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Mzuri
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Post Number: 390
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 02:59 pm: | 
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Maybe law enforcement officials can save us all the hassle and execute the perps after the first offense, instead of giving them a chance to do it twice.
Child Rapist Surprises S.C. Community
Apr 20, 2:07 PM EDT
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HARTSVILLE, S.C. (AP) -- Neighborhood teenagers called him Uncle Kenny, the wiry man whose trailer sat on a junk-strewn lot behind thick pines and a "No Trespassing" sign where the paved road turns to dirt.
Kenneth Glenn Hinson, 47, had no children but seemed to treat his neighbors' kids as if they were his own. He would listen to their problems, pile them into his pickup truck for weekend outings at Johnson Lake and roast marshmallows with them during sleepovers at his home.
"My kids stayed down there, camped down there with him and cooked down there with him. Hell, half the neighborhood did," said Donna McGee, who knew Hinson for four years. "Nobody ever suspected anything."
They didn't know that Hinson had spent nine years in prison for raping a 12-year-old girl in 1991. Or that 15 years later, he would be charged with another crime so outrageous that South Carolina lawmakers would test the constitutional limits of the death penalty by proposing the execution of repeat child rapists.
Two 17-year-old girls fled Hinson's property last month, saying he had taken them from a home, bound their mouths and wrists with duct tape and raped them in a shallow dungeon under a trapdoor in his tool shed. Hinson was captured March 17 after a four-day manhunt.
A week after Hinson's arrest, South Carolina's Senate voted 38-4 to allow the death penalty for sex offenders convicted a second time of raping children younger than 11. Oklahoma lawmakers are considering a similar bill.
Gov. Mark Sanford and South Carolina's attorney general, both Republicans, have endorsed the death penalty for child rapists. A state House committee has yet to take up the measure.
Like most of the 38 states allowing capital punishment, South Carolina and Oklahoma reserve the death penalty for murderers. Only three states - Louisiana, Florida and Montana - have laws allowing the death penalty for sex crimes, and no such executions have been carried out since the U.S. Supreme Court let capital punishment resume 30 years ago.
"There are a lot of people who would argue a rape of a child is tantamount to taking their life, because you deprive them of their childhood," said Jay Hodge, the prosecutor in Hinson's case. But "as a practical matter, I don't feel comfortable that the U.S. Supreme Court would go along with it."
The Supreme Court in 1977 overturned the death sentence of a Georgia man condemned for raping an adult woman. It declared that execution "is an excessive penalty for the rapist who, as such, does not take human life."
The U.S. has one inmate on death row for a rape that did not result in murder: Patrick O'Neal Kennedy of Louisiana, convicted in 2003 of raping an 8-year-old girl.
The Louisiana Supreme Court upheld the state's death penalty for child rapists four years before Kennedy's conviction. It said the U.S. Supreme Court ruled only on executions for rapists of adults, not children.
Appeals of Kennedy's death sentence could force a new showdown in the nation's high court.
"Anything less than the taking of a life could never justify an execution - that's how most people read the Supreme Court decision," said Kay L. Levine, a law professor at Emory University in Atlanta.
Rick Hoefer, Hinson's court-appointed attorney, declined to comment on the death penalty proposal or the case against his client. "I cant imagine any good coming out of trying this case beforehand in the press," he said Tuesday.
On Hinson's four-acre property - littered with discarded tires, broken furniture and bulging trash bags - the dungeon sits beneath a rickety shed. Investigators say he camouflaged its trapdoor with a concrete block.
The dungeon was a chilly, crypt-like space, just 4 1/2 feet deep and roughly the length and width of a midsize car, with the floor and walls lined with two-by-fours. A single 75-watt bulb illuminated the space.
"It reminds me of something out of a movie - a real bad horror movie," said Hinson's niece Renee Faile, who turned him in during the manhunt after he came to her backyard asking for a glass of water and a cigarette.
Though South Carolina's proposed death penalty change would not affect Hinson - the alleged victims are too old, and the law could not be applied retroactively anyway - Faile said she is beginning to think child rapists such as her uncle do not deserve to live.
"Yeah, he's a family member," she said. "But he's also done wrong."
Associated Press writer Meg Kinnard contributed to this story from Columbia, S.C. |
Mzuri
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Post Number: 391
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 03:04 pm: |
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I forgot to do the HAPPY DANCE!!!  |
Roxie
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Now all they have to do is execute people who kill children with physical abuse and neglect.
THEN we can have a BIG HAPPY DANCE!!!! |
Brownbeauty123
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Why does it take so long to execute these criminals? They usually stay on death row for years. |
Rustang
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You folks might want to think that one through before you go to getting too happy about it.There was a time in this country when debtor's prison was illegal, and almost everybody agreed that this was a good way to have things, except, of course, the wealthiest people.The government took the most extreme case that they could find and prosecuted Al Capone for tax evasion, and everybody did their happy dance.Now the feds routinely lock up regular, working class folks for tax evasion, after taking everything that the person owns.They stretched the boundary a bit more and started locking people up for child support non-payment.That particular pendulum is still swinging, and in a few more years debtor's prison will be back in full swing.They are about to execute this guy Moussaoui for not coming forward and volunteering to tell on some other people.What will be the demographic make-up of the next hundred people they execute for not coming forward and reporting something to the authorities that they have heard other american citizens discussing?Or the next hundred convicted sex offenders?Everyone agrees that there are a disproportionate number of blacks on death row right now.They also agree that a small but significant percentage of them did not commit the murders for which they were condemned based on dna evidence.We have a situation in which prosecutors see this dna evidence and they know in their hearts that the person convicted is innocent, yet they continue to fight tooth and claw the overturning of this conviction.Why? Where does seeking justice fit into that little model?It doesn't.One murder, one executed nigger.That sounds close enough for them.God forbid that they should have to conceed that they've made a mistake and go waste even more of the tax-payers money locating, prosecuting and executing a different nigger for the same crime.To answer the the question about the demographic break-down of the next hundred sex offenders executed, it will be a majority of poor black males that might or might not have raped a white woman.You really ought to consider this before jumping on that band-wagon. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:22 am: |
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I agree with you Rustang that the way some of our laws are applied are unfair and unreasonable, and I certainly don't want innocent ppl executed. But some of these perverts who have molested and raped time and time again, and who have proven themselves to be incurable/unrehabilitatable (new word everybody!!!) - I don't have a problem seeing them euthanized. Let's just put those bastards out of their misery. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:30 am: |
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Amazing. These people down in South Carolina were the same ones who had laws keeping you in the back of the bus, etc. And now you agree with them.
It will never pass the Supreme Court.
If you start killing people when they haven't killed anybody where do you stop?
I don't know where you stop, but along the way you get rid of all these niggers--men women and little bitty babies.
After all, aren't their crime rates higher?
I hope wherever he is Dr. King can't read this thread. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:32 am: |
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All you have to do is lock these people up for the rest of their lives, but I forget you are from Texas,aren't you where lynch law prevails.
I bet you really did the happy dance when that white sheriff locked up half the blacks in that town for drug dealing--after all we all know blacks deal and use all the drugs.
Do you folks see why that state ought to be broken up yet? |
Brownbeauty123
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:45 am: |
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Chrishayden--why are you justifying drug dealers?
And child molestors are much WORSE than murderers. They're killing the spirit of children and letting them live with it. I see nothing wrong with sentencing a man who sticks his dick in an 8 month old child to death. Only problem is that they don't execute those bastards soon enough. To HELL with them. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:52 am: |
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CH - Why put them in prison - so that they can molest and rape each other? And what does MLK have to do with what I think about this. Do you think MLK would approve or defend the proliferation of all these child rapists, molesters, murderers, serial killers, cannibals, and all the rest? And since when do you speak for MLK? Get a grip.
Anyway, I'm not going to spend my Saturday arguing about it or defending my position. I posted a news article and stated my opinion about it. If a bastard molests any of my grand-children - then his ass can fry. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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Mzuri:
And what problem would you have with some child molesters molesting and raping each other in prison?
Doubt if they would, though. They like children. It is the other prisoners who would molest and rape them.
You know that MLK would not condone executing ANYBODY.
I don't expect you to be that advanced since you are from Texas.
Being one of them I would expect you to say you would hogtie them and barbecue them yourself--not want somebody else to do it for you. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:32 am: |
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CH - I'm not from Texas, I just happen to live here. I was born to a military family and came to Texas when my dad was assigned to an Army base here. Honestly, I don't know what MLK would condone. I don't believe that this problem was so prevalent in his lifetime. Would MLK defend a molester who sexually assaulted one of his own children? Let me ponder on that for a while and I'll get back to you. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
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Mzuri:
Watch your back. I had an uncle who moved down there and them Texans saw him carrying an umbrella.
"We know you ain't from here," one of them said.
To put it delicately, he came to a bad end later under questionable circumstances.
MLK being human, would probably try to kill anybody who molested one of his children. If somebody molested one of my children, I'd want to kill him myself.
I'm fighting it, but I'm from Missouri, which is probably the only thing worse than being from Texas.
But it isn't right, and I'm not proud of myself for it. |
Rustang
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:42 am: |
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Again with the stealing of souls? The only person worse than the murderer is the mass murderer.Most folks would agree that there is that occasional wacko that just needs killing.However, at the very bottom of the list of people qualified to make that call is elected officials.State officials execute people for political gain.Period.That is not the primary motive, it is the only motive.I live in harris county, texas.Harris county sends more people to death row than 48 of the 50 states.More than the entire state of alabama, more than louisiana, etc...A couple of years ago a man was executed for murder in the commission of a felony, that felony being robbery.The only evidence presented was one old white man's testimony.This old man was on the other side of a parking lot, at night, in the rain and saw a black man that he had never seen before in his life rob and kill someone.The robbery/homicide lasted all of about 8 seconds.In his original statement to the police he said that the perpetrator was a couple of inches taller than he was.The man executed was a couple of inches shorter than the old man.He failed to pick the guy out of a line-up.He then failed to pick the guy out of the first photo line-up, but after a sufficient number of attempts, he finally picked the guy that the cops wanted him to.But, in court the old man was sure that this was the person he had seen.After the guy was executed, it came out that another man, a couple of inches taller than the old man, had been arrested on another robbery a couple of days after this murder and had in his possession things belonging to the murder victim.I have no doubt that the old man was certain.I also have no doubt that he was wrong.A jury of 12 sane, intelligent people would have immediately seen that there is no way that someone could accurately identify a person from those conditions and dismissed his testimony for what it so obviously was. A hateful, hard-headed old man that doesn't care about anything other than being right.Sadly, 12 sane, intelligent people are very hard to come up with around here.The prosecuting attorney new about the second arrest at the time of the trial of the man that was eventually executed, but for some reason that never came up.Again, he new in his heart that the guy standing trial was innocent,but he pushed it just as hard as he could anyway and they killed the man as a result of that.All of what I'm saying became puplic later on.Nobody cared.This is a pretty simple topic.If you still support state sanctioned killings for crimes that do not involve loss of life, you have taken 2+2 and come up with 7 for an answer.Most folks are oppossed to child molestation and they respond emotionally.But if you are considering allowing the government to start killing a whole class of offenders, again, you really need to sit down and think that one through a little more rationally and a lot less emotionally, because eventually that one will come back around to bite you on the ass one way or another. |
Mzuri
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 07:44 pm: |
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Man Sentenced in Toddler's Abduction, Rape
Apr 22, 3:07 PM EDT
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- A man accused of kidnapping a sleeping 2-year-old boy from his bed, raping him and then leaving him in some bushes was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison.
Jurors convicted Damion Winston Foster, 29, last month on charges of kidnapping, rape, burglary and sexual abuse.
"In my years working in the criminal justice system on a daily basis this is one of the most disturbing cases I've ever been affiliated with," Broward County Circuit Judge Martin Bidwell said Friday.
Authorities said Foster reached through a broken window on April 5, 2004 and grabbed the sleeping boy, who is now 4 years old.
The child's parents discovered him missing around 4 a.m. and called police. The toddler was found 30 minutes later in a bush - naked, bloody and with duct tape wrapped around his head.
A fingerprint left on the duct tape matched Foster's, authorities said.
Defense attorney Gawane Grant said he would appeal the verdict and also argued that the sentence was excessive.
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Abm
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 01:29 am: |
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I think I agree with Chris in that I'd think it cruel and unusual punishment to execute someone who has NOT killed.
I do, however, think there are many things we could do to these child molesting mofo's to make them WISH they were dead. |
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