massive amounts of cash to tilt a local election in your candidate's favor, and that is what congressional elections are.And you never know.We could catch a break.Less than a quarter of a million people voted for Gerald Ford and that got him the presidency.In the upcoming elections, the republicans have already spent those huge sums for us in Iraq, guantanamo, Abu ghrab, give-aways to the oil industry, tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy,etc...Point out how the environmental regulation waivers got to New Orleans before the national guard did,and that should help a candidate out in Louisiana.Pointing out how little, if anything, has been done for coastal Mississippi, other than lining Trent Lott's already very deep pockets and a candidate in Mississippi should have a pretty good toe-hold.The status quo parties are very vulnerable now, and people might be willing to vote for someone other than tweedle dum or tweedle dee this time around.
And yes,Cynique, I am still the eternal optimist.(I think that's why they call us 'eternal'):-)
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 11:37 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Condi's on CNN right now and I can't stand her. She actually believes those things that she says. She just wants to make things so much better for the ppl of Iraq. And I say - why not make things better here, before we go to Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Bahrain, Afghanistan(d) <-- as POTUS says - why not make things right for us? Cure our diseases and get our homeless ppl off of the street and ensure our children have decent school books and supplies and that our ppl aren't starving - FIRST!!!

Get us out of debt to the Chinese!!! I can't believe we have borrowed money from China, how can this be??? And BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME!!! When you have done all of that, and our country is almost perfect - then go and force your will on other countries. I'll be so happy when this adminstration just goes away. They have got a major case of head-up-the-ass.

Rustang, your points of view are worth repeating. I think you are very wonderful!!!
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Tonya
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm not sure Condoleezza believes half of what she portrays.

I have a feeling that if we get her away from the Bushies and off the plantation...

she'd spill her guts like old man Powell did: "I's free now!" *tee-he*

I'm with you Dobes;

I'd have to at least consider Condi, if nothing else, "due to my blackness." *LOL*

The fact that she's a woman is triple layered icing on the cake.
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 03:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A leopard doesn't change its spots. Condoleeza is inured in the conservative Republican mind-set and she'd never be comfortable being any other way. Colin Powell, on the other hand was never anything but an Independent, masquerading as a Republican.
And the idea of women moving into the upper echelon of politics generates little enthusiasm on my part. Woman are just as flawed as men. Only in a different way. Can you say "PMS"? Or, worst yet, "Menopausal"? I can just picture an oval office scenario. "Drop the damn bomb! I'm having a hot flash! (Nothing worse that having a female boss.) LOL
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 03:18 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rustang, You're enteitled to your optimism. I just tend to think you'd have to dismantle the present government before you can rennovate it. All Power To The People!
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 03:56 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique - You of all ppl should know that men have far more frequent mood swings than women. We have our PMS episodes once a month, but their testosterone levels change several times a day and they have frequent moods swings. Why do you think men are always acting crazy, why they are so unpredictable, and why they are more likely to commit violent acts? Women are much more stable then men - so the bomb thing probably won't happen with a female in the house.

Yes Black men - I said it - you all is crazy!!!
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Cynique
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 05:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why would I of all people know what you say about men to be true, Mzuri? Some of the ones on this board may fit your description, but the men I encounter in real life are a lot less high-strung and irrational and emotionally fragile than women. They take care of business and dispense with the pettiness and nagging. Yes, they are aggressive, and blunt and stubborn but that doesn't make them any worse than women. If, for instance, I had to choose between Rustang and Kola Boof, Rustang would win hands down. But, of course, you and I have both fallen into the generalization trap.
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Mzuri
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 05:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I thought you knew. There was a report about it a couple of years ago on 20/20 or DateLine about men having constant mood swings throughout the day, every day. Most men I know are moody, indecisive and crazy with lots of drama. And they are so sensitive, did you know that men are very sensitive? Anyway, I was just saying - Hope you're doing okay!!!
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Doberman23
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 01:19 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ralph tresvant was sensitive, he even wrote a song about it.
i thought that cd kinda sucked, he was the lead singer of new edition and he was the only one who sucked when he went solo. i mean b.b.d had poision and bobby brown made tender roni, johnny gill had a good cd, and leroy tubbins had an excellent career in porn background music. leroy tubbins got kicked out of the group for something or other ... look it up, ... what was this thread about again? oh yeah, condi would flip the script just like colin powel if she got the chance but then again i was wrong when i thought that about clarence thomas ... oh well, at least there's always fritos :-)
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Rustang
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 09:26 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The problem with male politicians is not their mood swings.The real problems are their propensity to take bribes and the ease with which one can be set up for blackmail by running a 19 year old girl (or boy)by them.A new man goes to Washington and generally he doesn't last two weeks before he is comfortably residing in someone's pocket.That is why we have the sad state of affairs that we have.If you examine the behavior of the ethics committee, one thing sort of jumps right out at you.When have they ever actually initiated an investigation of anything?You would think that on at least one occassion a member of the committee would be one of the first people to hear about something that another senator is doing and start investigating it.That hasn't ever happened though.If we haven't been reading about it in the papers and seeing it on the news for weeks or months, we won't hear a peep out of the ethics committee.We are in serious need of sweeping change in the make-up of our representation, and this election cycle looks like a golden opportunity to grab the broom.
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Tonya
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynnique, I know you don't think I'm THAT simple. I don't trust women as far as I can throw 'em. The ONLY thing I trust is that some of them are smart enough to look after their best interests. And being that they're women, their interests are bound to be closer to mine. I feel that way about class and color too: I don't trust the person; I only trust that they are going to look out for themselves. The only thing I have to decide is whether or not they're suicidal.

P.S.,

Philosophy is sexy but in today's world it's best to put your money on greed!
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Cynique
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Where are you coming from, Tonya? Are you trying to say that you prefer a woman you can't trust rather than a man you can't? Why not just invest your hopes in an honest, upstanding INDIVIDUAL. That would be my ultimate preference.
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Cynique
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 06:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rustang, you know what they say; Politics is the art of compromise. They also say that "power corrupts" and "absolute power corrupts absolutely".
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Tonya
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynnique you got to understand. The first politician that I can CLEARLY recall said, "I did not have sex with that woman." And "it depends on what 'is' is."
I can't imagine an honest, upstanding INDIVIDUAL. That wouldn't be politics, would it? *Scratching the head*
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Doberman23
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Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 01:39 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cynique ... that was pretty darn good. i almost clapped and everything ... but due to my dudeness i just tilted my head in approval instead.
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Rustang
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Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 09:33 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, compromise doesn't require selling your constiuency down the river for personal gain.:-)Power tends to corrupt, but the corruption isn't mandatory.There have been examples when a person was motivated solely by their vision of what's best for the people and they never did get around to lining their own pocket.Admittedly rare examples, but they do occur.That sort of person is in virtually every community.The only complication would be to convince them to step out onto the firing line.:-)
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 09:56 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was merely offering those expanations as to why politician are the way they are, Rustang. And I should've included the other caveat that "every man has his price." LOL Anyway, I can't help but wonder if the only way for your idealist appoach to play out would be for a benign dictator to take over; an idea that has always been floating around.
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 10:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Doberman, I hear the sound of your one hand clapping and I'm diggin it. Ohmmmmmmmm. :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hummmmm
LiLi off to vote for the best woman or man
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Rustang
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Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 06:08 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, I think that a benign dictator would sure beat the one that we are currently suffering.:-)What we would actually need would be a total turnover in at least one of the legistative bodies, so that there would be no one that 'knows the ropes' to train the freshman senators or members of congress.
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Cynique
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Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 07:05 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, Rustang, as along as there are 2 parties, wheeling and dealing will eventually ensue. With a one-man-rule, what he said would go, and if he is benign, then he would be concerned with the greater good for everybody. Of course this is all theory and - insanity. :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 01:19 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rustang you are a prophet.

This is exactly what is going to happen.

It has happened already--read about the death of the Roman Republic--we are past the point of the Gracchi brothers (The Kennedy's MLK, etc)but Marius and Sulla have not shown up yet.

What is going to happen is that the military--which is already the strongest and most cohesive force in the Military/Industrial/Intelligence/Political/Financial complex that now controls America is ultimately going to be the only force that will be perceived as efficient and free from corruption enough to rule.

Of course we all know where that winds up, don't we?

I was reading about a round table in which several military men scoffed at the notion that a military coup could occur in the U.S. Of course this ignores the fact that few military coups portray themselves as a military coup and in fact they just announce a "temporary emergency" which "necessitates a temporary excercise of emergency powers"--sort of like martial law. And then they forget to hand the powers back--even Julius Caesar and Augustus did not proclaim themselves king--

I know people on this list will also scoff, citing a belief in a righteous resistance to such a state of affairs by the American people, who have shown no indication of offering such resistance whenever nothing impacts them personally--

Face it--if one morning a general comes on tv and announces that the armed forces are taking over and you look out and the traffic is normal and the lights are on and the water is running and you go to work and all is like it is and on payday you get yours--

Whatcha gonna do?
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Renata
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Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 11:30 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique, I don't know what kind of women you must have worked for.

All of my female bosses were all great and fair and caring. The male bosses were wishy-washy and kow-towed to the strongest female in his division/under his charge. The last time I worked for a male, I was fired because I passed out and had to have an ambulance come and get me. (He didn't say that was the reason, he just called me when I was home from the hospital and told me not to come back). This was in an office, so it's not like there was some safety issue. Somehow, the women who were always late and told him what they were/weren't going to do get the shifts of their choice and pay raises.

My last female boss lauded me to the point that this is my third time working for the same company in 3 years. When I had my son, or if I have an issue that doesn't allow me to work for months at a time, I basically take "unpaid leave". The longest was for 18 months.

I'd much rather work for women. I often leave the company in good standing and not pissed off about something and even have a good reference for later. AND they'll do whatever they can to give you the shift of YOUR choice.
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Renata
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Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I probably still wouldn't vote for Condoleeza Rice. I just don't like her much. If I voted for her, the other candidate would either have to be really screwed up or another Bush.

Oh, BTW, did anyone know that when Carter left the presidency, he left BROKE?
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Abm
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Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 05:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Renata: "Oh, BTW, did anyone know that when Carter left the presidency, he left BROKE?"


Wouldn't surprise me. The man was too decent and honest for his own dayam good.

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