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Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 02:43 am: | 
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Do you view these men as Black?
Or simply passing for White?
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Chrishayden
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Username: Chrishayden
Post Number: 2021
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 10:45 am: |
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Who are they? |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1919
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |
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Those men are WHITE. Any idiot with decent vision can look at them and see what color they are.
If Henry Louis Gates has taken a test that shows he's 50% WHITE then just how white do you think Vin Diesel is??? OBVIOUSLY--he's a WHITE MAN with some African heritage.
The American Slavemaster's one drop rule was bogus from the very beginning and only worked because through SLAVERY and SEGREGATION---these Non-Black Mixed people were FORCED to share the same culture with Blacks.
But those days are over and rapidly fading
...and when Oh when will Black Americans stop insulting Africa and Authentic Black People by supporting the racist notion that just anybody can be a black person???
Can anybody just be white?
Can anybody just be Asian?
DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF "Self-respect" and why this could be so insulting to African people???
Why is it OK to disrespect us in the name of YOUR SLAVE MASTER just because you don't know any better?
Denzel Washington is a BLACK MAN---not Vin Diesel.
Sheryl Lee Ralph is a BLACK WOMAN--not Mariah Carey.
And I'm so glad that DE-SEGREGATION and multi-culturalism is going to finally FORCE you to wake the fuck up and discover what "BLACK PEOPLE" are.
And everybody in Africa is NOT BLACK. Respect them when they tell you the fucking truth.
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1920
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 12:47 pm: |
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People "PASSING" for Black:
Nicole Richie
Kimmora Simmons
Vin Diesel
The Rock
Mariah Carey
Ishamel Reed
Harry Belafonte
Lena Horne
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4297
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 01:18 pm: |
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Here we go again. The soap opera queen is back, exiling people from the race, ready to start spouting all of her nigger stock BS again. Who pushed the re-wind button? Yawnnnn. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1921
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 01:27 pm: |
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1922
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 01:33 pm: |
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And, YOU Cynique....are the PRIME EXAMPLE of the American SLAVE MENTALITY.
But being that you're over 70 years old, it's NO WONDER that you're so closely tied to Slave Thought. Just about everything out of your mouth is in support of what your slave master made "FAMILIAR" to you.
You don't "yawn"---you wither.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4298
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 01:48 pm: |
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Off your meds again, kola nut? When are you going to realize, as you run on the treadmill of your delusions that in the real world your opinions and contentions carry very little weight. Age is just a number, babe, which is way a 47 year old fool like you continues to function like a fantasizing 16 year old. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1923
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 02:15 pm: |
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Cynique....
rant and lie all you want.
But you will never talk me into being a slave.
You say the American Whites treat me better because I'm an African immigrant--but that's because I know something that your stupid ass don't wanna know!
You'll always be a slave--because that's what's familiar to you.
NOT ME.
And I tried to tell you.
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Sosodeath
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Username: Sosodeath
Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 02:56 pm: |
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I agree with Kola that blacks disrespect our heritage by "claiming" mixed race individuals or counting them among our ranks. It's ridiculous to even entertain the notion that Vin Diesel, Wentworth Miller, or even Ms. Boof herself, are black. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 392
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 03:25 pm: |
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I never viewed any of these men as black, nor Mariah Carey. Ask yourself are these men married to black women? Do they have black children? Do they love and support the black community? Would they marry an authentic black woman such as Roshumba, Loryn Hill, Gabrielle Union, Nia Long?
From what I see they don't. They are just the products of black self-hatred that I was talking about in my earlier post. And one can only ownder if there black parent hated blackness one can only guess how they must feel about it. I don't view my own nieces as black. They are bi-racial, and that is it.
Also, Sosodeath Kola is more black than your NIGGER ass will ever be Biyatch. So watch your fucking mouth. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 393
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 03:28 pm: |
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Now who I do have respect for is Barak Obama. Although being a bi-racial man he married an authentic black woman and has two darkskinned daughters. |
Sosodeath
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 04:11 pm: |
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Also, Sosodeath Kola is more black than your NIGGER ass will ever be Biyatch. So watch your fucking mouth.
So "blackness" is just a state of mind to you and has nothing to do with ancestry? We can reject some mulattoes and accept others if they "walk the walk?" What a joke. You would probably accept Vin Diesel if he DEFILED a pure black woman, so low is your racial self esteem. |
Sosodeath
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 04:16 pm: |
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The truly frustrating thing is that I don't even know if this Serenasailor character is even black himself. |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4299
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 04:26 pm: |
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I'm laughing, kola nut, you're the one ranting. You are the one who has just sold your soul to the white devils, prostituting your writing skills to finance your ego-trip, trying to convince everybody you have noble ulterior motives, when you ain't no difference from nobody else, except for being a little more crazy and a little more full of bullshit. LMAO. As for me being a slave, find another rationale for your failed hopes, I am as free as a bird because I think for myself and do as I damn well please, as opposed to you who are shackled to an ideology that is nothing more than an exercise in pouting and sulking and pretending. And the thing is, is that the longer I live, the more free I become. You and your syncopants need to get real. You're all a bunch of vacuous vacillaters. |
Shyfox
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:01 pm: |
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Don't know Wentworth Miller. Have any of these people referred to themselves as black? |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 395
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:14 pm: |
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Sosodeath, blackness is a state of mind and ancestry. There are black ppl who are genetically black, but hate black culture i.e Wesley Snipes, Kobe Bryant, and Clarence Thomas. Therefore they are not really black. Then there are black ppl who are not genetically black but love our culture i.e Halle Berry, Barak Obama, and Malcolm X.
Also, Sosodeath I am more blacker than your punk uncle Tom, Sambo ass will ever be bitch. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1924
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:42 pm: |
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Sorry to spoil your revelrie, Sosodeath---but I'm going by the AFRICAN standard, which is ANCIENT, not "scientific", and requires only that you (a) possess the crown--nappy hair (b) have some shade of brown skin and (b-2) have Africoid features matching your particular tribe/region--whether that be Nilotic, Negro, Pygmy, East African Nilotic or Bantu.
In other words--Henry Louis Gates, who is 50% White---would be considered "Black" by our African standard. Because he LOOKS more than anything else...Black.
And high yellows Redd Fox and Toni Morrison, by our standard, would be considered "BLACK"---because of their hair and facial features. They LOOK like us. Ditto Malcolm X.
My Birth Father, Harith Bin Farouk, felt very strongly that he was BLACK....but, of course, his skin and hair wasn't showing it. So he married my charcoal mother.
I prefer and respect the AFRICAN standard, which is the only "Black People's" standard there has ever been......LONG BEFORE YOUR SLAVE MASTER OR BLACK AMERICANS.....the standard shared by the ENTIRE PLANET (except in slave plantation America) that whoever looks White is WHITE...whoever looks Mixed is MIXED...and whoever looks Black is BLACK.
As Lena Horne can tell you....she was never referred to as "black" when she toured and performed in EUROPE. And she appreciated that they acknowledged her mixed blood and had separate categories for people who look mixed and people who are Black. ONLY in the United States do they force "everybody" with any African heritage into the BLACK column.
In Uganda and Tanzania--actress Halle Berry was shocked to discover that she was considered "our WHITE child" when her James Bond movies played there.
Of course, if you look at Ugandan and Tanzanian city crowds---you'll see why the people called her "our WHITE child".
The ONLY REASON that Black Americans want to claim Mariah Carey as a "black woman" is because you so deeply hate the sight of India Arie and Lauryn Hill---REAL black women who look like your African ancestors---and you can feel better about your "colorist" habits and you want to BREED WHITER and ease your Self-hatred by still calling yourselves "black"....whenever it's convenient.
In AFRICA...we love, accept and admire all races of people in all different colors. But we DO NOT insult and disallow Black people by letting Non-blacks represent them....and we, of course, are THE black people. The alpha and omega of what is black.
ON THE DAY that Cicely Tyson's one drop of White Blood allows her to be called a "dark skinned WHITE WOMAN"-----is the day that I will call Vin Diesel a "black man". He is not Black, he is WHITE.
And though I am "technically" Bi-racial...
just like MOST Bi-racials in Egypt and Sudan...I AM BLACK.
Dark Brown and nappy headed with Nilotic facial features---what Africans consider to be "BLACK"....be it me or TIGER WOODS, whom they also would consider "Black".
Wentworth Miller is not Black, DOH.
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1925
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 07:51 pm: |
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blackness is a state of mind and ancestry. There are black ppl who are genetically black, but hate black culture i.e Wesley Snipes, Kobe Bryant, and Clarence Thomas. Therefore they are not really black.
This is not true.
Blackness is NOT a state of mind.
BLACK BLOOD determines who is Black.
If that Black blood is OVER-POWERED by some other blood...then the person is not black.
These men are "traitors"---but they are still authentically BLACK.
Amy Goodman, a White Jewish woman, whose state of mind is "PRO-black" is not a Black Person just because she's down for Black causes.
The people of KENYA would never refer to Obama Barack as "Black". They would call him "Kenyan" and "Half-Caste". Not Black--because the whiteness is VISIBLE when placed next to them.
Tiger Woods, however, they would call "black"---because in Africa, he LOOKS black. Just barely.
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Roxie
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Username: Roxie
Post Number: 771
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 08:12 pm: |
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--"...requires only that you (a) possess the crown--nappy hair (b) have some shade of brown skin and (b-2) have Africoid features matching your particular tribe/region--whether that be Nilotic, Negro, Pygmy, East African Nilotic or Bantu. "--
And All this time I worried about not fitting the criteria. 
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Sosodeath
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 08:25 pm: |
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Sorry to spoil your revelrie, Sosodeath---but I'm going by the AFRICAN standard, which is ANCIENT, not "scientific", and requires only that you (a) possess the crown--nappy hair (b) have some shade of brown skin and (b-2) have Africoid features matching your particular tribe/region--whether that be Nilotic, Negro, Pygmy, East African Nilotic or Bantu.
Sorry, Kola, but there has never been universal African standard on "blackness."
In other words--Henry Louis Gates, who is 50% White---would be considered "Black" by our African standard. Because he LOOKS more than anything else...Black.
No, he looks like what he is...a mulatto.
And high yellows Redd Fox and Toni Morrison, by our standard, would be considered "BLACK"---because of their hair and facial features. They LOOK like us. Ditto Malcolm X.
No, they look like Y'ALL. They don't look like unmixed black Africans.
My Birth Father, Harith Bin Farouk, felt very strongly that he was BLACK....but, of course, his skin and hair wasn't showing it. So he married my charcoal mother.
Right, and Bill Clinton was the first BLACK president.
I prefer and respect the AFRICAN standard, which is the only "Black People's" standard there has ever been......LONG BEFORE YOUR SLAVE MASTER OR BLACK AMERICANS.....the standard shared by the ENTIRE PLANET (except in slave plantation America) that whoever looks White is WHITE...whoever looks Mixed is MIXED...and whoever looks Black is BLACK.
Of course you prefer that standard. You're a mulatto who thinks she's black.
In AFRICA...we love, accept and admire all races of people in all different colors. But we DO NOT insult and disallow Black people by letting Non-blacks represent them....and we, of course, are THE black people. The alpha and omega of what is black.
Amazing. A mulatto declares herself the alpha and omega of blackness.
ON THE DAY that Cicely Tyson's one drop of White Blood allows her to be called a "dark skinned WHITE WOMAN"-----is the day that I will call Vin Diesel a "black man". He is not Black, he is WHITE.
No, Vin Diesel is mixed race (he actually has kinky hair, which is probably why keeps it bald), just like you.
And though I am "technically" Bi-racial...
Technically? LOL Your FATHER is ARAB, for crying out loud.
just like MOST Bi-racials in Egypt and Sudan...I AM BLACK.
Biracials in Egpyt and Sudan do not equate themselves with black Africans (nor should they), and would be deeply insulted by you calling them black. Hell, many of them consider themselves "Arab." |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4301
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 10:02 pm: |
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Words, words, words. Words are nothing by symbols and syllabels and sounds, utilized in order to facilitate communication but inadequate when it comes to capturing truth and reality in their entirety. kola boof is a wordsmith. She uses words to construct a universe that she is the center of, a trumped-up existence where what she says goes. A never-never land. And I will use my words to portray her as a frustrated, resentful creature unhappy with her lot in life, someone who craves recognition and revenge and adulation, someone completely consumed by the empty words she uses to describe herself and all who conforms to her warped standards. My final words on this subject is THANK THE LORD I am not anything that kola boof approves of because her approval is sheer folly, a ticket to nowhere in a world that does not abide by her words. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1926
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2006 - 11:39 pm: |
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Sorry, Kola, but there has never been universal African standard on "blackness."
Yes there is...I just broke it down for you.
And it's like there IN EVERY CORNER of the African continent---just as I described.
And Bi-racials with BLACK SKIN and NAPPY HAIR in EGYPT and SUDAN are called....."Black Arab"....by the Arabs and derisively by the Charcoals.
Arab is a "language group"---meaning all who speak Arabic. Self-hating Black Egyptians and Sudanese try to claim that they are ARAB.
I don't.
I am Black. And yes, Arab.
And no matter where I go
in AFRICA...they consider me
"Black".
But not Halle Berry.
So how do you explain that
SosoDeath????
WHY do Africans consider me a
"Black woman" but not Halle Berry?
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Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 61
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 10:14 am: |
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http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=Ten2Watch2005&content=jump&nav=actors&ar ticleID=VR1117930475
In interviews they've inquired about his racial background, and he is as follows:
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When asked about your race, what do you tell people? --Soycheng, Vancouver, Washington
I say I'm of mixed race, and if they ask for specifics, I rattle off the details: My mother is Russian, French, Syrian, Lebanese and Dutch; my father is African-American, Jamaican, English, German and part Cherokee.
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The guy has pretty much descended into whiteness. But he is still being labeled as just a Black man--despite his very little black blood. I don't even view him as being multiracial--that's too far fetched for his case.
There have been ppl who have been up in arms about labeling guys like him in particular, and Vin Diesel as NOT being Black. I don't understand it, when they pretty much have lived their life as white men anyway--and most likely they will marry white women and go about their business. They have very little (none) connection to Black culture.
Is it because White ppl have a hard time seeing men like them as anything other but Black? |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 10:20 am: |
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http://www.nicole-richie.org/gallery/xtras/childhood/childhood.htm
http://www.nicole-richie.org/gallery/xtras/childhood/childhood.htm
http://www.nicole-richie.org/gallery/xtras/childhood/childhood.htm
As a child Nicole Richie, looked more biracial/multiracial.
Now she looks like an racially ambiguous Toucan Sam
http://www.nicole-richie.org/
http://www.nicole-richie.org/
http://www.nicole-richie.org/
She defintely considers herself 'Black'. There was an episode of the 'Simple Life' where she was telling this young white guy she was a 'black woman', and the dude was so shocked like, 'Oh my god, you're Black. Really?" So disturbing.
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Lil_ze
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I JUST THINK ITS INTERESTING THAT AN AFRICAN LIKE KOLA BOOF, HAS SO MUCH TO SAT ABOUT OUR PEOPLE. WHAT I SAY OUR PEOPLE I MEAN THOSE OF US WHO ARE THE DESCENDENTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ENSLAVED AND THE SOLD AND SCATTERED THROUGHUOT NORTH, SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA. IN THE LAND THAT IS CALLED AFRICA, THERE ARE DIFFERENT RACES THAT HAVE DARK SKIN. THE BUSHMEN ARE CLEARLY DIFFERENT RACIALLY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DWELL IN THE REGION OF NIGERIA, AND THE PEOPLE WHO DWELL IN ETHIOPIA, SOMALIA, AND ERITRIA ARE DIFFERENT RACIALLY THAN THE GROUPS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE NORTH AFRICANS HAVE DARK SKIN BUT ARE DIFFERENT RACIALLY. MY POINT BEING DARK SKIN DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME RACE. THE BLACK AMERICANS, WEST INDIANS, ETC, WERE ENSLAVED AND SOLD OUT OF THE LAND MASS CALLED AFRICA. IT DOES NOT MEAN WE (THE PEOPLE WHO'S ANCESTORS CAME TO THE AMERICAS ON SLAVE SHIPS) ARE THE SAME RACIALLY AS KOLA BOOF AND HER AFRICAN CO-HORTS. WE KNOW THE AFRICANS ALONG WITH KOLA BOOF'S OTHER PEOPLE THE ARABS, SOLD OUR ANCESTORS TO THE WHITE MAN. AFRICAN ARE VERY JEALOUS OF OUR PEOPLE, AND KOLA BOOF IS FURTHER PROOF OF THIS. YOU JUST NEED TO READ HER POSTS TO SEE THIS. OUR PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT KOLA BOOF IS A STRANGER. SHE IS ATTEMPTING TO DIVIDE AND CONFUSE OUR PEOPLE. DON'T ALLOW THE CHILDREN (KOLA BOOF)OF THOSE WHO ENSLAVED US, DECEIVE US. KOLA WHY DON'T YOU SAVE YOU'RE THOUGHTS FOR YOU'RE OWN AFRICAN COUNTRYMEN. STOP TRYING TO DEFAME OUR PEOPLE, WHO YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART ARE MORE BEAUTIFUL, INTELLIGENT, SMARTER, AND SUPERIOR TO YOU AND YOU'RE AFRICAN COUNTRYMEN. THIS IS WHY MOST OF YOU'RE COMMENTS ARE GEARED TOWARD SPEAKING NEGATIVLY TOWARD OUR WOMEN (WHO ARE SO MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN YOU AFRICANS COULD EVER BE). AGAIN, LETS NOT LET OUR ENIMIES FOOL US! |
Renata
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Post Number: 899
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 05:54 pm: |
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"Is it because White ppl have a hard time seeing men like them as anything other but Black?"
No. The one drop rule basically says, "if you have even ONE drop of black blood, we DON'T WANT YOU. Only PURE white blood is good enough for us."
But as Kola said, "ON THE DAY that Cicely Tyson's one drop of White Blood allows her to be called a "dark skinned WHITE WOMAN"-----is the day that I will call Vin Diesel a "black man". He is not Black, he is WHITE." |
Renata
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Post Number: 900
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Lil_ze, your comments offend me to my heart. I'm an African American, and I know for a fact that Americans are not more beautiful than Africans.
African Americans are beautiful, but it's only because we haven't yet lost our African genes. I look at my very light skinned son and I'm PROUD and HAPPY that his big lips and thick, nappy hair (which he got from me) still links him to Africa and is PROOF that he has AFRICAN blood. ANY OTHER blood he has is guessed and speculated upon, but his AFRICAN genes are APPARENT.....and that's what makes him beautiful.
You offend me because you equate "American MIXED blood" as MORE BEAUTIFUL than African NON-MIXED blood. Remember, it's racism similar to this that said that white blood is better than mixed blood, and mixed is better than black.
And people WONDER what the hell is meant when a color HIERARCHY is mentioned.
I would probably AGREE with you if you said that the Black Americans and Black Africans are DIFFERENT. But you're only showing your BIAS when you ASSUME that Black Americans are MORE BEAUTIFUL than Black Africans.
Just because you were raised in a society that teaches us that Light is better than Dark, white better black, and MIXED black American is better than PURE African, doesn't make it true. |
Renata
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Post Number: 901
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 06:09 pm: |
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The white man enslaved us, also. But HIS RULES on who's black and who we must accept is the GOSPEL in this hemisphere. |
Lil_ze
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 07:25 pm: |
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renata, i appreciate you're comments. what im trying to show is that there is no such thing as an african. that land mass was named after a white man. you repeatedly state mixed american blood. the black american, west indians, etc. we are a nation. we are NOT some diluted or water down unpure version of the "african". we are a distinct ethnic racial group. im not trying to imply anything about mixed blood or pure blood. im saying that our nation is more beautiful and we are superior to the dark nations in africa. again its not african blood, nor is it african genes. the majority of the nations on earth are dark skin people. you're sons physical characteristics are not because of "african genes". our people look the way we look because we are a distinct racial group. it does a disservice to our people to say we look the way we look because of mixed blood. this is a trick the slave master used to trick us. i find it kind of sad that our people will stand up and say that we are not more beautiful than the african, when its very clear that we are. the dark nations that dwell in africa (with the exception of our people who went back to liberia)look absolutly nothing like we do. and again this is not because of mixed blood. we are a distinct people. its not about light skin or dark skin. because our people who are lighter that some of our other people are no less authentic than any of our other people. the darker skin ones of our people, michael jordan or wesely snipes, are clearly more beautiful than any africans could ever be. not because there blood is mixed, but because we are our own special,distinct nation. the nations in africa understand that we are a different people than they are. thats why all the african nation who have seats in the united nations have never once said let our brothers come home. when marcus garvey wanted to return our people to africa on the black star line. the nigerians said they would NOT allow the ships to come into nigeria. why, because they understand we are NOT their people. when menilik of ethopia was in rulership in ethiopia during the 1920's. a delegation of black americans went to ethiopia to give him due for being in power. menilik would not see the delegation. he refused to see them. why because the ethiopian understand that we are not their people. we don't have to look around the world for who we are, we just have to look in the mirror. we are and always wiil be superior. not because of mixed blood. we are not who we are, and look the way we look because of mixed blood. all these ideas were put in our heads, as an effort to destroy our identity. this is why we are looking to africa, for who we are. our people are in brazil, cuba, columbia, the west indies, central america. north, south and central america. we were, and are a nation. those who enslaved us will do anything in their power to try and keep us in the dark about our identity. we are the most beautiful nation on earth. we don't have to feel bad about saying so. all the other nation dark skin or not envy us and want to be just like us. we should feel proud of who we are. |
Shyfox
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Lil ze, I have to agree with Renata. Your comments offend me also. We are not more beautiful than or superior to the dark nations of Africa. None are superior. There is no such thing as a superior race and an inferior race. This is just some nonsense perpetrated by racists to gain control of the whole earth. The Lord gave dominion of the earth to mankind (all of us). A certain few came along and wanted to possess the whole thing for their benefit only. Racism is one tool that they used to accomplish this. Again, there is no such thing as superior and inferior people. We are all created beings; the color of our skin, the texture of our hair, the color of our eyes, etc. are things that we cannot take the credit or the blame for. God gave us these attributes; He created us. |
Renata
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Those who enslaved us WILL try anything to keep us in the dark about our identity. Which is why we can look into the face of an AFRICAN and tell them they are inferior to us, and look into the face of a mexican or an asian and call them BROTHER.
I can understand if you want to believe we are DIFFERENT from Africans, but I will never believe we are BETTER than they are. The only people native to America are the native Americans.
Whether Africans accept me or not, doesn't change the fact that I'm African. Whether we want to be African or not, doesn't change the fact that I'm African, so I could care less if I'm accepted back into Africa. I have no people in any of the western hemisphere except north america, and they're black people, and many of them look EXACTLY like Ghanians, Gambians, Nigerians. That I don't know exactly where I'm from, doesn't change the fact that I'm from there.
Ethiopians wouldn't allow us, because they don't like dark skinned Negroes...which most of us were at the time. We are not the people of the ethiopians. THEY KNOW THAT, WE DON'T. We don't know exactly where we're from, so we have a "get in where you fit in" mentality towards Africa. No Scotsman will go to Europe, and expect to be accepted as a Franc or a German. The difference is, he knows he's a Scotsman versus something else.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
And since you believe there are "inferiors" and "superiors" in this world, what people would you say is OUR superior? If you accept the notion that there is a hierarchy, you must accept that you aren't necessarily on the top.
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Doberman23
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lil_ze
your comments are just what the doctor ordered.
...now i can easily find a post or two. where a bunch of ya'll said that mixed ppl, half breeds, high yellards , or whatever bull shit name you want to call someone who happens to be a lighter shade of brown, are full of shit for trying to make their own race. ... now we have one person on here who thinks that she has the ultimate universal measuring stick to state whether someone is black or white and you dumb fucks just sit there and follow like sheep. you don't like what lil ze is saying then you shouldn't like what kola is saying because it's exactly the same thing but in reverse.
2ndly you all need to stop acting like all africans are wanting to be linked to your asses whether your light or dark ... half of the african men come to america not looking for lisa mcdowell but for mandy, melissa, or amy.
now i am not going to say that black americans are better than africans, but i will say for damn sure they aren't better than us either, for every fucked up thing we do in america, africa can match that.
renata
lil ze has the right to have black american pride the same way kola has african pride, you see how lil ze sort of used an example or two to show why he thought black americans where a better stock, and sort of belittled africans? well take a look at half of kola's comments and you will see the exact samething but it is for africans being of better black stock than black americans ...where is your complaint then?
serenasailor ... are you a fag or something? you shouldn't worry who someone else is bangin' unless you planned on getting your stab on with that person. your brother married that spanish chick because that's who he wanted to be with just because someone doesn't holla' at who you want them too, does not mean shit. have a coke and a smile and you know the rest.
cynique i'm really starting to feel u on this tired ass subject, i think this is the last time i bother on any more post's like this. |
Brownbeauty123
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Ethiopians are a group of mixed race black people? Are all of them like that?
Well, I agree with a lot of what Kola says
but I don't think that lightskin people are any less Black than the darkskin ones--for example I view people like Raven Symone, Tisha Campbell, Beyonce Knowles, Jada Pinkett as Black women.
Jasmine Guy, Alicia Keys, Halle Berry, Lenny Kravitz, Cree Summers are biracial people who identify with their black heritage--they are biracial and not Black.
And most African Americans can tell the difference between a biracial/multi and a Black person--why society thinks there is not a different astounds me. |
Brownbeauty123
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Doberman--
Wentworth Miller IS white--and so is Vin Diesel.
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Doberman23
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my girl and I, are supposed to go to ethiopia next year, i will let you know how my experiences are. i will tell you this, alot of her family tend to be on the carmel colored side (she looks like aliyah) but when they show me photos of her city it looks like alot of complextions of brown where floating around there. haiti is the only place where i've been personally where everyone was dark skinned with the exception of these two twin albino boys, they also didn't ask what color i was... they ask what is your nationality. |
Lil_ze
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reanta and shyfox, thanks for responding. first shyfox, i usually wouldn't get into this but since you brought up the subject of god, the dominion of the earth, and superiority, i will respond briefly. if you have a bible you can read deuteronomy 7:6- all people are not equal. deuteronomy 14:2, isaiah 45:4, psalm 147:19-20,if you want more scriptures you can ask me, but according to the bible certain nations are superior and others inferior. not my opinion but the word of the lord. also, the lord did create all nations. but he has his chosen nation, that is above (superior) to all other nation. read deuteronomy 7:6 carefully, and you will see that.
now, renata, ive try to show that africa is only a land mass, african is not a race. yes, most of our people (i say most because if you read the book "BEFORE THE MAYFLOWER" you will see that not all of our people came from africa as slaves) came from the land called africa, but the does not make us africans. we were brought here on slave ships less than 500 years ago. there is about 4,000 years of recorded human history. the land mass africa is 3 times the size of the united states. just because we were taken out of that land mass, does not mean we originated there, or are the same as the other dark races that dwell there. this is why i tried to show that the term "african" is something that does not exist. there are different races that dwell on that land mass. we are a different race, just because we dwelt there for a certain period of history, does not mean we originated there. or are the same as the over 5 different dark races that dwell there. where were our people, and what were they doing for the other 3,500 years of history? also you mentioned some thing about knowing people from ghana, gambia, and nigeria looking like our people (black-americans, west indians, etc). the different races that live in africa look similar, but that does not mead they are the same race. some ethiopians look like nigerians. some north africans (libyans, morroccans, egyptians, have dark skin, the same texture hair as ethiopian. some of the bushmen who live in namibia have dark skin and the same texture hair as nigerian. yet, they are different races. THE CHINESE AND THE JAPANESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT RACES, YEY THEY LOOK ALIKE. JUST BECAUSE SOME AFRICANS LOOK LIKE OUR PEOPLE, DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE OF THE SAME RACE. THEY JUST LOOK SIMILAR. MY 10 YEAR OLD COUSIN KNOWS WHEN HE SEES AN AFRICAN. THE WHITE MAN KNOWS THE DIFFERANCE BETWEEN OUR PEOPLE AND THE AFRICANS. THE SAD THING IS MOST OF OUR PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. EVEN WHEN THE TRUTH IS PRESENTED TO THEM IN A CLEAR FASHION. MANY OF OUR PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THE TRUTH. IF OUR PEOPLE WANT TO CONTINUE IF THIS "AFRICAN" IDENTITY FOOLISHNESS, GO AHEAD. BUT REALITY AND LOGIC, DON'T SUPPORT AN AFRICAN IDENTITY BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUACH THING AS AN "AFRICAN! |
Renata
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I know that "African" is not a race, but I don't know where I'm from in Africa, so I use the generic "African". There really is a difference between them, and you can see it IN THEM. In many Americans, within the same family, some may look more like Kenyans, while some may look more like Nigerians, and others may not look like either. This isn't so with true Africans.
Also, no offense, but I really don't care what's in the bible, I'm not Christian.
So, you can go on and on "explaining" how different we are from Africans. I can respect that, but I will NEVER believe I'm "better" than they are, any more than I will believe a Jew (they are your God's chosen people), a white, or ANYONE is "better" than I am. |
Kola_boof
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Lil_ze,
THIS HERE
IS WHAT A BLACK AMERICAN LOOKS LIKE.
YOU LOOK LIKE ME.
YOU BLACK AMERICANS
LOOK....JUST LIKE ME
AND YOU SHALL ALWAYS BE JUDGED BY and FROM THE WOMB YOU CAME FROM...WHICH IS AFRICA.
It's a little thing called "human nature"--DUMB ASS.
Whatever Africa is...that is what you are.
And until you redeem your ancestors---your beauty is meaningless and inferior.
PLUS---you're a bastard. Which is why WHITE AMERICANS respect AFRICANS more than they respect you.
You would be MORE TRULY SPECIAL...if you stayed "black" and stood in the image of your ancestors and realized that your only paradise, as a people...remains in AFRICA.
You WILL ALWAYS BE AFRICAN and you will always be the child of SLAVES.
And BrownBeauty123, did you read this statement that I wrote:
And high yellows Redd Fox and Toni Morrison, by our African standard, would be considered "BLACK"---because of their hair and facial features. They LOOK like us. Ditto Malcolm X."
In other words, that would be in agreement with the following statement by you:
but I don't think that lightskin people are any less Black than the darkskin ones--for example I view people like Raven Symone, Tisha Campbell, Beyonce Knowles, Jada Pinkett as Black women.
Please really READ my posts, because they're very nuanced and people often jump to conclusions about what I'm saying---a lot of times we're actually saying the SAME THING.
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Renata
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I wish someone could post those pictures of those gorgeous East African boys here. They could put on some jeans and a t-shirt, and you wouldn't know if they were from Kenya, or Connecticut.
And, HI, KOLA. I've been busy working, so I haven't been here much. |
Kola_boof
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And Renata,
MANY Africans can see almost "by tribe" exactly which Africans that a Black American came from.
So Lil_ze is a total fool if she/he thinks that you are some ISOLATED creation that isn't African.
YOU ARE OVERWHELMINGLY MORE AFRICAN...than anything else, and as I've written many times before---even in the lightest skinned American "Negro", the tribal lineage is usually very PRESENT.
And I totally disagree that Black Americans are more beautiful than African people.
What you are, Lil_ze is MIXED-looking, which to many of us....is very ugly and symbolic of your/our bodies being COLONIZED.
WHITE AMERICANS, if you notice are fascinated with African fashion models....and they seem to respect/admire a TRUE AFRICAN far more than their own former slave---Black American.
You know why that is???
Since I'm your real mother and love you so much--I won't be cruel enough to tell you.
But you need to choose the BLACK in you and start to cherish and love it.
You need to stop daydreaming that AFRICANS are your enemies.
And whatever in you is BLACK....it comes from AFRICA. No place else.
That goes for Brazilians, Black Mexicans and anyone else who has BLACK blood.
ALL BLACK comes from AFRICA.
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Shyfox
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"reanta and shyfox, thanks for responding. first shyfox, i usually wouldn't get into this but since you brought up the subject of god, the dominion of the earth, and superiority, i will respond briefly. if you have a bible you can read deuteronomy 7:6- all people are not equal. deuteronomy 14:2, isaiah 45:4, psalm 147:19-20,if you want more scriptures you can ask me, but according to the bible certain nations are superior and others inferior. not my opinion but the word of the lord. also, the lord did create all nations. but he has his chosen nation, that is above (superior) to all other nation. read deuteronomy 7:6 carefully, and you will see that."
You could not be more wrong. The Lord entered into a covenant with Abraham. Abraham's descendants would be as numerous as the stars. Also, the Messiah would come out of the line of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. Abraham had faith in God and this was accounted unto him for rightousness. God did not chose Abraham because of anything peculiar to Abraham's physical self. It was his faith in God.
The descendants of Abraham have suffered oppression, exile, and slavery. You wouldn't think that superior people would suffer such things.
Also check out these scriptures: Romans 2:11; Acts 10:34,35; Ex. 6:9; Col 3:25; I Pet. 1:17. |
Shyfox
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Ex. 6:9 should be Ephesians 6:9. Sorry about that. |
Brownbeauty123
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Doberman--
Since the Ethiopians are possibly of mixed blood, are they prejudice against dark brown complected unmixed black folks? |
Kola_boof
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Tisha Campbell,
The "high yellow" girl from MARTIN is nothing but a Fulani-Hausa-Insara mixed with some American INDIAN.
Gladys Knight
is nothing but a Mandinka-Capon (Dahomey) mixed with a teeny bit white/Indian.
I'm assuming Lil_ze is one of those INSECURE, BITTER snot-colored Zebra look'n WHY-N-CHES that hates Africa because she almost coulda passed for CREE-HOLE.
LOOOOOOOLLLLLLL
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Kola_boof
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MOST Ethiopians in the nation of ETHIOPIA, the ones they never show you on t.v.
are not mixed.
ONLY when they want to show you STARVING Ethiopians....do they turn the camera on the real pure-blood ETHIOPIANS of the countryside and rural nation.
Ethiopia has terrible color caste systems and the ELITE are usually light brown/Cinnamon colored (or lighter) and they live in the cities and are perpetuated by the media as "the Ethiopians". They are NOT.
And notice how dark and nappy the Ethiopians who won the RELAY RACE in Italy were. They could almost pass for WEST AFRICANS.
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Renata
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Kola, I'm just curious.....
you've seen my picture. If I were to go to Africa, which tribe/country do you think people would think I have blood from?
I have a certain affection for Gambian people, but I know I don't look anything like them. |
Doberman23
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brownbeauty
i will tell you about ethiopia when i come back from there, until then i can only go by what my girlfiends father and some of her other relatives tell me since he was born and raised there and so where most of the rest of his family members from his generation. i'll even take pics too, to share and i wont even alter them
my girlfriend is not what i consider mixed, her mother is black and her father is black ... done deal. my father is biracial and my mother is black ...i'm black, done deal. i happen to be a tad darker than ice-t (rapper/actor) my older brother is the complection of mike jordan and my little brother is mixture between the both of us, same mother and father for each of us ... we all got treated the same and we all get a long well with one another and don't think any less of anyone else because of the complextion ... i think anyone who wastes there time on this issue with every waking breath of their life needs to seriously seek some help. black people have a laundry list issues that need to be dealt with, and colorism is at the bottom of that list. |
Doberman23
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kola
when editing your photos keep in mind that the body should be 8 heads to remain in perfect perportion, so your second photo the head is to small. always use a copy of the your image and use the graphic scale, also when you take two pictures you should use black and white mode or crop out the backgrounds to make the image more seemless.
just trying to help a sista out |
Kola_boof
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Renata, the photos that I have of you are not "close up" enough for me to really feel sure (and although you're not biracial, you do look very mixed)---
but I still see 4 things:
Denkyira (the strongest)-Dahomey, Hausa-the Cidric(lower lipped Hausas), Mandinka
....and very strangely, because they're a tiny tribe in KENYA (!)....the El Mollo tribe.
But I don't see how you could have a Kenya tribe with 3 West African...maybe because of the SLAVES being mated with all different types of other tribes.
I've seen a Black American man in New York with Mandingo, Ashanti and Ethiopian/Eritrean Afwerki all in ONE BODY. So it's possible.
The Serahuli are from Gambia, but I don't see that in you.
Then again...I don't have a REALLY GOOD photo of you. Both face and body.
HOW TO TELL
By isolating the shape of the head...the SKULL of an African being the best way to decipher which kind of "black" it is...
to understand--picture Djimon Hounsou's head, then picture Iman's. You begin to understand.
the forehead...the lips...cheekbones...under-eye fold or coloration, grooves under the eyes....a black man's dick and his knees....TELL THE MOST INFORMATION.
The "collar bone", "buttocks", "wrists" and "middle-girth" tell a lot of information.
"Paddle-shaped foot" is a HAUSA, especially if it's a Flat-footed male.
Bambara women often have "round, sausage-shaped" legs once they pass 25. The lower back on Bambara women goes 2 inches longer than in most other West African women, which makes a lower placed buttock, but still large, with a curvy back.
*I believe Kobe Bryant has a lot of Bambara in him, but his nose is European and he has an Ekoi mouth (the pink "shaping" inside brown tells you) and a Hausa jawbone.
"flat, wide nose with rings over the bridge" is MANDINGO (the ones who immigrated to Liberia in 1530), Mande Fu people or Gola or Bassa (it has to be more than 1 ring)
A penis that slightly widens in the middle but has a slender head and slender base is the Kumba-Mende stock.
You see this penis on Black American MALES of Georgia, the Carolinas and Virginia.
"a fatty, rubbery band of very crinkly wrap-flesh" around the penis just beneath the circumcised HEAD is an "Ijaw Hausa"-man.
VERY COMMON stocks if you look at your mens' dicks.
REDD FOXX who is supposedly so much "Indian"---look Straight Up PURE Zulu to my eyes.
OPRAH looks Zulu, too.
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Kola_boof
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Dicks that BEND to the side like umbrella handle is just pure, unadulturated AFRICAN mofo.
LMAO!!!!!!
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Lil_ze
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OUR PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE, WHERE THIS KOLA BOOF, IS COMING FROM. JUST ANOTHER JEALOUS UGLY AFRICAN. I DON'T RESPOND TO AFRICANS. I LAUGH AT THEM. OUR ENIMIES WILL SAY ANYTHING TO TRY TO TRICK OUR PEOPLE. LOOK AT GABRIELE UNION, THEN LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF THIS UGLY DOG. WE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU WANT TO BE LIKE, BUT CANNOT AND WILL NOT. UGLY, BITTER, ANGRY, JEALOUS, AND ABOVE ALL IGNORANT. THANK HEAVENS SOME OF OUR PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH. WE WILL NOT LET SOME STRANGER, A HATER OF OUR PEOPLE DECEIVE US. |
Mzuri
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Ms. Kola - With all due respect - every Black person in the U.S.A. does not look alike and they do not look like you. Not that you don't look good - just that different ppl look different.
And do any of you all ever get tired of debating this same tired shit over and over again. With all of the constant insults and name calling? Can we have a discussion here that is an exchange of thoughts without ppl getting called nigger bitches and shit? Because I don't appreciate any of you all calling me names, I haven't called anyone on this board any vulgar names because I didn't agree with their opinions.
When a new person with a different thought process posts here, can't you just welcome them and make them feel like they can be a part of this discussion board instead of driving ppl away by ganging up on them and treating them like dirt? Can ppl have a different opinion than yours and not get called out of their name? When someone doesn't agree with you or see things from your point of view - why do they have to be an asshole? Or an INSECURE, BITTER snot-colored Zebra look'n WHY-N-CHES that hates Africa? Do you know if the ppl posting here are in the hospital, in a bad relationship, on the verge of suicide, on their death bed? Show some compassion, common courtesy and human kindness!!! It won't kill you.
And why is it ppl's fault if their parents aren't pure Black/African? You act as though ppl have a choice of who their parents are and what their lineage is. You are very wrong in doing this and putting ppl down because of their heritage. The fact of the matter is, there aren't too many ppl who are pure anything and it's not their fault!!!
Tisha ain't Black enough for you, and Nia ain't Black enough for you, and Vonetta ain't Black enough for you, and Halle ain't Black enough, and Mary J. is a phoney - and who GIVES A CARE! Get a grip!!! Ppl aren't worthless garbage because their great-great-great-great-grandmother was raped by the plantation owner.
It's attitudes and mindsets like yours that brought about the genocide between the Hutus and the Tutsis. The shit is dangerous!!! |
Kola_boof
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Excuse me, but Lil_ze was the ONE who attacked me and quite viciously on first appearance.
SO FUCK THAT BITCH, Mzuri!
And she's just what the fuck I called her.
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1935
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And Lil_ze you can LICK MY AFRICAN ASSHOLE, you snot-faced yellow cross-eyed bitch!
I don't give a fuck what you LIKE or don't like.
PUT ME OUT, WHYYY-N-CH.
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Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 162
Registered: 04-2005
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Jackie is happily married to AFRICAN STOCK |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 345
Registered: 01-2006
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Okay, but you see - you take these ppl's remarks towards you as personal attacks - and they are not. In case you forgot, you are a bit of a celebrity around here. If nothing else, you are the resident drama queen and I mean that in a very nice way. Therefore ppl are going to address their discrepancies towards you. Not me or any of the other posters because we are not VIPs like you. And so when ppl don't agree with your position or views - you should NOT call them all those crazy names because ppl have feelings. And some ppl haven't been around discussion boards like we have and they may be more sensitive and take that stuff personally. And so you should not do it. And besides all of that, it is unbecoming. If someone disagrees with you, just state your case and drive on. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1936
Registered: 02-2005
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Excuse me, MZURI....I did not attack her because we have a disagreement in OPINIONS or VIEWS
---I have NEVER disallowed someone from having a disagreement or a different OPINION with me
BUT THIS PERSON WROTE:
AFRICAN ARE VERY JEALOUS OF OUR PEOPLE, AND KOLA BOOF IS FURTHER PROOF OF THIS. YOU JUST NEED TO READ HER POSTS TO SEE THIS. OUR PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT KOLA BOOF IS A STRANGER. SHE IS ATTEMPTING TO DIVIDE AND CONFUSE OUR PEOPLE. DON'T ALLOW THE CHILDREN (KOLA BOOF)OF THOSE WHO ENSLAVED US, DECEIVE US. KOLA WHY DON'T YOU SAVE YOU'RE THOUGHTS FOR YOU'RE OWN AFRICAN COUNTRYMEN. STOP TRYING TO DEFAME OUR PEOPLE, WHO YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART ARE MORE BEAUTIFUL, INTELLIGENT, SMARTER, AND SUPERIOR TO YOU AND YOU'RE AFRICAN COUNTRYMEN. THIS IS WHY MOST OF YOU'RE COMMENTS ARE GEARED TOWARD SPEAKING NEGATIVLY TOWARD OUR WOMEN (WHO ARE SO MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN YOU AFRICANS COULD EVER BE). AGAIN, LETS NOT LET OUR ENIMIES FOOL US!
I could give a shit about her "opinions"---it's her PUT DOWNS OF KOLA BOOF that I responded to.
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1937
Registered: 02-2005
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And SHE started it....NOT ME.
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Lil_ze
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Post Number: 7
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MZURI the reason this dog attacks people and is so angry. is because when the truth is presented it hurts. an amimal is emotional without the ability to think just react. so you can see the true colors of this enemy of our people, in the comments posted. man, jealousy is something else. a "celebrity" or a jealous, loud-mouth arab animal, with obvious issues of intense envy of our people. especially our women. why our people would even pay attention to such a clear foe of our peple is beyond me. but then again 450 years of enslavement and lies told about our people by the african, arab, and the so called white man. help me to see why we would actually entertain such filth. atleast some of our people know the truth, and can see through the lies of these africans. who really are just envious of us. this is why this african is on the forum day and night, doing everything she can to fill the heads of our people with lies. hey, africans you ain't fooling me. also, how about some photos of OUR women on this site. must we look at photo after photo of some of the ugliest forgieners/ strangers who did nothing for our people but enslave us? |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1938
Registered: 02-2005
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And let's Get ONE FACT out there-----
The Black Americans are the children of the people who ENSLAVED them...on both sides. NOT ME.
All the African men who sold Africans--were put on a boat right behind the people they sold.
I REPEAT:
All the African men who sold Africans--were put on a boat right behind the people they sold.
And all your WHITE BLOOD comes from your slave MASTER on the other side.
Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly and Larry Elders and all this "bling bling" niggas talk'n bout "WHAT-CHOO NEED?"......are the same folks that were selling your asses 500 years ago.
And since Lil_ze is so quick to embrace, love her WHITE BLOOD, then she may as well know that there's more AFRICA up in Black Americans than any goddamned body else.
And you can bitch and moan and talk all the shit you want.....but I KNOW WHO I AM....
I'm your real goddamned mother! You all came outta my black ass---I didn't come out of yours!
You can hate me, kill me, despise my UGLY Black ass all the fuck you want.
BUT I AINT GOING NO GODDAMNED WHERE!!
NO FUCKING WHERE!
MY EVIL BLACK ASS IS HERE TO STAYYYYYYYYYYY, MOTHERFUCKAS!
And that Bitch in New York Harbor and every other YELLOW Stringy-headed DOG-BLOODED MUTANT MULATTO Negress who don't like what I have to say to my own motherfuck'n kids can crawl up in GOD's ASSHOLE and ROT!
I didn't ask your permission to love you OR fight you. Either fucking one.
NOW YOU KNOW....where you got it from.
Yeah, you goddamned right we some RELATED motherfuckers.
I'm here to stay and I'm going to get ALLLL UP IN YOU Black American BIZNESS because I WILL NOT STAND BY ....and watch you be ERASED, wiped away in front of my eyes!!!
I just can't do it.
You don't like me---I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!
BUT BEFORE I DIE...I'm going to tell your asses the TRUTH.
Ain't no fucking LIKING to the shit.
The TRUTH is the fucking TRUTH.
And it's time you heard from your goddamned REAL MOTHER!!! You been listening to these WHITE CAUCASOID MOTHERFUCKERS 500 years-----then goddamnit listen to mY BLACK ASS!!!!!
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1940
Registered: 02-2005
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Lil_ze,
Your mother's a DOG.
In fact that white BITCH licks my asshole.
Sometimes I give her a "booty" to cover that Club-foot she got.
We know that's what ran your daddy back in the alley.
Don't we Miss PISS-ASS?
And get your finger out of your cunt and stop using the
funk-juice to spit-shine
your curly Spanish people's HURR.
Nasty ass BAMA WHYYY-N--CH
You can whine your fuck'n CREEEE-HOLE Republic
Preamble til the cows come home, but you
aint got behind you what I got behind me.
That's a GOD you'll never know--because
you ARE a slave.
Pale-faced highway mutt.
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Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 912
Registered: 08-2005
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The only reason black Americans hate Africans (of all people on earth, interestingly) is because they're reminded too much of Africans when they look in the mirror.....and they don't like what they see in their mirror.
Like I said before, Kola....black americans will look at native, asian, hispanic, and arab people, and call them BROTHER/SISTER. But look at someone more like them than ANYONE ELSE ON EARTH, and call them THE ENEMY. Because it's so normal to hate black people, that even WE do it. |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 293
Registered: 01-2006
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renata: "The only reason black Americans hate Africans (of all people on earth, interestingly) is because they're reminded too much of Africans when they look in the mirror.....and they don't like what they see in their mirror."
when you say only, then that means that the statement made is a fact. now seriously can you say that comment is a fact? if you do, then i've been giving you more credit in the past then i should have ... don't be a sheep, use your own head.
mzuri you should know by now kola doesn't have the ability to argue without shouting or crassness (except maybe once or twice) ... it is u that is crazy for thinking that she will all of sudden have that ability to listen to reason. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 346
Registered: 01-2006
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Dobey - I'm the crazy one? Well maybe but you're the first person to ever tell me that in my life. LOL! But I disagree with you because Kola is a reasonable person. She just needs to stop taking what ppl say on these boards as a personal affront, because unless someone knows you personally how can they say anything factual to insult you about. Take the discussions about skin color and ppl calling each other Creoles or whatever - unless someone has told you straight out, posted their pix or you've seen them in person - how can you know by reading their posts what shade of Black they are? It's impossible.
Anyway, I'm going back to bed now - it's a sleep til noon day for me. Have a nice day  |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4304
Registered: 01-2004
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I beg to differ, "mzuri". Most people do respond to kola on a personal level. They are not generalizing when they take her on. And she is not generalizing when she goes after them. Or is kola a reasonable person. She goes berserk on a regular basis. It takes very little to set her off because she is emotionally overwrought and obsessed with color. And I might add that you certainly didn't have any qualms about judging me without knowing me, oozing all of your BS about why I need roooooooooses. Face it, Ms. "mzuri". No matter how hard you try to disguise it, you are a kola toadie. Breathe deeply now, girlfriend. |
Zuriburi
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Username: Zuriburi
Post Number: 121
Registered: 11-2005
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Here you go Renata. These men are Samburu and Maasai from Kenya:
 
Sorry I saw your request so late. |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2006
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again, this kola boof, is obsessed with our people. the jealousy the beast has for our people is crystal clear. notice how often she speaks about africa and africans and how true and great they are. but all her time is spent speaking about, thinking about,and disscussing our people! she spends her time posting in a forum for sp-called "african-americans". its so clear the deep and raging envy this stranger has for our people. such a proud "african", but all kola boof's thoughts and actions revolve around our people. what we look like, what skin tone we have, trying to define who amongst our beatiful people is actually "black" or not. why is this proud so-called african living through our people. because in her heart, she knows we are a beautiful unique nation. this is why she does all she can to try to be amongst us, talk to us about our people, and trys to spout idea after idea about our people. this proud so-called african certainly spends alot of time thinking about and writing about "un-authenic" blacks as she puts it. she spends alot of time trying to tear down our women, who are so much superior to this animal in every way. kola boof's life revolves around our people. because she and her proud "african" co-horts know we are superior to them, and envy is the motivation behind the madness and hatred in all of her posts. envious of our people and at the same time kola boof has a burning desire to be amongst us, try to have opinions about our issues, and actually tries to define who we are as a people! sad thing is some of our people really take this stranger, non-member of our nation, seriously and can't see she is just an envious, jealous savage. very intelligent proud african she is. read the above post of hers' where she speaks of our people as being only slaves because thats all we know. read this when she says, her intelligent words, "lick my african, asshole". she is obviously a very sad, deranged, bitter, and envious person. hey, kola boof, how does it feel to spend every waking moment thinking about and writing about a people that you have nothing to do with. our people have dealt with you africans/ arabs enough when your ancestors enslaved us. why not spend your time thinking about and writing anout your AIDS ridden, starving, civil warring african countrymen. and stay away from our beautiful nation. we know who you are and you cannot fool us with you're lies. |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1941
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 04:14 pm: |
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LMAO!!!!!!!
You displaced Cracker-Mulatto slave
bitches are hilarious, CYNIQUE.
But two things you said are true:
(1) I AM obsessed with Black Americans.
(Just imagine going to a strange land
and finding out you've got children that
you knew nothing about. Who wouldn't be
obsessed?)
(2) I certainly do think that Black
Americans are Beautiful, very special
people.
---I've written that many times in all
my books.
And, of course, Black Americans are
"beautiful"--because they come from Africa
and because they're black, and because
they SURVIVED. They did not perish.
They look...SO AMAZINGLY like me...so
of course I think they're drop dead
gorgeous.
The rest of the crap you wrote is
bullshit, however.
I was adopted and raised by Black Americans,
which I'm assuming you must know. Otherwise,
you wouldn't be asking me why I think I'm
a Black American.
If your Mother and Father are Black Americans
--then DUH--you start to think you're one too.
And you'd be DULY shocked if you
could ever know what I think is beautiful.
It's NOT a CREEEE--HOLE like you.
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Afroamerican
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Username: Afroamerican
Post Number: 188
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 04:16 pm: |
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LOL. Very interesting conversation!
(and i'm NOT jumping on anyone's side here). I see where both Kola and Mzuri are trying to say!
Like Mzuri I find it hard to believe you can actually "pick out what tribes" Black Americans have blood from as Kola claims. Black Americans probably have at LEAST 20 TRIBES in their bloodlines.
I bet you my life you could put 30 Ghanians in the same room with 30 Nigerians or Gambians and unless they spoke (an you noticed their accent- or had on their different/distinct tribal close) even other WEST AFRICANS **COULD NOT*** TELL WHO WAS "GHANIAN" AND WHO WAS "NIGERIAN". ...........but of course some people would pretend like they could.
WEST AFRICANS DO NOT DIFFER IN APPEARENCE AS MUCH AS KOLA IS CLAIMING. West Africa is made up with up nothing but dark brown/ black skin people with the same basic "West African feautres".
These little trival things like "flat noses", "jawlines" and "Flat feet" you could find in different indiviuals in MANY DIFFERENT TRIBES all over Africa.
If someone is African, then of course they are going to find something- anything- African on a Black American because they WANT to find it.
Every Nigerian will claim every Black American looks "nigerian" or like some tribe IN Nigerian.
And every Ghanian thinks Black Americans look Ghanian............because first and foremost they WANT Black Americans to look Ghanian.
But once again, the truth is Nigerians don't look that different from Ghanians and without some kind of "sign" the two wouldn't be able to look at SIMPLE FEATURES TO different from each other, neverless a person like a Black American who would be mixed with maybe 100's of different "things.
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Lastly, the one thing I do agree with kola is that African blood is still the MAJORITY of blood that MOST black Americans have in their blood stream so why are people still going on and on about their one drop of Indian or White blood.
Have you ever heard of a White person going on and on about their AA blood like Blacks do White blood?
Do such people see the insult in this? |
Afroamerican
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Username: Afroamerican
Post Number: 189
Registered: 08-2005
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Opps, that was Lizi I think! |
Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1942
Registered: 02-2005
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AfroAmerican, you're ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
Ghanians and Nigerians don't look anything alike.
You must be blind.
It's the SENEGALESE and GAMBIANS who look
just alike.
BENIN people look almost identical to
other West Africans---except for the "cupid bow"
mouth.
And when you mentioned "flat feet"---you conveniently left out "paddle shaped".
Changing what I said to suit your
mantra.
A Cherokee Indian can tell you the
difference between a Cherokee and a
Sioux or a Blackfoot.
And Africans are no different,
although---at times---they would
definitely make mistakes.
And as for you having 20 tribes
in your blood.....NO, it's more
like 100 tribes in a Black American.
But I named what is SHOWING ITSELF.
And in Renata, there are 4 tribes
whose "looks" are distinct in her photo.
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Kola_boof
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Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1943
Registered: 02-2005
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Every Nigerian will claim every Black American looks "nigerian" or like some tribe IN Nigerian.
And every Ghanian thinks Black Americans look Ghanian............because first and foremost they WANT Black Americans to look Ghanian.
Of course they want you to look like them!
You're their children!
Why wouldn't they want you to look
like them???
If they were ETHIOPIANS---then you'd
be rushing and gushing to look like
them!!!
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Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 164
Registered: 04-2005
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Afroamerican: "And every Ghanian thinks Black Americans look Ghanian............because first and foremost they WANT Black Americans to look Ghanian. "
Now why did you use the word "every". This statement is wrong like much of what u stated. I'm married to a Ghanian. Not one of his people here or when I went to Ghana said I have Ghanian ancestry. In fact it was quite the opposite. But I'll keep that part to myself. LOL ! Kola is right about identifying Africans in as much as what region and sometimes country they come from. |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 01-2006
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oh, i see so kola boof is a bastard, abandoned african, who has identity issues. i now see why you are so obsessed with our great people. even you have nothing to do with us. you were just abandoned by you're african/ arabs real parents. its clear why you want to be with us and interact with us. but you know in your heart that you ain't us. and despite all your jealous rantings, you understand that you can never be as we are. we are what you long to be but are not. keeping telling yourself, "yes, im beautiful, yes, im a true african, yes, im pure, and the american blacks are not. but the truth be told you are an abandoned afrcan, longing to be a part of a people you are not a part of. i feel very sorry for you. why don't you spent some time trying to find you're REAL AFRICAN/ ARAB PARENTS. then maybe you can stop obsessing over our beautiful people. and start addressing some of the issues of your own people. not the people who you want to be a part of but never can. |
Jackie
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Username: Jackie
Post Number: 165
Registered: 04-2005
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LOL ! Lil_ze, Pro-Kola or Anti Kola, you should do your research before posting. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 347
Registered: 01-2006
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Can't you Black ppl ever agree on anything?!!! Damn!!!
Cynique/Cynnique/Pandora - Did you read the part about me going back to sleep? Next time - wait until my a$$ is woke up good. And I'm not Kola's toadie - whatever a toadie is. Don't you have anything else to do than run behind me and try to smell my a$$ all the time. Damn!!!
Jackie - I once dated a Ghanaian man and I just love him to death. He was always making me eat mango and papaya for breakfast, when he knew I was trying to have me some potatoes and bacon. He was almost perfect except he was quite a bit older than me, and he was a bit of a player so I had to leave him alone, but he was really wonderful and I enjoyed every moment with him. If your Ghana man is anything like mine, then you are very fortunate. I wouldn't recommend going to Ghana though - them niggas is still kind of uncivilized - LOL!!!
Funeral for Ghana's Beheaded King
Lil Ze - I think your posts are thought provoking and I have come to your defense to try to keep Kola from calling you all them crazy names. But why don't you play nice, show some respect and save some of your insults for all the real life idiots that I'm sure you know. In case you didn't know, Ms. Kola has recently landed a major big money contract for a daytime soap opera writing gig and she don't need to be coming here slumming with us ordinary ppl. Without the drama that Kola brings this board is one tired a$$ place so please temper your responses.
AA - Those tribes can pick out their own. I don't know how they do it but they can. They look at things that the rest of us would never consider like each other's ear lobes or something. It's weird. |
Lil_ze
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 01-2006
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mzuri, thank you for the kind words. i think you are right i probably brought myself down to other peoples level by hurling insults. but sometimes in the defense of our people, i get in to the "fight fire with fire" frame of mind. it doesn't surprise me kola boof got a "big-money" deal to write. to me its simple, people out side of our nation, get in amongst us, use us so to speak. then gain wealth from it. baraka obama is another example. good maybe kola boof will stay away from this board for good and leave our people in peace. but, again thank you for the support and saying my posts are thought provoking. im just trying to get our people to think about some things from a different angle. |
Enchanted
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Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 116
Registered: 11-2005
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Leave Obama Barack out of this. If was to run for president I would vote for him.
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Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4307
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 07:50 pm: |
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I don't have to follow you around mzuri/kola-toady. You're right in my space trying to force roses on me with all of your sanctimonious prattle. And for those of us who thought kola's new gig and new "committed boyfriend" would put her in touch with reality, forgeddaboudit. She's as spacey as ever, still subjecting us to the same ol pictures and same ol empty phrases and played out snaps. BTW, she and her new lay really have to be an odd couple. He's "committed" and she needs to be committed. LMAO. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 348
Registered: 01-2006
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I'm laughing my a$$ off too Cynique/Cynnique/Pandora because you are so totally funny, I mean you are just absolutely hilarious, so comical and such a friggen riot that it's beyond words. And because I care for you so very very very much, here's a temporary fix for your rose jones (it's okay - I got your little cry for help - you know you miss the roses GirlFriend) -
Now keep on thinking about how Mzuri smells just like freshly cut ROOOO-SES and have a wonderful night! |
Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 258
Registered: 12-2005
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Cynique, St. Elizabeth's would be just fine. ;o) |
Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 913
Registered: 08-2005
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I can't speak for "most" West Africans, but I do know that (two groups in particular that are prominent in Atlanta) people from Gambia and Ivory Coast are distinguishable. Ghanians (that I've met) look very much like US....Cameroonians (that I've met) look so much like Island people that I can't tell them apart. But people from Gambia and Ivory Coast are very distinguishable from each other and from everyone else. People from the Ivory Coast would make great models in this society, their build, skin, weight, etc. is so spectacular.
Also, Africans here in Atlanta have little to be jealous of. The men tend to be better educated than American men, the women tend to be more likely to own their own businesses than American women (and they usually don't have 2 or 3 kids to care for while their attaining their education and career). The woman who owns the therapy center where my son attends once a week is a Nigerian woman, and have Americans working for her. I work in a call center, and they are hiring more Africans because they're bi-lingual, and we do business with Canada so we need French speakers. I can't speak for what's going on in the rest of the country, but here in Atlanta, they have more to be proud of in themselves, than they have to be jealous of in others. |
Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 914
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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Kola, I'll probably send you a new pic this weekend. Email me a reminder before then. What I REALLY want to know is where I got my LIPS from! |
Cynique
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Username: Cynique
Post Number: 4308
Registered: 01-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:31 pm: |
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Now it all comes out, muzuri/kola-toady. The only person you worship and adore more than your mentor kola, is Cynique who you live only to please and pay homage to with flowers. Get a life.
Schakspir: I hear ya. |
Serenasailor
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Username: Serenasailor
Post Number: 396
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There is an Ethiopian girl in my class. She looks like a West African woman to me. No one can accuse her of looking anything like the mixed race Ethipians that you so commonly see.
Also, I have noticed that Ethipians are some of the nastiest ppl. They are so fucking rude to black americans. The mixed race ones that is I wonder why that is.
Also, what are the mixed race Ethiopians mixed with? |
Renata
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Also, African braiders charge about 50 to 75 dollars more than American braiders...and the women here still PREFER African braiders. |
Tonya
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I'm late, I haven't read the whole thread, but somebody said that AAs are more beautiful than Africans and my question is: are you kidding me? A few years ago I had this conversation with a friend of mine and I said straight up that AAs look like mutts compared to Africans. Have you all noticed that our skin is not as smooth as theirs are? I have seen footage of the poorest Africans; no shoes, little clothing, malnourished, the works... and they still looked good. You could NOT get an AA or any kind of American - with our fat, pimply-face asses - to look ANYWHERE NEAR that good under those conditions. Not unless it's Naomi Campbell, the famous female who is about to marry Brad Pitt, or that black male model who got his start doing that Pepsi commercial. But the average American citizen (Black, white, Asian, whatever) would NOT be able to hold up. If these poor, war battered Africans can look that good under those conditions, imagine how they'd look if they had our clothes and money. Man, those African Sistahs would take ALL of our men (black and white) if they had access to our resources! (BTW, anybody know how they keep their skin looking so good? Kola? Anybody?)
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Renata
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Good genes. I've never met one with skin problems. They may exist somewhere, but I've never heard of/seen/met one.
I forgot to add to my above post, my son's neurologist was African. Most black doctors in Atlanta (especially specialists) seem to be either African male or African-American female. Go to ANY hospital in Atlanta, and I can almost GUARANTEE you that you'll encounter more African male doctors than African-American male doctors. |
Renata
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I just googled Wentworth Miller (I had no idea who he was).
LOL
Cute, but OBVIOUSLY NOT BLACK. I can't even believe that his name came up in this forum in such a debate.
LOL
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Afroamerican
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Post Number: 190
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I'm sorry, but I'm still declined to disagree with the African "looks" argurement. I don't care where you go be it Gambia, Nigeria, Niger, Sengal, Uganda OR South Africa all the pictures will look UNIFORMILY LIKE THIS:
http://cd.textfiles.com/smscreenw/GENERAL/AFRICANS.GIF
http://www.zia.ms.it/~brunella/senegal/02-08%20Bimba%20senegalese%20bellissima.j pg
http://www.senegalview.com/ATTIRE11.JPG
http://www.state.gov/cms_images/ivorians.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41386000/jpg/_41386424_ivorycoast2006_203. jpg
http://www.wbtc.com/images/news/crowd.shows.bibles.tight.jpg
http://www.powerstock.dorset.sch.uk/ghana/CROWD%20GREETING.JPG
http://www.flourish.org/ghana/crowd1.jpeg
http://peter.fremlin.de/gollertrust/images/crowd.JPG
http://www.unicef.ie/images/niger_crisis_crowd.jpg
All West Africans are from the SAME *****BANTU stock***! They are virtually the SAME people living in different countries, similar to how Black Americans are the SAME people living in borders called STATES.
Renata and Kola are talking as if Black Africa is BRAZIL or some other Multiracial society where everyone is mixed with tons of stuff and everyone looks "unique"........ And as if these tribes features varied enough that you can pick one part from one another as if you could do different "races"!
Sorry but that's pure Bullshit!
Africans know each other apart because of cloths & accents. And many times Africans within a country know tribes apart simply because family names are associated WITH being in a certain tribe.
Again:
http://www.wbtc.com/images/news/crowd.shows.bibles.tight.jpg |
Afroamerican
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I have also noticed that Africans tend to have better skin- at least in photos and all the Save the Children programs we see on television. But let's also remember that MOST children's skin is flawless, because they have not gone through puberty and other hormone changes. Most of these African children you see on tv with all this good skin are around 7 or 8! |
Brownbeauty123
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I have a friend who is Ghanian, who used to have very smooth skin in high school, after several years she has developed minimal acne most likely due to the American diet. Her sister's skin has maintained its clarity though.
Renata, I had link to Wentworth's picture in one of my posts. And yes, he IS a white man with African blood. I see minimal traces of african ancestry in his appearance but that is only after it has been brought to my attention that I can recognize that.
Wentworth still discusses his experiences with racism as if he is actually a Black man ::roll eyes::
I'm curious what is Beyonce's mother ancestry? I hear she is Creole--I've seen pictures of her Grandmother and she doesn't look White. Does that mean that there were several generations of Creoles that married and had children with each other? |
Brownbeauty123
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Afroamerican--
Possibly to US Black Americans they ALL look alike because black Africa is a foreign country to us. And besides most Black Americans don't even have an interest in African tribes like they should. But I'm willing to bet, that there are probably 'subtle' or 'unique' features that differs from one tribe to the next. I've read so before.
Just like to some Blacks & Whites all Asians look the damn same. You see so many Americans calling Koreans, Japanese, & Vietnamese people all Chinese when in fact they DO look different and have distinct features within their own racial group. We just see slanted eyes and say "Chinese" regardless of other features that might make them Vietnamese. |
Afroamerican
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Brownbeauty,
are you trying to tell me that Ghanians have SOMETHING (some kind of feature) that can be found in NO other Africans anywhere and is unique only to Ghanians??
Come on now!
There might be a feature that other Africans associate with Ghana because plenty of Ghanians have that "feature" (whatever the hell that could be), but I'm certain that there are tons of other Africans (millions in fact) in other countries and other tribes with that same EXACT feature!
This is like saying New York Blacks look different from Florida Black Americans. Come on now!
Asians say this crap too because first and foremost there are RACIAL HIERACHIES in the Asian community! A Japanese man considers himself SUPERIOR to a Chinese man (hence he does not consider himself anything like a Chinese, neverless would he want to LOOK like one). A chinese man sees himself superior to a Korean, etc etc.
All Asians will tell you they "look different" even if they came from bordering countries, because in general they DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER!
However this doesn't mean that they (Japanese, Koreans, and the Chinese) truly DON'T look alike!
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Also, I don't know what the hell Beyonce's mothers family is suppose to be. They could be Creole might not be. I take this Creole shit with a grain of salt. Every Nigga from lousiana that you talk to, especially if he's a little red in complexion will claim to be "something"- creole included!
It seems something is inheritely wrong with just being African-American and looking just "African-American". We all have to LOOK or BE like someone else! Even though the vast majority of our families have been uniformily AA for generations!
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Kola_boof
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AfroAmerican,
"Hausa" people live in several countries, including GHANA. The Hausa is called a "race" just like my mother's Oromo tribe is so big it's called a race---they live in many nations. Hausa do not look like Zulu or Bantu.
Therefore, anyone from those countries---even if they live in Brazil or CHICAGO----are immediately identified as "Hausa".
Ditto the other tribal looks I mentioned up above.
The "Ibo" tribe in Nigeria is the only tribe in Nigeria that could pass for GHANIANS. The other tribes in Nigeria look vastly different than the tribes in Ghana.
There are almost 100 different Tribes in GHANA...and they do not all look alike. They have very noticable differences to the trained eye.
It's kind of like how you can tell that Vin Diesel and Lena Horne have a little black in them---no matter how white they look. It's that same way with Africans identifying by lineage.
But of course, you're not an African child who is required to learn from birth--what these differences are. And, of course, you come from a "stock" that has no standards whatsoever. So you don't have a "lineage"----and would not understand that Vietnamese and Koreans and Japanese and Chinese are comprised of 100's of SUB-tribes that all have different "shades" and facial features.
Sista, you really don't know what you're talking about.
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Afroamerican
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Well everyone is entitled to their opinion!
I'm begining to understand that even Africans don't truly have HIGH standards either!
Everything you've said Kola is exactly what Black Americans say when they are claiming Mariah Carey IS Black.
The only REAL difference is that they try to make everything "Black", while you try to make everything "African".
The only difference is a choice of words. |
Brownbeauty123
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Afroamerican,
To say that a group of people all 'look alike' is a rather bigot thing to say. You know how the White Supremacists say, "all those niggers look alike".
Many Koreans (or any group of Asians) find it offensive to refer or even hint at the idea that there is absolutely no distinct physical difference between their racial group and the Chinese, or Japanese. It's just that *we* cannot see it, which could partly be due to the fact that as a Black American we're not that familiar with those racial groups. But there is a difference...and I'll admit I don't *know* the difference but I acknowledge that there probably is, if I took the time to differentiate myself.
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Kola_boof
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Scandinavians (blonde, ski-slope nose) don't look like Polish (round doorbell nose, brown hair). But they're all WHITE.
Germans DO NOT look like the French.
Within Germans are "tribes"--Bolsheviks, Saxons.
DANES of Denmark do not look like the Finnish of Finland.
They're all white, but they don't look the same.
ALL of the tribes we've discussed are "BLACK".
Mariah Carey is NOT black. She has one or two drops of our blood, which isn't even enough to be "Half-Caste".
We're talking about the specific traits that delineate Black people BY TRIBE. There are 9 Races of BLACK; the two major ones being "Nilotic" and "Negroid".
And there's a difference between "lineage" and trying to claim someone for your race who has only micro-scraps of your blood.
Otherwise---Black American celebrities would be partying in New York with ALEK WEK---which they never do. But then, she's not white.
Yoruba are tall but robust and Akan are shorter and tuber-shaped and move faster.
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Kola_boof
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ALLLLL Black Americans....
are VISIBLY, at this moment, AFRICAN.
I can look at Cynique's real picture and
see CLEARLY that she has Denkyira people
in her blood. It SCREAMS from the center
of her face.
When an African walks down the street in
the United States---especially a West African--they immediately see 3 and 4 different
tribes in the face/body of each Black American
passing them by.
It is very scarry for an African. Because
you wonder what Scientific Experiment created
this "amalgamation".
In slavery days, to stop you from keeping an
African language---they divided the tribes and
put a Fulani with a Mandingo, a Hausa with a Wolof, a Ga with a Serahuli.
They forced all the African tribes to MIX. 400 years. And still....
Black Americans LOOK LIKE US--the Africans.
They look just like us.
White and Indian blood gets in the way, sure,
but EVEN THE YELLOW ONES---are flowing with
African blood.
AND IT SHOWS.
And we can see who you are--because we know better than you what is black and what is
African.
You were not allowed to know ANYTHING. Not even your name.
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Renata
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And again, Gambians and those from Ivory Coast (coasters?), don't look alike AT ALL. Their hair is different, their skin, their bone structure, etc.
By American beauty standards, those from IC could EASILY become models. Gambians can't (by American standards). |
Renata
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I can tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese/Koreans, but I can't tell the difference between Chinese and Koreans. |
Schakspir
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Actually, "Bolsheviks" are not a German ethnicity, they are Russian revolutionary communists who brought down the Czar in 1917 and took over Russia. |
Kola_boof
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RUSSIA
(dank you)
That's even BETTER, because the Russians have "brown colored" tribes in their land mass; the looks of these tribes differing one to the next--and Siberians don't look like Leeks and Leeks don't look like Bolsheviks, but they're all White Russians.
And, of course...one of the most common names in RUSSIA is "KOLA". They even had a Queen Kola.
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Brownbeauty123
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Renata,
Could you post a picture of the Ivory Coast people?
Was Mariah Carey's father biracial? She is quite "white looking" to be a mulatto to me.
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Afroamerican
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First of all Kola,
Even Mariah Carey has more than a FEW drops of Black blood! Let's be realistic. The average White American has a "few" drops of Black blood!!!!! People like Mariah Carey who where brought up in an INTERRACIAL FAMILIES have more than a few damn "drops". If she were that White, her parent's relationship would NOT have been considered INTERRACIAL. That's common sense! She has TONS of Black blood, just like on the flip side Lenny Kratviz and lisa Bonet' have PLENTY of White blood no matter how Black they look to Americans.
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PEOPLE SEE WHAT THEY ***WANT*** TO SEE- that's my whole piont! And in all honestly kola, I consider you one of the WORST judges of racial characters.
I noticed in one of the other threads, kola you spoke of resentment of the Biracial actress Sophie Okonedo getting the lead role in Hotel Rowanda and how it should have went to a real Black Rowandian woman how actually LOOKED Black.
Back then and to this very day I am still quite startled to how you could totally deny this woman's PURE African features.
http://i.ivillage.com/BS/celebrity_style/movie_star_looks/BS_Okonedu0405_157.jpg
A person that can't see MOTHER AFRICA in this woman certainly won't be able to tell what tribe Morris Chestnut came from............
And the odd thing is that HALF of the Black Americans you see everyday look no more African than this woman! That is why I know, despite how many damn essays and speeches are wrote about what africans supposely see, deep down inside everyone knows: if Sophie O is a "Half breed" then so is Tisha Campbell.
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Afroamerican
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Here are some Ivorians straight off Google:
http://www.state.gov/cms_images/ivorians.jpg
http://mylondondiary.co.uk/2004/11/20/041120_n068.jpg
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/africa/09/28/ivory.coast.01/story.ivory.coast .pro.ap.jpg
They don't have many pictures! |
Brownbeauty123
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Sophie suuure is beyooootiful. She's very *pretty*--and does not look biracial at all. She looks like a much lighter complected Gabrielle Union!
I'd rather see girls who look like her more often than Alicia Keys or Halle Berry. I think she's way prettier than Alicia Keys in particular. Gorgeous lips! |
Brownbeauty123
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http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2877/Events/2877/SophieOkon_Cohen_4536099_40 0.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Okonedo,%20Sophie
Who is this ugly man with her? I hope that's not her husband. YIKES! What a way for a woman to waste good looks on such a hideous man.
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2859/Events/2859/SophieOkon_Mazur_4329711_40 0.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Okonedo,%20Sophie
Right here she is a splitting image of Angela Basset. Those two could almost be identical twin sisters!
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Brownbeauty123
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Well, Mariah Carey lists her heritage as being White, Black, and Venezuelan.
Her father is Black/Venezuelan so I'm assuming he was biracial--possibly mixed with some white blood considering Venezuelan is a nationality and not a race.
I know that biracial people are rather unpredictable in how they will appear genetically--but she looks far too *white* to be half black/ half white--possibly a quarter Black is what I'm *assuming* and believe. Even when she had curly hair and appeared more *ethnic* she still looked like a White woman with maybe some hispanic blood. |
Kola_boof
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"Hotel Rwanda" was boycotted by African women and they were right to do so. Why can't a REAL black African woman be cast to play herself?
Sophie Okenedo doesn't look a damned thing like a Rwandan woman. And neither does ANGELA BASSETT.
Which is why the women of Rwanda protested and rightfully so.
Their "biracial" women in Rwanda are dark as I am or darker.
TO YOUR "American" eyes Sophie Okenedo looks one way--but she is clearly not a BLACK woman by African standards in Rwanda.
And that's still a fact...otherwise, there would have been no OUTCRY by Rwandan women.
The film "Somewhere in April" showed what Rwandan women, both black and biracial really look like.
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Kola_boof
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Where IN THE HELL does this woman
look anything like a Rwandan--either
black OR biracial????
NOWHERE.
I stand by the African women
protesters 100% and that's why
the film flopped---AFRICANS didn't
support it, because of the INSULT.
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Kola_boof
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Let't take a LOOK
at some BI-RACIAL
Rwandan Women First:
Now let's LOOK
at some ALL-BLACK Rwandan
Women
Now Where in the fuck
does SOPHIE OKONEDA look
like a Rwandan woman???
Sophie's "Father" is
a WHITE BRITISH man, I hear.
Her mother was extremely dark.
Fine. Create a movie where she
fits the part.
BUT I SUPPORT THOSE WOMEN
and their BOYCOTT 100% and
I'm SICK of this colorist
Western Bullshit!
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well, obviously the producers and directors thought she had the capacity to play a rwandan. is don cheadle a rwandan? no, but he played the part thats why its called acting. the movie that recently came out about geisha girls in japan had a chinese woman (ziyi zhang) playing a japanese geisha. maybe sophie okenedo was the best woman for the part? or maybe the real rwandans are so dam ugly the nobody would be able to look at the screen? the movie was good, i think sophie is an attractive woman! |
Brownbeauty123
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Kola--
I don't know what a Rwandan looks like. Could you post a pic so I can see the difference?
She looks like a Black woman to me--when I look at her I don't look for what country or native tribe she is from--I just see Black. Maybe that's my American ignorance. I'm sorry.
But she looks so much like Gabrielle Union(and in other pics a young Angela Bassett)-the only difference is that her skin color is several shades lighter--everything else looks African. She's so pretty.
Does Gabrielle Union look mixed to you or something? I think she's a gorgeous Black woman as well.
But I understand possibly why the Rwandans had such an outcry--while she does look Black (and not White at all; at least to me and possibly other Black Americans) it's the fact that they just had to pick somebody with *white* blood in their heritage. Like they couldn't get someone who looks like her and was a product of two black parents (something that could have been easily done).
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Brownbeauty123
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The first two Rwanda women cannot be biracial Kola?? Are you serious? Mixed with what? I"ve never seen a mulatto that African looking |
Kola_boof
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DON CHEADLE "does" look like a
Rwandan.
They would never think of casting
a high yellow man in that role that
Don played---but they disrespect
the women, because a woman can't
be "black".
Why couldn't they have cast a
BLACK AMERICAN ACTRESS who really
needs work and looks Rwandan
---like Yolanda Ross
THIS BLack AMerican WOMAN
is beautiful to my African eyes
---and she could damned sure play
a Rwandan.
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Kola_boof
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Brownbeauty,
What do you think I am????
What do you think the Black Arabs in Sudan are???
AND YES---the Bi-racial Rwandans are CHOCOLATE
skinned as opposed to Blue Black and Charcoal.
White doesn't turn CHARCOAL, Blue-Black into "yellow". It turns it chocolate.
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Mzuri
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Sorry Ms. Kola. If American Black ppl didn't support Hotel Rwanda it wasn't because they were boycotting about the actors not looking "authentic." It's because they didn't give a care. Unfortunately nobody here really cares about human rights violations, genocide and other atrocities committed by Blacks against Blacks over in Africa. What else is new? |
Kola_boof
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Post Number: 1961
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Brownbeauty, these
Sudanese women resemble
my birth mother, only
they're LIGHTER than my
birth mother
Now look at me. Half Arab.
I don't
look BI-Racial
to your eyes.
Now look at SOPHIE,
who is Half White AFRICAN
THIS...is a
Bi-racial Rwandan
woman in the next photo
Do you understand
now....HOW BLACK...the
people of Africa are??
And why it's so impossible
for them to see certain
people---Mariah Carey---as
a BLACK Person???
Some of them don't even
consider ME black, and I
look ALL BLACK to Americans.
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Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1963
Registered: 02-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 09:50 pm: |
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Sorry Ms. Kola. If American Black ppl didn't support Hotel Rwanda it wasn't because they were boycotting about the actors
Ms. Mzuri,
WHo in the fuck said anything about
what Black Americans supported??
CAN YOU READ?
We're talking about the BOYCOTT that
African women staged---and my support
of those women.
I never asked what the fuck you THOUGHT,
Felt, Remarked and I damned sure didn't
ask your permission to stand up for those
African women----they were 100% RIGHT.
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Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1964
Registered: 02-2005
Rating:
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IF this African sex goddess
right here---were to
be cast in the life story
of HALLE BERRY
...would any of you support
it???
LOOK CLOSELY---she resembles
HALLE BERRY to me!!!
Hell fucking NO, you wouldn't!
So stop being such insensitive selfish
little WHITE-ACTING snots!
There's NO WAY you would support this
AFRICAN SEX GODDESS in the role of Halle
Berry.
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Lil_ze
Newbie Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 18
Registered: 01-2006
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who the hell cares how a bunch of ugly, aids ridden, civil war fighting, starving africans view our great people. those dark nations that dwell in africa have no business talking about who they see as "black". because black is not a nationality. mzuri, you are correct. none of our people care about a bunch of african savages, who have nothing better to do but slaughter each other wholesale. notice all these proud african spend there time concentrating on our people. the people who they long to be like. why don't all the proud africans in this forum, go to a forum for "africans". our people want nothing to do with you. all these proud african should focus on why their proud countrymen are the biggest carriers of aids on earth? why these "great africans" are in a constant state of civil war? why can't these africans find a solution to why they are always starving? these africans are eating dust sandwiches. a disease ridden race of blood drinking, face scarring, primative nothings is what they are. notice the so-called proud african, who has many posts on this board. is not in africa, but here trying to be a part of our people, who played a great role in the building of this country. if africa and you africans are so beautiful and great. why are you here focusing on, and trying to be a part of a people who you know, in your disease ridden hearts, are superior to you. |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 357
Registered: 01-2006
Rating:
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Well, Ms. Kola - to be honest - YES - I CAN READ!!! But it's difficult to keep up with your incessant rants. Why are you questioning my intelligence??? I know you don't think I'm stupid!!! The movie flopped here and there because NOBODY gives a shit about BLACK ppl! Not because of the origin of the actors or the shade of their skin or the shape of their noses! And not because you supported some boycott! As if the poverty struck starving a$$ ppl of Africa could effect the economic success of a movie. Get for real!
And YES you care about what everybody thinks about you or else you wouldn't keep posting and arguing and trying to have the last word over every single topic that you post about.
NEWSFLASH: It's too late for the Black race to revert to being "pure" and "authentic." So why don't you take your BIG BLACK NO TITTY HAVIN AFRICAN A$$ on somewhere. Perhaps you should focus your attention on producing and directing your STUPID FUCKING movie about your "authentic" Black volcano woman - or whatever that concept is!!!
And next time you're lounging around eating bon-bons read a FUCKING book on how to be charming or something because your a$$ needs help! Rude a$$ed African blankity-blank!!! You better be glad I'm in Texas cause I'd stick my size 6 foot right up your size 24W a$$!!!
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Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 920
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:52 pm: |
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speak for yourself, bitch.
I'm proud to have African people here and proud to call them my brothers and sisters. You dumb niggers in THIS country would be starving your damn selves....if your MASTER didn't give you food stamps because the men HERE don't know how to take care of their own children. So don't act like you're so much better than the rest of US, native Africans and non-native long way from home Africans.
Take that dumb shit over to Chinatown and Little Havana.
We thought we got rid of the klan in our communities when the white skinned white supremacists faded out, but it seems they've only been replaced by black skinned white supremacists. "I have seen the enemy, and it IS US."
And so help me, if it's not people like you who convinced me not to worship a RACIST god.
I know that other people are going to find this controversial, but Christianity is one of the worst forms of white supremacy in the world. Notice they tell you to worship their white god....but do it somewhere else, they're not letting you sit your black ass next to them every Sunday. Notice they've invaded China, Africa, Native America (north and south), Australia, and New Zealand and ONLY the white man's way is the RIGHT way. And this is the exact reason it was all done....they no longer have to tell ANY of us we're inferior, we tell ourselves.
Now, this bitch comes on here quoting her "god's word from the bible" on how we're inferior to EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH. I wouldn't have a god that had such a low opinion of his own creation. JMO
I'm out, cuz I'm fucking FUMING. |
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 921
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:55 pm: |
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My post was to Lil_ze....but I don't agree with your post either, Mzuri, but for different reasons. |
Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 19
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:45 pm: |
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hey renata, i have no master. i get no food stamps. i have no responsibility to take care of any children because i don't have any. im sure you are proud to call the african your brothers or sisters, because you have been taught and believe lies. why don't you ask our people who went to liberia to live, if they would call the african their brothers or sisters? the africans have been killing and raping our people since we got there. the africans have made a sport out of raping our little girls there. the africans chop the heads off our people and leave them in the streets. the last one of our people who was president of liberia was shot in the head on a beach by a jealous, evil, insane african. the truth about our people was taught to me and my family by our great-grandfather, who learned from a man who was a slave. i went to marroon country in jamaica, and spoke with a man who was 101 years old. he told me about the slave trade, and about how the africans enslaved and sold our people. thank heavens the truth has been preserved, and some of our people know the truth. there are many african here, trying to fill our peoples heads with lies. reading some of our peoples comments on this board, it seems the africans are doing a good job.
rachel true i love you! |
Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 925
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:01 am: |
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If you think that only happens in Africa, just walk through South Central LA and do nothing more than wear the wrong shirt color. You will be pleasantly surprised.
(or maybe it will just be pleasant for the rest of us.) |
Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:43 am: |
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gee, our little girls are raped in south central for wearing the wrong color shirt? interesting. you don't even get the point of the post. continue to follow and praise, the ugliest, most disease ridden, vile, savages on the planet. your heroes-the africans. |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 80
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:24 am: |
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Lil_ze,
is NOT a black person. You cannot be--you must be some nonblack person who is posing as a Black and/or person of color.
Not to say that there aren't any self hating Blacks out there--cause there is a whole lot of them in this world--but his posts reeks of a White Nationalist supremacy mentality.
At every chance you get, you are basically ripping Africa apart--as if starvation, raping, stealing, and killing is what that continent is ALL about when in fact it is NOT. Not to say those things do not take place, but we all know the White media likes to take a portion of the worst things that goes on in Africa and air it over here in the United States. It's a scheme that you are helping to promote--
which is why I do not think that you are a Black person. You can't be.
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Zuriburi
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Zuriburi
Post Number: 122
Registered: 11-2005
Rating:
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Yes BB123 he/she has to be a White Nationalist. With this level of self hated if he were black he probably would have commited suicide by now.
He/she is definitely white and is not even clever enough to disguise it.
But, at least he is helping to keep the thread going. See, even the damned have thier place
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Renata
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Renata
Post Number: 927
Registered: 08-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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In LA, you won't be raped, just shot and left on the street. As MANY Americans can tell you, you don't have to live outside of this country to be raped or murdered. |
Tonya
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2239
Registered: 07-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 01:37 pm: |
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AFROAMERICAN, the people in the footages that I see are very often of all ages. And the young and child bearing people All seem to have COMPLETELY flawless skin--they'd put us child bearing AAs to shame, the god honest truth. Since you guys think that white is the equivalent of beauty, you don't understand where I'm coming from. I know real beauty when I see it--and nine times out of ten, the truly exquisite beauties DO NOT come in light, white, or modified skin. To non or less conquered eyes, that's understood.
BTW..
haven't you all wondered why most of our black supermodels either come or look like they come from Africa? I think beauty's right. It must be our diets. |
Tonya
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2241
Registered: 07-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 01:47 pm: |
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And let's not forget their bone structure--that's FLAWLESS too. |
Doberman23
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 297
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:02 pm: |
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you women on here are lezzies |
Lil_ze
Newbie Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 23
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:27 pm: |
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its obvious from my many posts on this thread, that i am black. and a great supporter of our people. i have the understanding that our people are distinct and great. i don't have to praise the other dark races, because i know that dark skin does not equal the same race. there is no such thing as an african race. but i use the term "african" to refer to the dark races who dwell in the land of africa. i have great love for our people. but i have no love for the dark races that enslaved our people. my mother was a member of the black panther party. my mother knew assata shakur. my position is that our nation that was enslaved and scattered throughout north, south and central america, were and are a nation. we are beautiful in every way. i don't have to praise or look to dark races in africa for who my people are. i know and understand our people are a great nation. hey people, can we have some pride in ourselves and stop praising other nations who did nothing but enslave us. i believe in the absolute superiority of our people. my posts have zero to do with white supremacy. because the so-called white man is the criminal and thief, who through violence, took over the world. this red cave man is not superior. the so-called white man is the father of lies. but i stiil understand the africans ARE NOT our people. the white man is the one who trys to teach our people they are african. but some of us know better. |
Enchanted
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 118
Registered: 11-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 06:03 pm: |
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Excuse us Mrs. Hart, Why does Assata Shakur call herself an African then? Why do the Panthers?
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 358
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 06:20 pm: |
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Lil Ze, You are correct. Any Black person here reading your posts can recognize that you are a Black person. Some of them even know what shade of brown you are. And I think you're a female but I'm not sure. Anyway, don't let these ppl's silly insults get you down. I posted a pic of Cynthia McKinney looking like something-that-the-cat-dragged-in over on another thread and got called out my name for no reason. I hadn't even said anything one way or the other. But they saw the pic and how awful it looked, and got angry with me because Cynthia McKinney looks ridiculous - like the shit is my damn fault. Anyway, don't pay no attention to some of these people around here. They don't even have sense enough to comprehend reason. And if they disagree with your points - they resort to name calling and insults like calling you a white person - when you never even addressed your remarks towards any of them anyway. You're just expressing your opinions and exercising your constitutional right to freedom of speech. |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2248
Registered: 07-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 07:17 pm: |
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"Excuse us Mrs. Hart, Why does Assata Shakur..."
Mrs. Hart indeed. I caught that too. |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 81
Registered: 03-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:01 pm: |
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Mzuri--
I cannot fathom why you would just outright disregard all the other pure bigotry that bleeds in Lil_ze posts. And then you're trying to falsely build this poster up as a victim--
Maybe he/she is black--but his/her ideas mirror a lot of what White Nationalists think--insulting Africans by calling them 'ugly' and referring to their country as 'poor, starving, and full of murderers'. What is America then? A utopia of the complete opposite?
Lil_ze you are a very confused soul. How can African's not be your people? If you were to trace you family lineage where will it lead you to?? Scotland?? Ireland?? |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 360
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:37 pm: |
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Because there's no bigotry. Any more than Kola's posts are bigoted. They are simply stating their own beliefs and opinions. And how do you figure I'm building someone up as a victim? You're reading into my comments intentions that do not exist.
You're also taking Lil Ze's comments out of context. She (or he) was making the point that the reason Sophie Okenedo was cast in Hotel Rwanda was because she is probably more attractive than an actual real Rwandan. (When film makers are casting actors, they must take into consideration if these are ppl that the rest of us actually want to see - as in PAY to go see.) Again, this is her opinion and she's entitled to it. But she can speak for herself.
Can the rest of us simply express our opinions here without some of y'alls incessant and unnecessary name calling and belittling of each other? Because if you really believe someone here is posing (and posting) as a Black person, when they are really a white person - then go find out where they at, take some pix, and post them here - instead of accusing ppl of doing things that you can't even substantiate.
And stop taking this stuff so personally - this is a discussion board. Could we have some light hearted conversations here every once in a while? |
Prettybabygirl
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Prettybabygirl
Post Number: 274
Registered: 04-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:51 pm: |
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Mzuri, what race of people has Kola said are worthless, evil, savages? What group of people by race, color or religion has she not celebrated members of?
I realize that I step in here at the risk of being accused of being Kola herself, which is ludicrous in itself, but how in the world are you going to claim that Lil_ze is no different than Kola?
Lil_ze sounds like Hitler and the KKK combined when she describes African people. Kola just wants her own reflection respected and to exist. She proved with her autobiography that she's known and loved all races of people.
Secondly, there are tons of unattractive white women stars like Kathy Bates who appear in movies because they make the role realistic. Whoopi Goldberg was this country's top female box office star for nearly half a decade, but I guess you forgot. Lastly, in a nation of 20 million black women, you are saying there is not a beautiful black Rwandan sister living who could represent her people?
I might have went to see the movie if they had put some real Rwandans up in there!
This isn't the first post I've read where you came off as some self-hating Jack and Jill club bigot.
Your views on the sista that was raped and on Cynthia Mckinney's natural hairstyle prove to me that you have a low opinion of black women and black people in general. Your also one of those light bright yellow sistas (I'm one too) but you have a problem with people who really love their blackness and don't identify with the rules you live by. White rules about what is normal.
You suck, Mzuri.
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Prettybabygirl
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Prettybabygirl
Post Number: 275
Registered: 04-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:55 pm: |
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Mzuri, how pretty is Barbra Streisand and Sissy Spacek to you?
Hilary Swank has two Oscars because she's a beauty queen?
Was Cicely Tyson a beauty queen in MISS JANE PITTMAN?
That role in "Hotel Rwanda" called for a biracial Tutsi. They do not come in yellow.
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Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 361
Registered: 01-2006
Rating:
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PBG - Kola's "authenticy" movement could be viewed by some as bigoted. And I feel that the ppl that post here have the right to express their opinions. I have no views on the "sista" that was raped other than she should have been more careful of her surroundings. And I don't have anything against prostitutes either. They are all around us. My position on prostitution is that it should be legalized. I stated facts that a prostitute claiming to be raped has a snowball's chance in hell of winning a court case. Do you have some facts to dispute that?
And Cynthia McKinney - the woman is a joke. That's my opinion and many many others agree. Does her hair need to be straight, smooth and slicked back to suit me? No. But she needs to get her act together, starting with that mess of a MOP. It's awfullllll. She needs to get a trim, a style, a wig or something. And she needs to conduct herself as a law abiding citizen just like the rest of us are expected to do. But enough on that.
If you think I suck - again - you are entitled to your opinion. I never kissed a$$ and I'm not going to start now. I tell it like it is in your face, on the phone, in a letter and on a discussion board. And trust me PBG, I don't hardly hate myself. If somebody ever loved themselves more than me, I have yet to meet them - I don't think they exist. I quit my job just so that I could stay at home to take care of MYSELF!!! 24/7!!!
And how figure you know my complexion is beyond me. It has nothing to do with my opinions, but perhaps you should try for job at the PSYCHIC BITCHES HOTLINE! |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 362
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:20 pm: |
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PBG - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And when casting MOVIES, beauty is in the eye of the producer, director, casting agent and possibly the writer. |
Lil_ze
Newbie Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 24
Registered: 01-2006
Rating:
Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:38 pm: |
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mzuri, as always thank you for the support. some people on this board seem to be able to ignore kola boof's ignorant posts, where she refers to our people as slaves, children of slave, impure, etc. calls some of the people in our nation high yellow and other derogetory names. when kola boof says, "in here to get all up in YOU BLACK-AMERICANS". her posts are filled with hate toward our people. but some of our people are so blind they can't or refuse to see this. to the person who asked, "how can africans not be my people"? read my above posts, they answer your question. africa is a land mass, not a race. the land of africa has different races with dark skin. not one race called "africans". im not gonna repeat the same points over and over. our people dwelt in a land mass 3 times the size of the united states. it does not mean we are the same people as the dark races that dwell there. i trace my roots, not to a land mass with various different dark races. i trace my roots to my father, his father,his fathers father and so on. our people are a nation. we owe our existance to our forefathers. our forefathers are not africans. we are not some broken off part of some mythical race called africans. i trace my roots to our people. we don't descend from africans, we descend from our foreparents. just because our people dwelt in a land mass, does not mean we are the same race or were ever a part of the dark races that dwell there. my above post explain more about this. we as a people don't have to look at the africans for who we are. we just have to look in the mirror. we don't give ourselves credit for anything. some posters on this board are actually upset at someone telling them how great they are, how special our people are, how beautiful are people are. they say no! "we are not special, we are not great, we are not distinct". "we are just some watered down version of the africans". how sad. we have no confidence in ourselves. we give all the credit for who we are to the africans. these africans enslaved us and sold our people. and today they are killing and raping our people in liberia. why assata shakur and the black panthers called themselves africans. is because when we were enslaved, those who enslaved us attemted to erase our identity and our nationhood. this is why many of our people blindly accept that they are africans. this was done to strip us of who we are. mzuri, thank you for being able to think without getting emotional. some of our people would rather praise another nation rather than take pride in themselves.
rachel true- i love you |
Mzuri
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 363
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:47 pm: |
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And I think that Lil Ze should be a professional writer. That's what I think about it and I'm stickin to it!  |
Lil_ze
Newbie Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2006
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:55 pm: |
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again, thank you mzuri. we need to support one another. not name call and try to bring each other down. especially, just because some of us differ in opinion. thank you for the kind words. i am a male.
rachel true- i love you! |
Lil_ze
Regular Poster
Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 26
Registered: 01-2006
Rating:
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mzuri, thank you for the kind words. our people need to support each other. not name call and try to bring each other down. our people should be able to disagree without being disagreeable. if our people differ in opinion fine. but name calling and slurs, not only are childish, but demonstrates the inability of some people to have a conversation without lowering themselves by name calling. mzuri, again thank you for the kind words. name calling gets us no where, it just brings us down and divides us. i am a male.
rachel true- i love you! |
Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1965
Registered: 02-2005
Rating:
Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:28 pm: |
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No, you're not a MALE,
Lil_ze...you're a trifling
punk ass nigger bitch CREE-HOLE.
Goddamned dog-sperm drinking
motherfucker.
Your father was a White Savage,
and your mother was the Dalit
Indian SKANK whose Hurr was
so long she could sit on it
while she sucked his red dick.
And Mzuri--IN WHAT DREAM were
you planning on sticking your
foot up KOLA BOOF'S ASS,
Texas CUNT-Breathed Mr. MAGOO
CHAS'N Pork Rind-slobber'n
WHYY-N-CH???
You must have had your face
at the bottom of that catfish
pond too long--catch'n them with
your bare mouth.
For you to talk some shit like that.
Because we BOTH KNOW...that all
you can do is TALK.
It's well noted that I done
whooped grown men's asses--so
I don't know what part of your
CACAUSIAN SUPREME PERM KIT
done leaked down to the brain
cells---but you ain't
WOMAN ENOUGH to get down
in the grass with Kola.
You lost your fucking soul
a LOOOOONG time ago, Dick-Breath.
I would beat the monkey-funk
outta your stank ass cunt and
make you eat my pussy and lick
between my toes before I bashed
your fucking head in.
NIGGA BITCH.
I wish the fuck you
would raise your
foot to me,
you buck-toothed BAMA.
TEXAS ain't shit, bitch.
Let me show you some D.C.
up in your coffin, BITCH.
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Brownbeauty123
AALBC .com Platinum Poster
Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 82
Registered: 03-2006
Rating:
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Mzuri--
Why are you challenging Kola's beliefs against another poster's?
You are making sweeping generalizations that everyone who disagree's with Lil_ze's values/beliefs/opinions must agree with Kola's. Whose to say I or anyone ENTIRELY agrees with EITHER of these posters?
And no one has belittled ANYONE why are you blowing things out of proportion? As of yet, no 'bitches' and 'hoes' and 'fuck yous' have came from any of my posts. I can't help the fact that certain ideas coming from a particular posters mirrored a mind of a white nationalist--
Whoever these 'some people' are who 'ignore' Kola's so-called 'ignorant' posts need to be directly addressed...cause all you're doing is bringing nothing but baggage from old discussions that happened in the past.
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Kola_boof
"Cyniquian" Level Poster
Username: Kola_boof
Post Number: 1966
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:41 pm: |
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Brownbeauty123,
What Mzuri doesn't realize is that
most of us on this board have known
each other 5 years or longer.
They know more about me and who
I am than any person could possibly
gage just by scanning a few posts.
Mzuri is another Cynique who
detests Black People who don't fall
in line with PC Whiteness----and
I reiterate....
that any Black human being
who so clearly HATES/DETESTS Africa
and its people---can't possibly
love themselves.
At the core of EVERYTHING I feel
and say about "Black Americans"--is
a obsessive love for them. Because
THEY ARE ME.
These are some dumb motherfuckers.
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Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 364
Registered: 01-2006
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Give it a rest Kola. Damn. If you would have observed my post says I have a size six foot. You're intelligent enough to know that would indicate that I am very small compared to you. Like 5'3" weigh 120 lbs. Aren't you 6'5" or something? Calm the fuck down and stop hyperventilating. Save that shit for Days of Our Lives! |
Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 27
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:55 pm: |
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for anyone who had questions. read the above posts by this proud african/arab kola boof. what a bitter, jealous, attention hungry, pathetic soul this is. still obsessed with our people. read the language in her posts. she is proof of what ive said all along. that these africans have burning hatred and envy of our people. the truth is presented for all of our beautiful people to read. and this african can't stand it. it kills this african that some of our people can see through their lies. notice, still, how this proud african lives and breathes our people. every waking moment of this proud africans life is spent focused on our people. this proud african is fuming because some of our people know and understand that the african is our enemy who enslaved us, and sold us. is there anyone out there who can't see what a low down, jealous, irrational lunatic this is? read her words, and see the hatred and envy toward our people. what a sad jealous soul. but its no surprise, being that every inch of her soul burns to be a part of us. but, hey proud african, you are not and will never be a part of our people. it hurts but its true. so all the lies you have tried to put in the heads of our people, is for naught. our people have an identity, and it doesn't include you or your african countrymen. please stay away from us. you are so proud. go amongst your own people. our beautiful nation has no use for you.
rachel true- i love you! |
Mzuri
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Username: Mzuri
Post Number: 365
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:57 pm: |
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Lil Ze - Cool! Well, you have a very sensitive writing style and so I wasn't sure. Not that being sensitive is a bad thing, just that most men don't seem to be, although they really are deep down inside.
So are you a writer? I am an aspiring writer. And I'm always writing something and never finishing anything. Books, movie screenplays, poems, etc. Well actually, I recently finished a spoken word poem entitled "MotherFucker" LOL! It's really deep and I perform it really well too.
Anyway, since you're kind of new here - let me tell you about my board name. It is not Missouri or Misery as some of the ppl around here seem to think. It's pronounced M-zuh-ree - and it means "I feel good" in Swahili.
I'm out for now. I have an early morning interview with a national industry publication and I've got to get a good night's sleep.
TTYL!!!  |
Rastafurious
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Username: Rastafurious
Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2006
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Kola Boof is such a nasty nasty nasty evil human being |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 301
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 11:40 pm: |
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what the fudge is a cree-hole? is that like creole like the language spoken by the hatians, like because i'm not getting how that is an insult or maybe your talking about those folks from new orleans they speak creole too, but it's not the same ... i once ate some shrimp creole, but it like had nothing to do with language ... what was i talking about? ... and mzuri, you seen what happened to ralph tresvant for being sensitive didnt u? wha...huh? u aint heard ... he was beaten up by a little girl while performing at a high school in north dakota
*im lieing. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 94
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 11:51 pm: |
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"Ghanians and Nigerians don't look anything alike.
You must be blind.
It's the SENEGALESE and GAMBIANS who look
just alike.
BENIN people look almost identical to
other West Africans---except for the "cupid bow"
mouth.
And when you mentioned "flat feet"---you conveniently left out "paddle shaped".
Changing what I said to suit your
mantra. "
but kola,
i remember one time i was saying the exact same thing as you're saying here but you kept saying africans weren't that diverse and that they all looked so alike no matter what tribe they were from or what part f africa they were from.
this was when me and you were debating over rather or not race actually exists.
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Rastafurious
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Username: Rastafurious
Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 11:53 pm: |
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Who she calling cree-hole shes a see u next tuesday |
Misty
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 02-2006
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kola
just wanted to say that in your posts # 1961 that the second African woman (the one that’s extreemely dark with the red and black cap on) is extremely gorgeous. Is she a model and also what’s her name if you know it?
Also in your post # 1964, the last post where you posted the pictures of those 2 african women the second woman is pretty but the first one you posted (the nude one) has a nice body but her face isn't very attractive at all and borderline hideous...
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Misty
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 02-2006
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Lil_ze is an idiot (or either simply doesn;'t have good eyesight) if he or she can look at those women that i just pointed out and claim they're ugly and that black american women look better?
the really dark woman wiht the red and black hat on, you can't see a single blemish on her skin. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 99
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:18 am: |
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"Lil_ze,
is NOT a black person. You cannot be--you must be some nonblack person who is posing as a Black and/or person of color. "
beleive it or not, i actually KNOW some blacks personally who ahve the same views as lil_ze
BUT, i think you're right that Lil_ze is non-black because there's jsut something about the way he/she talks that just sounds unnatural...it's not because of her views but there's jsut somethign not right.I'm jsut getting a false vibe from whoever this person is.
and i think the reaosn he-she comes off as a poser is because of the way they choose to deliver their message (not the message itself but the way it's delivered).
but i felt somethng false aobut this poster before i started reading other posts that were claiming he-she may be a fake so it jsut goes to show other people saw it too. |
Rastafurious
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Username: Rastafurious
Post Number: 23
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:28 am: |
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theres something false about u 2 like u cant spell see u next tuesday |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 303
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:29 am: |
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how dare you compare that african chick to halle berry!!! i-i-i-i'm insulted! and what the hell are those scars on her chest? ... (i am a breast expert by the way...so that's the first thing i noticed ) your just gonna have to hate me even more kola, but oh well, it's not an exclusive club ... she is no where near as fine as halle, the girl under her is cute but the other ...hellls naw! and you know what all you women need to stop trying to talk about other unattractive women and ask why they don't get this or that, if you where talking about some of the ones that looked good then fine you at least have somewhat of an argument, but some of these women you all bring up (cicly tyson)... man your smoking! and kola i remember you having a picture posted with an ashy booty on it, talkin' about that's the way booties are supposed to look ... look, i've had many of nice juicy hiney's in my hand (all females of course) and not one of them where ashy, i can't believe you even said that ... i wish my girl might show me her ass being all ashy like that, i would put some vaseline or jergens on it immediately. and that light skinned girl with that pleasant little kool aid smile is cute, so you only need to say how cute she is in all of your posts. what else, oh yeah ... i work with all white guys and not once have i heard any of them say hillary swank is fine ... i'd love to hit that! hell none of them even bring up julia roberts, they talk about pam anderson, victoria secrets models, playboy playmates, and jessica alba ... so black guys are going to talk about the women who show off the goods too, except it will be black or hispanic women ... occasionally an asain one too. anyways kola you need to show some tight ass sistas instead of that other stuff. oh yeah, and all you fudgers are the same thing... black americans so shut the hell up, if someone dropped your asses off in africa you wouldn't know where the fudge you where at ... and prolly get ate up by a lion or somethin if you didn't dehydrate first. |
Nels
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Username: Nels
Post Number: 337
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:38 am: |
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Misty --
"BUT, i think you're right that Lil_ze is non-black because there's jsut something about the way he/she talks that just sounds unnatural...it's not because of her views but there's jsut somethign not right.I'm jsut getting a false vibe from whoever this person is."
You may be in for a suprise. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 102
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:43 am: |
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mzuri said
"And I think that Lil Ze should be a professional writer"
ummm..you're entitled to your opinion but on what grounds do you think should he/she be a professional writer? because it chooses to dog everything black? hmm...not that it matters but i kind of thought of you in a different way at first.
were my eyes decieving me or did this lil_ze person claim that africans are supposedly jealous of "our women" because our women supposedly look better and black americans are supposedly less savage than africans?
i won't lie or be fake...i have my own hangups and qualms wiht africans too but not like that...mine are a bit different and not based on hatred for african feautres and culture. |
Schakspir
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Username: Schakspir
Post Number: 261
Registered: 12-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 12:54 am: |
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Mzuri is another Cynique who
detests Black People who don't fall
in line with PC Whiteness----and
I reiterate....
Yes, anybody who criticizes the Great One(aka Kola Boof) is a supreme Africa-hater. That's because Kola IS Africa. (Not.) |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 104
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:19 am: |
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Brownbeauty,
if the janjuweed (africans who are half arab) are this dark, then why can't the woman in the picture that kola posted be biracial.
take a look at this photo of the janjuweed gunman, he's pretty dark so i understand kola when she says that if you go to africa someone that color can be seen as biracial
http://www.aach.net/rantburg/images/janjaweed1.jpeg
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Rastafurious
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Username: Rastafurious
Post Number: 24
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:25 am: |
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misty is retarded |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 107
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:34 am: |
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are you the same rastafurious from mindkandy's? |
Lil_ze
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Username: Lil_ze
Post Number: 28
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:42 am: |
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interesting, people on this board are able to tell if someone on this board is black or not. very small minds. if a person has a different opinion. the reponse is, "this person is not black". or "their posts sound unnatural". well, how does a natural post sound? how ignorant. misty,i don't think you are black because something about your posts seem unnatural. a real black person would not say,"i have hang-ups and qualms with africans", like you did in your above post. so you cannot be black, right? i just have that feeling you are not a black person. i feel you are a poser because something about your posts just feels false. im glad others like rastafurious see it also. MISTY, please stop posing as a black person. because a black person would not say what you said in your above post. i just have this "feeling" you are not one of our people. |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 109
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:48 am: |
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you're stupid and can't read....i pointed out very distinctly that it wasn't because of WHAT you said that made me feel that way.....there is just something about you that gives me false vibes...i can't place a finger on it. |
Enchanted
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Username: Enchanted
Post Number: 119
Registered: 11-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:50 am: |
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Lil_ze please can it. We know that your Mrs. Heart with a new name. You're a white racist transvestite and You're desperate for us not to like Kola Boof and scared everyone will be her followers. Don't worry you got it. I can't stand her.
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Rastafurious
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Username: Rastafurious
Post Number: 25
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 02:37 am: |
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misty place your finger up your ass dumb see u next tuesday can u do that? |
Misty
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Username: Misty
Post Number: 112
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 02:47 am: |
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pure ignorrance..that's all i have to say...i don't have the time nor energy to go back and forth, so i'm putting you on ignore. |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 83
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:52 am: |
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Doberman--
I can't believe white dudes are still sweating that old broad Pam Anderson LOL She is a washed up leatherface hag. I'd hate to think of all the nasty STD's resting in the crevices of her cooch. Her looks could rival a tranny WITH makeup.
And Playboy Playmates?? Are you kidding me? Those excessively airbrushed, generic looking bottled blonde blow up dolls who ALL look like--I forgot we are talking about white guys tastes.
Jessica Alba is cute to me--she don't have no ass like she claim she does. But she's aiight. Doberman what kind of women do you like, cause you tend to favor only lightskin or hispanic women |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 307
Registered: 01-2006
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i favor attractive women, i don't care what race they are or if they are light or dark. and brownbeauty, my track record is pretty regarding complextion. when i converse with the white dudes i work with i bring up halle, i used to like vivica til she got with 50 cents (i lost all respect for her after that), Maia Campbell, and kola buff ..psyche! eva mendez is nice too. by the way pam anderson is kanye west video and she still looks bangable in that video to me. |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:25 pm: |
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But all the women you brought up are mixed.
Halle Berry (mixed; of course white dudes are going to like her no explanation necessary)
Maia Campbell (again, she's mixed)
Vivica Fox (she's Black--we're getting somewhere)
Fortunately, Pamela Anderson's faded looks are still capable of being carefully concealed when she's bathed, and has makeup perfectly applied over the cracks of her leathery skin. She's so nasty to me--she's swallowed so much semen in her youth that when she sweats it comes out in her pores. Nasty broad. ::shutters:: |
Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 308
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:46 pm: |
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i do not care what you say bb... because they are all or where hot at the moment i was talking about women who i wouldn't have a chance with anyways. i dont get caught up into all the light/dark shiznit like you silly girls do. i will kick it with who i want and your approval means squat .
now onto the the defense of all the women who are considered whores in the media ... half of these women in the media have their hook-ups put out there on full blasts, take britney spears for example... alot of ppl call her a whore ... but realisticaly she's been with about 5-6 guys, j-lo about 6-9 guys, and pam anderson about the same. i know damn well that half of the american women can top that easily ... making judgements on other people is not always a good thing especially when you prolly have done even worse things. and keep in mind that if u and your husband where being freaks one day and taped it on video doesn't make u a whore ....kay im done |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:36 am: |
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LOL
Jennifer Lopez is a grown azz woman, and there is a lot of her life that we as the public do NOT know about. She is not going to honestly tell anyone how many men she's been with (or any woman) to the public if the numbers are higher. They have a image to uphold and of course they're going to tell the public they've been with only x amount of men. It's really HER business, i don't care how many men JLO or Pam has been with honestly.
I just think Pam is really trashy even if she's only been with 1 man, but I suspect a whole lot more. And celebs have a private life that is kept hidden while we only know of the "high profile" public relationships they put forth.
Doberman, you don't seem to like ANY darkskin Black women though.
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Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 935
Registered: 08-2005
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I may be showing a bias because I think the woman is freaking spectacular looking and I'm VERY envious of her, but if anyone thinks Sheryl Lee Ralph is not as beautiful as Pam Anderson, it's apparent that their beauty is not being judged at all, but something else. |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 03-2006
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Renata,
are you talking about Pam Anderson? |
Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 936
Registered: 08-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:13 am: |
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oh, GOD NO! |
Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 03-2006
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LMAO!
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Doberman23
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Username: Doberman23
Post Number: 312
Registered: 01-2006
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lezzies! |
Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 938
Registered: 08-2005
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If you were my only alternative ... |
Maples_grl
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Username: Maples_grl
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2006
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Hmmm.. Wentworth Miller Black?
White characteristics:
-Has money
-Has hit show
-Doesn't have Illegitimate kids
-Doesn't own a gun
Black characteristics:
-In Prison
Come on ppl... first yall want to be respected for you and not just the color of ur skin... NOW you're fighting over whose blacker!
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Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 108
Registered: 03-2006
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Maples, do you think he's Black?
Cause obviously he has descended into Whiteness. |
Renata
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Username: Renata
Post Number: 947
Registered: 08-2005
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I still can't see how anyone would even know he was, unless he told the world himself. |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 136
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:46 pm: |
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you think WentWorth dates Black women? |
Fortified
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Username: Fortified
Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2006
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If Wentworth Miller identified himself solely as "black", would he still be considered as "white" to you? |
Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 168
Registered: 03-2006
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Yeah. It makes no difference what he calls himself because that's not what he is. |
Savant
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2004
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frankly, i don't care how wentworth miller "identifies".
he's fine as hell and i'd get with him in a heartbeat.
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Brownbeauty123
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Username: Brownbeauty123
Post Number: 169
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:44 pm: |
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Savant, to be frank nobody questioned your concern about his racial identity. And this is the wrong thread to not care.
If you think he's hot, simply post it and move about your business. |
Savant
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Username: Savant
Post Number: 3
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wow, you really chastised me, didn't you?
"race" by definition is a constuct that has political and social significance rather than biological. thus, the "one-drop rule" came into existence to buttress "whiteness", a socio-cultural reality that evolved over time, involving the solidification and unification of many disparate ethnic european groups into a whole who became "white" within a particular socio-political context, unified and grounded in an ideology of white supremacy that involved the oppression of an equally heterogeneous, evolving group of people of african descent who became "negro"/"colored"/"afro-american"/"african Aamerican", etc. "blackness" in this country has never been predicated upon genotype or "purity", even predominance of african ancestry (which is why all this talk about "authentic" blackness is frankly perplexing as if some standard phenotype is the litmus test for "authenticity") but has instead been a cultural and political reality, rooted in a history of common oppression and struggle, born of the slave experience. thus, people like wentworth miller have been part of the black community because the phenomenon of hypodescent forged a singular community unified around common cultural experiences rather than skin tone or hair texture solely. at the point where the system of slavery relegated people of african descent into bondage, no matter how attenuated that african descent became i.e., people whose physical features spanned the gamut from dark-skin to ivory, with eye color ranging from dark brown to grey, green, hazel and even blue, hair texture ranging from kinky to straight---"blackness" ceased to be solely about color or physiognomy but became primarily a cultural experience, rooted in a historical memory of enslavement and a common identity forged by the experience of racial oppression and disenfranchisement. to call into question wentworth's "entitlement" to "blackness" or a black identity is to fly in the face of history and dishonor the memory of such titans as walter white, romare bearden, adam clayton powell, charles chestnutt and countless others. it does violence to the experience of every black ancestor who suffered the degradation and dehumanization of slavery and jim crow despite being labelled so-called "mulattoes", "quadroons", "octoroons" and so forth. to begin to parse "blackness" at this late date according to some non-existent fulcrum of "black purity" runs counter to the complexity of the african american experience in the U.S. but sadly, we always seem to fall for some questionable agenda without fully examining its intent. whose interests are being served by the fragmentation of the black community along spurious color lines? why is there now such a concerted attempt to reframe the parameters of "blackness"? white supremacy is about increasing its numbers, understanding clearly that its demographic is under siege and in order for white supremacy to maintain hegemony on the global level, new "honorary" whites must be produced. ergo the ideological thrust towards "biracialism" within the past two decades---an agenda advanced largely by disgruntled white women desperately attempting to accord white-skin privilege to their "mulatto" children. the problem is that rather than examine the ramifications of the "biracial" movement and the attendant switch in nomenclature, we, as a people, react out of emotionalism, and our deeply imbedded colorism, a by-product of racism and white supremacy. thus we engage in in-fighting and the politically divisive and disruptive game of one-upmanship along the lines of who is "blacker than thou" based on the most nonsensical of indicators (physical features/complexion) rather than close ranks around the issue of a common identity rooted in our historical oppression and current condition as an oppressed community under seige.
but hey, don't let me stop the flow here. it's obvious i'm in the wrong thread. let me find another board where i can just revel in wentworth's "hotness", 'cause the brotha is most certainly fine. |
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Yeah, Wentworth is cute, I would not classify him as fine. Blair Underwood is fine!!
But to get back on topic...
I would like to know what constitutes authentic blackness. Is it just skin tone, hair texture, nasal apertures, shape of the lips? What about genetic mutations that change the phenotypes of "blackness". Is the person still black?
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"authentic blackness", circa 2006, is any whimsical factor that folks arbitrarily trot out, generally something superficial and physical that negates the totality of the african american experience in this country and incurs more infighting, dissonance, bitter name-calling, etc.. thus, according to current revisionism, frederick douglass wasn't black because of his slaveholding white daddy.
a lot of it pivots around physiogonomy. thus boris kodjoe is probably deemed "blacker" than wentworth miller, although both of them have black fathers. certainly someone like the late judge bruce wright (known in nyc circles as "turn 'em loose, bruce" would probably be considered "black" despite his white mother, because he appears black. in other words, it's a totally capricious, arbitrary assessment in keeping with the hidden agenda of global white supremacy at its most insidious. it's sole purpose is to alienate, estrange and pit black folks against each other along the lines of complexion and lineage. and sadly, because white supremacy is so extremely efficient at its game, we are its most enthusiastic handmaidens, going cheerfully about the business of promoting our own undoing. |
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Despite your long right out of the textbook definition of race, Savant--Wentworth Miller is still not Black. He is an ethnic man--multiracial.
What if he has children by a white woman, will his children be Black, too?? And if they marry white will his grandchildren identify as Black?
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was ellen craft "black"? |
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You are out to lunch. |
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and you, my young sista, have no sense of your own people's history.
which is why you are so easily duped by every machination of white supremacy that attempts to rewrite your history and redefine your people. |
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This man your defending has NEVER played a person of color in any of his roles, not even a multiracial character, his portrayal is always WHITE. Or racially ambiguous
Wentworth Miller is not even black 'cultured' in his mindset. He's passing (since you view him as a Black man). And he belongs to the White folks. Not us.
Most black men cannot even try to identify with a character/actor like him, he has far too much Caucasion blood in his heritage to experience what its like to be truly oppressed.
Let the White people have him.
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^^^Yeah, but you make it sound like it's his fault. If he "belonged" to white people, he would present himself as white. It would be easier for him because he looks white. But he doesn't. He recognizes his multicultural make-up, and doesn't hide behind it, unlike Vin Diesel. |
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what are you talking about, that he's never portrayed a "multiracial" character, only "white"? and just who was he playing in the movie "the human stain" other than a black man?
and just what is a black "cultured" mindset? on what do you based such judgements? do you know the man personally to make this kind of assessment?
do you have any sense of the kind of rage that many extremely fair-skinned black people feel, being privy to the unguarded racist comments of many whites and bristling at the insults, often being exposed to the most visceral type of racism that is usually shielded from darker, more identifiable black folks? is your experience so limited that you know no black men who look like wentworth?
the man has never denied his black roots. and yes, i have personally seen pix of the man with black relatives. |
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The majority of his roles he has played white.
Secondly, he is not extremely fairskinned, the guy is more 'whiteskinned'. And his dad was biracial, (not Black)with a heavily mixed racial background, add his White mother-& you get another Black man??
Savant: "do you have any sense of the kind of rage that many extremely fair-skinned black people feel, being privy to the unguarded racist comments of many whites and bristling at the insults, often being exposed to the most visceral type of racism that is usually shielded from darker, more identifiable black folks?"
Brownbeauty: This deserves sympathy??? People who look more identifiably Black experience far worse scrutiny than this.
Savant:"is your experience so limited that you know no black men who look like wentworth?"
BrownBeauty: No cause there aren't any, sweetie.
Do you feel that if Nicole Kidman was raised by two black parents in an all black environment than she herself would be Black?
What makes Tom Cruise White, and Gabrielle Union Black since race is a social and political construct?
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yes, the majority of the roles he has played are white. and he has also repeatedly said that he seeks roles that are representative of who he is---not white roles, but roles like the one he took as coleman silk.
it's not a question of who deserves more sympathy. why are you so caught up in this "oneupmanship" in terms of which black folks suffer more? some very dark-skinned black folks could say that anyone even slightly browner in hue has no sense of the colorism and racism that extremely black-skinned black folks experience? so shall we embark on some kind of pecking-order of "blackness"---that only the very darkest of us are "authentic" blacks and any one even slightly lighter in complexion, even if that means the person is deep, dark brown is less "black" in comparison or less able to state that racism/oppression is a reality?
there are no black men who look like wentworth? what the hell is romare bearden then? what about sharon pratt kelly, former mayor of d.c.? what about that fair-skinned black boxing entrepreneur whose name escapes me, who promotes boxing similar to don king? none of these people are black?
what makes jada pinkett smith any more black than halle berry? they both look the same dayum way!
was rosa parks black? she looks about as "biracial" as most so-called "biracials"! was thurgood marshall "black"? was malcolm x's white-looking mother who could readily "pass" black? and if not, was malcolm black?
where does the nonsense end? and how long are we going to allow white folks to again set the parameters of "blackness" and we uncritically fall right in lockstep with their agenda?
white men established the "one-drop rule" in order to codify "blackness" and buttress "whiteness". in the mid-80's, white WOMEN began to put forth the ideological construct of "biracialism" in order to promote their own agenda. who was at the forefront of the "biracial" movement?
i swear. we fall for the okey-doke every time... |
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Pictures of Roman Bearden:
www.npg.si.edu/cexh/artnews/bearden2.htm
www.census.gov/pubinfo/www/radio/bh0225.htm
Okay, another Wentworth Miller looking White man with negro ancestry who identified with black culture. Not an uncommon thing during his time. I respect his artwork and appreciation towards Black culture. Fabulous work.
Jada Pinkett and Halle Berry look similar to you is because DUH Halle Berry is partially Black--of course she is going to have resemblance to someone who is African American that is apart of her heritage. And I'm sure Jada has a recent admixture which is why you're comparing the two. And the reason why many don't think Halle looks half-white is because she looks more of a Black/Indian mixture than a woman of European ancestry. When I look at her, I can most certainly tell that she is mixed, but I wouldn't think with European ancestry. Looking at the shade, and texture of her hair, and other features I wouldn't think that she was just Black--Like say Gabrielle Union, Kelly Rowland or Keisha Knight Pulliam..
Wentworth Miller is not someone that most black people can identify with due to his ability to so easily pass for White and portray them in movie roles. Most African Americans cannot do that.
If supposedly so many Black men look like Wentworth Miller than how come he doesn't always play one in his roles?? Why can't he make an example out of himself and stop choosing to play these racially ambiguous characters, and portray himself as Black man to show that people of color truly come in shades as white as he does?
There's nothing praiseworthy about him admitting to having a Biracial father (cause we're going to find that out anyway) only to turn around and play another White man in a movie.
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you know what? anyone that would call romare bearden, one of our premier black artists--and as celebrated an artist as tanner, lawrence, savage and all of our artistic titans--a "wentworth miller looking white man with negro ancestry" is too ignorant for me to converse with. i guess you'd say the same about elizabeth catlett too, huh? that is after you google her to find out who she is? *smh*
what about august wilson? are you even familiar with august wilson, our premier black playwright whose plays encapsulated the black experience of the 20th century? looking at him, i guess you'd dismiss him as yet "another wentworth miller looking white man with negro ancestry" too, huh?
see, that's the problem with you young folks who have no sense of your history or culture yet come on boards like this holding forth like you know something. veteran black actor frank silvera played a myriad of ethnicities on screen, yet the brotha was black. (ever heard of the frank silvera writers workshop in harlem?) it's about finding work in an industry that often has little to offer black actors. i don't begrude wentworth finding work where he can. if more of our black screenwriters would write material that is more representative of black reality in terms of not only color but class, perhaps brothas like wentworth might have more choice in terms of plum roles. not to mention the difficulty that blacks in the industry have getting quality projects greenlighted. |
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Savant--
This thread is titled Wentworth Miller, and Vin Diesel--if you want to talk about all those other miscellaneous people in black history than create a thread for it and debate it.
But I was talking about ONE man in particular being Mr. Miller, and his tendency to play nonblack characters--those other people I cannot speak for because I did not claim to know anything about them at all.
It's your right to accept this man despite him accepting white role after white role--that's your business.
But I don't have to, and will not.
I think he would do a world of justice if he did play Black characters which could possibly encourage other men with similar racial genetic makeup to play men of color more often. Instead of taking the easy route, and going the White way--while other more identifyably Black men & women are left with next to the nothing.
He said in past interviews that he's 'not white' so then why does he portray them so often and so easily then?
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no, brownbeauty, to be precise you were talking about whether or not wentworth miller and vin diesel were "black". that's how you began this thread, sis.
which is why folks were off and running debating what constitutes "blackness" and raising all kinds of points about "authentic blackness". whether or not wentworth miller takes "white" roles or whatever is not the issue. the critical issue is who is black in the context of our long and torturous sojourn in the western hemisphere and whether or not folks who look like wentworth and vin have always been a part of our community and have always been considered "black". in the same way that other names were broached further upthread and no one was told to "create a thread about it and debate it", i'm citing key black folks that most black folks identify with---not only well-known black folks but black folks who have made extraordinary and substantive contributions to our community, not just some fly-by-night celebrities who have had their moment of fame within the past few years, if you get my drift.
all i'm saying is that this trend towards contesting and interrogating who is "black" at this juncture of our history is suspect and insidious. it is a deliberate attempt on the part of white supremacy to weaken our solidarity as black folks and siphon off parts of our community in order to serve the ends of global white supremacy. if we are not aware that white supremacy is about the business of bolstering its ranks and coopting certain sectors of people of color, we will end up on the proverbial "shit-end of-the-stick". because what's ahead for us as a people will make what has occurred look like a fucking "walk in the park"---newsflash: global white supremacy has upped the ante for the new century. it will concede a modicum of white privilege to those who are willing to fall in with the "party line"; our alienating and denouncing those amongst us who happen to be lighter or of a particular class background is falling in line with this overall objective.
now you may want to deem me crazy or scoff at what i'm saying---that's your prerogative---but my suggestion is you scrutinize carefully whose ideology you align yourself with. |
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