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Brownbeauty123
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Post Number: 5
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:18 am: | 
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There have been mixed race individuals who feel as though they are being forced to identify as Black. And would like to be fairly and rightfully viewed as Mulatto or Multiracial--their true race.
Does anyone view mulattos as a race? Should they be catergorized separate from both ethnicities that brought them together?
Most of the Multiracial forums I read tend to be very, very racist towards Black people. The content of their forums are no different than those Neo-Nazi ones like Stormfront. And typically, the individuals who are the most vocal about being labeled as Mulatto, tend to have a self hatred for their African heritage. It appears to be a way to distance themselves away from anything Black. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 334
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:57 am: |
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First of all I could care less about a bunch of confused half-breeds. Secondly, that is one reason why Kola said Bi-racials should not be viewed as black. I think the real self-hatred came not from these bi-racials but from there black parents who were so desperate to mix there blood.
These bi-racials are just the end products of black self-hatred. And when you come from a black parent who hates him/herself then that hatred and pathology is naturally going to be past down to their seed. These people remind meof the mulatto house slaves after the civil war. The mulattos hated blacks so much that they set up their own societies. They would hold paper bag test, comb test, and would set up schools and universities just for them. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 335
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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What we see is the living, breathing representation of black self-hatred. The desperation of the Black man to forever lighten his offspring. In doing so he constantly proves that white or anything close to it is beautiful, and black or anything close to it is ugly, and inferior. People of color are the biggest contributors to white supremacy.
White supremacy would be nothing without someone to dominate or subjugate. These mulattos realize their priviledge in the black community, but also realize their disadvantage in the white community. They are upset because the white people regard them as simply "mutts". But black people on the other hand see them as kings and queens, but it is not black people they seek to gain respect from. It is white people.
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Mzuri
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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BrownBeauty - Mulatto is not a race, but a mixed race. Mulattos trying to distance themselves from anything Black are confused. How does one distance themselves from their own parents and ancestors? Ppl aren't going to look at a Mulatto and think of them as Mulatto, they are going to consider them as a Black person. If it makes Mulattos happy - they should tell the Census Bureau that they are Mulatto and drive on. They're still going to be considered as Black. But what's so bad or awful about being Black anyway?
Multi-racial is not a race - it is having ancestors of several or various races. And there's no way to tell what races a person is comprised of simply by the use of the term "multi-racial." They could be Caucasian and Asian with no Black ancestry at all.
Mixed-race individuals are being forced to identify as Black? Who is doing the forcing? Their families? Society? Who? |
Tonya
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Post Number: 2049
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 01:46 pm: |
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Serenasailor:
First of all I could care less about a bunch of confused half-breeds. Secondly, that is one reason why Kola said Bi-racials should not be viewed as black. I think the real self-hatred came not from these bi-racials but from there black parents who were so desperate to mix there blood.
These bi-racials are just the end products of black self-hatred. And when you come from a black parent who hates him/herself then that hatred and pathology is naturally going to be past down to their seed. These people remind meof the mulatto house slaves after the civil war. The mulattos hated blacks so much that they set up their own societies. They would hold paper bag test, comb test, and would set up schools and universities just for them.
What we see is the living, breathing representation of black self-hatred. The desperation of the Black man to forever lighten his offspring. In doing so he constantly proves that white or anything close to it is beautiful, and black or anything close to it is ugly, and inferior. People of color are the biggest contributors to white supremacy.
Tonya:
As usual, Serenasailor, you are 100% correct.
I say, let them go.... They'd be doing US one helluva HUGE favor, we'd see.
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Brownbeauty123
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 01:53 pm: |
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There's a forum that I used to read quite often called Interracial Voices. A group of mixed races individuals who had discussions about not wanting to be catergorized as Black but--Mulatto. There was even a poster who advised mixed race individuals to mate with each other to *create* a new race. (That sounds creepy ass hell).
What I gathered they were a very smug, conceited, and arrogant group of ppl. There was even a mixed race guy who got angry when a poster saw his photo and told him that he looked Black---the mixed race guy told him that he is NOT Black and that he looks Mulatto. ?????
Although, now I assume the board is defunct. Because the last poster was back in '03. But those ideas are still very apparent in other forums geared towards multiracial people.
These so called Mulatto Nationalists are popping up more often on both Black and White cultured forums (confused, perhaps??). From what I observed, they are a MUCH nicer to the white folks. One MN had posted a thread on Stormfront (the biggest racist site out there) about their venture to expand the Mulatto race; and received considerably fair treatment from those damn Nazis. They even considered giving them their own subforum to maximize the awareness to other mixed race individuals. Something they would never EVER do for Blacks (and they have stated so, because they think Mulattos have a better chance than us ol' black folks). The idea was shut down in the end, but it shows you how certain mixed race individuals are using this term Mulatto not Black to their greatest advantage.
"Mixed-race individuals are being forced to identify as Black? Who is doing the forcing? Their families? Society? Who?"
Some blame society, in particular African Americans because *we* supposedly reinforce the 'one drop rule'.
I think that they should identify with a particular race, and stick with it. Stating that your race, is Mulatto or Multiracial is simply saying "Yes, I exist." It's such a powerless statement to me. You can be able to appreciate and celebrate your heritages but you can't lump them all together and try to pass it off as one.
And most mixedrace individuals who are Black/White are going to have to identify with their African heritage anyway. Because they're a minority--which has a lot more in common with Black than White.
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Moonsigns
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:23 pm: |
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I encountered a few mixed race people in my lifetime that fit that type (want to seperate from anything black). However, I find, in general, that more mixed race people identify as black because they want to.
I would like to see "race"--as man has created it--to disappear. I don't like the idea of counting humans beings like they are farm animals. To me, it desensitizes humans as to what is really of true value and significance in this life. However, unless that changes, I don't mind if people, when and if it comes up in conversation, are open to sharing their backround. And while I think it is more than normal for people to do this, I also think it is wise for parents of Biracial/Multiracial children to educate them to the ways of this world system in regards to colorism/racism. Not as a way of making them fear who they are--but making them aware of just how ignorant some people in the world are.
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Afroamerican
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Post Number: 182
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 01:53 pm: |
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Totally agreed!
These "mulattos" are the SUM OF ALL BLACK SELF HATRED! So in a way they are exactly what many Blacks deserve!
I was telling someone else this on another board. I know many "Blacks" who honestly don't want to be "Black" themselves. The only difference is they don't have a VALID EXCUSE as to why they aren't Black.
I remember watching the O.J. Simpson trial years back when O.J. was charged. Anytime anybody brought up a race question he'd either claim how racist the system was to Black men (as if it didn't keep him from marrying and dating White women EXCLUSIVELY) OR how he was "BLACK, WHITE AND INDIAN"- mixed basically- and simply ALLOWED people to call him Black!
Now do you really think a nigga that don't want to be Black him or herself is going to make their children SUFFER though the same "Negrotude"? |
Afroamerican
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:00 pm: |
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And the geniune question is who, or what real people- raise, feed and nuture children who WON'T identify as them?
What sense does that make!? It sounds like a waste of time to me! People have children to carry on their LEGACY- name, race, beliefs, etc!!!!
.............I promise you, these children are "nutured" OUTSIDE the Black community or either by so call "Black" parents who actually loath the very being of anything 'black'. So the children eventually "pick up" on these feelings/vibes!
All our beliefs we hold, are Taught! We aren't born knowing everything. These things are passed down from PARENT to OFFSPRING! |
Tonya
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Username: Tonya
Post Number: 2058
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Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 07:24 pm: |
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...EXACTLY
WHAT
KOLA'S
BEEN
PREACHING
SINCE
SHE
CAME
TO
THIS
BOARD!
did they wanna believe her???
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! |
Renata
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 07:49 pm: |
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You think that's a big deal....
Try talking to these fools who say "because I was born in this country with a history of black/white/Native mixing and because I'm light brown instead of dark brown/black, I should be considered mulatto instead of black, blah, blah".
And this is from people with two parents who are no more mulatto than Michael Jordan is. |
Tonya
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Post Number: 2059
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 07:59 pm: |
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Yeah, I heard that even some medium/light brown and African featured lightskinned people are trying to claim mixed/mulatto, LMBAO (!!!). I think it's good though--they are precisely the type of blacks we do not need--let them clean house for us.
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Nels
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 12:04 am: |
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On this thread, I must be seeing double. |
Brownbeauty123
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 12:52 am: |
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Since when was O.J Simpson mixed??
And his daughter is so damn fugly to me. She is a prime example that Black&White do NOT= Beautiful. |
Nels
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 01:35 am: |
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Brownbeauty123 --
"She is a prime example that Black&White do NOT= Beautiful"
We already know this is a "brown" board. So what else should we expect from you? |
Brownbeauty123
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 01:42 am: |
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"We already know this is a "brown" board. So what else should we expect from you?"
Come again?? |
Misty
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 02:29 am: |
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Brown beauty
what i've noticed is that today there are a lot of dark skinned girls in rap videos, HOWEVER, those dark girls are usually in the background while the lighter girls are usually the "feautured girl" who is always seen with the rapper and she's the one that they keep putting the camera on. When they put the camera up close to the dark girls they usually put it up close to her ass and not her face and that's if they put the camera up close to her at all.
something i'm kind of confused about is that everyone keeps saying that there are more non black women in rap videos than there are black women...but this is something i just haven't noticed at all....Most videos i've seen mainly have tons of black women (rather dark, light skin or biracial), and maybe 2 asian women and about 3 hispanics andf maybe 1 or 2 white girls (that's if they even ahve a white girl in them at all).
Of course most rap videos are very color struck...but i don't think they are as color struck as everyone keeps claiming.
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Tonya
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Post Number: 2066
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 03:54 pm: |
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Misty:
When they put the camera up close to the dark girls they usually put it up close to her ass and not her face....
Tonya:
This is the ULTIMATE in colorstruck..
(not to mention the ULTIMATE in insults)....
How much more colorstruck can colorstruck be???
If it were a white video featuring a white rock/rap star and they did this to the only two black dancers in the crowd, how fast do you think blacks would be hitting the streets and message boards in protest? Would you then be saying, "i don't think they are as color struck {racist} as everyone keeps claiming??"
I don't think so.
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Serenasailor
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Post Number: 365
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 07:41 pm: |
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Since when was O.J Simpson mixed??
And his daughter is so damn fugly to me. She is a prime example that Black&White do NOT= Beautiful
Hello, werent his kids by his first wife beautiful. I believe Arnell was his first daughter she was gorgeous. |
Serenasailor
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Post Number: 366
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 07:42 pm: |
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what i've noticed is that today there are a lot of dark skinned girls in rap videos, HOWEVER, those dark girls are usually in the background while the lighter girls are usually the "feautured girl" who is always seen with the rapper and she's the one that they keep putting the camera on. When they put the camera up close to the dark girls they usually put it up close to her ass and not her face and that's if they put the camera up close to her at all.
something i'm kind of confused about is that everyone keeps saying that there are more non black women in rap videos than there are black women...but this is something i just haven't noticed at all....Most videos i've seen mainly have tons of black women (rather dark, light skin or biracial), and maybe 2 asian women and about 3 hispanics andf maybe 1 or 2 white girls (that's if they even ahve a white girl in them at all).
Of course most rap videos are very color struck...but i don't think they are as color struck as everyone keeps claiming.
That is very true. I don't notice that many non-black women in the music videos. |
Brownbeauty123
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:27 pm: |
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I notice a lot of latinas in rap videos, more than ever.
Usually when a rapper is relatively unknown, they will cast a significant amount of Black women who are dark in complexion. If you look at just about any artist's early videos it's obvious.
Then as the rapper gains status in the entertainment industry, then they cast predominantly lightskin women. |
Schakspir
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Post Number: 245
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:29 am: |
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It's a combination of the wishes of the sell-out rapper, and the record execs, who naturally assume that lighter skin will sell more videos/get more airplay. This is the Uncle Tomming of the 2000s. |
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