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Dakota
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, it's officially Spring (although it's still cold!) and I'm starting on a load of new books to read. What is everyone else reading?

My picks (so far, i.e. at the top of the stack):

(1) Fledgling by Octavia Butler (heard this was the bomb)

(2) When Souls Mate by Joylynn Jossel

(3) The Covenant by Tavis Smiley

(4) The 5th Horseman by James Patterson (I love this series)

(5)A Piece of Cake by Cupcake Brown

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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 07:23 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Diary of a Lost Girl by Kola Boof - I'm almost finished and it's even more Kola'ish than I thought it would be [read with several "oh no she didn'ts!"]. Probably not for everyone but I love it!

On tap:
Hokum - An Anthology of AA Humor
Douglass' Women by Jewell Parker Rhodes

Time to buy/order more books. I'll keep my eye on this post for some ideas. I think Fledging will be on the top of the list.

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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 08:11 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Recently completed E. Nunez's Prospero's Daughter

reading jane austen's Sense and Sensibility
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 08:42 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just finished Cell Stephen King. Up next:
Baby Brother's Blues Pearl Cleage
Prospero's Daughter Elizabeth Nunez
The Wave Walter Mosley
The Damned LA Banks
When Souls Mate Joylynn Jossel
LiLi
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Cell is on my list, also Mixed "My life in Black and white" By Angela Nissel. She wrote the hilarious book "The Broke Diaries" If you have ever been a starving student this is a must read! Also I want to re-read The Temple of My Familiar and The Emperor of Ocean Park.
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 09:01 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The Covenant" by Tavis Smiley is on my list. I'm going to pick it up tomorrow. I'm also waiting to receive my review copy of "Gypsy" by Tzynya Pinchback. I've never been a huge fan of written poetry but this girl writes some titillating stuff. I love her poems. I'd also like to get my hands on "Freshwater Road" by Denise Nicholas.
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LibraLind2: I've read King's Cell. It's pretty much vintage King. What did you think about it?

Batmocop: You're right! The Broke Diaries is hilarious.

Emanuel: I've heard about the Denise Nicholas novel. I think I'll add it to my list.

Crystal: I've got to add Kola's book to my list too. I can't wait to read it.

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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dakota: your not kidding. I had a HARD time getting through the first 17 chapters of Cell. Whew. LOL I think his best book ever for me was The Shining.
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've completed "Third Girl from the Left" and "Madonna of Excelsior". Now, I'm reading "D.C. Noir" - a collection of short mysteries set in DC written by DC authors. I'm really enjoying it because I live in the Metro area and writers are nailing it. The stories are dead(!) on. Kenji Jasper has a contribution among others.
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Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll be taking a pass on "Cell," because I am only enthusiastic about Stephen King books when they're creepy and supernatural. (And it goes without saying I won't be reading the diary of an author who shall remain nameless, heh-heh.) But I will be adding "The Covenant" to my list and also "Strivers Row" by Kevin Baker, the last book in his trilogy about historical eras in New York.
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Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 10:40 am:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cynique:

But will you be watching "Napoleon Dynamite"? That's what we all want to know!
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the yada yada prayer group by neta jackson
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:36 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm just back form New Mexico. I visited a place called Acoma Pueblo, Sky City; which is the oldest continuously inhabited city in the U.S.

In 1680 there was a bloody revolt amoung the pueblos in the area in which the Spanish were expelled. I just finished a book called What Caused the Pueblo Revolt of 1680?

What made this book even mor interesting was the fact that this revolt was lead by an Black man named Domingo Naranjo.

Something else you won;t learn in American HIStory.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Coincidentally, currently being featured in a Hispanic museum in Chicago is an exhibition focusing on the black presence in the history of Mexico. This fact is apparently a well-kept secret which has just started coming to light in the past few years.
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Actually, I've been doing a lot of research on Afro-Mexicans. I've studied abroad in Mexico and I'm actually going there for two months beginning in September to do more research. Afro-Mexicans are mainly concentrated in two parts of Mexico, Veracruz and Costa Chica. Since Mexico doesn't include race in their government statistics (since the 1800s), many people haven't heard of them.

Another interesting tidbit: Jose Maria Morelos, an Afro-Mexican Priest, was one of the major figures in the fight for Mexican Indepedence.

Cynique: What is the name of the museum in Chicago? I am visiting Chicago in three weeks and I would love to go there. Thanks.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 02:45 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The African-Mexicans have almost been completely BRED OUT over several hundred years. There are still some handfuls of them in the South of Mexico--but the systematic "breed out" that took place in ARGENTINA is the same one used by the Mexicans.

Like The Moors, who also became "extinct"---this is what happens in WHITE-identified societies when Blacks are not "slaves". They are encouraged to breed lighter and lighter--and then they are phased out.

Troy--it really doesn't matter if a Black man led any kind of revolt---if his lineage no longer exists. Think about it.

Black America is now in the beginning stages of being phased out. First they turn you into Mulattos--then they breed you into Latinos or Arabs. Although, I'm sure many of you would be happy to be Latinos and Arabs.






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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I read an article about this display in the newspaper a couple of weeks ago, Dakota, and I am assuming that it is located at the Mexican Fine Arts Museum at 1852 W. 19th Street, Chicago, IL. 60608. I also don't know whether this is a permanent feature or not.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 03:16 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I said:

Troy--it really doesn't matter if a Black man led any kind of revolt---if his lineage no longer exists. Think about it.




Troy, let me clarify what I meant:

If you breed yourself out--you can't expect another group of people to preserve your history and to celebrate it. There were once MILLIONS of Black African Mexicans.

Unlike in "Belize" where the African Garifuna refused to be assimilated (and they RULE Belize today and are intact).....the African Mexicans willingly destroyed their own community.

There is no HISstory of that Mexican leader...because he failed to produced a lineage of Black sons who would have had a reason to preserve his legacy.

The American Indian was systematically bred out and killed off with DISEASE. Indian women were raped and separated from Indian men.

Look at Black America today.



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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:21 pm:   Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Troy,

That sounds like an interesting read -- the Latino community in Mexico is truly a cosmic race from the indigenous people, African, European and Asian influences overtime and maintained in culture, foodways, dress and some architecture.

Currently, I am reading a forthcoming work titled Unburnable about Afro-Carib Dominican people - over the course of three generations - it is an intriguing read since - the Arawak and Carib influence is no longer a "strong" aspect of the popular culture.

Africa literally is everywhere we look and she continually "pops out" in unique ways through time. Thanks for sharing -- peace

Soul Sister
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I'm reading Strange Bedfellows by Paula Woods. Next on the list: Say A Little Prayer by E. Lynn Harris, Chasing Destiny by EJD, Grindin' by Danielle Santiago
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Snakegirl, in this case the history was obviously preserved; by those truly interested in history. Fortunately there are enough historians of all races, such that, all our history has not been lost or adulterated.

In fact there was one piece in the book where a researcher followed Naranjo's line from his grandparents through several generations of his descendants...

Another piece spoke about miscegenation. It spoke about how difficult it was to control the mixing of the Spanish and indigenious enthic group - despite the, often brutal, efforts of Spanish officials.

History tells us even laws against miscegenation fail to prevent it from happening.

Snakegirl, we live in a global community. Believing that, or even wanting Blacks to marry only Blacks and whites to marry only whites, etc, is anachronistic. (There are subtlies to this arguement that I'm ignoring and do not have time address: including those who intermarry for selfhate, who procreate through rape, etc)


Soul_sister I plan to visit the Dominican Republic in a few months. I may check out the book you are reading...


Dakota, what a lifestyle I'd like to be you when I grow up.

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Troy

I am jealous of your future travel - I have a friend working there and the pictures are fabulous. The women in the book I am reading about are from Dominica - not the Dominican Republic - the one I am looking at is French speaking the one your are talking about is Spanish speaking -they are often confused. I did review one on the DR with a similiar storyline - entitled Song of the Water Saints by Nellie Rosario by Knopf 2004 peace
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I just finished "Caught Up" by Deatri King-Bey and thoroughly enjoyed the read. Still reading Leslie Esdaile Banks's "Betrayal of The Trust." Also reading Eric Jerome Dickey's "Genevieve." I've never read Eric's books and thought he must be a good author with so many books on the market. Man, it is hot. The entire first chapter is one long sex scene.
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The African Presence in Mexico: From Yango to the Present... Through September 3. Yes, it's at the Mexican Fine Arts Center Museum, 1852 West 19th Street. Prices and times vary. For information call 312-738-1503, Ext. 146. It's listed in N'Digo.
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You know you guys, if I never knew it before there are some very intelligent Black folks (or otherwise since I've never seen any of you) Up in here! I love the exchange of expierience that makes you just want to travel and most of all read...
With that (Soul_Sister) I have friends from both Dominica and the Dominican Republic. The two are night and day. But Dominica in my opinion more embraces its Afro-Roots. I am headed to Lisbon in a hot minute and the effects of the Portugese slave trade are blatently obvious there. I want to do a study and possibly write a story about how it is to grow up as a brazilian in Portugal. For now I'm jus going there to work for a while but I'm sure I will learn a lot.
-BatMo->
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Soul_sister, when I hit the send button I realized you were refering to Dominica... Song of the Water Saints by Nellie Rosario -- thanks

Batmocop, when I grow up I'm going to travel the planet, maybe off of it if I live long enough...

Peace
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Troy: My life is not that exciting, believe that. I "travel" some, but it's all about work.

MsPrissy: Thanks for the info. I really want to go there when I get to Chicago.

On a totally different note: Does anyone know the exact dates of the Harlem Book Fair this year? Thanks.
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Hello from Alabama;
Just joined today; I love to read and here's what I finished;
A Piece of Cake by Cupcake Brown(real good)
Grown Folks Business-Victoria Christopher Murray(very good as well)
Divas of Damascus Road-Michelle Stinson; this one hasn't come out yet; but it will in July; and it is pretty good; has it's points, but I like; about a family of women the secrets they hide; from the author of Boaz Brown;
George and Rue-George Clarke; now this one is a beaut; it is a novel based on a true story of some cousins of the author who were brought up in hard circumstances and in a desperate move, killed a taxi driver for his dough in 1949 Nova Scotia; they were eventually found, tried,sentenced to hang and were hanged;although he don't know the FULL story about these men, he tried to produce this novel about them; Check it out;
So You Call Yourself a Man-Carl Weber; well all I can say is that brotherman doesn't disappoint his readership; this one is just as snap crackle and pop as the others; You got one married man who finds out that he has a son from an affair he had, and the baby momma blackmail him for time and money; then you got this upright Christian brother who marries this average, big sister; even had me applauding him and thinking love is available, but he turns around and twists it; I won't break it here.
When Souls Mate-Joylynn Jossel;
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What I want to Read
The Covenant-Tavis Smiley; good,bad,indifferent or what, I would like to hear what he and others got to say;
Fabulosity-Kimora Simmons
Left to Tell-Imaculee Ilibagiza.I heard that this book is very good; I am supposed to get it real soon;it's about one woman's account of the Rwandan Holocaust;
Get Over Yourself-Tonya Pinkens(still reading)
The Bible-part of goal for this year;
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Troy said:

Snakegirl, we live in a global community. Believing that, or even wanting Blacks to marry only Blacks and whites to marry only whites, etc, is anachronistic.

Snakegirl:

The FACT is....Black Mexicans, who had their own region in Southern Mexico and existed by the millions....are now virtually extinct.

And every other group of White, Spanish, Indian dweller in Mexico....is ALIVE and THRIVING.

Ditto Argentino, which is now ALL White--where 7 million Africans vanished.

Ditto the MOORS.

So what do THOSE FACTS have to do with your comment about some "Global Community"??? Obviously, as Toni Morrison has pointed out---the GLOBAL COMMUNITY doesn't like Black skin and Nappy Hair. They don't give a damn what your achievements are--what you contribute---if you're BLACK...their aim is to dispose of you.

And tell me TROY---how does WHITE BLOOD keep triumphing over BLACK BLOOD when the black blood is genetically 10 times stronger?

How did that happen in Mexico, Argentina and now places like California and Seattle?

Apparently, these White-Blooded Races have some kind of SUPERIOR STRATEGY that Black men don't possess.

And my point remains that the GLOBAL COMMUNITY has nothing to do with the fact that there is something DEFECTIVE in what the NEGRO eye sees...as compared to what the Euro/Spanish/Indian eye sees.

You and Soul Sister's comments are trying to ROMANTICIZE and DEFEND something that has been and will be our undoing.....

it's quite tragic how none of you EVER...NEVER EVER acknowledge

acknowledge how much the people of Dominica and Dominican Republic and MEXICO and Puerto Rico HATE Black People---HATE Black People----and have always had laws and social practices to ERASE and DISCARD them---even while they were smiling in their faces.

Mulattoes are the same damned way.

Then after they kill them off (the blacks)....they CELEBRATE and CLAIM them.

I'm all for being interested that there were "Black People" in those lands achieving things---but those societies STILL represent the most profane examples of the slave mentality; the GENETIC massacre of African people---often with the African people's willing participation.

If all you can do is pay your tourist dollars and pretend that "signs of Mother Africa are popping up" all over the earth----then you are insuring that it will HAPPEN AGAIN and that we haven't learned a thing from the past.

What is ANACRONISTIC, my brother..is that the WHITE MAN is getting Whiter and Whiter.

A good 5% of the people that we CLAIM are Black Men (people like Vin Diesel, the Rock, Mariah Carey)---THEY'RE NOT BLACK; and they have more in common with and they feel more demarcation with the WHITE MAN. They don't want to be black.

I've been to Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic---those are NIGGERSTOCK. They're not Black People! They HATE Black people---unless you're a tourist with money.

You don't like what I have to say.....but by the time you're an OLD MAN.....my words will be like knots aching in the marrow of your bones----because after 500 years of EVIDENCE that the "Global Community" can't stand our black ass---you're on automatic repeat.

We need to teach OUR CHILDREN....what really happened and is happening.

Black Americans are being watered down, neutralized and PHASED OUT because they don't see things the way they really are.

I look around and I see every group MULTIPLYING and getting stronger but ours.

What good is "Mother Africa popping up" everywhere if she's an old dead relic???? Back in the Slave Days there was a "GLOBAL COMMUNITY" too.

Nothing has changed.

Are there any black people in this country, America, that LOVE Black people the way GOD created them and want to see black people live forever????

I'm so sick of celebrating the DEATH of black people and the birth of some pale or red bastard child.

Instead of visiting Harriet Tubman's grave (as if our young people really give a damn)--why can't we give birth to her again???

I won't say anything else, because I know how difficult it is for all of you here to AFFIRM blackness instead of just "romanticize" it. Which is why I'm trying to phase myself out.

I pity your ancestors for what you all think of them.












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Troy:
I'm just back form New Mexico. I visited a place called Acoma Pueblo, Sky City; which is the oldest continuously inhabited city in the U.S.

In 1680 there was a bloody revolt amoung the pueblos in the area in which the Spanish were expelled. I just finished a book called What Caused the Pueblo Revolt of 1680?

What made this book even mor interesting was the fact that this revolt was lead by an Black man named Domingo Naranjo.

Something else you won;t learn in American HIStory.


You are right...but this is both fortunate and unfortunate.

It is fortunate because if schools--be it h.s. or college--taught all case of various groups and individuals doing something valiant then it would create the assumption that history is primarily about (a) war and group-aggrandizement and (b) individuals and events; and (c)in a practical sense, there is too much information to teach, especially if one wants to be fair to each groups, and there are just too many groups.


It is unfortunate because:

(a) history, as it is generally practiced and designed, results in assuaging American racisms and fascism and (b) while history shouldn't be limited to socalled important people, such histories are essential because they demonstrate in a personal way that people took a stand against something, and that nothing is won without struggle and protest.

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Hi Yukio, I miss you! :-(
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Troy
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Snakegirl I'll spawn a new thread on the culture board...

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