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Kola_boof
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April 11, 2006, 4:09PM
D.A. Says Duke Lacrosse Probe to Continue
By TIM WHITMIRE Associated Press Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press
DURHAM, N.C. — Standing before a mostly black audience, the district attorney in charge of the Duke University rape investigation said Tuesday he does not need DNA to bring charges and vowed, "This case is not going away."
District Attorney Mike Nifong spoke one day after defense attorneys said DNA testing failed to connect any of Duke's lacrosse players to the alleged attack on a black stripper who said she was raped at a party by members of the nearly all-white 47-man team.
Nifong stopped short of confirming the defense assessment of the DNA results, but said the case would not be hampered by a lack of DNA evidence.
"It doesn't mean nothing happened," Nifong said at a public forum at North Carolina Central University, where the 27-year-old alleged victim is a student. "It just means nothing was left behind."
No charges have been filed.
Nifong said prosecutors were awaiting a second set of DNA results, but did not say how those differed from the tests reported Monday. Nifong added that in 75 percent to 80 percent of sexual assaults, there is no DNA evidence to analyze.
The district attorney said a rape case can built on testimony from the alleged victim and other witnesses. Nifong also said the hospital exam of the woman has led him to believe a crime occurred at the March 13 party.
According to court documents, a doctor and a specially trained nurse found the alleged victim had "signs, symptoms and injuries consistent with being raped and sexually assaulted."
"My presence here means this case is not going away," Nifong said to applause from an audience of about 700.
The allegations have led to days of protests on and off the Duke campus and heightened racial tensions around Durham.
Some students at North Carolina Central, a historically black university a few miles away, assailed Nifong for his handling of the case and the media for its portrayal of the alleged victim.
"You all know if this happened at Central and the young lady was from another school or another `persuasion,' the outcome would have been different," said Toloupe Omokaiye, suggesting to applause from the crowd that the alleged attackers would have been jailed already.
Nifong said that he has never engaged in racial favoritism and that arresting suspects too quickly could harm the case.
"I have been criticized by both sides in this case," he said. "There have been people who have said that I should have given up this case a long time ago, and there are people who have said I should have already indicted, moved against somebody with some charges. The fact is that this case is proceeding the way a case should proceed."
Nifong later told a questioner, who asserted the victim had positively identified her three attackers, that her information was wrong.
The district attorney faces two challengers in a May 2 primary election. Asked by a member of the audience about the campaign, he said: "As the district attorney, you do not get to choose what crimes occur and when they occur. This is not about an election. This is about justice."
Nifong refused to take any questions from reporters after the forum.
Bill Thomas, a defense attorney for one of the team captains, urged the accuser to recant, saying he believes she made up the allegations to avoid a charge of public drunkenness.
"It is my sincere hope that she comes forward and tells the truth in this matter and allows these young men to go on with their lives and for this community to heal," Thomas said.
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AP National Writer Allen Breed contributed to this story from Raleigh.
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Kola_boof
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Well, I'm glad that an AFRICAN man at least took up for the victim:
"You all know if this happened at Central and the young lady was from another school or another `persuasion,' the outcome would have been different," said Toloupe Omokaiye, suggesting to applause from the crowd that the alleged attackers would have been jailed already.
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Kola_boof
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I don't care if the young woman is lying or telling the truth.
I want to see her case be given the same Public Attention that the White Skank that stiffed KOBE got before she turned out to be....(?).
This case...is about so much more than just rape.
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Lil_ze
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well, its important to care if she was lying or telling the truth. if she is telling the truth the case deserves all the attention it can get. but if she's lying. then she is a liar who deserves no attention. if she is lying it means she falsely accused people who did nothing to harm her. also if she is lying, it does a disservice to those women who are actually raped. i think we should all care if she is lying or telling the truth. falsely accusing people of rape is serious. to not care if she is lying or telling the truth just so the case can be given some "public attention" is foolish in my opinion. should we not care if the women in the mike tyson or tupac rape cases were lying or telling the truth just so the the case could get "public attention"? of course we should. if she is lying, then there is no case, no rape, assualt, nothing. just a liar. if she is telling the truth the case should get all the attention in the world. but to say "i don't care if she is lying or telling the truth", just so the case can get some public attention is insane. im sure during the mike tyson rape case, there were feminists saying, "i don't care if desiree coleman is lying or telling the truth. i just want this case to get some attention". well i think mike tyson would care if she was lying or telling the truth. lying, especially, when it come to a false rape accusation should not be tolerated for any reason. not even so the case (which if she's lying there is no case) could get some "public attention". |
Sosodeath
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lil ze,
I totally agree. If this woman is unmixed or overwhelmingly black and is telling the truth, she deserves every bit of our support. But if she is lying or mixed race, she ought to be thrown in jail. |
Serenasailor
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Lil ze you are a jerk that just hates black women. If this woman is lying the truth will be found out, let's just hope for that. But lets assume that this girl is telling the truth she is one of our sisters, she is the bearer of our race. Don't you want to protect her at all cost?
I don't understand why can't we be more like the white ppl, when a young lady gets violated we should just seek blood, no matter if she is telling the truth or not. |
Lil_ze
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hey,another intelligent post by the name caller. "when a young lady gets violated (how would "we" know if she has been violated?) we should just seek blood". what about the judicial process? if anytime some one made an allegation, if people just went out seeking "blood" (as you say), there would be chaos. what exactly does "seek blood" mean? who's blood? and who is we? emotional, non thinking, name calling idiots. who have deep seated issues with people who's skin is lighter or hair is of a different texture?
very well thought out comments. "hey, everyone lets just run out and seek blood everytime an accusation is made. no matter if the person making the accusation is lying or not" very smart. very prudent. "uh, does anybody know who's blood we are supposed to be seeking, and after we find the blood we are seeking, what are we gonna do with it?" again, very well thought out ideas.
rachel true-i love you! |
Tonya
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As a small child..
I remember asking my mother how it is that "The Man" has so much "power."
At the time, I thought it was a myth. I really did not understand.
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In regards to me seeming unintelligent, uncultured, and uncouth... my self-esteem won't allow me to give a damn.
This victim... would have to PROVE to me that this incident DID NOT occur.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong... even uncouth and unintelligent....
At least they'll understand I'm not playing their games anymore, that Katrina truly was quite enough.
At this point in our history, they ought to know that by now....
But for our self-esteem... they would. |
Babygirl
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We should care that the "victim" be telling the truth simply because when it is proven that she lied, then she has just done herself and all true victims of sexual assault a grand disservice.
Sadly, the onslaught of media attention has been more of a hinderance to this young woman than it seems she would have liked.
This young woman willingly put herself in a position to be mistreated and disrespected (and it doesn't matter why she did it or how many kids she had to feed 'cause there was always the late shift at Mickey D's but fast, easy money is so much more appealing to some young minds).
When exactly that happened and she was treated as "common trash" such didn't sit well with her. But most in the area know that Duke doesn't like scandal surrounding their own and will do whatever is necessary to insure any hint of such is quickly dealt with. Insiders have speculated that this young woman was "banking" on that happening, that someone's daddy would make sure his Duke baby didn't suffer and would make it all go away quietly.
What the "victim" didn't "bank" on was that there would be those who would actually be outraged, that there are people who actually care and view her as being worthy and valued (something she clearly didn't see in herself because it was so much more validating to believe folks wouldn't care about a little black girl). But how wrong she was!
Suddenly, with all the media attention, no one's daddy could make it go away quietly and what she "banked" on, isn't going to be deposited. All the attention backfired, and now, with them pressing on, her unable to back peddle her way out, those Duke daddys aren't going to be satisfied until they totally annilate her and they have the financial resources to do just that.
Does this empower black women, give due attention to our causes, our constant mistreatment? No, it only continues to perpetuate the same old sterotypes and fuel the beliefs that by virtue of our own behavior, our own deceit and deceptions, that they are justified in their disregard.
Kobe's white woman was dismissed - one bad apple spoiling their little basket. This young black woman will be dismissed as well - one bad apple like all the other bad apples of her kind.
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Doberman23
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i find this case very suspicious, so therefore i think i will react like a white guy when hears about one of his precious angelic innocent sweet do nothing wrong white girls when they are sexual abused by anybody other than another white guy ... so i am going to automatically reserve my thoughts in opposition to the the duke players and feel that they are guilty until proven innocent. |
Sosodeath
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babygirl and lil ze are the only people making sense in this thread. |
Chrishayden
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The prosecutor is grandstanding until elections are over.
Unless Sis can pick some of these dudes out of a lineup and some of the other guys squeal the case will not go to trial. |
Tonya
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I feel you dobes.
Babygirl, you gotta copy of that article? and is it creditable--does it contain many facts? |
Chrishayden
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This is gonna be another Tawana Brawley case. The powers that be are moving to cover the boys. |
Tonya
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Limbaugh has spoken! How afraid Black men must be. Fall in line, Brothas. Can't tarnish that reputation. Not for the whole world to see - as if they don't already know you're niggers.
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Limbaugh called alleged Duke rape victim a "ho[ ]"
Summary: On his national syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh referred to the alleged victim of a rape by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "ho[]."
During the March 31 broadcast of his national syndicated radio program, Rush Limbaugh referred to the alleged victim of a rape by members of the Duke University lacrosse team as a "ho[]." During an on-air discussion with a caller, Limbaugh said that former Democratic presidential candidate Al Sharpton was "trying to figure out how he can get involved in the deal down there at Duke where the lacrosse team ... supposedly, you know, raped some, uh, hos." Limbaugh's made the comment about a recent incident in Durham, North Carolina, in which an exotic dancer was allegedly raped by three members of the Duke lacrosse team. The incident has invoked further controversy because the victim, an African-American, has alleged that her attackers used racial epithets. Prompted by another caller to apologize for his words, Limbaugh said that he had made the statement because he was "running on fumes today," and called it a "terrible slip of the tongue." But he then added that there are "some inconsistencies" in the case and rephrased his apology, telling the second caller, "I regret that you heard me say it."
From the March 31 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
CALLER 1: Why is it, do you think, that you haven't heard hardly anything from Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton about the whole immigration thing? I mean, the silence is deafening from --
LIMBAUGH: Well, they're busy.
CALLER 1: -- the NAACP [National Association for the Advancement of Colored People] and the --
LIMBAUGH: They're -- they're busy. They're busy. The Reverend Jackson is in New Orleans. He's leading a big march there tomorrow. The march is -- what is it called? The -- the march for the right to return a protected vote and reconstruction. He's trying to -- they got problems down in New Orleans. They don't have voter base, and Sharpton's working on a New Orleans deal, too. He's trying to figure out how he can get involved in the deal down there at Duke where the lacrosse team --
CALLER 1: Yeah.
LIMBAUGH: -- uh, supposedly, you know, raped, some, uh, hos.
CALLER 1: But I don't think they're very happy about all of this.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah, well, but, the problem -- that -- that has a possibility down -- that Duke thing's got a possibility of being a Tawana Brawley situation. That -- and Sharpton's got a balance -- can he afford another one of those as -- as his life's going on? New Orleans is a big deal to him, and I -- I'm gonna tell you something. You'll -- you'll see these guys -- at some point, they will get involved, be-because when Ted Kennedy calls it the new civil rights movement, that's Jesse Jackson's turf. He owns it. So --
CALLER 1: Right.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah, anyway, I gotta run here because of the constraints of time out there. [Caller], a great, great question. Uh, exotic dancer, OK, say rape -- whatever happened. You know what it is down there at Duke. It's -- you watch what happens in that. That's --
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LIMBAUGH: It's open-line Friday, and I am Rush Limbaugh, America's anchorman and your host for life. This is -- this is [caller] from Bryant, Texas. Hello, [caller], great to have you with us.
CALLER 2: Rush, did you just call those young ladies "hos" on the nationally syndicated program?
LIMBAUGH: Yes.
CALLER 2: Do you know something about them that perhaps we don't know?
LIMBAUGH: Yes, yes I did.
CALLER 2: Oh, you --
LIMBAUGH: It was a, it was -- hang on -- now, what, what did you say there, [caller]?
CALLER 2: I said, because -- and if they are hos, it doesn't mean that they can still -- you can do to 'em whatever you want.
LIMBAUGH: No.
CALLER 2: Well, why would you call them hos on the national --
LIMBAUGH: Well, because, because I'm running on fumes today, [caller], and I felt terrible about it. And I knew somebody was gonna call and give me a little grief so I'm takin' the occasion of your call to apologize for it. That was, it was a terrible slip of the tongue. I'm sorry. But it wasn't the worst one that has been said recently. You want -- do you know who Keanu Reeves is?
CALLER 2: Yeah, I know who he is. He's an actor.
LIMBAUGH: Well, he's, he's, he's an actor.
CALLER 2: Yeah.
LIMBAUGH: He's a whacko. He's, he's an -- an actor and, he -- what was he doing? He was -- the Women Against Domestic Violence group was already in a dither because Keanu Reeves told an interviewer he learned something filming a rape scene with Hilary Swank for a movie called The Gift. And he said was, what he learned was that some of these ladies don't mind it.
CALLER 2: OK. But --
LIMBAUGH: He said he learned that in a rape scene but -- so, you know, I'm not the worst offender.
CALLER 2: Well, I hope you --
LIMBAUGH: I just, I'm looking at this case down there at Duke, [caller], and it's -- there's some things about it, some inconsistencies. You've got some timeline differentiations and matriculations and, and so forth. I'm just -- but it was, it was terrible slip of the tongue, and I am, I am terribly, I am terribly sorry.
CALLER 2: Well, I was hoping that your animosity for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton wasn't your motivation for calling them hos.
LIMBAUGH: No -- why -- they, they have nothing to do with it.
CALLER 2: Oh, OK. Well, but, I -- it definitely offended me to hear you say that on the national program. The world's largest -- as you say.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah, well --
CALLER 2: But maybe you should take half your brain from behind your back next time.
LIMBAUGH: You know, I'm thinking what I ought to do, [caller], is something that I used to do in the early days of this program and that is spank myself.
CALLER 2: Well, I don't know if that's gonna work. The apology would be good.
LIMBAUGH: I just -- how -- you want me to apologize again? I'm sorry.
CALLER 2: Oh, no, I'm saying -- the apology was good.
LIMBAUGH: I regret that you heard me say it.
--B.F.
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Babygirl
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Tonya, I don't speak from any article. My personal opinion comes from my being privvy to legal associations within this community and my communications with persons directly associated with this case.
And Chris is correct, the "powers" are moving swiftly to protect their own, most especially since the DNA, as well as some very graphic photos which have yet to be released, corroborated what every defendent has stated from day one. As well, not only is the DA grandstanding, but he's insuring that when this blows up on the "victim", now only will it blow big, but it will put him in the position of acting swiftly for retribution against her for perjury, further solidifying his political career.
As well, in my humble opinion, what will be the final nail in her coffin, will be if she does point a finger at any lineup if she's bold enough to go that route. If charges are filed and they do prosecute, they will eat her alive, exposing every dirty little secret she might have had and when they're done, her own father won't recognize the daughter he so whole-heartedly believes.
If the truth were on her side, she'd be able to ride this wave without a care in the world. Unfortunately, I think she's going to sink before she ever gets an opportunity to even think about treading water.
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Chrishayden
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Re Limbaugh:
See what I told you about Al and the Tawanna situation? They got the cat running scared on those cases. They're just laying for him.
The case won't go to trial. If these boys are well connected she will wind up saying she doesn't want to prosecute because she can't stand the media pressure--which has been brought on her for just that purpose. |
Chrishayden
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<<Those of you who jumped on the OJ is guilty bandwagon are about to see what happens when the media gets its marching orders and goes to work--
My advice: if you are ever invited to dance at a private party and you don't know the people and can't take a couple of bodyguards pass on it
Report: Attacker Didn't Mention Duke, Athletes at Hospital
Prayer vigil scheduled at Duke
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"She was hysterical. She was crying. She was pretty banged up. She said she was sexually assaulted, but she didn't say by whom," the staff member told ESPN The Magazine's Eric Adelson.
The staff member went on to say the sexual assault nurse found injuries in the woman's pelvic area.
"She never said one thing about Duke, any athlete or anything," the source said. "She just kept hollering and screaming. She never said who did it."
Standing before a mostly black audience, the district attorney in charge of the Duke University rape investigation said Tuesday he does not need DNA to bring charges and vowed, "This case is not going away."
District Attorney Mike Nifong spoke one day after defense attorneys said DNA testing failed to connect any of Duke's lacrosse players to the alleged attack on a black stripper who said she was raped at a party by members of the nearly all-white 47-man team.
Nifong stopped short of confirming the defense assessment of the DNA results, but said the case would not be hampered by a lack of DNA evidence.
"It doesn't mean nothing happened," Nifong said at a public forum at North Carolina Central University, where the 27-year-old alleged victim is a student. "It just means nothing was left behind."
No charges have been filed.
Nifong said prosecutors were awaiting a second set of DNA results, but did not say how those differed from the tests reported Monday. Nifong added that in 75 percent to 80 percent of sexual assaults, there is no DNA evidence to analyze.
The district attorney said a rape case can built on testimony from the alleged victim and other witnesses. Nifong also said the hospital exam of the woman has led him to believe a crime occurred at the March 13 party.
According to court documents, a doctor and a specially trained nurse found the alleged victim had "signs, symptoms and injuries consistent with being raped and sexually assaulted."
"My presence here means this case is not going away," Nifong said to applause from an audience of about 700.
The allegations have led to days of protests on and off the Duke campus and heightened racial tensions around Durham.
Some students at North Carolina Central, a historically black university a few miles away, assailed Nifong for his handling of the case and the media for its portrayal of the alleged victim.
"You all know if this happened at Central and the young lady was from another school or another `persuasion,' the outcome would have been different," said Toloupe Omokaiye, suggesting to applause from the crowd that the alleged attackers would have been jailed already.
Nifong said that he has never engaged in racial favoritism and that arresting suspects too quickly could harm the case.
"I have been criticized by both sides in this case," he said. "There have been people who have said that I should have given up this case a long time ago, and there are people who have said I should have already indicted, moved against somebody with some charges. The fact is that this case is proceeding the way a case should proceed."
Nifong later told a questioner, who asserted the victim had positively identified her three attackers, that her information was wrong.
The district attorney faces two challengers in a May 2 primary election. Asked by a member of the audience about the campaign, he said: "As the district attorney, you do not get to choose what crimes occur and when they occur. This is not about an election. This is about justice."
Nifong refused to take any questions from reporters after the forum.
Bill Thomas, a defense attorney for one of the team captains, urged the accuser to recant, saying he believes she made up the allegations to avoid a charge of public drunkenness.
"It is my sincere hope that she comes forward and tells the truth in this matter and allows these young men to go on with their lives and for this community to heal," Thomas said.
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Tonya
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"Bill Thomas, a defense attorney for one of the team captains, urged the accuser to recant, saying he believes she made up the allegations to avoid a charge of public drunkenness."
She has enough guts to "dance at a private party and don't know the people and can't take a couple of bodyguards," as you just put it, Chris, but she's afraid to pick up "a charge of public drunkenness." Puleeze! I don't believe your legal connections, Babygirl. Not saying I don't believe you. I DO!!!
....So don't whip me. |
Babygirl
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That's neither here nor there, Tonya. Folks are already alleging every conspiracy theory imaginable to give credence to the "victims" story including that the DNA was tampered with because people want to believe what they want to believe, right or wrong.
Trust me when I tell you that there is a vast community, in and outside of Duke, who want to believe her, are standing in support of her, and are willing to move mountains to give her a voice.
But you can certainly trust that when this is all over the defense will have done everything within their power to leave this woman without an ounce of dignity, will tarnish her credibility beyond repair, completely devastate her family, and will leave many who are standing in support of her questioning their own judgment. They're being paid top dollar to do so, by very old Duke money and that good old boy network is out in full force to achieve just that goal. The pictures, her past indiscretions which are alleged to include some fraudulant behavior will unravel the "truth" of whatever did or didn't happen in that house in everyone's favor except hers.
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Tonya
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I agree with all of that except my judgment will stay the same. Like I said, the VICTIM would have to PROVE to me that this incident DID NOT occur. I feel that way basically because I concur with what you are now saying. |
Serenasailor
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What I don't understand is why we can't be more like the old southern white folks and lynch first then ask questions later. |
Doberman23
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i dont think mike tyson raped that girl who ruined his life ... which prolly would've been ruined anyways, but just not as fast. |
Sosodeath
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"What I don't understand is why we can't be more like the old southern white folks and lynch first then ask questions later."
And what if whites wanted to do that with blacks who were ACCUSED of raping white women? Today. 2006. |
Sosodeath
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If someone raped my sister, I would want to murder that person. If someone falesly accused my brother of rape, I would want to murder THAT person. |
Chrishayden
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 02:42 pm: |
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You can't lynch because the white folks would kill negroes down there after that like you ain't never seen.
You must be forgetting who got all the guns in this motha. I know you are angry and frustrated. Go ahead. Vent.
Next week there will be another atrocity for you to focus on. Probably 100 women were raped in this country alone yesterday who ain't getting any attention--they are just at home crying and nobody is even getting charged for one reason or another.
I thought we were supposed to be better than wanting somebody lynched. I thought we objected to people being executed without trial.
We are the minority in this country. If it comes to lynching we are the ones who are going to get lynched. |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:32 pm: |
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"lynching first and asking questions later". is why emmit till was murdered. lets use our heads, and not be so emotional. |
Chrishayden
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Post Number: 2058
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 04:50 pm: |
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They are going to work on that sister. The media has its marching orders--nothing is going to happen to these boys for raping some black woman.
They have released the statement by the cop that he found her passed out drunk but otherwise allright. You would think the State would try to keep that under wraps if they were serious as they have been coming on. The defense attorneys are going to have a field day with her.
And then the prosecutor TRIED to search the dorms but they wouldn't let them. Excuse me? They wouldn't let them?
Somebody will say they needed a warrant. Did Fuhrman need a warrant when he "found" that glove? Rest assured when they go back they will find nothing--not that nothing was there before hand.
Now, all you who told us we need to judge OJ because of what the media says, let me tell you what you have. You have a black woman, unmarried with two children. She is an exotic dancer. She goes to dance for a housefull of men having a drunken party. She is found passed out drunk later. And they are all fine young white men who were on the lacross team.
What is being implied? You have some black whore getting drunk and waking up without all the money she was going to make off these fine young Americans and screaming rape. But of course I'm supposed to take up her side and not see that. But OJ was guilty. Because the same media said so. Hmmm.
This is a hard ugly lesson. Kola, you are always talking about how we are the most powerful blacks in the world. We must be in terrible shape when we have to sit and watch this go down unable to do anything.
Imagine what that woman and her family and her children are going through now.
Women, I know the money is great "dancing" but it is better to work at Wal-Mart. Didn't anybody see that movie "The Player's Club"? |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 414
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 02:16 am: |
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Lynching is just a metaphor. I want the white man to know that maybe we didn't have the power in the past but now we do, and we will not stand by and helplessly watch while you rape our sisters, mothers, aunts, and grandmothers. Slavery days are over, and we will defend our families at all cost.
Again like I said before, these "gentlemen" and I use the term very loosely learn at a very early age that they can do whatever they want with a black woman, and that no negro man will ever do any thing about it. We must prove him wrong!! The white man is challenging our black manhood like he has been doing for centuries. |
Shyfox
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 09:40 am: |
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"They have released the statement by the cop that he found her passed out drunk but otherwise allright."
My response to that is, how did he know that she was unconscious because she was drunk and not because of some other reason. Did he give her a breathelyzer(sp?) or did he do a blood test on the spot? If not, how did he know that she was drunk. If he did neither, then this cop is basically saying that he saw an unconscious person who he did not try to help.
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Tonya
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Post Number: 2281
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That cop apparently did not know why she was responding the way that she was, and ASSUMED it was because of drunkenness, and nothing else. Only now that we are aware of the charges, can we (and probably that cop) understand that there was more to her behavior than just her being drunk. Of course, the defense attorneys and white media are going to SPIN it into a case of a drunken "whore" gone badly; who, because of her "impairment," cannot know what happened to her and hallucinated the charges she says took place. Which is absurd, because, regardless of being drunk or not, as a woman who has been FUUUUUUCCCCKKKED UP (!!!), totally shit-faced on weed and alcohol more than a few times, there's NEVER been a time when I was so intoxicated that I wouldn't have known if I'd been ganged raped or not. In fact, as fucked up as I've been during these times, a nigga acting stupid has been EXACTLY the sort of thing that has blown my high. So, I submit that when that cop found her, she was devastated; no longer drunk--the moment they began attacking her, them Duke Players blew her high....
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Shyfox
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 10:05 pm: |
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But do we know that she was drunk? All we know is that he found her passed out. Has there been any evidence that she had consumed alcohol or drugs. Surely blood tests done at the hospital would show if she had or not. I don't see how this helps the defense. It clearly shows that something happened to this young woman because she was found passed out. the drunkenness part was added by the cop and was not shown by any objective test or evidence; there is not proof of it. that is, as far as I know. Has anyone heard anything different? |
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