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of On-line Chat Featuring author Chris Chambers
Discussing Sympathy For The
Devil
Friday November 9th, 2001
Fri 4:13pm PDT linn Hello All
Fri 4:14pm PDT Thumper Linn, you may have to refresh your screen if nothing is showing up.
Fri 4:15pm PDT Linn Hi Thumper..Had to refesh
Fri 4:16pm PDT linn are you still there
Fri 4:17pm PDT Thumper Yes, I'm still here
Fri 4:17pm PDT Thumper Did you enjoy Sympathy For The Devil?
Fri 4:18pm PDT linn This is a very complicated chat room...how do you keep from refreshing so often
Fri 4:19pm PDT Thumper It's a bug in the software. I think it has a lot to do with the speed of your computer modem. If you're on a T1 line or on a network it works like a charm. It's only on modems that's not as fast where the refresh has to be used a LOT.
Fri 4:20pm PDT linn I guess I must have a slow modem..ha..hah
Fri 4:20pm PDT Thumper When I have a chat on Wednesday, and I'm at work, it's a dream. The auto-refresh works like a charm. But now that I'm home. I have to refresh like the devil.
Fri 4:21pm PDT linn Let me introduce my..I am Linda Watkins..from Indianapolis by way of Cincinnati..I met your mom throughJohnnie
Fri 4:22pm PDT Thumper Are you the young lady that works at the local campus in the city.
Fri 4:23pm PDT linn I also just read a few of your reviews. Hopefull, you will have the opportunity to meet me and also review my new novella-Thru the door.
Fri 4:25pm PDT Thumper Sure, that'll be no problem. Do you know how to reach me or my mother. Aunt Johnnie will make sure that I get it.
Fri 4:26pm PDT Thumper Have you had a chance to look over the site?
Fri 4:28pm PDT Linn Loved the site
Fri 4:29pm PDT Linn I'll get a copy to Aunt Johnnie...and your mother. I missed going last night...working on rewrite's for my next and first romance novel
Fri 4:30pm PDT Thumper It is a nice, isn't it? And we keep growing every month, it seems like.
Fri 4:30pm PDT linn Are you located in Indy or traveling
Fri 4:31pm PDT Linn I hope to be on your site soon...that's apromise..ha hah
Fri 4:31pm PDT Thumper I'm in Indy. Right now I'm trying to chat and cook clam chowder at the same time. *big smile*
Fri 4:32pm PDT linn that sounds good right about now. I'm just chatting to regroup my thoughts on where the heck my nove's storyline is taking me.
Fri 4:33pm PDT Thumper OK. How long have you been working on your novella?
Fri 4:35pm PDT Linn All in all it has been good for me though...I'm on Timbooktu.com and storytale.com in the litline newsletter as the featured poet and next month I'll be the guest columnist for Litline
Fri 4:36pm PDT linn The whole process took me a few years. This second one is coming together a lot smoother and quicker.
Fri 4:37pm PDT Thumper So you're a poet? Is the novella your first stab at fiction?
Fri 4:38pm PDT linn I'm sure you know the craft of writing is tricky, but i plan to master it or bust
Fri 4:39pm PDT linn Yes..the novella is my first..hopefully not the last
Fri 4:39pm PDT Thumper *big smile* Yes, believe me I know. Where do you plan to publish your novella, or are you planning on publishing a short story collection?
Fri 4:39pm PDT linn How's the chowder coming?
Fri 4:41pm PDT Thumper I'm almost at the end. *smile* I just put the tomatoes in. And 5 minutes from now, I'll throw in the clams and let it set.
Fri 4:41pm PDT linn Actually I'm heading towards self-publishing the first. That way I can get my feet wet, use my contacts and sell 10,000 copies so some publisher will know I can carry my own. But I must say my poetry has been bringing some recognition and also going to the many conferences
Fri 4:43pm PDT Thumper That's good. It seems like so many of our new authors don't realize how valuable poetry is to fiction. I'm always excited when I read works by poets writing fiction.
Fri 4:44pm PDT Thumper With all of these AA imprints and all, the time seems fertile on getting the attention of major publishers.
Fri 4:45pm PDT linn Then it's a good thing? I also included a couple of poems in the novella
Fri 4:48pm PDT Thumper I don't see how it could hurt. I personally believe that it's a good thing. But, then I'm rather odd, in the notion that I'm not always a big fan of a u-go-girl book, know what I mean?
Fri 4:49pm PDT Thumper Poetry adds depth and dimension to a story or character if it's done by the right writer.
Fri 4:49pm PDT linn Do I ever..if I read one more I think I might be sick
Fri 4:50pm PDT Thumper Earlier this year I read a fascinating book titled Gabriel's Story that merge the two, poetry and fiction together perfectly.
Fri 4:50pm PDT linn I chose to write about being a very light individual in a very black and white world with a twist
Fri 4:52pm PDT Thumper Cool.
Fri 4:52pm PDT linn I have that on my shelve, but have not read it yet. Perhaps I should give it a look see
Fri 4:52pm PDT Thumper Isn't it strange that we, as people living in the 21st century, AA especially, are still color struck.
Fri 4:53pm PDT linn Earlier you sadi you have a chat on Weds. What time
Fri 4:53pm PDT Thumper What?? You haven't read Gabriel's Story yet? I loved that book!!
Fri 4:54pm PDT linn I find it very disturbing, yet I know it still exists and proably always will
Fri 4:54pm PDT Thumper This past Wednesday, I had a chat with Solomon Jones, the author of Pipe Dreams, another excellent book. I'm not here every Wednesday though, just one Wednesday out of the month. Every day I'm on the discussion board.
Fri 4:56pm PDT Thumper I'm here today, because I have a chat schedule with Christopher Chambers, the author of Sympathy For The Devil at 8 PMEST. I logged on early because I'm not sure what part ofthe country he's in.
Fri 4:56pm PDT linn I will start reading it tonight..now that you have peeked my curiousity. I must commend you though on Brian Eggleston's Whippin..etc..I felt exactly as you did...confused and let downt
Fri 4:58pm PDT linn let me know when I need to go back to work..that way you can enjoy your chat without interference
Fri 4:58pm PDT Thumper I hated giving Brian that kind of review though, but I had to be honest.
Fri 4:59pm PDT Thumper You can stick around. The Friday chats are like an open interview.
Fri 4:59pm PDT linn I'm glad you were honest..at least I know I can expect that from you. Perhaps I will let you do a sneak review so I can hide while there's time and save face..(smile)
Fri 5:01pm PDT Thumper Ah now, I'm sure that's not the case. *smile* As you can probably tell there's plenty of people that will disagree with me. I'm sure you won't have to run and hide anywhere.
Fri 5:02pm PDT linn Well, from what I've heard your word is pretty well received
Fri 5:03pm PDT linn Have you also written something yourself that i might read
Fri 5:04pm PDT Thumper Really? I hope so. I keep myself so isolated that I'm not always sure how I'm received. I know Rosalyn McMillan is still writing and making money despite my opinion. *big evil smile* I hope I do some folks some good. *smile*
Fri 5:05pm PDT linn I've heard so much about you from everyone, but they never mentioned your work to me
Fri 5:06pm PDT Thumper I don't have the discipline. My uncle wanted me to become his protege, but at that time I thought he was just being nice. Who knows, maybe one day.
Fri 5:07pm PDT linn Rosalyn McMillian is still going and as you said..some people will differ depending on their taste...I hope I can be so lucky
Fri 5:09pm PDT Thumper I'm keeping my fingers crossed. We need more authors that are willing to go beneath the surface and tell our story and yet possess a way with words to evoke the passion and emotions of the characters and their stories.
Fri 5:09pm PDT linn Well, at any rate..you could proably write something great with all the insight you have through reading
Fri 5:10pm PDT linn I wish my modem could keep up..for it to be new and supposedly fast..it's giving me the blues..I feel as if I'm answering you ten minutes later...smile
Fri 5:11pm PDT linn My biggest concern is did I dig deep enough
Fri 5:11pm PDT Thumper I'm afraid that I would be another Ralph Ellison working on a book for over 20 years without finishing it. with my luck I won't have a Invisible Man under my belt.
Fri 5:13pm PDT linn I would have you look at my sight but my address is so long from aol that it's easier for me to email you with a hyperlink. What's your email address
Fri 5:13pm PDT Thumper My email address is thumper@aalbc.com.
Fri 5:14pm PDT linn I'm sure there's a novel under your belt that needs to be told
Fri 5:15pm PDT Thumper Oh there is. I just have to figure out a way that I won't get sued for slander. *smile*
Fri 5:16pm PDT linn Hope you enjoy my site. I think I did pretty good for a beginner...wish I knew how to make it better, but who has the time...smile
Fri 5:16pm PDT Thumper It would be my luck that although the people that I would base my characters on don't necessarily read books, they would read mine and see themselves. *smile*
Fri 5:17pm PDT linn That must be some storyline you're holding up
Fri 5:17pm PDT ChrisC Chris Chambers is on--sick as a dawg but on
Fri 5:17pm PDT Thumper I know that's right. Everybody should have a Troy Johnson, the site webmaster and founder. he definitely makes my life easier.
Fri 5:18pm PDT linn Hard to disguise interesting characters
Fri 5:18pm PDT ChrisC Thumper help me out here
Fri 5:18pm PDT linn Hi Chris
Fri 5:18pm PDT Thumper Hello Chris, sick as a dog. *LOL* I promise I won't keep you long. I'm fighting a cold myself.
Fri 5:19pm PDT ChrisC Will this work? I don't think I signed on properly.
Fri 5:19pm PDT Thumper Chris, you have to refresh to see the new messages on the screen.
Fri 5:22pm PDT linn Chris..are you there
Fri 5:23pm PDT Thumper I don't think that he's gotten the hang of the Refresh yet. He has the flu, so he's not feeling well.
Fri 5:23pm PDT linn Thumper
Fri 5:23pm PDT Thumper Hello Linn, I'm here.
Fri 5:24pm PDT Linn Sorry to hear you're not feeling well Chris
Fri 5:24pm PDT ChrisChambers Okay I'm here.
Fri 5:24pm PDT Thumper Chris, are you sure? We can postpone this. I'm cool with it.
Fri 5:25pm PDT ChrisChambers No, I'm cool. Typing on a laptop as I sip Theraflu. What's this about the refresh button?
Fri 5:26pm PDT linn Be right back
Fri 5:27pm PDT Thumper The software has a bug, where if your modem and internet connection is slow, it doesn't automatically refresh. So we have to refresh manually by clicking the right mouse button and selecting the refresh option. But you have to do it all of the time.
Fri 5:28pm PDT ChrisChambers I see. Well so far I see the new messages without having to do that.
Fri 5:28pm PDT Thumper So, Chris, besides the flu, how's the book tour and all that other good stuff going? Is Sympathy For The Devil getting good reviews?
Fri 5:29pm PDT Thumper I'm glad yousee the new messages. I'm also jealous. 8big smile*
Fri 5:29pm PDT ChrisChambers Very good. Black Issues Book Review did a great one last month; I have ones coming up in the Washing ton Post and USA Today.
Fri 5:30pm PDT Thumper How did you come to write Sympathy For The Devil? how did Angela Bivens come into your life?
Fri 5:30pm PDT ChrisChambers Touring is up and down. Since 9/11 sales of everything have suffered. But I try to make my dates. I also try to make my readings pertinent.
Fri 5:31pm PDT ChrisChambers I'll answer the next question when everything catches up...
Fri 5:32pm PDT Thumper It's up. It's me that has to slow down. I wasn't typing this fast when i was in college.
Fri 5:32pm PDT ChrisChambers I have been writing adventure, detective, gothic and more literary short stories since I was kid. I've always liked the thriller genre because you can pour so much into it. I wanted to blaze a trail for African American writers as well...
Fri 5:33pm PDT ChrisChambers ...we've always very good mystery and detective writers, pre-Mosely (who owes his success to Bill Clinton, period).
Fri 5:34pm PDT ChrisChambers ...but in thrillers, not a one, as you compare with Patterson, Grisham, Crais, Sullivan, Deaver, Tom Harris, Cornwell, et al.
Fri 5:36pm PDT Thumper Well, there's a couple, but you're right none that are as popular. But why Angela bivens and not a male character.
Fri 5:37pm PDT ChrisChambers Because women make better dramatic characters. More complex. Conflict tugs and pulls...
Fri 5:38pm PDT ChrisChambers ...whereas to make a male character more interesting, you pretty much have to weight him with all kinds of quirks and inner demons.
Fri 5:40pm PDT ChrisChambers And as for your last query about there being other thriller writers, yes there's Eric Fullilove, Chris Benson, etc. But mostly we are talking abou the weight of writers being more mystery, and mystery-gothic, a la Grace Edwards.
Fri 5:40pm PDT Thumper Lucas Beauchamp! How did you come to use Lucas Beauchamp? You know I had to go and read Go Down Moses. I take it that your a fan of Faulkner?
Fri 5:40pm PDT linn Chris..are you saying women are complex in thrilling situations or over all in writing
Fri 5:41pm PDT ChrisChambers Women are complex period. And that's a good thing. Many facets. Many competing priorities. As for Faulkner, no. I hate Faulkner. But I wanted to expose a lot of literary sources in my work. Show another dimension to black folks, black writers, black characters...
Fri 5:42pm PDT ChrisChambers ...very little reference to lit. in anything E. Lynn or Omar or Eric Dickey or any of the other "relationship" or neo-soap opera novels.
Fri 5:44pm PDT Thumper But how is showing another dimension of black folks, black writers, black characters using Faulkner who's straight up white and have been criticized for being the typical white liberal "we appreciate the effort but you're still missing the boat" type of liberal?.
Fri 5:46pm PDT ChrisChambers That a character in a novel would use him, quote him, understand him. You really don;t see that a lot, especially in thrillers. Like the Mayan myths, etc. You have to think out of the box to set yourself apart.
Fri 5:46pm PDT ChrisChambers Are we the only three in the chat room? LOL
Fri 5:47pm PDT linn When I can stay in..I'm here
Fri 5:48pm PDT Thumper This is true if you're shooting for an audience that it is being assumed would know Lucas Beauchamp or would have read Go Down Moses or Intruder of the Dust. What about the folks that haven't read or even heard of Beauchamp, would they have missed the point that you're trying to make?
Fri 5:48pm PDT Thumper Chris, I can't tell.
Fri 5:49pm PDT linn So Chris..you find it relevant and stimulating to the writing to include more lit references or quotes
Fri 5:50pm PDT linn What Thumper relays is very true with the average reader..is this advisable for mainstream
Fri 5:50pm PDT ChrisChambers No. I provide enough context and pertinence. It's analogous to the way i've tried to make Washington DC a character in the novel. I don;t name drop or use it as a mere backdrop. You weave it into the story. Create a mood. Same thing with the Mayan imagery, with the literary references. It's a part of a character or characters. that way, even people who've never heard of Faulkner, for example, or never been to DC can get the flavor.
Fri 5:51pm PDT ChrisChambers I meant "Yes" in the first word, but jumped the gun on the question. The average reader will "get" the references. Plus I don't really overuse literary stuff. LOL
Fri 5:51pm PDT linn point well taken
Fri 5:51pm PDT Thumper Chris, do you plan to expose more of Angela's relationship with her mother? Are you planning on making Angela into a series or is this the first and last outing for Angela?
Fri 5:52pm PDT ChrisChambers Well, like anything in entertainment, if something's successful, they will demand more. I have a two book deal, so there'll be a sequel...
Fri 5:53pm PDT ChrisChambers ...as for her parents, that's tough to say. They re-appear in the sequel, but not as characters about whom you see why she is the way she is. I think the reader will see that in the first novel.
Fri 5:54pm PDT ChrisChambers Plus, that relationship isn't central to the story(ies).
Fri 5:55pm PDT Thumper I'll be surprised if her parents are still speaking to her because of how Sympathy For The Devil concluded. Do you plan on Angela finding the love of her life or do you like it better if her life remains a mess?
Fri 5:56pm PDT ChrisChambers Well, without giving too much away, I'd ay she needs to recover from post traumatic shock and resolve her "problem". LOL
Fri 5:57pm PDT ChrisChambers Though she does find herself "with" Prof. Markham. But he's just a band-aid. She's using him. You don;t get over Trey and Pluto that easily
Fri 5:58pm PDT ChrisChambers LOL
Fri 5:58pm PDT Thumper Since you don't like Faulkner, yet Lucas Beauchamp was used. Is it safe to assume that I won't see you at the next Rolling Stones concert? *smile*
Fri 5:59pm PDT ChrisChambers No, I do like the Stones. Not their current dirty ol' grandfather form. Their songs, especially Sympathy, were very good allegories.
Fri 6:01pm PDT Thumper Hold up. You mean to tell me, you like the Stones, but you dog my guy Faulkner?? I don't believe this. *LOL*
Fri 6:03pm PDT ChrisChambers LOL. He was ok. A little long-winded. A Classic as Trey would say. I'll give him much props. But I just don't like him. I like his contemporaies, Zora and F. Scott and Ernie H. But hey, this chat's about me, not them! LOL
Fri 6:04pm PDT ChrisChambers Actually, my medicine's starting to weight my eyelids. We can continue in future? Doesn't look like there are many folks online now.
Fri 6:05pm PDT Thumper *LOL* Look, you have a chat because a Faulkner devotee ALLOWED you to have one. Let's get it straight. *LOL* *LOL*How much research went into the Mayan aspect of your novel? I found it fascinating.
Fri 6:06pm PDT Thumper Yes, we can continue. You get your rest. It was good of you to stop by anyway. *big smile*
Fri 6:06pm PDT ChrisChambers A lot. But much is made-up/embellished. You take the basic myths and bend the stuff to your story. Done all the time. Even in the Bible. It's said the Old testment ripped off Noah's Flood from the Assyrians, Gilgamesh.
Fri 6:07pm PDT ChrisChambers And with that controversial statement, I'l say good night all. Hope you'll urge folks to buy the novel in your area.
Fri 6:08pm PDT Thumper *big smile* Good night, Chris.
Fri 6:08pm PDT ChrisChambers Later!
Fri 6:08pm PDT ChrisChambers [has very little to add...]
[has logged off the chat room]
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